Re: [mythtv-users] cutlist

2006-01-29 Thread Osma Ahvenlampi
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 09:40 -0500, Claude Gélinas agr. wrote:
 I can view the recording and edit it with my remote but do I need to
 same some data to a cutlist.file to process it after with mythburn

You create a cutlist for a transcoder by entering edit mode with 'e'
while viewing the recording, selecting where you want to insert a
cutpoint with space or enter, and then exiting with another 'e' press.
While in the edit mode, you can also load the pregenerated commercial
detector cutlist with 'z'.

Then you just transcode the recording. I don't use mythburn, maybe it
can transcode while burning, maybe you need to do that ahead of time.

I can routinely transcode an hour of DVB signal from 2 gigs to 1 of
MPEG-4 with the same resolution (720x576) and no noticeable loss of
quality, and lose the commercials while doing that. That doubles my
storage capacity on the box, so I haven't bothered burning anything to
disc since setting up the system a year ago.

 Could someone explaine a little bit more about that process. My system
 have no keyboard, just a pvr 350 remote.

Map the 'e' and 'z' keys somewhere to your remote. You probably have the
other keys required, ie cursor keys and either space or enter already
mapped there.

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Re: [mythtv-users] cutlist

2006-01-29 Thread Jens Baumeister
Hi!

On 1/29/06, Claude Gélinas agr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can view the recording and edit it with my remote but do I need to
 same some data to a cutlist.file to process it after with mythburn

As far as I know, the mythburn scripts automatically use the mythtv
cutlist - at least they do with my setup (DVB-T with Nova-T). So if
you only nee it for mythburn, you shouldn't need to worry about
getting the cutlist data yourself.

Jens
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Re: [mythtv-users] cutlist

2006-01-29 Thread Jonathan Smith
In my opinion it is essential to have a keyboard to edit the cutlist,
I have a knoppmyth boot cd that I use as a frontent to do this very
task.  The autogenerated cut list does a decent job, but never perfect
from my experience.

On 1/29/06, Jens Baumeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!

 On 1/29/06, Claude Gélinas agr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I can view the recording and edit it with my remote but do I need to
  same some data to a cutlist.file to process it after with mythburn

 As far as I know, the mythburn scripts automatically use the mythtv
 cutlist - at least they do with my setup (DVB-T with Nova-T). So if
 you only nee it for mythburn, you shouldn't need to worry about
 getting the cutlist data yourself.

 Jens
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Re: [mythtv-users] cutlist

2006-01-29 Thread Jens Baumeister
On 1/29/06, Jonathan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 1/29/06, Jens Baumeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 1/29/06, Claude Gélinas agr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   I can view the recording and edit it with my remote but do I need to
   same some data to a cutlist.file to process it after with mythburn
 
  As far as I know, the mythburn scripts automatically use the mythtv
  cutlist

 The autogenerated cut list does a decent job, but never perfect
 from my experience.

The cutlist that commercial flagging produces needs some attention
before it's perfect. However the OP stated that he can use his remote
to edit the recording, so I figure he can correct those errors without
the need for a keyboard.

The original question, as I understood it, was not: How can I cut my
recordings with a remote? or Do I need to manually edit
auto-generated cutlists? but rather How do I export myth cutlists
into a file to use with mythburn? And if mythburn works the same on
analogue capture cards as it does on my DVB setup, the answer would
be: You don't need to worry about it for mythburn as the scripts
already do it automatically.

(Examining mythburn's code should show how it does that, but I'm not
near my mythbox right now.)

Jens
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Re: [mythtv-users] cutlist

2006-01-29 Thread Jonathan Smith
As I read it the OP wanted some explanation about the cutlist process,
 then processing the video via mythburn.  Since Osama did such a good
job describing the editing process, I felt compelled to share some
additional information, an alternative to editing the cutlist should
the author find the need to have a keyboard, a second computer with a
bootable knoppmyth cd would be the only essentials.  The advantage to
this is that you arent using your TV and preventing others from
watching TV.



On 1/29/06, Jens Baumeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 1/29/06, Jonathan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On 1/29/06, Jens Baumeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   On 1/29/06, Claude Gélinas agr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
I can view the recording and edit it with my remote but do I need to
same some data to a cutlist.file to process it after with mythburn
  
   As far as I know, the mythburn scripts automatically use the mythtv
   cutlist
 
  The autogenerated cut list does a decent job, but never perfect
  from my experience.

