Re: ISP CALEA compliance
On May 23, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Randy Bush wrote: I do have a volunteer from EFF... excellent! steve, can we get this in? Unfortunately, not in the general session. We've filled the available time, and it looks like we will be running until 12:30 Monday and Tuesday, and 13:00 Wednesday. There might be room for a BOF, but I won't know for sure until I actually lay out the agenda later today. Steve
Call for Presentations: NANOG 40 - June 3-6 - Bellevue, WA
The North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG) will hold its 40th meeting June 3-6, 2007, in Bellevue, Washington. The meeting will be hosted by XKL. NANOG conferences provide a forum for information exchange among network operators, engineers, and researchers. Meetings are held three times each year, and include panels, presentations, tutorial sessions, and BOFs. NANOG solicits presentations highlighting issues relating to technology already deployed or soon to be deployed in the Internet. The NANOG community is invited to attend and participate in this forum, which offers numerous opportunities to share ideas, explore research and development, and interact with leaders in this important field of network operations. Vendors are encouraged to work with operators to present deployment experiences with the vendor's products and interoperability. General Session === The community is invited to develop panel sessions or present talks on topics relevant to the NANOG community, including: Network Operations Present-day operational case studies Everyday life in the NOC and tools of interest Exchange point technologies and implementation Peering/colocation coordination issues Content provider issues Security attacks/mitigation, tools, and analysis State of OAM tools for IP and MPLS networks Disaster recovery and planning Deployment Experience Mergers and their impact on interconnected networks Alternative and emerging last-mile technologies (metro/rural, broadband, radio, optical, etc.) VoIP deployment, architecture, peering, and interconnect Anycast IPTV Large-scale wireless Fiber and wavelength use by enterprises Research, Policy, and New Technology Approaches to securing the global routing system (e.g., s*BGP and/or other tools) Routing system scalability Capacity planning standards and tools Inter-provider MPLS/QoS/PCE RIR policy (e.g., implications of HD ratio) Active standards organizations and areas of interest IPv6: economics, deployments, and adoption rates Approaches to IPv6 scalability, e.g., Shim6 Talks = A general session talk should be on a topic of interest to the general NANOG audience, and may be up to 30 minutes long. Panels == Panel selection will be based on the importance, originality, focus and timeliness of the topic; expertise of proposed panelists; as well as the potential for informative and controversial discussion. The panel leader should provide an abstract describing the panel theme, list of panelists, and an outline of how the panel will be organized. After acceptance, the panel leader will be given the option to invite panel authors to submit their presentations to the NANOG Program Committee for review. Until then authors should not submit their individual presentations for the panel. A panel may be up to 90 minutes long. Lightning Talks === A lightning talk is a very short presentation or speech by any attendee on any topic relevant to the NANOG audience. These are limited to ten minutes; this will be strictly enforced. If you have a topic that's timely, interesting, or even a crackpot idea you want to share, we encourage you to consider presenting it. Signups for lightning talks will be accepted during the NANOG meeting. Research Forum == Researchers are invited to present short (10-minute) summaries of their work for operator feedback. Topics include routing, network performance, statistical measurement and analysis, and protocol development and implementation. Studies presented may be works in progress. Researchers from academia, government, and industry are encouraged to present. Tutorials = Proposals are also invited for tutorial sessions from the introductory through advanced level on all related topics, including: Disaster Recovery Planning Troubleshooting BGP Best Practices for Determining Traffic Matrices Options for Blackhole and Discard Routing BGP/MPLS Layer 3 VPNs A tutorial may use either one or two 90-minute sessions. BOFs BOFs (Birds of a Feather sessions) are 90-minute informal sessions on topics which are of interest to a portion of the NANOG community. A typical BOF session includes some presentations, but usually is focused on community discussion and interaction. Frequent BOF topics include: Peering ISP Security Tools A BOF session is 90 minutes. Registration Fee Waivers The meeting registration fee will be waived as follows: - General session talk: one speaker - General session panel: one moderator and all panelists - Research forum talk: one speaker - Tutorial: one instructor - BOF: one moderator How to Present == The primary speaker, moderator, or author should submit
Reminder and Clarification: Lightning talks at NANOG 39!
A clarification to the Lightning Talk process for NANOG 39: Lightning talks will be presented in two sessions during this meeting, three talks on Monday and three on Wednesday. To have your talk considered for both sessions, please have your submission in by 5:00pm EST today. Talks submitted by 5:00pm EST Tuesday will be considered for the Wednesday session. Steve Feldman PC Chair On Feb 1, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Steve Feldman wrote: We have reserved one hour of the NANOG 39 agenda for Lightning Talks. A lightning talk is a very short presentation or speech by any attendee on any topic relevant to the NANOG audience. These are limited to ten minutes; this will be strictly enforced. If you have a topic that's timely, interesting, or even a crackpot idea you want to share, we encourage you to consider presenting it. The Program Committee will decide which submissions are relevant (using criteria based on the NANOG mailing list AUP) and choose the best six to be presented. Use of slides is optional. All slides must be in PDF or Powerpoint format, and will be loaded in advance onto the speaker laptop on the podium. There is a good overview of the use of lightning talks at the Perl conference at http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/07/30/lightningtalk.html. Although their format is slightly different, many of their ideas will apply here. To submit a lightning talk proposal for NANOG 39, go to http://www.nanogpc.org/lightning/ See you in Toronto! Steve Feldman PC Chair
Lightning talks at NANOG 39!
