Re: [mythtv-users] Miserable time installing Mythtv

2006-01-23 Thread Maverick
 Won't work, since you've got the 32-bit versions. You'll have to rpm -e all 
 the 32-bit pieces
 first, then a yum install mythtv-suite will work fine.

OK.. I'll give it a try if I get brave enough and find some time in my
recording schedule. ;)

 Only one hard drive?!? :p

 (Check out some of JPP's posts about Project Grayhem, where you can see 
 evidence of
 his ~3TB of storage in the screenshots... :)

Just one 160gb super quiet samsung spinpoint. I did setup LVM on the
video partition as you suggested, so adding another drive shouldn't be
a problem.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Miserable time installing Mythtv

2006-01-21 Thread H P Ladds
.So far as I know, this should cover it:
# yum install ivtv-kmdl-$kver ivtv ivtv-firmware ivtv-firmware-audio
Just use the ATrpms stable repo though, not the testing one.
Not pleased with the result here... the card has
disappeared from the system. Did this update the firmware? Anyway
to get the old firmware back onto the card? 
On 1/18/06, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 18:38, H P Ladds wrote: Hey Mythtv-users, I have been trying to follow Jarod's HOWTO to install Mythtv for about a 2 weeks+ now. No luck! Argh!Jarod's doc is in need of some love. I know that at least some parts (esp.
ivtv) are sorely outdated now... First I started with Fedora Core 3, Asus AV8 w/AMD64 3500+, Bt878 based card. Couldn't get Mythtv to tune in stations, but everthing else seemed to work great. Even TVtime worked great.
 Now I'm working with Fedora Core 4, Asus P2B-D w/two Pentium III 600s, and a Hauppauge 150 -- absolutely no luck this time; my machine doesn't seem to recognize the WinTV -150. I switched to the Hauppauge WinTV 150 because the
 Hauppauges seem to be popular with the posters here, but Fedora Core 4 is not recognizing the WinTV 150 card. Using rpm to install the WinTV 150 drivers leaves me searching the net for
 dependencies. Any suggestions on how to install the drivers using yum?So far as I know, this should cover it:# yum install ivtv-kmdl-$kver ivtv ivtv-firmware ivtv-firmware-audioJust use the ATrpms stable repo though, not the testing one.
 I believe most of my difficulties center around using yum and apt-get. I'm just understanding how to use them, but it seems as though the two are related. Do they both use the same repos? Do I need to run apt-get update
  apt-get dist-upgrade to proper run yum?apt and yum are two very similar dependency resolver/package installer tools(as is smart). They can use many of the same repositories, if both apt and
yum metadata are provided (and smart can use both apt and yum metadata, amongothers). Just pick one or the other and stick with it. Once you have theright repositories configured, just yum|apt-get|smart install package and
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Re: [mythtv-users] Miserable time installing Mythtv

2006-01-20 Thread Maverick
  $ rpm -q --qf='%{name}.%{arch}\n' \*myth\*
  package *myth* is not installed

 Aw, crap, missed an option there. Should have been:

 rpm -qa --qf='%{name}.%{arch}\n' \*myth\*

That worked a little better,

# rpm -qa --qf='%{name}.%{arch}\n' \*myth\*
libmyth.i386
mythtv-theme-MediaCenter.noarch
mythnews.i386
mythtv-backend.i386
mythweb.noarch
mythtv.i386
mythtv-theme-MediaCenterOSD.noarch
mythweather.i386
mythtv-themes.i386
mythtv-setup.i386
mythphone.i386
mythtv-frontend.i386

So, I gather I just installed i386 stuff...

  so, uh, I think I installed i686 versions. I was just hoping yum
  install myth-suite would just pull in everything to get a 'complete'
  mythtv package... Oh well. It'll probably stay just the way it is for
  the rest of eternity, or until there's a compelling new version of
  MythTV.

 You *might* be okay with just a yum install mythtv-suite...

I might try it this weekend... if nothing important is scheduled to record. :)

  Even though I consider myself a competent user, been using SCO
  (*work related, snicker-boo-hiss if you will*) for years

 I've had the displeasure of dealing with OSR5 for work-related
 reasons too. :)

My sympathy. The good news is SCO is on the fast track to death.

  and Linux
  for years longer. The fact is, if I blow up our now working mythbox,
  in any way shape or form, my girlfriend will have my head.

