Re: [mythtv-users] Switched from ATI to Nvidia. AGPGART problem

2006-01-19 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Thursday 19 January 2006 11:22, Steve Adeff wrote:
> On Thursday 19 January 2006 14:08, Adam Propeck wrote:
> > On 1/19/06, Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thursday 19 January 2006 01:01, Phill Edwards wrote:
> > > > > 8xxx versions of the Nvidia driver, and I am thinking that by not
> > > > > "uninstalling" the old ATI drivers, that I may have caused the YUM
> > > > > install to fail to copy over the NVAGP files correctly. Is this a
> > > > > possibility? Is there an easy way to get the ATI junk uninstalled
> > > > > if I used the Binary download from ati.com? Should I try using the
> > > > > Nvidia binary .run file and see if that fixes it?
> > > >
> > > > I have a feeling that you may need to recompile your kernel for the
> > > > "1" option to work. I remember recompiling to do just this and then
> > > > foudn myself in kernel module hell so I gave up!
> > > >
> > > > Happy to be corrected on this, though, cos as I say it's only a faint
> > > > recollection.
> > >
> > > Nope, that sounds correct. If the "1" isn't being respected, its likely
> > > because AGPGART is built into the kernel (rather than as a module), and
> > > thus
> > > you can't replace it w/NvAGP. Red Hat/Fedora builds AGPGART into their
> > > kernels. I've not found any compelling reason to use NvAGP over AGPGART
> > > though.
> >
> > Ouch. so my thinking that the little skips and pauses when I first start
> > playback of an HD recording, or when I resume play from a paused playback
> > of HD are related to the AGPGART are probably vain hope. I didn't know
> > what could be causing the slowdowns and the couple of seconds to get the
> > playback going smoothly. It's not a terrible price to pay, but it is kind
> > of annoying. I had switched to that 6200 Nvidia card, and hoped that the
> > 3100 Sempron would be more than enough to smoothly play this content. I
> > am following your guide almost to the letter Jarod. I don't think I
> > missed any steps anyhow. I'm also setup suid on mythfrontend, so I
> > figured that might give me a little speed edge.
>
> Adam,
> I had this problem for a while to, since I updated to SVN 8625 its
> disappeard though. Occasionally I will get it if my machine is doing other
> things (recording other shows, etc).

Yup, things are definitely better wrt HDTV in svn trunk.

However, for reference, folks are welcome to poke at a complete db dump of the 
settings for my HDTV playback box under 0.18.1+svn fixes, maybe something the 
OP has got differently configured is causing issues.

http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/hdfe-settings.txt

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Re: [mythtv-users] Switched from ATI to Nvidia. AGPGART problem

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Adeff
On Thursday 19 January 2006 14:08, Adam Propeck wrote:
> On 1/19/06, Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thursday 19 January 2006 01:01, Phill Edwards wrote:
> > > > 8xxx versions of the Nvidia driver, and I am thinking that by not
> > > > "uninstalling" the old ATI drivers, that I may have caused the YUM
> > > > install to fail to copy over the NVAGP files correctly. Is this a
> > > > possibility? Is there an easy way to get the ATI junk uninstalled if
> > > > I used the Binary download from ati.com? Should I try using the
> > > > Nvidia binary .run file and see if that fixes it?
> > >
> > > I have a feeling that you may need to recompile your kernel for the
> > > "1" option to work. I remember recompiling to do just this and then
> > > foudn myself in kernel module hell so I gave up!
> > >
> > > Happy to be corrected on this, though, cos as I say it's only a faint
> > > recollection.
> >
> > Nope, that sounds correct. If the "1" isn't being respected, its likely
> > because AGPGART is built into the kernel (rather than as a module), and
> > thus
> > you can't replace it w/NvAGP. Red Hat/Fedora builds AGPGART into their
> > kernels. I've not found any compelling reason to use NvAGP over AGPGART
> > though.
>
> Ouch. so my thinking that the little skips and pauses when I first start
> playback of an HD recording, or when I resume play from a paused playback
> of HD are related to the AGPGART are probably vain hope. I didn't know what
> could be causing the slowdowns and the couple of seconds to get the
> playback going smoothly. It's not a terrible price to pay, but it is kind
> of annoying. I had switched to that 6200 Nvidia card, and hoped that the
> 3100 Sempron would be more than enough to smoothly play this content. I am
> following your guide almost to the letter Jarod. I don't think I missed any
> steps anyhow. I'm also setup suid on mythfrontend, so I figured that might
> give me a little speed edge.
>

Adam, 
I had this problem for a while to, since I updated to SVN 8625 its disappeard 
though. Occasionally I will get it if my machine is doing other things 
(recording other shows, etc).

