Re: Obtaining maps of underground utilities from city governments
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Eric Kuhnke wrote: I am interested in hearing peoples' experiences in obtaining maps of pre-existing underground utilities from city governments (as it relates to deployment of MAN fiber). Thus far the process I am going through can be compared to pulling teeth. Any advice would be greatly appreciated... It really depends on what data they have, and that varies heavily from city to city. Older cities may not have good maps. On the other hand, where the utilities have been rebuilt recently, or for new subdivisions, data is usually available in GIS format. Then there's always the problem of getting data out of the private utilities - most recent cable franchises require that as-built data be provided as GIS or CAD files, but the MSOs don't always follow through. Telcos are usually not required to provide data to local governments. Good places to start are the Planning Director and City Engineer. If your activities have an economic development componenent, talk to the Economic Development Director. I do a lot of consulting to local governments, specifically on telecom issues - so if you send me a few more details of what you're trying to accomplish, I might be able to make some more specific suggestions. Miles Fidelman ** The Center for Civic Networking PO Box 600618 Miles R. Fidelman, President Newtonville, MA 02460-0006 Director, Municipal Telecommunications Strategies Program 617-558-3698 fax: 617-630-8946 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://civic.net/ccn.html Information Infrastructure: Public Spaces for the 21st Century Let's Start With: Internet Wall-Plugs Everywhere Say It Often, Say It Loud: I Want My Internet! **
Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service
Just out of curiousity, I wonder how many domain registrations those of us on nanog represent? Contract sanctions from ICANN are one thing, taking all of our business elsewhere might also be effective at getting a point across (though it might also backfire - pushing Verisign to be even more agressive at taking advantage of their positioning). Miles
RE: Finding clue at comcast.net
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: At 9:29 AM -0500 10/9/03, Austad, Jay wrote: Comcast's phone support department is the *worst*, WORST, I've ever dealt with. I think they are outsourced, they have to go by a script, and many of On the couple of occasions where I got escalation, I once had an informal conversation with a 3rd level. Their phone center is in Halifax, NS -- didn't find out if it is outsourced or not. While the Anybody know to what extent Comcast and the old MediaOne/ATTBI customer support organizations have been merged? All of this sounds like classic MediaOne/ATTBI. I'm on the local cable board, which gets me a few phone numbers one level up the escalation chain, but still I do remember a few months back, on the weekend, hiking in the woods, when I got a callback from a tech. in Candada, who was also calling from his cell phone on his day off. This was part of a 6-month, ongoing problem that turned out to result from a memory leak in the nearest poletop box serving my home - it turns out that this specific box hadn't received the upgrade that fixed a problem that the industry knew about for a year. Sigh... Miles Fidelman
Re: Fw: Re: ICANN - Formal Complaint re Verisign
Somebody pointed out, on another list, that Verisign's move is essentially a man in the middle attack. Which leads to the question: are they in violation of any Federal laws - such as, say, the Patriot Act?
Re: Power outage in North East
Despite some news reports, Boston does not seem to be effected by the blackout, nor is MA in general. As I recall, there was some talk earlier this year about connecting the MA grid to the NY area grid - but that talk got stalled. I think people were worried about insufficient connectivity and resources, and getting dragged down by just the kind of scenario we're seeing right now.
