Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV ringbuffer possibly causes missed 13 minutes of West Wing?

2005-03-10 Thread Julian Edwards
Jules Gosnell wrote:
that's what i thought - but the losses are so regular - 40-50 seconds 
into a recording, and usually the same amount lost, that I am moving 
away from that theory.

I guess I will just have to miss 15 mins a show until i see some sort 
of regular pattern - I will probably fiddle with setup options and see 
if they have any effect on these periods...
Do you have any signal issues in the backend log for any part of the 
recording?  It might be worth correlating with the segments that you're 
losing just to see if there's a link.

Next time I lose part of a recording I'll do the same check, although 
since I upgraded to FC2 from FC1 it's not happened.  Maybe it's 
something to do with the DVB drivers?

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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV ringbuffer possibly causes missed 13 minutes of West Wing?

2005-03-10 Thread Steve Malenfant
Got the same issue with pcHDTV using driver 1.6 and mythtv 0.17.

I recorded a long show (3 hours) and the last few minutes were missing.

Steve

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 09:57:24 +, Jules Gosnell
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> OK, I'll take a look - thanks for the advice, Doug.
> 
> Jules
> 
> 
> Doug Larrick wrote:
> 
> > Jules Gosnell wrote:
> >
> >> I guess I will just have to miss 15 mins a show until i see some sort of
> >> regular pattern - I will probably fiddle with setup options and see if
> >> they have any effect on these periods...
> >
> >
> > Check for database error messages in your system logs, too... if the db
> > is taking extra-long to write keyframes into recordedmarkup you'll see
> > pauses in your recording.
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> > -Doug
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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV ringbuffer possibly causes missed 13 minutes of West Wing?

2005-03-10 Thread Jules Gosnell
OK, I'll take a look - thanks for the advice, Doug.
Jules
Doug Larrick wrote:
Jules Gosnell wrote:
I guess I will just have to miss 15 mins a show until i see some sort of
regular pattern - I will probably fiddle with setup options and see if
they have any effect on these periods...

Check for database error messages in your system logs, too... if the db
is taking extra-long to write keyframes into recordedmarkup you'll see
pauses in your recording.
-Doug

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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV ringbuffer possibly causes missed 13 minutes of West Wing?

2005-03-09 Thread Doug Larrick
Jules Gosnell wrote:
I guess I will just have to miss 15 mins a show until i see some sort of
regular pattern - I will probably fiddle with setup options and see if
they have any effect on these periods...
Check for database error messages in your system logs, too... if the db
is taking extra-long to write keyframes into recordedmarkup you'll see
pauses in your recording.
-Doug


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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV ringbuffer possibly causes missed 13 minutes of West Wing?

2005-03-09 Thread Jules Gosnell
Julian Edwards wrote:
Jules Gosnell wrote:
I'm suffering from a similar symptom and am stumped...
I guess that the problem must have arisen since I moved up to 0.17.
I started noticing that after between 40-50 seconds into the 
beginning of a recording it jumped forward - i.e. a piece was missing.

Initially it didn't worry me, i just thought my DVB signal was a bit 
flaky.

Then I recorded a couple of 10 minute shows for my son, and found 
that the recordings only lasted 2-3 mins !

I went back and looked at my other recordings. Many of them are 
scheduled for an hour, but the actual recording is only about 45 mins 
long - this means that the jump at the beginning isn't a few seconds 
as i had though, but 15 mins !!!

I'm not using HDTV - but UK PAL DVB.
Unfortunately I restarted the server this afternoon and my log is 
truncated, but the same thing happened this evening and there doesn't 
appear to be anything in the log at the time it happened...

can I turn up the log level somehow ?
Am I alone with this one ?
Anyone any ideas - I have Myth setup and working, but no idea what is 
going on under the covers...

You're not the only one!
It was happening to me a lot but not recently.  The backend log file 
didn't show any errors either, other than some DVB signal issues, 
which leads me to believe it's something to do with gaps in received 
DVB data causing a knock-on effect somewhere.

that's what i thought - but the losses are so regular - 40-50 seconds 
into a recording, and usually the same amount lost, that I am moving 
away from that theory.