We have reserved one hour of the NANOG 39 agenda for Lightning Talks. A lightning talk is a very short presentation or speech by any attendee on any topic relevant to the NANOG audience. These are limited to ten minutes; this will be strictly enforced. If you have a topic that's timely, interesting, or even a crackpot idea you want to share, we encourage you to consider presenting it. The Program Committee will decide which submissions are relevant (using criteria based on the NANOG mailing list AUP) and choose the best six to be presented. Use of slides is optional. All slides must be in PDF or Powerpoint format, and will be loaded in advance onto the speaker laptop on the podium. There is a good overview of the use of lightning talks at the Perl conference at http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/07/30/lightningtalk.html. Although their format is slightly different, many of their ideas will apply here. To submit a lightning talk proposal for NANOG 39, go to http://www.nanogpc.org/lightning/ See you in Toronto! Steve Feldman PC Chair
NANOG 39: Partial agenda posted
The agenda for the plenary sessions at NANOG 39 has been posted at http://nanog.org/mtg-0702/topics.html Times for the tutorial and BOF sessions, which will be held Monday and Tuesday afternoons, will be updated soon. See you in Toronto! (U.S. residents: don't forget your passports...) Steve Feldman PC Chair
Topics for NANOG 39 - Feb 4-7 in Toronto
These presentations have been accepted for NANOG 39, to be held on February 4-7, 2007 in Toronto. See http://www.nanog.org for registration and other information. General Session: sFlow - Why you should use it and like it - Richard A Steenbergen, nLayer Communications 4-Byte ASNs - The View from the Old BGP World - Geoff Huston, APNIC Deployment of 32 bit AS Numbers - Henk Uijterwaal, RIPE NCC Beyond 200 Gbps - Niels Bakker, AMS-IX Lightning talks - by you! (details to follow) Research Forum: A Technical Approach to Net Neutrality - Xiaowei Yang, UC Irvine Tutorials: How to Update Wireshark (Ethereal) - Aamer Akhter, cisco Systems BGP Troubleshooting Techniques - Philip Smith, Cisco Systems IP Mulitcast/Multipoint for IPTV (and beyond) - Toerless Eckert, cisco systems Best Practices for Determining the Traffic Matrix in IP Networks - Thomas Telkamp, Cariden technologies, Inc. NetFlow to guard the infrastructure - a tutorial - yann berthier BOFs: PGP Key Signing - Joe Abley or appropriate stand-in goon How to Host a NANOG Meeting - Joe Abley et al. Peering BOF XIV - Bill Norton, IPv6 Network Operators BOF - Stewart Bamford Pushing the FIB limits, perspectives on pressures confronting modern routers. - Joel Jaeggli The meeting will follow the usual Sunday through Wednesday format: Sunday Feb. 4, - Afternoon: Newcomers reception and community meeting Monday Feb. 5 - Morning: General session - Afternoon: Tutorials and BOFs - Evening: Beer Gear reception Tuesday Feb. 6 - Morning: General session - Afternoon: Tutorials and BOFs - Evening: Informal BOFs (meeting room signup on site) Wednesday, Feb. 7 - Morning: General session The meeting will end at lunchtime on Wednesday. More topics will be announced, and a preliminary agenda published, by January 12, 2007.
Reminder: NANOG 39 submissions due December 7
This is a reminder that submissions for the NANOG 39 program are due by Thursday, December 7, 2006. For details, see the Call for Presentations at: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0702/callforpresent.html See you in Toronto! Steve
Re: Call for Presentations - NANOG 39 - Toronto
It's the new normal Monday-Wednesday schedule, with a newcomers reception and community meeting Sunday afternoon. We started doing that at the winter meeting, but couldn't in St. Louis due to ARIN's schedule. Steve On Nov 11, 2006, at 6:49 AM, Fergie wrote: Steve, February 4-7? That would be Sunday through Wednesday... is this correct? Did I miss something at the last NANOG meeting? :-) Thanks, - ferg -- Steve Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG) will hold its 39th meeting February 4-7, 2007, in Toronto, Canada. The meeting will be co-hosted by the Toronto Internet Exchange and Teleglobe, a VSNL International company. [snip] -- Fergie, a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
Call for Presentations - NANOG 39 - Toronto
The North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG) will hold its 39th meeting February 4-7, 2007, in Toronto, Canada. The meeting will be co-hosted by the Toronto Internet Exchange and Teleglobe, a VSNL International company. NANOG conferences provide a forum for information exchange among network operators, engineers, and researchers. Meetings are held three times each year, and include panels, presentations, tutorial sessions, and BOFs. NANOG solicits presentations highlighting issues relating to technology already deployed or soon to be deployed in the Internet. The NANOG community is invited to attend and participate in this forum, which offers numerous opportunities to share ideas, explore research and development, and interact with leaders in this important field of network operations. Vendors are encouraged to work with operators to present deployment experiences with the vendor's products and interoperability. General Session === The community is invited to develop panel sessions or present talks on topics relevant to the NANOG community, including: Network Operations Present-day operational case studies Everyday life in the NOC and tools of interest Exchange point technologies and implementation Peering/colocation coordination issues Content provider issues Security attacks/mitigation, tools, and analysis State of OAM tools for IP and MPLS networks Disaster recovery and planning Deployment Experience Mergers and their impact on interconnected networks Alternative and emerging last-mile technologies (metro/rural, broadband, radio, optical, etc.) VoIP deployment, architecture, peering, and interconnect Anycast IPTV Large-scale wireless Fiber and wavelength use by enterprises Research, Policy, and New Technology Approaches to securing the global routing system (e.g., s*BGP and/or other tools) Routing system scalability Capacity planning standards and tools Inter-provider MPLS/QoS/PCE RIR policy (e.g., implications of HD ratio) Active standards organizations and areas of interest IPv6: economics, deployments, and adoption rates Approaches to IPv6 scalability, e.g., Shim6 Panels == Panel selection will be based on the importance, originality, focus and timeliness of the topic; expertise of proposed panelists; as well as the potential for informative and controversial discussion. The panel leader should provide an abstract describing the panel theme, list of panelists, and an outline of how the panel will be organized. After acceptance, the panel leader will be given the option to invite panel authors to submit their presentations to the NANOG Program Committee for review. Until then authors should not submit their individual presentations for the panel. Lightning Talks === A lightning talk is a very short presentation or speech by any attendee on any topic relevant to the NANOG audience. These are limited to ten minutes; this will be strictly enforced. If you have a topic that's timely, interesting, or even a crackpot idea you want to share, we encourage you to consider presenting it. Signups for lightning talks will be accepted during the NANOG meeting. Research Forum == Researchers are invited to present short (10-minute) summaries of their work for operator feedback. Topics include routing, network performance, statistical measurement and analysis, and protocol development and implementation. Studies presented may be works in progress. Researchers from academia, government, and industry are encouraged to present. Tutorials = Proposals are also invited for tutorial sessions from the introductory through advanced level on all related topics, including: Disaster Recovery Planning Troubleshooting BGP Best Practices for Determining Traffic Matrices Options for Blackhole and Discard Routing BGP/MPLS Layer 3 VPNs BOFs BOFs (Birds of a Feather sessions) are 90-minute informal sessions on topics which are of interest to a portion of the NANOG community. A typical BOF session includes some presentations, but usually is focused on community discussion and interaction. Frequent BOF topics include: Peering ISP Security Tools Registration Fee Waivers The meeting registration fee will be waived as follows: - General session talk: one speaker - General session panel: one moderator and all panelists - Research forum talk: one speaker - Tutorial: one instructor - BOF: one moderator How to Present == The primary speaker, moderator, or author should submit presentation information and an abstract online at: http://www.nanogpc.org Once you have done this, the you will receive instructions for submitting your draft slides. See