 Heh.

Really, I think it's just all the reruns of Sex in the City, Dawsons
Creek, X-Files, etc. that if she missed a single one... well... you
know the rest. =) When I finally took the time to get my mythbox
working again, she was so excited you would have thought I brought a
cute puppy home. It's only been about a month, and the hard drive is
full. DOH.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Miserable time installing Mythtv

2006-01-20 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 02:30:01PM -0500, Maverick wrote:
   $ rpm -q --qf='%{name}.%{arch}\n' \*myth\*
   package *myth* is not installed
 
  Aw, crap, missed an option there. Should have been:
 
  rpm -qa --qf='%{name}.%{arch}\n' \*myth\*
 
 That worked a little better,
 
 # rpm -qa --qf='%{name}.%{arch}\n' \*myth\*
 libmyth.i386
 mythtv-theme-MediaCenter.noarch
 mythnews.i386
 mythtv-backend.i386
 mythweb.noarch
 mythtv.i386
 mythtv-theme-MediaCenterOSD.noarch
 mythweather.i386
 mythtv-themes.i386
 mythtv-setup.i386
 mythphone.i386
 mythtv-frontend.i386
 
 So, I gather I just installed i386 stuff...

Yup.

   so, uh, I think I installed i686 versions. I was just hoping yum
   install myth-suite would just pull in everything to get a 'complete'
   mythtv package... Oh well. It'll probably stay just the way it is for
   the rest of eternity, or until there's a compelling new version of
   MythTV.
 
  You *might* be okay with just a yum install mythtv-suite...
 
 I might try it this weekend... if nothing important is scheduled to record. :)

Won't work, since you've got the 32-bit versions. You'll have to rpm -e all the 
32-bit pieces first, then a yum install mythtv-suite will work fine.

   Even though I consider myself a competent user, been using SCO
   (*work related, snicker-boo-hiss if you will*) for years
 
  I've had the displeasure of dealing with OSR5 for work-related
  reasons too. :)
 
 My sympathy. The good news is SCO is on the fast track to death.

Yeah, I hope to never touch it ever again. Felt very dirty while working on it, 
both because of SCO and because of the sheer craptitude (though it was a lot 
better adding a good  number of skunkware packages).

   and Linux
   for years longer. The fact is, if I blow up our now working mythbox,
   in any way shape or form, my girlfriend will have my head.
 
  Heh.
 
 Really, I think it's just all the reruns of Sex in the City, Dawsons
 Creek, X-Files, etc. that if she missed a single one... well... you
 know the rest. =) When I finally took the time to get my mythbox
 working again, she was so excited you would have thought I brought a
 cute puppy home. It's only been about a month, and the hard drive is
 full. DOH.

Only one hard drive?!? :p

(Check out some of JPP's posts about Project Grayhem, where you can see 
evidence of his ~3TB of storage in the screenshots... :)

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Re: [mythtv-users] Miserable time installing Mythtv

2006-01-18 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 18:38, H P Ladds wrote:
 Hey Mythtv-users,

 I have been trying to follow Jarod's HOWTO to install Mythtv for about a 2
 weeks+ now. No luck! Argh!

Jarod's doc is in need of some love. I know that at least some parts (esp. 
ivtv) are sorely outdated now...

 First I started with Fedora Core 3, Asus AV8 w/AMD64 3500+, Bt878 based
 card. Couldn't get Mythtv to tune in stations, but everthing else seemed to
 work great. Even TVtime worked great.

 Now I'm working with Fedora Core 4, Asus P2B-D w/two Pentium III 600s, and
 a Hauppauge 150 -- absolutely no luck this time; my machine doesn't seem to
 recognize the WinTV -150. I switched to the Hauppauge WinTV 150 because the
 Hauppauges seem to be popular with the posters here, but Fedora Core 4 is
 not recognizing the WinTV 150 card.

 Using rpm to install the WinTV 150 drivers leaves me searching the net for
 dependencies. Any suggestions on how to install the drivers using yum?

So far as I know, this should cover it:

# yum install ivtv-kmdl-$kver ivtv ivtv-firmware ivtv-firmware-audio

Just use the ATrpms stable repo though, not the testing one.

