Best networks with international presence..

2006-12-18 Thread Drew Weaver
I am looking for opinions of what US carriers have the best
connectivity with the international players such as teleglobe, etc.
Mainly, we are trying to determine if there is any way for us to get
less latency from teleglobe's customers to our network (we currently see
something like 1100 ms in teleglobe's london POP in traceroutes from our
customers to our network).
 
thanks for any opinions/advice.
 
-Drew
 


Re: Best networks with international presence..

2006-12-18 Thread Joel Jaeggli

Drew Weaver wrote:
 I am looking for opinions of what US carriers have the best
 connectivity with the international players such as teleglobe, etc.
 Mainly, we are trying to determine if there is any way for us to get
 less latency from teleglobe's customers to our network (we currently see
 something like 1100 ms in teleglobe's london POP in traceroutes from our
 customers to our network).

You sure the cpu on the teleglobe router in the path isn't just pegged?
If the rtt for the whole path is 400ms but one hop in the middles shows
1100ms you're probably measuring the performance of the scheduler in the
OS the router is running not rtt to and from that router, packets going
through it rather than to it likely take a different path through the box.

Of course if the customer's rtt is 1100+ ms then sure there's probably
serious congestion on one of those links.


 thanks for any opinions/advice.
  
 -Drew
  

joelja


Re: Best networks with international presence..

2006-12-18 Thread Joe Abley



On 18-Dec-2006, at 12:04, Joel Jaeggli wrote:


Drew Weaver wrote:

I am looking for opinions of what US carriers have the best
connectivity with the international players such as teleglobe, etc.
Mainly, we are trying to determine if there is any way for us to get
less latency from teleglobe's customers to our network (we  
currently see
something like 1100 ms in teleglobe's london POP in traceroutes  
from our

customers to our network).


You sure the cpu on the teleglobe router in the path isn't just  
pegged?
If the rtt for the whole path is 400ms but one hop in the middles  
shows
1100ms you're probably measuring the performance of the scheduler  
in the
OS the router is running not rtt to and from that router, packets  
going
through it rather than to it likely take a different path through  
the box.


Of course if the customer's rtt is 1100+ ms then sure there's probably
serious congestion on one of those links.


Or the return path from that router is asymmetric, and involves a few  
congested hops into space and back. Teleglobe has customers in many  
parts of the world where such things are not so unusual.



Joe



Clueful verizon Email Admin needed

2006-12-18 Thread Wayne P. HIll


Apologies for spamming the list with this, but we've been getting the  
runaround from Verizon for the last week and really need to find an  
engineer to work with.


We've been recieving reports both from out customers and Verizon  
customers that email between Voicenet.com and Verizon.net is not  
passing through, either to us from from, or from us to them.


The number on puck.nether.net would lead me nowhere without lying,  
which would likely be counter productive.


Is anyone, or does anybody know anyone at Verizon we could work with  
to get this resolved?



Thanks,
Wayne Hill


Anyone in or near Brentford, Middlesex, UK?

2006-12-18 Thread Mike Lyon


That could lend me a Cisco 256MB (or larger) CF flash card for a
SUP720 for a week? In desperate need of one for a migration.

If you can help, please hit me up offlist.

Now back to regularly-scheduled North American network discussions...

Thank You,
Mike Lyon


Topics for NANOG 39 - Feb 4-7 in Toronto

2006-12-18 Thread Steve Feldman


These presentations have been accepted for NANOG 39, to be held
on February 4-7, 2007 in Toronto.

See http://www.nanog.org for registration and other information.

General Session:
  sFlow - Why you should use it and like it - Richard A Steenbergen,
nLayer Communications

  4-Byte ASNs - The View from the Old BGP World - Geoff Huston, APNIC

  Deployment of 32 bit AS Numbers - Henk Uijterwaal, RIPE NCC

  Beyond 200 Gbps - Niels Bakker, AMS-IX

  Lightning talks - by you! (details to follow)

Research Forum:
  A Technical Approach to Net Neutrality - Xiaowei Yang, UC Irvine

Tutorials:
  How to Update Wireshark (Ethereal) - Aamer Akhter, cisco Systems

  BGP Troubleshooting Techniques - Philip Smith, Cisco Systems

  IP Mulitcast/Multipoint for IPTV (and beyond) - Toerless Eckert,
cisco systems

  Best Practices for Determining the Traffic Matrix in IP Networks -
Thomas Telkamp, Cariden technologies, Inc.

  NetFlow to guard the infrastructure - a tutorial - yann berthier

BOFs:
  PGP Key Signing - Joe Abley or appropriate stand-in goon

  How to Host a NANOG Meeting - Joe Abley et al.

  Peering BOF XIV - Bill Norton,

  IPv6 Network Operators BOF - Stewart Bamford

  Pushing the FIB limits, perspectives on pressures confronting
modern routers. - Joel Jaeggli

The meeting will follow the usual Sunday through Wednesday format:

  Sunday Feb. 4,
  - Afternoon: Newcomers reception and community meeting

  Monday Feb. 5
  - Morning: General session
  - Afternoon: Tutorials and BOFs
  - Evening: Beer  Gear reception

  Tuesday Feb. 6
  - Morning: General session
  - Afternoon: Tutorials and BOFs
  - Evening: Informal BOFs (meeting room signup on site)

  Wednesday, Feb. 7
  - Morning: General session

The meeting will end at lunchtime on Wednesday.