2006 PC participation summary
I finally had time to go through my notes and put together a participation summary of PC members for 2006: http://www.nanogpc.org/public/participation-2006.html For what it's worth... Steve
Lightning talks for Tuesday
These lightning talks will be presented during the Tuesday plenary at NANOG 38, beginning at 11:00 CDT: 4 byte ASNs - Geoff Huston Higher Speed Ethernet - Peter Schoenmaker Internet2 DNSSEC Pilot - A Reverse Tree for the Holidays - Larry Blunk Route Aggregation Recommendations - Philip Smith The two-tier Internet, delivered - Anton Kapela Practical Wave Division Multiplexing, part 2 - Alex Pilosov and Adam Rothschild Steve
NANOG 38 Lightning Talks
We are now accepting submissions for lightning talks at NANOG 38. Meeting attendees may submit a talk title and brief abstract at http://www.nanogpc.org/lightning/ Selected speakers will be notified Monday evening, with any slides due by Tuesday morning. A lightning talk is a very short presentation or speech by any attendee on any topic relevant to the NANOG audience. These are limited to ten minutes; this will be strictly enforced. If you have a topic that's timely, interesting, or even a crackpot idea you want to share, we encourage you to consider presenting it. Signups for lightning talks will be accepted during the NANOG meeting. The Program Committee will decide which submissions are relevant (using criteria based on the NANOG mailing list AUP,) and choose the best six to be presented. Use of slides is optional. All slides must be in PDF or Powerpoint format, and will be loaded in advance onto the speaker laptop on the podium. There is a good overview of the use of lightning talks at the Perl conference at http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/07/30/lightningtalk.html. Although their format is slightly different, many of their ideas will apply here. Steve Feldman PC Chair
NANOG Program Committee nominations needed
Nominations for the NANOG Program Committee are still open. There are eight terms ending this year: Joe Abley Kevin Epperson Steve Feldman Hank Kilmer Christopher Morrow David O'Leary Ted Seely Bill Woodcock (All eight are eligible for another term, under the charter.) ** Procedure ** To nominate yourself or someone else, please send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following, no later than Wednesday, October 11: - Your name - Nominee's name (if not you) - Nominee's email address - Nominee's phone number - Reasons why you believe the nominee is qualified to serve on the Program Committee. Merit will contact each of the nominees to verify interest and possibly request additional information. The Steering Committee, with input from the current Program Committee, will then select the person to fill the position. ** Eligibility ** The charter states: To be eligible to be appointed as a member of the Program Committee, an individual must have attended one NANOG meeting within the prior calendar year (12 months). ** Duties ** Again quoting the charter: The Program Committee is responsible for motivating/soliciting people to submit interesting talks, selecting the submissions which seem most appropriate (with some attention to presentation skills), and following up with speakers after acceptances to ensure that presentations are completed in time, with ample warning of potential problems with the presentation. Each member of the Program Committee must review all presentations submitted for each meeting. The Chair may excuse a member from one meeting's review cycle due to extenuating circumstances, but if a member misses two meetings in a row, he or she may be removed from the committee. ** Length of term ** This position is for the remainder of a two year term, which began after the Fall 2005 meeting, and ends with the Fall 2007 meeting. If you have any further questions, please post to the nanog-futures list, or contact the Steering Committee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve Feldman, PC Chair [1] The full charter is available at http://www.nanog.org/charter.html
NANOG 38 - Prelliminary Agenda
Here's a very preliminary agenda for NANOG 38, October 8-10 in St. Louis. See http://www.nanog.org for more details. Also, a reminder that the early registration discount expires this Friday, September 15, and the hotel room block expires on Friday, September 22. See you in St. Louis! Steve Feldman PC CHair NANOG 38 - Preliminary Agenda (subject to change) Sunday, October 8 1:30 PM - 5:00 PM: Tutorials - BGP Multihoming Techniques - Philip Smith - Disaster Recovery and Global Site Load Balancing For Distributed Data Center Applications - Zeeshan Naseh, Cisco 5:00 PM - 7:00 PM: NANOG community meeting Monday, October 9 9:00 AM - 12:30 PM: Plenary I - Opening Remarks - How to Monitor SONET, TDM and Optical Transmission Devices Using TL1 and SMNP Monitoring Tools - Rachel K. Bicknell - Multi-Provider Ethernet Service Delivery - Ananda Rajagopal Foundry Networks - Peering Dragnet: Examining BGP routes received from peers - Tom Scholl, ATT Labs, Aman Shaikh, ATT Labs - Maximum-Prefix Tripping: The side effects of leaking on the Internet - Tom Scholl, ATT Labs - Deployment Experience With BGP Flow Specification - Raul Lozano and Derek Gassen (Time Warner Telecom), Danny McPherson and Craig labovitz (Arbor Networks) 2:00 PM - 5:30 PM: BOFs - Peering BOF XIII - Bill Norton, moderator - ISP Security BOF - Danny McPherson, Arbor Networks, moderator 5:30 PM - 7:30 PM: Beer and Gear 7:30 PM - 10:30 PM: Informal BOFs - A meeting room will be made availble for informal BOFs on Monday evening. Signups will be taken on-site. Tuesday, October 10 9:00 AM - 12:00 PM: Plenary II - PHAS: A Prefix Hijack Alert System - Mohit Lad Lixia Zhang (UCLA), Yan Chen Dan Massey (Colorado State University), Beichuan Zhang (University of Arizona) - Securing SIP: Scalable Mechanisms For Protecting SIP-Based - Dan McBride, CloudShield; Somdutt B. Patnaik, Eilon Yardeni, and Henning Schulzrinne, Columbia University; Gaston Ormazabal, Verizon Labs; David Helms, CloudShield Technologies - Resarch Forum: - Revealing Botnet Membership Using DNSBL Counter-Intelligence - Nick Feamster, Georgia Tech - Analyzing the Impact of Major Social Events on Internet eXchange Traffic - Yukiyasu Tarui, Internet Multifeeed Co. / JPNAP - Lightning Talks! 1:30 PM - 5:00 PM: Plenary III - PANEL: Pragmatismv6: a grown-up, critical examination of IPv6 - Todd Underwood (moderator), Daniel Golding, Jason Schiller, David Meyer - The NetIO stack in Windows Vista: Functionality and Deployment - Abolade Gbadegesin - Serious Progress on X.509 Certification of RIR Resource Allocations - Randy Bush, IIJ - Closing Remarks Various times: - PGP Key Signing - Joe Abley
Special call for Program Committee nominations