 I believe most of my difficulties center around using yum and apt-get. I'm
 just understanding how to use them, but it seems as though the two are
 related. Do they both use the same repos? Do I need to run apt-get update
  apt-get dist-upgrade to proper run yum?

apt and yum are two very similar dependency resolver/package installer tools 
(as is smart). They can use many of the same repositories, if both apt and 
yum metadata are provided (and smart can use both apt and yum metadata, among 
others). Just pick one or the other and stick with it. Once you have the 
right repositories configured, just yum|apt-get|smart install package and 
package (or packages) should get installed with all their dependencies.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Miserable time installing Mythtv

2006-01-18 Thread Maverick
 Jarod's doc is in need of some love. I know that at least some parts (esp.
 ivtv) are sorely outdated now...

Funny that you're talking about yourself 3rd person.. heh.

But, first wanted to thank you for your doc, used it a month ago with
reasonable success. I had problems with the current kernel used in
Knoppmyth over the past year...

Second, wanted to point out 'yum install myth-suite' doesn't work on
AMD64, or didn't a couple weeks ago. Something to do with AMD64
support of one of the mythtv modules, Axel claiming a problem with the
mythtv code for that module. Hopefully something that will be resolved
in 0.19!!

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Re: [mythtv-users] Miserable time installing Mythtv

2006-01-18 Thread H P Ladds
Thanks for all you work!

Thanks for clearing up the apt | yum question, and pointing me in the right direction.

Thanks Again,

PrestonOn 1/18/06, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 18:38, H P Ladds wrote: Hey Mythtv-users, I have been trying to follow Jarod's HOWTO to install Mythtv for about a 2 weeks+ now. No luck! Argh!Jarod's doc is in need of some love. I know that at least some parts (esp.
ivtv) are sorely outdated now... First I started with Fedora Core 3, Asus AV8 w/AMD64 3500+, Bt878 based card. Couldn't get Mythtv to tune in stations, but everthing else seemed to work great. Even TVtime worked great.
 Now I'm working with Fedora Core 4, Asus P2B-D w/two Pentium III 600s, and a Hauppauge 150 -- absolutely no luck this time; my machine doesn't seem to recognize the WinTV -150. I switched to the Hauppauge WinTV 150 because the
 Hauppauges seem to be popular with the posters here, but Fedora Core 4 is not recognizing the WinTV 150 card. Using rpm to install the WinTV 150 drivers leaves me searching the net for
 dependencies. Any suggestions on how to install the drivers using yum?So far as I know, this should cover it:# yum install ivtv-kmdl-$kver ivtv ivtv-firmware ivtv-firmware-audioJust use the ATrpms stable repo though, not the testing one.
 I believe most of my difficulties center around using yum and apt-get. I'm just understanding how to use them, but it seems as though the two are related. Do they both use the same repos? Do I need to run apt-get update
  apt-get dist-upgrade to proper run yum?apt and yum are two very similar dependency resolver/package installer tools(as is smart). They can use many of the same repositories, if both apt and
yum metadata are provided (and smart can use both apt and yum metadata, amongothers). Just pick one or the other and stick with it. Once you have theright repositories configured, just yum|apt-get|smart install package and
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Re: [mythtv-users] Miserable time installing Mythtv

2006-01-18 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 19:23, Maverick wrote:
  Jarod's doc is in need of some love. I know that at least some parts
  (esp. ivtv) are sorely outdated now...

 Funny that you're talking about yourself 3rd person.. heh.

:)

 But, first wanted to thank you for your doc, used it a month ago with
 reasonable success. I had problems with the current kernel used in
 Knoppmyth over the past year...

 Second, wanted to point out 'yum install myth-suite' doesn't work on
 AMD64, or didn't a couple weeks ago. Something to do with AMD64
 support of one of the mythtv modules, Axel claiming a problem with the
 mythtv code for that module. Hopefully something that will be resolved
 in 0.19!!

64-bit should be fine again, there were a number of patches I back-ported to 
the 0.18 tree, from which Axel rolled new packages which seem to be fine for 
all AMD64 users that have tried them thus far.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Miserable time installing Mythtv

2006-01-18 Thread Maverick
 64-bit should be fine again, there were a number of patches I back-ported to
 the 0.18 tree, from which Axel rolled new packages which seem to be fine for
 all AMD64 users that have tried them thus far.

