Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl and lirc-kmdl for 2.6.14-1.1637 missing

2005-11-13 Thread David Rees
On 11/13/05, Brad Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  When I do:
>  yum list kernel*
>
>  There are no other kernel's available but the ones I have installed
> (2.6.14-1.1637_FC4 and the old 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4)
>  How can I go back a version with yum? (say 1532, seems appropriate?)

Do yum list available kernel*

Once you have the last revision installed, make sure that it's
selected to boot by default in /etc/grub.conf if using grub as your
bootloader.

Don't forget to ensure that all the necessary kernel modules are also installed.

-Dave
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Re: Installing older Kernel (was: Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl and lirc-kmdl for 2.6.14-1.1637 missing)

2005-11-13 Thread Brad Fuller




Brad Fuller wrote:

  
  
Brad Fuller wrote:
  


Brad Fuller wrote:

  
  
Darren Coleman wrote:
  
This is good advice.

I have learnt through previous trial-and-error to stop blindly using "yum
update" to upgrade the kernel until I am sure ivtv-kmdl has been updated for
the new kernel. :)

Daz


  -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jos Hoekstra
Sent: 13 November 2005 09:05
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl and lirc-kmdl for 2.6.14-1.1637
missing

As usual we should give Axel a bit of time to get everything together,
he 's doing a great job building everything so we don't have to.
Paying back with a bit of patience is the least we can do ;)

Regards,

Jos


  
Thanks all for replies. 
I honestly didn't know that I was using a kernel that was so new! I was
just going through Jarod's guide.
Ok, what kernel is safe?
  
BTW, Axel sent this FYI:
  
  --
ivtv is in the repo, but the generated links on the webpage broke since
Nov. 5th. Thanks for reproting! Either add /all/ in the link or use
smart/apt/yum etc.

Finally alsa-driver is broken on 2.6.14, too. I'll upload 1.0.10rc3
later today.

On the long run I'll try to focus with v4l/ivtv/mythtv bits on RHEL4,
and try to convince Jarod to rebase his guide (although 99% is the
same as FC4). FC4 is upgrading the kernel far too often, including
major upgrades and broken ones, too. And I'd like a more stable
platform for productive systems, including PVRs.
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
---


When I do:
yum list kernel*

There are no other kernel's available but the ones I have installed
(2.6.14-1.1637_FC4 and the old 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4)
How can I go back a version with yum? (say 1532, seems appropriate?) 
  
oh... I did try to manually install the 1532 kernel with rpm, but rpm
complained that I had a newer kernel and refused to install.
  
I don't know about kernels and versions AFA: can you install a kernel
with rpm and then just update grub.conf to pick which one to boot
with?  Will all kernels still be available IF you install them with
'rpm" rather than 'yum' or 'apt-get'? 
  
Put another way, does yum and apt-get have some magic of installing
multiple kernels (in their unique dirs) that rpm does not?
  
Better would be if I could yum install kernel at some older level, but
none seem to be available on the fedora sites. (per my last msg)
  
thanks for the help,
brad
before you ask, yes, I used rpm -i not -U to install the older kernel
rpm


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Installing older Kernel (was: Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl and lirc-kmdl for 2.6.14-1.1637 missing)

2005-11-13 Thread Brad Fuller




Brad Fuller wrote:

  
  
Brad Fuller wrote:
  


Darren Coleman wrote:

  This is good advice.

I have learnt through previous trial-and-error to stop blindly using "yum
update" to upgrade the kernel until I am sure ivtv-kmdl has been updated for
the new kernel. :)

Daz

  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jos Hoekstra
Sent: 13 November 2005 09:05
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl and lirc-kmdl for 2.6.14-1.1637
missing

As usual we should give Axel a bit of time to get everything together,
he 's doing a great job building everything so we don't have to.
Paying back with a bit of patience is the least we can do ;)

Regards,

Jos

  

Thanks all for replies. 
I honestly didn't know that I was using a kernel that was so new! I was
just going through Jarod's guide.
Ok, what kernel is safe?

BTW, Axel sent this FYI:

--
ivtv is in the repo, but the generated links on the webpage broke since
Nov. 5th. Thanks for reproting! Either add /all/ in the link or use
smart/apt/yum etc.

Finally alsa-driver is broken on 2.6.14, too. I'll upload 1.0.10rc3
later today.

On the long run I'll try to focus with v4l/ivtv/mythtv bits on RHEL4,
and try to convince Jarod to rebase his guide (although 99% is the
same as FC4). FC4 is upgrading the kernel far too often, including
major upgrades and broken ones, too. And I'd like a more stable
platform for productive systems, including PVRs.
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
---

  
When I do:
yum list kernel*
  
There are no other kernel's available but the ones I have installed
(2.6.14-1.1637_FC4 and the old 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4)
How can I go back a version with yum? (say 1532, seems appropriate?) 

oh... I did try to manually install the 1532 kernel with rpm, but rpm
complained that I had a newer kernel and refused to install.

I don't know about kernels and versions AFA: can you install a kernel
with rpm and then just update grub.conf to pick which one to boot
with?  Will all kernels still be available IF you install them with
'rpm" rather than 'yum' or 'apt-get'? 

Put another way, does yum and apt-get have some magic of installing
multiple kernels (in their unique dirs) that rpm does not?

Better would be if I could yum install kernel at some older level, but
none seem to be available on the fedora sites. (per my last msg)

thanks for the help,
brad


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Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl and lirc-kmdl for 2.6.14-1.1637 missing

2005-11-13 Thread Brad Fuller




Brad Fuller wrote:

  
  
Darren Coleman wrote:
  
This is good advice.