Jennifor Rexford has deicded to step down from the NANOG Program Committee. On behalf of the NANOG community, I would like to thank Jen for her service to the PC and to the community as a whole. Accordingly, the Steering Committee has directed me to solicit candidates to fill the remainder of her term, which ends with the fall 2007 meeting. The SC plans to make a decision during its regular meeting on September 7. In order to maintain the PC's current balance and diversity, the SC wishes to fill this slot with someone from the research and education community. ** Procedure ** To nominate yourself or someone else, please send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following, no later than Tuesday, September 5: - Your name - Nominee's name (if not you) - Nominee's email address - Nominee's phone number - Reasons why you believe the nominee is qualified to serve on the Program Committee. A committee member will contact each of the nominees to verify interest and possibly request additional information. The Steering Committee, with input from the current Program Committee, will then select the person to fill the position. ** Eligibility ** The charter states: To be eligible to be appointed as a member of the Program Committee, an individual must have attended one NANOG meeting within the prior calendar year (12 months). ** Duties ** Again quoting the charter: The Program Committee is responsible for motivating/soliciting people to submit interesting talks, selecting the submissions which seem most appropriate (with some attention to presentation skills), and following up with speakers after acceptances to ensure that presentations are completed in time, with ample warning of potential problems with the presentation. Each member of the Program Committee must review all presentations submitted for each meeting. The Chair may excuse a member from one meeting's review cycle due to extenuating circumstances, but if a member misses two meetings in a row, he or she may be removed from the committee. ** Length of term ** This position is for the remainder of a two year term, which began after the Fall 2005 meeting, and ends with the Fall 2007 meeting. If you have any further questions, please post to the nanog-futures list, or contact the Steering Committee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve Feldman, PC Chair [1] The full charter is available at http://www.nanog.org/charter.html
Registration for NANOG 38
Registration is now open for NANOG 38, to be held October 8-10, 2006, in St. Louis! For more information and to register, go to: http://www.nanog.org We are using new registration software for this meeting, which will assist with the NANOG voting process. There are also a few new optional demographic questions. Note that the early registration discount period ends September 15, and the hotel room block expires on September 22. Confirmed agenda topics are available at: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0610/topics.html There are still a few openings left for presentations, especially tutorials and BOFs. If you are interested in submitting a talk proposal, review the call for presentations at: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0610/cfp38.html and submit your proposal at http://www.nanogpc.org The deadline for this round of submissions completed is Thursday, August 31. Submissions made after that will only be considered if agenda space remains available. Steve Feldman program chair
NANOG 38: Call for Presentations - Oct 8-10 2006 - St. Louis, MO
The North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG) will hold its 38th meeting October 8-10, 2006, in St. Louis, Missouri. The meeting will be co-hosted by Savvis and Washington University in St. Louis. This will be NANOG's fifth joint meeting with ARIN, the American Registry for Internet Numbers. NANOG will meet from Sunday to Tuesday, and ARIN from Wednesday to Friday, October 11-13. NANOG registration will open in August. NANOG conferences provide a forum for information exchange among network operators, engineers, and researchers. Meetings are held three times each year, and include panels, presentations, tutorial sessions, and BOFs. NANOG solicits presentations highlighting issues relating to technology already deployed or soon to be deployed in the Internet. The NANOG community is invited to attend and participate in this forum, which offers numerous opportunities to share ideas, explore research and development, and interact with leaders in this important field of network operations. Vendors are encouraged to work with operators to present deployment experiences with the vendor's products and interoperability. General Session === The community is invited to develop panel sessions or present talks on topics relevant to the NANOG community, including: Network Operations Present-day operational case studies Everyday life in the NOC and tools of interest Exchange point technologies and implementation Peering/colocation coordination issues Content provider issues Security attacks/mitigation, tools, and analysis State of OAM tools for IP and MPLS networks Disaster recovery and planning Deployment Experience Mergers and their impact on interconnected networks Alternative and emerging last-mile technologies (metro/rural, broadband, radio, optical, etc.) VoIP deployment, architecture, peering, and interconnect Anycast IPTV Large-scale wireless Fiber and wavelength use by enterprises Research, Policy, and New Technology Approaches to securing the global routing system (e.g., s*BGP and/or other tools) Routing system scalability Capacity planning standards and tools Inter-provider MPLS/QoS/PCE RIR policy (e.g., implications of HD ratio) Active standards organizations and areas of interest IPv6: economics, deployments, and adoption rates Approaches to IPv6 scalability, e.g., Shim6 Panels == Panel selection will be based on the importance, originality, focus and timeliness of the topic; expertise of proposed panelists; as well as the potential for informative and controversial discussion. The panel leader should provide an abstract describing the panel theme, list of panelists, and an outline of how the panel will be organized. After acceptance, the panel leader will be given the option to invite panel authors to submit their presentations to the NANOG Program Committee for review. Until then authors should not submit their individual presentations for the panel. Lightning Talks === A lightning talk is a very short presentation or speech by any attendee on any topic relevant to the NANOG audience. These are limited to ten minutes; this will be strictly enforced. If you have a topic that's timely, interesting, or even a crackpot idea you want to share, we encourage you to consider presenting it. Signups for lightning talks will be accepted during the NANOG meeting. Research Forum == Researchers are invited to present short (10-minute) summaries of their work for operator feedback. Topics include routing, network performance, statistical measurement and analysis, and protocol development and implementation. Studies presented may be works in progress. Researchers from academia, government, and industry are encouraged to present. Tutorials = Proposals are also invited for tutorial sessions from the introductory through advanced level on all related topics, including: Disaster Recovery Planning Troubleshooting BGP Best Practices for Determining Traffic Matrices Options for Blackhole and Discard Routing BGP/MPLS Layer 3 VPNs How to Present == Submit presentation information and an abstract online at: http://www.nanogpc.org Once you have done this, the you will receive instructions for submitting your draft slides. See http://www.nanog.org/presentations.html for complete submission guidelines. All submissions must include: Author's name(s) Preferred contact email address Submission category (General Session, Panel, Tutorial, Research Forum) Presentation title Abstract Slides (attachment or URL), in PDF (preferred) or Powerpoint format You may intead submit the presentation information and draft slides in email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The deadline for proposals is Thursday,
Lightning talk selections
The Program Committee has selected these lightning talks for presentation during the general session tomorrow morning: Analysis of DNS Root Server Location, Martin Hannigan Metro WDM in provider networks, Alex Pilosov Fashonably Late - What Your Networks RTT Says About Itself, Anton Kapela Thepiratebay busted - network impact, Mikael Abrahamsson Alerting prefix owners of hijacks in near real time, Mohit Lad Reigning in the botnets operating on your network, Rick Wesson Thanks to everyone who submitted a proposal, unfortunately we couldn't fit them all into the available time. Steve Feldman PC chair
NANOG37 lightning talk submissions
NANOG 37 attendees may now submit abstracts for lightning talks at http://www.nanogpc.org/lightning/ The submission deadline is 12:30pm Tuesday.
Lightning talks at NANOG 37!