Awesome! Does that mean, since I installed individually, I'm screewed
now or can I just install myth-suite and it'll make everything happy?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Miserable time installing Mythtv

2006-01-18 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 20:02, Maverick wrote:
  64-bit should be fine again, there were a number of patches I back-ported
  to the 0.18 tree, from which Axel rolled new packages which seem to be
  fine for all AMD64 users that have tried them thus far.

 Awesome! Does that mean, since I installed individually, I'm screewed
 now

What do you mean by installed individually?

 or can I just install myth-suite and it'll make everything happy? 

Installing mythtv-suite won't work, since it doesn't explicitly require all 
the latest components, meaning having any 0.18.x version installed satisfies 
its deps. Probably best to specifically request each package to make sure you 
get the latest. If you happen to have i386 packages installed on x86_64 (rpm 
-q --qf='%{name}.%{arch}\n' \*myth\*), you may have to remove them first. 
Keep in mind that all your settings are in your db, so entirely removing 
everything and then reinstalling won't cost you anything (and you can install 
mythtv-suite, in that case).

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Re: [mythtv-users] Miserable time installing Mythtv

2006-01-18 Thread Maverick
 What do you mean by installed individually?

I installed myth packages from Alex's repo individually, leaving out a
bunch of the plugins... So I pretty much only have MythTV and the
Weather plugin. A far cry from what I had using Knoppmyth...

  or can I just install myth-suite and it'll make everything happy?

 Installing mythtv-suite won't work, since it doesn't explicitly require all
 the latest components, meaning having any 0.18.x version installed satisfies
 its deps. Probably best to specifically request each package to make sure you
 get the latest. If you happen to have i386 packages installed on x86_64 (rpm
 -q --qf='%{name}.%{arch}\n' \*myth\*), you may have to remove them first.
 Keep in mind that all your settings are in your db, so entirely removing
 everything and then reinstalling won't cost you anything (and you can install
 mythtv-suite, in that case).

$ rpm -q --qf='%{name}.%{arch}\n' \*myth\*
package *myth* is not installed

so, uh, I think I installed i686 versions. I was just hoping yum
install myth-suite would just pull in everything to get a 'complete'
mythtv package... Oh well. It'll probably stay just the way it is for
the rest of eternity, or until there's a compelling new version of
MythTV. Even though I consider myself a competent user, been using SCO
(*work related, snicker-boo-hiss if you will*) for years, and Linux
for years longer. The fact is, if I blow up our now working mythbox,
in any way shape or form, my girlfriend will have my head.

-Kenneth
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Re: [mythtv-users] Miserable time installing Mythtv

2006-01-18 Thread Jarod Wilson

On Jan 18, 2006, at 20:32, Maverick wrote:


What do you mean by installed individually?


I installed myth packages from Alex's repo individually, leaving out a
bunch of the plugins... So I pretty much only have MythTV and the
Weather plugin. A far cry from what I had using Knoppmyth...


You may actually be all x86_64 then...


or can I just install myth-suite and it'll make everything happy?


Installing mythtv-suite won't work, since it doesn't explicitly  
require all
the latest components, meaning having any 0.18.x version installed  
satisfies
its deps. Probably best to specifically request each package to  
make sure you
get the latest. If you happen to have i386 packages installed on  
x86_64 (rpm
-q --qf='%{name}.%{arch}\n' \*myth\*), you may have to remove them  
first.
Keep in mind that all your settings are in your db, so entirely  
removing
everything and then reinstalling won't cost you anything (and you  
can install

mythtv-suite, in that case).


$ rpm -q --qf='%{name}.%{arch}\n' \*myth\*
package *myth* is not installed


Aw, crap, missed an option there. Should have been:

rpm -qa --qf='%{name}.%{arch}\n' \*myth\*


so, uh, I think I installed i686 versions. I was just hoping yum
install myth-suite would just pull in everything to get a 'complete'
mythtv package... Oh well. It'll probably stay just the way it is for
the rest of eternity, or until there's a compelling new version of
MythTV.


You *might* be okay with just a yum install mythtv-suite...


Even though I consider myself a competent user, been using SCO
(*work related, snicker-boo-hiss if you will*) for years


I've had the displeasure of dealing with OSR5 for work-related  
reasons too. :)



and Linux
for years longer. The fact is, if I blow up our now working mythbox,
in any way shape or form, my girlfriend will have my head.


Heh.


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