I have learnt through previous trial-and-error to stop blindly using "yum
update" to upgrade the kernel until I am sure ivtv-kmdl has been updated for
the new kernel. :)

Daz


  -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jos Hoekstra
Sent: 13 November 2005 09:05
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl and lirc-kmdl for 2.6.14-1.1637
missing

As usual we should give Axel a bit of time to get everything together,
he 's doing a great job building everything so we don't have to.
Paying back with a bit of patience is the least we can do ;)

Regards,

Jos


  
Thanks all for replies. 
I honestly didn't know that I was using a kernel that was so new! I was
just going through Jarod's guide.
Ok, what kernel is safe?
  
BTW, Axel sent this FYI:
  
  --
ivtv is in the repo, but the generated links on the webpage broke since
Nov. 5th. Thanks for reproting! Either add /all/ in the link or use
smart/apt/yum etc.

Finally alsa-driver is broken on 2.6.14, too. I'll upload 1.0.10rc3
later today.

On the long run I'll try to focus with v4l/ivtv/mythtv bits on RHEL4,
and try to convince Jarod to rebase his guide (although 99% is the
same as FC4). FC4 is upgrading the kernel far too often, including
major upgrades and broken ones, too. And I'd like a more stable
platform for productive systems, including PVRs.
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
---


When I do:
yum list kernel*

There are no other kernel's available but the ones I have installed
(2.6.14-1.1637_FC4 and the old 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4)
How can I go back a version with yum? (say 1532, seems appropriate?) 


  
  

  
Brad Fuller schreef:
  
  
These two kernel modules do not appear to be available on ATRPMs.
A place for ivtv-kmdl for this kernel appears on the site, but no real
file exists when you click the link.
I didn't see lirc-kmdl at all.

Do you know where I could grab these?

  

  




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Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl and lirc-kmdl for 2.6.14-1.1637 missing

2005-11-13 Thread Brad Fuller




Darren Coleman wrote:

  This is good advice.

I have learnt through previous trial-and-error to stop blindly using "yum
update" to upgrade the kernel until I am sure ivtv-kmdl has been updated for
the new kernel. :)

Daz


  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jos Hoekstra
Sent: 13 November 2005 09:05
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl and lirc-kmdl for 2.6.14-1.1637
missing

As usual we should give Axel a bit of time to get everything together,
he 's doing a great job building everything so we don't have to.
Paying back with a bit of patience is the least we can do ;)

Regards,

Jos

  

Thanks all for replies. 
I honestly didn't know that I was using a kernel that was so new! I was
just going through Jarod's guide.
Ok, what kernel is safe?

BTW, Axel sent this FYI:

--
ivtv is in the repo, but the generated links on the webpage broke since
Nov. 5th. Thanks for reproting! Either add /all/ in the link or use
smart/apt/yum etc.

Finally alsa-driver is broken on 2.6.14, too. I'll upload 1.0.10rc3
later today.

On the long run I'll try to focus with v4l/ivtv/mythtv bits on RHEL4,
and try to convince Jarod to rebase his guide (although 99% is the
same as FC4). FC4 is upgrading the kernel far too often, including
major upgrades and broken ones, too. And I'd like a more stable
platform for productive systems, including PVRs.
-- 
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
---




  


Brad Fuller schreef:



  These two kernel modules do not appear to be available on ATRPMs.
A place for ivtv-kmdl for this kernel appears on the site, but no real
file exists when you click the link.
I didn't see lirc-kmdl at all.

Do you know where I could grab these?
  

  




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RE: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl and lirc-kmdl for 2.6.14-1.1637 missing

2005-11-13 Thread Darren Coleman
This is good advice.

I have learnt through previous trial-and-error to stop blindly using "yum
update" to upgrade the kernel until I am sure ivtv-kmdl has been updated for
the new kernel. :)

Daz


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jos Hoekstra
> Sent: 13 November 2005 09:05
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl and lirc-kmdl for 2.6.14-1.1637
> missing
> 
> As usual we should give Axel a bit of time to get everything together,
> he 's doing a great job building everything so we don't have to.
> Paying back with a bit of patience is the least we can do ;)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jos
> 
> 
> Brad Fuller schreef:
> 
> > These two kernel modules do not appear to be available on ATRPMs.
> > A place for ivtv-kmdl for this kernel appears on the site, but no real
> > file exists when you click the link.
> > I didn't see lirc-kmdl at all.
> >
> > Do you know where I could grab these?
> 
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Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl and lirc-kmdl for 2.6.14-1.1637 missing

2005-11-13 Thread Jos Hoekstra
As usual we should give Axel a bit of time to get everything together, 
he 's doing a great job building everything so we don't have to.

Paying back with a bit of patience is the least we can do ;)

Regards,

Jos


Brad Fuller schreef:


These two kernel modules do not appear to be available on ATRPMs.
A place for ivtv-kmdl for this kernel appears on the site, but no real
file exists when you click the link.
I didn't see lirc-kmdl at all.

Do you know where I could grab these?



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Re: [mythtv-users] ivtv-kmdl and lirc-kmdl for 2.6.14-1.1637 missing

2005-11-13 Thread David Rees
On 11/13/05, Brad Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> These two kernel modules do not appear to be available on ATRPMs.
> A place for ivtv-kmdl for this kernel appears on the site, but no real
> file exists when you click the link.
> I didn't see lirc-kmdl at all.
>
> Do you know where I could grab these?

Just wait, new modules will be made available soon as they usually
are. For now, stick to the previous kernel until modules have been
rebuilt for the latest kernel.

-Dave
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