We have reserved one hour of the NANOG 37 agenda for Lightning Talks. A lightning talk is a very short presentation or speech by any attendee on any topic relevant to the NANOG audience. These are limited to ten minutes; this will be strictly enforced. If have a topic that's timely, interesting, or even a crackpot idea you want to share, we encourage you to consider presenting it. Signups for lightning talks will be accepted during the NANOG meeting, instructions will be given during the opening plenary on Monday. The Program Committee will decide which submissions are relevant (using criteria based on the NANOG mailing list AUP,) and choose the best six to be presented. Use of slides is optional. Any slides must be in PDF or Powerpoint format, and will be loaded in advance onto the speaker laptop. There is a good overview of the use of lightning talks at the Perl conference at http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/07/30/lightningtalk.html. Although their format is slightly different, many of their ideas will apply here. Steve Feldman Program Chair
NANOG 37 agenda posted
The complete agenda for the upcoming NANOG 37 meeting, June 4-7 in San Jose, has been posted at: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0606/agenda.html If you haven't already, please register at http://www.nanog.org, and we'll see you in San Jose! Steve Feldman Program Chair
NANOG 37 - Early registration discount ends soon
Just a reminder that the discounted early registration fee of $350 for NANOG 37 ends this Sunday, May 14. After that date, the fee rises to $400. If you haven't already, please register at: https://www.merit.edu/nanog/registration.form.html Also, some new items have been added to the agenda. For a current list, see: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0606/topics.html See you in San Jose! Steve Feldman Program Committee chair
Agenda topics for NANOG 37 - San Jose - June 4-7
Here's the current list of confirmed agenda items for NANOG 37, coming up June 4-7 in San Jose, CA: Sunday, June 4: Newcomer Orientation and Reception, 3:30 - 5:00 p.m. Steering Committee Community Meeting, 5:00 - 7:00 p.m. General Session: Mornings, June 5-7 Managing 100+ Million IP AddressesAlain Durand, Comcast Authentication for TCP-based Routing and Management Protocols Ron Bonica, Juniper Anatomy of Recent DNS Reflector Attacks From the Victim and Reflector Points of Views Frank Scalzo, Versisign Panel: Network Neutrality—What Does It Mean To Operators? Dan Golding, Tier1 Research, moderator Understanding the Network-Level Behavior of Spammers Anirudh Ramachandran and Nick Feamster, Georgia Institute of Technology Research Forum: Pretty Good BGP and the Internet Alert Registry Josh Karlin, University of New Mexico Active Measurement of the AS Path Prepending Method Samantha Lo and Rocky K. C. Chang, Hong Kong Polytechnic University Efficient Internet Routing with Independent ISPs Ratul Mahajan, David Wetherall, and Thomas Anderson, University of Washington/ Microsoft Research Lightning Talks - short talks of immediate interest, sellected on-site Tutorials and BOFs: Afternoons, June 5-6 Disaster Recovery for Customers: Physician, Heal Thyself Level: Introductory/IntermediateHoward Berkowitz MPLS Traffic Engineering Level: Introductory/IntermediatePete Templin, TexLink Fundamentals of Passive Monitoring Access Level: Introductory/IntermediateJoy Weber, Net Optics BGP Techniques for Service Providers Level: Introductory/IntermediatePhilip Smith, Cisco Exchange Operators BOF Moderators: Celeste Anderson, USC, and Joe Abley, ISC BGP Tools BOF Moderators: Dan Massey, Colorado State University Nick Feamster, Georgia Institute of Technology and Lixia Zhang OPSEC Working Group BOF Moderator: Ross Callon, Juniper Peering BOF XII Moderator: William B. Norton, Equinix PGP Key Signing Moderator: Joe Abley, ISC More topics will be announced late this week. Please note that the early registration discount period ends this coming Sunday, May 14, and the discount hotel room block ends on Monday, May 22. As always, current information and links for meeting registration and hotel reservations are available at http://www.nanog.org For the Program Committee, Steve Feldman, chair
(Corrected) Call for Presentations - NANOG 37 - June 4-7, 2006
The North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG) will hold its 37th meeting June 4-7, 2006, in a location TBA. The meeting will be hosted by UltraDNS. NANOG conferences provide a forum for information exchange among network operators, engineers, and researchers. Meetings are held three times each year, and include panels, presentations, tutorial sessions, and BOFs. NANOG solicits presentations highlighting issues relating to technology already deployed or soon to be deployed in the Internet. The NANOG community is invited to attend and participate in this forum, which offers numerous opportunities to share ideas, explore research and development, and interact with leaders in this important field of network operations. Vendors are encouraged to work with operators to present deployment experiences with the vendor's products and interoperability. General Session === The community is invited to develop panel sessions or present talks on topics relevant to the NANOG community, including: Network Operations Present-day operational case studies Everyday life in the NOC and tools of interest Exchange point technologies and implementation Peering/colocation coordination issues Content provider issues Security attacks/mitigation, tools, and analysis State of OAM tools for IP and MPLS networks Disaster recovery and planning Deployment Experience Mergers and their impact on interconnected networks Alternative and emerging last-mile technologies (metro/rural, broadband, radio, optical, etc.) VoIP deployment, architecture, peering, and interconnect Anycast IPTV Large-scale wireless Fiber and wavelength use by enterprises Research, Policy, and New Technology Approaches to securing the global routing system (e.g., s*BGP and/or other tools) Routing system scalability Capacity planning standards and tools Inter-provider MPLS/QoS/PCE RIR policy (e.g., implications of HD ratio) Active standards organizations and areas of interest IPv6: economics, deployments, and adoption rates Approaches to IPv6 scalability, e.g., Shim6 Panels == Panel selection will be based on the importance, originality, focus and timeliness of the topic; expertise of proposed panelists; as well as the potential for informative and controversial discussion. The panel leader should provide an abstract describing the panel theme, list of panelists, and an outline of how the panel will be organized. After acceptance, the panel leader will be given the option to invite panel authors to submit their presentations to the NANOG Program Committee for review. Until then authors should not submit their individual presentations for the panel. Lightning Talks === Topics for short (10-20 minute) lightning talks will be solicited on-site at the meeting. Technologies to Watch topics will be appropriate for this session. Lightning talks were a hit in Dallas so collect your thoughts early! Research Forum == Researchers are invited to present short (10-minute) summaries of their work for operator feedback. Topics include routing, network performance, statistical measurement and analysis, and protocol development and implementation. Studies presented may be works in progress. Researchers from academia, government, and industry are encouraged to present. Tutorials = Proposals are also invited for tutorial sessions from the introductory through advanced level on all related topics, including: Disaster Recovery Planning Troubleshooting BGP Best Practices for Determining Traffic Matrices Options for Blackhole and Discard Routing BGP/MPLS Layer 3 VPNs How to Present == Submit an abstract and draft slides for the presentation in email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See this web page for submission guidelines. Your submission should include: Author's name(s) Preferred contact email address Submission category (General Session, Panel, Tutorial, Research Forum) Presentation title Abstract Slides (attachment or URL), in PDF (preferred) or Powerpoint format We are also developing an online submission system, and hope to have it available shortly. Check the NANOG main page for updates. The deadline for proposals is April 17, 2006. While the majority of speaking slots will be filled by April 17, a limited number of slots may be available after that date for topics that are exceptionally timely, important, or critical to the operations of the Internet. Submissions will be reviewed by the NANOG Program Committee, and presenters will be notified of acceptance by May 8. Final drafts of presentation slides are due by May 24, and final versions May 31.