More topics will be announced, and a preliminary agenda published,
by January 12, 2007.



RE: Microsoft Corporate Postmaster Contact?

2006-12-18 Thread Jay Stewart

Ken,

This may not be much of a help, but can be a good resource for data when
dealing with mail issues regarding MS.

https://postmaster.live.com/snds/index.aspx

Of course, you need a Valid MSN passport for registration. . . . . sigh. .
. . 

Jay Stewart
Zhonka Broadband

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken
Simpson
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 1:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Microsoft Corporate Postmaster Contact?

A client of ours is having an issue receiving mail from microsoft.com's
corporate servers. Does anyone by chance have a contact for their
postmaster?

Thanks,
Ken

-- 
Ken Simpson, CEO
MailChannels Corporation
Reliable Email Delivery (tm)
http://www.mailchannels.com




RE: Microsoft Corporate Postmaster Contact?

2006-12-18 Thread Steve Sobol

On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Jay Stewart wrote:

 This may not be much of a help, but can be a good resource for data when
 dealing with mail issues regarding MS.
 
 https://postmaster.live.com/snds/index.aspx
 
 Of course, you need a Valid MSN passport for registration. . . . . sigh. .

sigh...? Sign up for a free Windows Live Mail (Hotmail) account, and
bingo, you have a Passport login. Hardly a show-stopper. 

-- 
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED

It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.



Re: Microsoft Corporate Postmaster Contact?

2006-12-18 Thread S. Ryan


I don't think it should ever be acceptable to have to 'sign up' to 
report a security/network problem.


Steve Sobol wroteth on 12/18/2006 3:10 PM:

On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Jay Stewart wrote:


This may not be much of a help, but can be a good resource for data when
dealing with mail issues regarding MS.

https://postmaster.live.com/snds/index.aspx

Of course, you need a Valid MSN passport for registration. . . . . sigh. .


sigh...? Sign up for a free Windows Live Mail (Hotmail) account, and
bingo, you have a Passport login. Hardly a show-stopper. 



Re: Microsoft Corporate Postmaster Contact?

2006-12-18 Thread Steve Sobol

On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Bill Moran wrote:

 Sure.  No show-stopper.  Just make a reasonable contribution to the
 Fraternal Order of Police and we'll be happy to come investigate your
 breakin-in-progress.

Mr. Moran, I think you're taking quite a bit of creative license in 
describing the situation. :) Microsoft doesn't profit from having you as a 
Hotmail user, except that they can then claim you as another one of their 
gazillion users and occasionally email you telling you you Really Need to 
Take Advantage of Some Non-Free Product Or Service. 

-- 
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED

It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.



Re: Microsoft Corporate Postmaster Contact?

2006-12-18 Thread Steve Atkins



On Dec 18, 2006, at 3:39 PM, S. Ryan wrote:



I don't think it should ever be acceptable to have to 'sign up' to  
report a security/network problem.


You don't. That's not what SNDS is. It's a feedback loop
sort of thing, a la scomp (and not at all relevant to the
original posters question, I don't think, but without more
information, who can say?).


Steve Sobol wroteth on 12/18/2006 3:10 PM:

On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Jay Stewart wrote:
This may not be much of a help, but can be a good resource for  
data when

dealing with mail issues regarding MS.

https://postmaster.live.com/snds/index.aspx

Of course, you need a Valid MSN passport for  
registration. . . . . sigh. .

sigh...? Sign up for a free Windows Live Mail (Hotmail) account, and
bingo, you have a Passport login. Hardly a show-stopper.


Cheers,
  Steve



Re: Microsoft Corporate Postmaster Contact?

2006-12-18 Thread Al Iverson


On 12/18/06, S. Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I don't think it should ever be acceptable to have to 'sign up' to
report a security/network problem.


Apples and oranges -- this isn't signing up to report a security issue.

SNDS is Microsoft provindg you data regarding what they can see about
your IPs sending mail to Microsoft's networks. It certainly appears to
be optional. If you are an ISP or somebody else sending any sort of
significant amount of mail, it can be very useful. I've found it quite
helpful.

In theory, the point of registration is to track which data is given
to whom, to prevent abuse. When/if you choose to apply, somebody at a
published network administrator address will be sent an email
requesting permission to give the registered user access to the data.

Regards,
Al Iverson
ExactTarget
--
Al Iverson -- www.aliverson.com
Visit my blog: www.spamresource.com


Re: Microsoft Corporate Postmaster Contact?

2006-12-18 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian


On 12/19/06, Jay Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This may not be much of a help, but can be a good resource for data when
dealing with mail issues regarding MS.

https://postmaster.live.com/snds/index.aspx

Of course, you need a Valid MSN passport for registration. . . . . sigh. .


It probably would NOT help wrt issues with Microsoft corporate email.

And not sending mail *TO* msn .. the guy is apparently having issues
receiving mail from there and wants a contact to troubleshoot stuff at
their end.

In short, not your typical deliverability question.

-srs