OT: question re. the Volume of unwanted email (fwd)
Hi Folks, Someone on the cybertelecom list raised a question about the real costs of handling spam (see below) in terms of computer resources, transmission, etc. This dovetailed a discussion I had recently with several former BBN colleagues - where someone pointed out that email is not a very high percentage of total internet traffic, compared to all the multimedia and video floating around these days. Since a lot of the arguments about spam hinge on the various costs it imposes on ISPs, it seems like it would be a good thing to get a handle on quantitative data. It occurs to me that a lot of people on this list might have that sort of quantitative data - so... any comments? Regards, Miles Fidelman -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:15:08 -0400 From: Timothy Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Telecom Regulation the Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Issue: the Volume of unwanted email Cybertelecomers: I want the advice and knowledge of people on this list. I dared not use the word spam lest I be filtered out, but the issue is the economic cost of spam for ISPs. There has been much to-do about spam of late. Figures from Canarie show that SMTP transmissions account for about .5% of the volume of Internet traffic. This may be typical of backbone networks, or not. Commercial networks are jealous of revealing information of this nature. ISPs report that spam is now about 46% of email, and that it adds to the cost of transmissions because of the extra machines that have to be bought and operated. Question: What is the economic cost of handling all this spam, in terms of additional boxes, software, transmission costs etc? I am aware that spam adds large costs in terms of time and attention at the user end. Is there evidence of what it adds in terms of hardware and software? As we head toward legislative remedies in the US and Canada, I would like to have a better idea of the economic impact of spam. Timothy Denton, BA,BCL 37 Heney Street Ottawa, Ontario Canada K1N 5V6 www.tmdenton.com 1-613-789-5397 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 923 Mbps across the Ocean ...
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Scott Weeks wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Adam Kujawski wrote: : : I'm going to launch a couple DAT tapes across the parking lot with a spud gun : and see if I can achieve 923 Mb/s! Yer gonna need a big damn spud gun... :-) Contest Rules 1.A minimum of 100 megabytes must be transferred a minimum terrestrial distance of 100 kilometers... Ok, how about a Ferrari full of DATs, on an Autobahn? :-)
Re: Iraq net shutdown temporarily
somebody wrote: So who's up for adding the military in to spews:). I'm, sure some of the folks who dislike spews would appreciate the military's likely response to such an action. :-)
Re: Spam. Again.. -- and blocking net blocks?
On 10 Dec 2002, Nigel Titley wrote: 2) Does anyone else see a HUGE problem with listing a /19 because there is one /32 of a spam advertised website? When did this start happening? Since SPEWS, with its complete lack of accountability, started being used by respectable spam blocking software. Yes, its a massive problem. We had this problem a while back too. One particular problem is that the relays.osirusoft.com block-list - which seems to be used by an awful of people - aggregates data from several dozen sources, including spews.
looking for benchmarks for campus and metropolitan networks
Hi Folks, I do an increasing amount of work with municipal electric utilities and local governments that are building community-wide MANS. The technology of choice is starting to be gigabit ethernet. I'm trying to pull together some benchmarks, or at least rules of thumb, for capacity planning - and I figure that large campus networks are a good place to start. So... to those of you who manage large campus or corporate networks, and particularly those of you running gigE as a campus backbone, do you have any rules of thumb regarding: - average/peak bandwidth per desktop - average/peak bandwidth per workgroup-level switch - how much bandwidth to provision between your campus network and your backbone POP(s) - etc. And... can you suggest any reference sources (books, web sites, email lists, etc.) that focus on design issues for very large campus networks? Thanks very much, Miles Fidelman ** The Center for Civic Networking PO Box 600618 Miles R. Fidelman, President Newtonville, MA 02460-0006 Director, Municipal Telecommunications Strategies Program 617-558-3698 fax: 617-630-8946 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://civic.net/ccn.html Information Infrastructure: Public Spaces for the 21st Century Let's Start With: Internet Wall-Plugs Everywhere Say It Often, Say It Loud: I Want My Internet! **
Re: Major Labels v. Backbones
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, JC Dill wrote: rigorous fight against the RIAA since they would mostly be defending the rights of people and organizations that they don't do business If one voluntarily caves in, they will almost certainly see their sales plummet. Would you buy bandwidth from a provider who has caved in to a also keep in mind that most of the large backbones are also common carriers - if not for Internet, certainly for telephone - so they might well fight the issue on principle ** The Center for Civic Networking PO Box 600618 Miles R. Fidelman, President Newtonville, MA 02460-0006 Director, Municipal Telecommunications Strategies Program 617-558-3698 fax: 617-630-8946 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://civic.net/ccn.html Information Infrastructure: Public Spaces for the 21st Century Let's Start With: Internet Wall-Plugs Everywhere Say It Often, Say It Loud: I Want My Internet! **