Call for Presentations - NANOG 37 - June 5-7, 2006
The North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG) will hold its 37th meeting June 11-14, 2006, in a location TBA. The meeting will be hosted by UltraDNS. NANOG conferences provide a forum for information exchange among network operators, engineers, and researchers. Meetings are held three times each year, and include panels, presentations, tutorial sessions, and BOFs. NANOG solicits presentations highlighting issues relating to technology already deployed or soon to be deployed in the Internet. The NANOG community is invited to attend and participate in this forum, which offers numerous opportunities to share ideas, explore research and development, and interact with leaders in this important field of network operations. Vendors are encouraged to work with operators to present deployment experiences with the vendor's products and interoperability. General Session === The community is invited to develop panel sessions or present talks on topics relevant to the NANOG community, including: Network Operations Present-day operational case studies Everyday life in the NOC and tools of interest Exchange point technologies and implementation Peering/colocation coordination issues Content provider issues Security attacks/mitigation, tools, and analysis State of OAM tools for IP and MPLS networks Disaster recovery and planning Deployment Experience Mergers and their impact on interconnected networks Alternative and emerging last-mile technologies (metro/rural, broadband, radio, optical, etc.) VoIP deployment, architecture, peering, and interconnect Anycast IPTV Large-scale wireless Fiber and wavelength use by enterprises Research, Policy, and New Technology Approaches to securing the global routing system (e.g., s*BGP and/or other tools) Routing system scalability Capacity planning standards and tools Inter-provider MPLS/QoS/PCE RIR policy (e.g., implications of HD ratio) Active standards organizations and areas of interest IPv6: economics, deployments, and adoption rates Approaches to IPv6 scalability, e.g., Shim6 Panels == Panel selection will be based on the importance, originality, focus and timeliness of the topic; expertise of proposed panelists; as well as the potential for informative and controversial discussion. The panel leader should provide an abstract describing the panel theme, list of panelists, and an outline of how the panel will be organized. After acceptance, the panel leader will be given the option to invite panel authors to submit their presentations to the NANOG Program Committee for review. Until then authors should not submit their individual presentations for the panel. Lightning Talks === Topics for short (10-20 minute) lightning talks will be solicited on-site at the meeting. Technologies to Watch topics will be appropriate for this session. Lightning talks were a hit in Dallas so collect your thoughts early! Research Forum == Researchers are invited to present short (10-minute) summaries of their work for operator feedback. Topics include routing, network performance, statistical measurement and analysis, and protocol development and implementation. Studies presented may be works in progress. Researchers from academia, government, and industry are encouraged to present. Tutorials = Proposals are also invited for tutorial sessions from the introductory through advanced level on all related topics, including: Disaster Recovery Planning Troubleshooting BGP Best Practices for Determining Traffic Matrices Options for Blackhole and Discard Routing BGP/MPLS Layer 3 VPNs How to Present == Submit an abstract and draft slides for the presentation in email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See this web page for submission guidelines. Your submission should include: Author's name(s) Preferred contact email address Submission category (General Session, Panel, Tutorial, Research Forum) Presentation title Abstract Slides (attachment or URL), in PDF (preferred) or Powerpoint format We are also developing an online submission system, and hope to have it available shortly. Check the NANOG main page for updates. The deadline for proposals is April 17, 2006. While the majority of speaking slots will be filled by April 17, a limited number of slots may be available after that date for topics that are exceptionally timely, important, or critical to the operations of the Internet. Submissions will be reviewed by the NANOG Program Committee, and presenters will be notified of acceptance by May 8. Final drafts of presentation slides are due by May 24, and final versions May 31.
NANOG36 Wednesday schedule, lightning talks
Here is the revised NANOG36 agenda for Wednesday, Feb. 15: 9:00-9:30v6fix: Wiping the Slate Clean for IPv6 Kenjiro Cho, WIDE/IIJ, Ruri Hiromi, WIDE/Intec NetCore 9:30-10:00 Hurricane Katrina: Telecom Infrastructure Impacts, Solutions, and Opportunities Paula Rhea, Verizon 10:00-10:30 Katrina Recover Panel moderator: Sean Donelan, Cisco 10:30-11:00 BREAK 11:00-11:20 An Inter-domain Consistency Management Layer Nate Kushman, MIT 11:20-12:20 Lightning Talks: Infrastructure (DNS and Routing) Security - Status and Update by Sandra Murphy Need for Speed: What's next after 10GE? by Mike Hughes A Brief Look at Some DNS Query Data by John Kristoff The impact of fiber access to ISP backbones in .jp by Kenjiro Cho New Network Monitoring Interest Group by Mike Caudill Understanding the Network-Level Behavior of Spammers by Nick Feamster (presented by Randy Bush) 12:20-12:30 Closing Remarks Steve Feldman, CNET, Susan Harris, Merit
Lighting talks at NANOG 36
NANOG 36 attendees may now submit lightning talk proposals at http://www.nanogpc.org/lightining See that page for details. Steve
Re: Lighting talks at NANOG 36
Thanks to Randy for pointing out that I can't type. The correct URL is http://www.nanogpc.org/lightning Steve On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Steve Feldman wrote: NANOG 36 attendees may now submit lightning talk proposals at http://www.nanogpc.org/lightining See that page for details. Steve
NANOG36 wireless issue
Sorry to annoy those of you not here in Dallas, but I'm told that we have an dead access point in the main ballroom, which is causing congestion on its neighbor as everyone reassociates. Merit will replace the dead unit during the lunch break. Steve
Lightning Talks at NANOG 36
We have reserved one hour of the NANOG 36 agenda for Lightning Talks. A lightning talk is a very short presentation or speech by any attendee on any topic relevant to the NANOG audience. These are limited to ten minutes; this will be strictly enforced. If have a topic that's timely, interesting, or even a crackpot idea you want to share, we encourage you to consider presenting it. Signups for lightning talks will be accepted during the NANOG meeting. The Program Committee will accept relevant talks until all the slots are filled. (Details will be announced during the meeting.) Use of slides is optional. Any slides must be in PDF or Powerpoint format, and will be loaded in advance onto the speaker laptop on the podium. There is a good overview of the use of lightning talks at the Perl coference at: http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/07/30/lightningtalk.html Although their format is slightly different, many of their ideas will apply here. Looking forward to seeing you in Dallas, Steve Feldman PC Chair
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Just a reminder that proposals to present at NANOG 36 are due this Thursday, December 15. Send your omplete proposals, including abstract and slides, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The full call for presentations is available at http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0602/cfp36.html Steve Feldman Program Committee chair
REMINDER: NANOG36 submissions due!
Just a reminder that proposals to present at NANOG 36 are due this Thursday, December 15. Send your omplete proposals, including abstract and slides, to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The full call for presentations is available at http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0602/cfp36.html Steve Feldman Program Committee chair (Sorry for the duplicate, I forgot the subject the first time.)