 The cutlist that commercial flagging produces needs some attention
 before it's perfect. However the OP stated that he can use his remote
 to edit the recording, so I figure he can correct those errors without
 the need for a keyboard.

 The original question, as I understood it, was not: How can I cut my
 recordings with a remote? or Do I need to manually edit
 auto-generated cutlists? but rather How do I export myth cutlists
 into a file to use with mythburn? And if mythburn works the same on
 analogue capture cards as it does on my DVB setup, the answer would
 be: You don't need to worry about it for mythburn as the scripts
 already do it automatically.

 (Examining mythburn's code should show how it does that, but I'm not
 near my mythbox right now.)

 Jens
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Re: [mythtv-users] cutlist

2006-01-29 Thread Claude Gélinas agr.
Le dimanche 29 janvier 2006 à 11:32 -0500, Jonathan Smith a écrit :
 As I read it the OP wanted some explanation about the cutlist process,
  then processing the video via mythburn.  Since Osama did such a good
 job describing the editing process, I felt compelled to share some
 additional information, an alternative to editing the cutlist should
 the author find the need to have a keyboard, a second computer with a
 bootable knoppmyth cd would be the only essentials.  The advantage to
 this is that you arent using your TV and preventing others from
 watching TV.
 
Ok I've added some setup for unused button in the .lircrc file to get
the function I needed to edit the cutlist. As I understand, the cut
position are inside the .nuv file produced by myth.

When I edit the cut list to cut the stuff recorded before and after the
program I needed to record I can see that the commercial are already
gone. are they removed during recording and is there a way to keep them
to check the accuracy of myth on flagging commercial and is needed to
fine tune the cutting.

another point. when I first hit the e button to enter the edit mode I
get an ugly bottom bar which exceed on each side of the screen. I can't
see the beginning and the end of that bar. If I play with the e button I
finally get a fine bar with the cutting position inside a neat rectangle
which is away from the screen side.

Finally is there a way to include chapter mark to be passed to mythburn.
I frequently record educative program that have many subject so I want
to mark these subject to get a separate chapter on the DVD after.

Thanks,
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Re: [mythtv-users] Cutlist to ProjectX format?

2005-05-20 Thread Jonathan Markevich
 There was a lot of talk about using ProjectX a while back, and I am
 pleased with the way it is working.  THe only thing missing, is to get
 it to use the Myth cutlists.  I guess the basis is that I don't
 understand what units the cutlists are stored in...


I tried it as I posted before, and I got a pristine file of just
commercials! :)

I found one thing to make the issue better... I changed the sed syntax
to this:

sed -e s/\\\n/\n/g; s/ - /\n/g; s/^0\n//g cutlist.txt  cutlist2.txt

This does 3 things: remove the \ns, the dashes between the cut points,
and the first 0 entry.  This seems to flop the cutlist successfully,
provided I have a 0 at the first (a cutpoint at any point that deletes
all the way back to the beginning).  This is a fair expectation for me,
as I tend to start the recording a few seconds early, and want to
dispose of the satellite provider's OSD anyway.

Again, if anyone else is using ProjectX, with cutlists or not, speak
up.  I can see how this might be a good drop-in update to the flakey
MythBurn engine... but will probably need some help, at least people
with some know-how...!
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Re: [mythtv-users] Cutlist to ProjectX format?

2005-05-20 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Again, if anyone else is using ProjectX, with cutlists or not, speak
up.  I can see how this might be a good drop-in update to the flakey
MythBurn engine... but will probably need some help, at least people
with some know-how...!
Speak, speak, speak :)
	I haven't gotten cutlists to go, but after the aggravation of 
getting Java and ProjectX all happy together about two weeks ago, I was 
pleased to discover that it actually clean up semi-broken MPEG2 streams. 
It is definately much less picky about broken A/V sync than avidemux.  It 
has lots of potential as a new engine (or at least a basis for rewrite) 
for doing lossless MPEG2 cutting.  Unfortunately, I haven't had time to 
work on the cutlisting at all.  I will speak encouraging words to those 
who are, however... 
:)

-Cory
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* Cory Papenfuss*
* Electrical Engineering candidate Ph.D. graduate student   *
* Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University   *
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