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Re: [mythtv-users] Switched from ATI to Nvidia. AGPGART problem

2006-01-19 Thread Adam Propeck
Ouch. so my thinking that the little skips and pauses when I first
start playback of an HD recording, or when I resume play from a paused
playback of HD are related to the AGPGART are probably vain hope. I
didn't know what could be causing the slowdowns and the couple of
seconds to get the playback going smoothly. It's not a terrible price
to pay, but it is kind of annoying. I had switched to that 6200 Nvidia
card, and hoped that the 3100 Sempron would be more than enough to
smoothly play this content. I am following your guide almost to the
letter Jarod. I don't think I missed any steps anyhow. I'm also setup
suid on mythfrontend, so I figured that might give me a little speed
edge.On 1/19/06, Jarod Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thursday 19 January 2006 01:01, Phill Edwards wrote:> > 8xxx versions of the Nvidia driver, and I am thinking that by not> > "uninstalling" the old ATI drivers, that I may have caused the YUM
> > install to fail to copy over the NVAGP files correctly. Is this a> > possibility? Is there an easy way to get the ATI junk uninstalled if I> > used the Binary download from 
ati.com? Should I try using the Nvidia> > binary .run file and see if that fixes it?>> I have a feeling that you may need to recompile your kernel for the> "1" option to work. I remember recompiling to do just this and then
> foudn myself in kernel module hell so I gave up!>> Happy to be corrected on this, though, cos as I say it's only a faint> recollection.Nope, that sounds correct. If the "1" isn't being respected, its likely
because AGPGART is built into the kernel (rather than as a module), and thusyou can't replace it w/NvAGP. Red Hat/Fedora builds AGPGART into theirkernels. I've not found any compelling reason to use NvAGP over AGPGART
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Re: [mythtv-users] Switched from ATI to Nvidia. AGPGART problem

2006-01-19 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Thursday 19 January 2006 01:01, Phill Edwards wrote:
> > 8xxx versions of the Nvidia driver, and I am thinking that by not
> > "uninstalling" the old ATI drivers, that I may have caused the YUM
> > install to fail to copy over the NVAGP files correctly. Is this a
> > possibility? Is there an easy way to get the ATI junk uninstalled if I
> > used the Binary download from ati.com? Should I try using the Nvidia
> > binary .run file and see if that fixes it?
>
> I have a feeling that you may need to recompile your kernel for the
> "1" option to work. I remember recompiling to do just this and then
> foudn myself in kernel module hell so I gave up!
>
> Happy to be corrected on this, though, cos as I say it's only a faint
> recollection.

Nope, that sounds correct. If the "1" isn't being respected, its likely 
because AGPGART is built into the kernel (rather than as a module), and thus 
you can't replace it w/NvAGP. Red Hat/Fedora builds AGPGART into their 
kernels. I've not found any compelling reason to use NvAGP over AGPGART 
though.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Switched from ATI to Nvidia. AGPGART problem

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Adeff
On Thursday 19 January 2006 02:31, Adam Propeck wrote:
> I recently switched to an Nvidia 6200w/256MB RAM from an ATI FireGL X1. I
> didn't do a clean system install, and am wondering if this may be the cause
> of some problems I'm having with the Nvidia. I can't get the NVAGP to be
> used even though I have NVAGP "1" in my xorg.conf. Dmesg shows that the
> AGPGART is being utilized instead. I simply used YUM to pull down one of
> the 8xxx versions of the Nvidia driver, and I am thinking that by not
> "uninstalling" the old ATI drivers, that I may have caused the YUM install
> to fail to copy over the NVAGP files correctly. Is this a possibility? Is
> there an easy way to get the ATI junk uninstalled if I used the Binary
> download from ati.com? Should I try using the Nvidia binary .run file and
> see if that fixes it?
>
> Re-installing wouldn't be too bad actually. I'm thinking that if I simply
> backed up my mythconverg database before doing so, that I should be able to
> keep my old recordings showing up correctly, right? Could I make a switch
> in versions of Linux and still keep the recording export out of mySQL? I
> was thinking about giving Kubuntu a shot. Thanks, -Adam

is there a reason you want to use NVAGP? I don't think its any better than 
AGPART..

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Re: [mythtv-users] Switched from ATI to Nvidia. AGPGART problem

2006-01-19 Thread Phill Edwards
> 8xxx versions of the Nvidia driver, and I am thinking that by not
> "uninstalling" the old ATI drivers, that I may have caused the YUM install
> to fail to copy over the NVAGP files correctly. Is this a possibility? Is
> there an easy way to get the ATI junk uninstalled if I used the Binary
> download from ati.com? Should I try using the Nvidia binary .run file and
> see if that fixes it?

I have a feeling that you may need to recompile your kernel for the
"1" option to work. I remember recompiling to do just this and then
foudn myself in kernel module hell so I gave up!

Happy to be corrected on this, though, cos as I say it's only a faint
recollection.

Regards,
Phill
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