I guess I will just have to miss 15 mins a show until i see some sort of 
regular pattern - I will probably fiddle with setup options and see if 
they have any effect on these periods...

Jules
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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV ringbuffer possibly causes missed 13 minutes of West Wing?

2005-03-09 Thread Julian Edwards
Jules Gosnell wrote:
I'm suffering from a similar symptom and am stumped...
I guess that the problem must have arisen since I moved up to 0.17.
I started noticing that after between 40-50 seconds into the beginning 
of a recording it jumped forward - i.e. a piece was missing.

Initially it didn't worry me, i just thought my DVB signal was a bit 
flaky.

Then I recorded a couple of 10 minute shows for my son, and found that 
the recordings only lasted 2-3 mins !

I went back and looked at my other recordings. Many of them are 
scheduled for an hour, but the actual recording is only about 45 mins 
long - this means that the jump at the beginning isn't a few seconds 
as i had though, but 15 mins !!!

I'm not using HDTV - but UK PAL DVB.
Unfortunately I restarted the server this afternoon and my log is 
truncated, but the same thing happened this evening and there doesn't 
appear to be anything in the log at the time it happened...

can I turn up the log level somehow ?
Am I alone with this one ?
Anyone any ideas - I have Myth setup and working, but no idea what is 
going on under the covers...
You're not the only one!
It was happening to me a lot but not recently.  The backend log file 
didn't show any errors either, other than some DVB signal issues, which 
leads me to believe it's something to do with gaps in received DVB data 
causing a knock-on effect somewhere.

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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV ringbuffer possibly causes missed 13 minutes of West Wing?

2005-03-09 Thread Jules Gosnell
I'm suffering from a similar symptom and am stumped...
I guess that the problem must have arisen since I moved up to 0.17.
I started noticing that after between 40-50 seconds into the beginning 
of a recording it jumped forward - i.e. a piece was missing.

Initially it didn't worry me, i just thought my DVB signal was a bit flaky.
Then I recorded a couple of 10 minute shows for my son, and found that 
the recordings only lasted 2-3 mins !

I went back and looked at my other recordings. Many of them are 
scheduled for an hour, but the actual recording is only about 45 mins 
long - this means that the jump at the beginning isn't a few seconds as 
i had though, but 15 mins !!!

I'm not using HDTV - but UK PAL DVB.
Unfortunately I restarted the server this afternoon and my log is 
truncated, but the same thing happened this evening and there doesn't 
appear to be anything in the log at the time it happened...

can I turn up the log level somehow ?
Am I alone with this one ?
Anyone any ideas - I have Myth setup and working, but no idea what is 
going on under the covers...