Call for Presentations - NANOG 36, Feb. 2006
The North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG) will hold its 36th meeting February 12-15, in Dallas, Texas. The meeting will be hosted by Yahoo. NANOG conferences provide a forum for information exchange among network operators, engineers, and researchers. Meetings are held three times each year, and include presentations, tutorial sessions, and BOFs. NANOG solicits presentations highlighting issues relating to technology already deployed or soon to be deployed in the Internet. Vendors are encouraged to work with operators to present deployment experiences with the vendor's products and interoperability. Suggested topics include: * Network Operations o Everyday life in the NOC o Present-day operational case studies o Exchange point technologies and implementation o Peering/colocation coordination issues o Content provider issues o Security attacks/mitigation, tools, and analysis o State of OAM tools for IP and MPLS networks o Network and data center redundancy * Deployment Experience o Alternative last-mile technologies (metro/rural, broadband, radio, optical, etc.) o VoIP deployment, peering and interconnect o Anycast o IPTV o Large-scale wireless o Fiber and Wavelength use by enterprises * Research, Policy, and New Technology o Approaches to securing the global routing system (e.g., s*BGP and/or other tools) o Inter-provider MPLS/QoS/PCE o RIR policy (e.g., implications of HD ratio) o Currently active standards organizations and their topic areas o IPv6 economics: why is deployment so slow? o Approaches to IPv6 scalability, e.g., SHIM6 If time permits, topics for short (10-20 minute) lightning talks will be solicited on-site. Technologies to Watch topics will be appropriate for this session. Researchers are invited to present short (10-minute) summaries of their work for operator feedback. Topics include routing, network performance, statistical measurement and analysis, and protocol development and implementation. Studies presented may be works in progress. Researchers from academia, government, and industry are encouraged to present. Proposals are also invited for tutorial sessions. Previous topics have included: * Troubleshooting BGP * Best Practices for Determining Traffic Matrices * Options for Blackhole and Discard Routing * BGP/MPLS Layer 3 VPNs How to Present Submit an abstract and draft slides for the presentation in email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See http://www.nanog.org/presentations.html for submission guidelines. We are also developing an online submission system, and hope to have it available by early December. Check the NANOG main page (http://www.nanog.org) for updates. The deadline for proposals is December 15, 2005. While the majority of speaking slots will be filled by December 15, a limited number of slots may be available after that date for topics that are exceptionally timely, important, or critical to the operations of the Internet. Submissions will be reviewed by the NANOG Program Committee, and presenters will be notified of acceptance by January 2. Final drafts of presentation slides are due by February 1, and final versions February 8. Steve Feldman Chair, NANOG Program Committee
NANOG Program Committee announcement
On behalf of the NANOG Steering Committee, we are pleased to announce that the eight new members of the NANOG Program Committee are: Dan Golding Joel Jaeggli Ren Provo Jennifer Rexford Josh Snowhorn Pete Templin Todd Underwood Vish Yelsangikar They will be joining the eight returning members from the current Program Committee: Joe Abley Kevin Epperson Steve Feldman Hank Kilmer Christopher Morrow David O'Leary Ted Seely Bill Woodcock With so many well-qualified new candidates and current PC members, this was an extraordinarily difficult decision process, but in the end we believe we have come up with a solid, diverse panel which represents most of the NANOG constituency, and has the ability to recruit and select talks from a wide pool. The selection process is documented in detail at http://www.nanog.org/pc.selection.05.html Please join us in thanking everyone who participated as a candidate. All of them are valuable members of the NANOG community, and we look forward to their continuing contributions. We would also like to thank the outgoing PC members: Bill Norton Elise Gerich Susan Hares Craig Labovitz Bill Manning Dave Meyer Stephen Stuart Rob Thomas for their hard work and invaluable contribution to the community. For the Steering Committee, Randy Bush, SC chair Steve Feldman, PC chair
Another Program Committee change
As provided in the NANOG charter, Merit Network has one representative on the Program Committee. Susan Harris as been in that role since the adoption of the charter, and has been an integral part of the PC for a long time prior to that. Susan is stepping down from her PC membership role, and Merit has designated Bert Rossi as their new representative. Susan will continue working with the PC in her administrative and support role, including the tasks of collecting and organizing submissions, communicating with speakers, and drafting the agenda, calls for presentations, and other documents. And perhaps most important, she will continue keeping me and the rest of the PC focused and on schedule. She will also continue to be active in other ways with the NANOG community, including acting as Merit's representative on the mailing list committee. Bert Rossi is a Senior Network Engineer with Michnet, the statewide high-speed research and education network operated in Michigan by Merit. On behalf of the Program Committee I, would like to express heartfelt thanks to Susan, and welcome to Bert. Steve Feldman, PC chair
Program Committee candidates
Here is the lists of candidates for the NANOG Program Committee. First, the new people: Dan Golding Shankar Rao Vish Yelsangikar Guy Tal Jennifer Rexford David Conrad Joel Jaeggli Pete Templin Christopher Quesada Ren Provo Richard Steenbergen Todd Underwood Josh Snowhorn Jeff Young Ed Kern Aaron Hughes Todd Christell Martin Hannigan And second, the current members who wish to continue: Bill Woodcock Steve Feldman Christopher Morrow Joe Abley Henry (Hank) Kilmer Bill Manning Kevin Epperson David O'Leary Ted Seely Susan Hares Elise Gerich William B. Norton (If you should be on either of these lists but are missing, please contact me directly as soon as possible.) Per the NANOG charter, the Steering Committee, in conjunction with the current Program committee, will select eight of the current members to continue for one-year terms. The eight two-year positions will be selected from the combined pool of new and incumbent candidates. We encourage comments on and discussion about the candidates. Private comments or questions may be sent to the Steering Committee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), the Program Committee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), or both. Please use the nanog-futures list for public discussion of the candidates or the process. The actual selection process will begin the week of October 3, and we hope to finish and announce the results the week of October 10. Steve Feldman PC Chair
Reminder: PC nomination deadline is this Friday
A quick reminder that nominations for NANOG Program Committee memberships for the 2005-2007 terms are due in by this Friday, Setember 23. --- The NANOG Steering and Program Committees are soliciting nominations for eight positions on the Program Committee, with two-year terms starting after the October 2005 meeting. According to the charter[1]: The Steering Committee will select the Program Committee with at least half of the members being chosen from among those current members willing to continue service, in order to provide continuity and preserve institutional memory of the programming process. Therefore, eight Program Committee slots will be filled by candidates from this pool of volunteers and current PC members. (The remaining eight slots have terms ending at the Fall, 2006 meeting.) ** Procedure ** To nominate yourself or someone else, please send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following, no later than Friday, September 23: - Your name - Nominee's name (if not you) - Nominee's email address - Nominee's phone number - Reasons why you believe the nominee is qualified to serve on the Program Committee. A committee member will contact each of the nominees to verify interest and possibly request additional information. The list of confirmed nominees will be posted on September 26. Public comments will be invited and accepted for one week. The Steering Committee, in conjunction with the current Program Committee, will then select the eight people to fill these positions. The results will be announced on Monday, October 10. ** Eligibility ** The charter states: To be eligible to be appointed as a member of the Program Committee, an individual must have attended one NANOG meeting within the prior calendar year (12 months). ** Duties ** Again quoting the charter: The Program Committee is responsible for motivating/soliciting people to submit interesting talks, selecting the submissions which seem most appropriate (with some attention to presentation skills), and following up with speakers after acceptances to ensure that presentations are completed in time, with ample warning of potential problems with the presentation. Each member of the Program Committee must review all presentations submitted for each meeting. The Chair may excuse a member from one meeting's review cycle due to extenuating circumstances, but if a member misses two meetings in a row, he or she may be removed from the committee. ** Length of term ** These positions are for two years, beginning after the Fall 2005 meeting, and ending with the Fall 2007 meeting. If you have any further questions, please post to the nanog-futures list, or contact the Steering Committee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Randy Bush, SC Chair Steve Feldman, PC Chair [1] The full charter is available at http://www.nanog.org/charter.html