Thanks for your time,
Jules

Brad Templeton wrote:
Recording tonight's west wing, 2 stange things.
1)  The recording was only 47 minutes long, and the first 13 minutes
of the program is not there.  (File is smaller than normal.)  Logs
show full hour recorded, the only odd thing are some ringbuffer
diagnostics from the new ringbuffer, included below.
2) Almost surely unrelated, the program appeared as an SDTV letterboxed
program inside a pillarbox on the nbc-hd channel.   Seems somebody
at the network encoded it wrong or threw the wrong switch?  Anybody
else record the west wing?  Anybody else record it from San-Jose KNTV?
Note the other backend was recording a cable show SDTV.
Signal strength seems fine right now, weather is clear.
2005-02-23 20:59:31.943 Started recording "The West Wing" on channel: 2014 on 
cardid: 2, sourceid 2
2005-02-23 20:59:32.019 Channel(/dev/video32)::SwitchToInput(in 0): Error -1 while 
setting video mode (v2), "Invalid argument", trying v4l v1
2005-02-23 20:59:32.022 Channel(/dev/video32)::SwitchToInput(in 0): Setting 
video mode with v4l version 1 worked
2005-02-23 20:59:32.064 Started recording "MythBusters" on channel: 4029 on 
cardid: 1, sourceid 4
2005-02-23 20:59:32.690 Changing from None to RecordingOnly
2005-02-23 21:02:26.845 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.549857% max 1.5% samples 
46742
2005-02-23 21:05:25.053 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.547945% max 1.40625% samples 
47887
2005-02-23 21:08:23.485 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.548091% max 1.40625% samples 
47946
2005-02-23 21:09:31.295 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-02-23 21:09:31.296 adding: myth as a client (events: 0)
2005-02-23 21:09:31.353 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback
2005-02-23 21:09:31.354 adding: myth as a client (events: 1)
2005-02-23 21:11:21.897 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.548018% max 1.40625% samples 
47941
   ... this is about the place the resulting recording ends up starting.
2005-02-23 21:14:20.327 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.550106% max 2.75% 
samples 47946
2005-02-23 21:17:18.801 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.549129% max 2.5625% samples 
47957
2005-02-23 21:20:17.434 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.548652% max 2.3125% samples 
48001
2005-02-23 21:23:15.904 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.549285% max 2.1875% samples 
47957
2005-02-23 21:26:14.263 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.548361% max 2% samples 47927
2005-02-23 21:29:12.713 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.549098% max 3.8125% samples 
47951
2005-02-23 21:32:11.115 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.550459% max 4.375% samples 
47939
2005-02-23 21:35:09.456 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.548849% max 2% samples 47923
2005-02-23 21:38:07.940 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.549742% max 3.25% samples 
47960
2005-02-23 21:41:06.464 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.54834% max 2.03125% samples 
47971
2005-02-23 21:41:56.130 Reschedule requested for id 0.
2005-02-23 21:41:57.133 Scheduled 148 items in 1.0 = 0.20 match + 0.80 place
2005-02-23 21:44:04.795 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.548766% max 2% samples 47919
2005-02-23 21:47:03.232 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.548111% max 2.375% samples 
47949
2005-02-23 21:50:01.628 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.548558% max 1.9375% samples 
47937
2005-02-23 21:53:00.000 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.548475% max 1.75% samples 
47931
2005-02-23 21:55:58.425 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.548922% max 1.75% samples 
47945
2005-02-23 21:58:57.035 /dev/video32 ringbuf avg 0.548818% max 1.8125% samples 
47994
2005-02-23 22:01:00.003 Finished recording The West Wing on channel: 2014
2005-02-23 22:01:00.063 Changing from RecordingOnly to None

 


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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV ringbuffer possibly causes missed 13 minutes of West Wing?

2005-02-24 Thread Brad Templeton
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 08:00:23AM -0800, Joe Barnhart wrote:
> Well, neighbor, I have been unable to record KNTV
> since updating to 0.17 a few days ago.  The recorting
> always abourts with no signal, but only on channel
> 11.1 -- my other channels still record fine.  Runing
> dtvsignal shows the signal is present and had fine
> strength.  I have been operating under the assumption
> that I have something wrong in my mythconverg
> database, but the entries all look fine.  Perhaps 0.17
> is not waiting as long for my HD-2000 card to
> establish the signal.

As far as I know the backend puts entries in the log when it can't
tune a channel, and aborts the recording to boot.  Unless it has
stopped this diagnostic, this is not the problem here.  There's nothing
logged at all for the missing section, by and large.
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Re: [mythtv-users] HDTV ringbuffer possibly causes missed 13 minutes of West Wing?

2005-02-24 Thread Joe Barnhart

--- Brad Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Recording tonight's west wing, 2 stange things.
> 
> 1)  The recording was only 47 minutes long, and the
> first 13 minutes
> of the program is not there.
> 
> 2) Almost surely unrelated, the program appeared as
> an SDTV letterboxed
> program inside a pillarbox on the nbc-hd channel.  
> Seems somebody
> at the network encoded it wrong or threw the wrong
> switch?  Anybody
> else record the west wing?  Anybody else record it
> from San-Jose KNTV?

Well, neighbor, I have been unable to record KNTV
since updating to 0.17 a few days ago.  The recorting
always abourts with no signal, but only on channel
11.1 -- my other channels still record fine.  Runing
dtvsignal shows the signal is present and had fine
strength.  I have been operating under the assumption
that I have something wrong in my mythconverg
database, but the entries all look fine.  Perhaps 0.17
is not waiting as long for my HD-2000 card to
establish the signal.



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