Nominations for Program Committee Membership
The NANOG Steering and Program Committees are soliciting nominations for eight positions on the Program Committee, with two-year terms starting after the October 2005 meeting. According to the charter[1]: The Steering Committee will select the Program Committee with at least half of the members being chosen from among those current members willing to continue service, in order to provide continuity and preserve institutional memory of the programming process. Therefore, eight Program Committee slots will be filled by candidates from this pool of volunteers and current PC members. (The remaining eight slots have terms ending at the Fall, 2006 meeting.) ** Procedure ** To nominate yourself or someone else, please send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following, no later than Friday, September 23: - Your name - Nominee's name (if not you) - Nominee's email address - Nominee's phone number - Reasons why you believe the nominee is qualified to serve on the Program Committee. A committee member will contact each of the nominees to verify interest and possibly request additional information. The list of confirmed nominees will be posted on September 26. Public comments will be invited and accepted for one week. The Steering Committee, in conjunction with the current Program Committee, will then select the eight people to fill these positions. The results will be announced on Monday, October 10. ** Eligibility ** The charter states: To be eligible to be appointed as a member of the Program Committee, an individual must have attended one NANOG meeting within the prior calendar year (12 months). ** Duties ** Again quoting the charter: The Program Committee is responsible for motivating/soliciting people to submit interesting talks, selecting the submissions which seem most appropriate (with some attention to presentation skills), and following up with speakers after acceptances to ensure that presentations are completed in time, with ample warning of potential problems with the presentation. Each member of the Program Committee must review all presentations submitted for each meeting. The Chair may excuse a member from one meeting's review cycle due to extenuating circumstances, but if a member misses two meetings in a row, he or she may be removed from the committee. ** Length of term ** These positions are for two years, beginning after the Fall 2005 meeting, and ending with the Fall 2007 meeting. If you have any further questions, please post to the nanog-futures list, or contact the Steering Committee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Randy Bush, SC Chair Steve Feldman, PC Chair [1] The full charter is available at http://www.nanog.org/charter.html
Reminder - Submissions for NANOG 35 are due next week
Just a quick reminder that the deadline for proposals for NANOG 35 is Tuesday, September 6. All submissions must be received by [EMAIL PROTECTED] no later than 11:59pm EDT on that date to be guaranteed consideration. (Late submissions will only be considered if space on the agenda is available.) For complete details please see the Call for Presentations at: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0510/cfp35.html If you have any questions or need further information, Please contact me or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve Feldman NANOG Program Committee Chair
Re: /8 end user assignment?
I meant to ask this at a nanog or this IETF... why don't some of the larger content providers (google, msn, yahoo, to name 3 examples) put records in for their maint content pieces? why don't they get v6 connectivity from their providers (that offer such services) ? There are starting to be more and more folks with v6 connectivity... it'd be interesting as a way to drive usage on v6, eh? (I work for a not-quite-as-large content player. These are my own opinions, but this is what I'd tell my empolyer if they asked.) - We can't get provider-independent IPv6 space (without pretending to be a service provider.) - None of our transit providers appear to provide IPv6 transit. Or if they do, they keep it pretty quiet. (Does UUNET?) - Most of our content is delivered via load balancer hardware that would also need to support IPv6. Last time I checked, it didn't. - There are (perceived to be) more important things to spend our limited resources on. Steve
Call for Presentations - NANOG 35 - October, 2005
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS NANOG 35 October 23-25, 2005 Fourth Joint Meeting With ARIN! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG) will hold its 35th meeting October 23-25, 2005, in Los Angeles. The meeting will be hosted by Equinix. This will be NANOG's fourth joint meeting with ARIN, the American Registry for Internet Numbers (www.arin.net). NANOG will meet from Sunday to Tuesday, and ARIN from Wednesday to Friday, October 26-28. NANOG registration opens in August. NANOG conferences provide a forum for information exchange among network operators, engineers, and researchers. Meetings are held three times each year, and include presentations, tutorial sessions, and BOFs. NANOG solicits presentations highlighting issues relating to technology already deployed or soon to be deployed in the Internet. Vendors are encouraged to work with operators to present deployment experiences with the vendor's products and interoperability. Researchers are invited to present short (10-minute) summaries of their work for operator feedback. Topics include routing, network performance, statistical measurement and analysis, and protocol development and implementation. Studies presented may be works in progress. Researchers from academia, government, and industry are encouraged to present. The community is invited to present talks on: Network Operations - Everyday life in the NOC - Present-day operational case studies - Exchange point technologies and implementation - Peering/colocation coordination issues - Content provider issues - Security attacks/mitigation, tools, and analysis - State of OAM tools for IP and MPLS networks Deployment Experience - Alternative last-mile technologies (metro/rural, broadband, radio, optical, etc.) - VoIP deployment - VoIP peering and interconnect - Anycast - IPTV - Large-scale wireless - Wavelength use by enterprises Research, Policy, and New Technology - Approaches to securing the global routing system (e.g., s*BGP and/or other tools) - Inter-provider MPLS/QoS/PCE - RIR policy (e.g., implications of HD ratio) - Currently active standards organizations and their topic areas - IPv6 economics: why is deployment so slow? - Approaches to IPv6 scalability, e.g., SHIM6 Topics for short (10-20 minute) lightning talks will be solicited on-site in LA. Technologies to Watch topics will be appropriate for this session. Proposals are also invited for tutorial sessions. Previous topics have included: - Troubleshooting BGP - Best Practices for Determining Traffic Matrices - Options for Blackhole and Discard Routing - BGP/MPLS Layer 3 VPNs NANOG also welcomes suggestions/recommendations for panels and other presentation topics. How to Present -- Submit an abstract and draft slides for the presentation in email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See www.nanog.org/presentations.html for submission guidelines. The deadline for abstracts and slides is September 6, 2005. While the majority of speaking slots will be filled by September 6, a limited number of slots may be available after that date for topics that are exceptionally timely, important, or critical to the operations of the Internet. Submissions will be reviewed by the NANOG Program Committee, and presenters will be notified of acceptance by September 26. Final drafts of presentation slides are due by October 12, and final versions October 19.
Re: [NON-OPERATIONAL] Re: NANOG Evolution
It shouldn't be complicated. I think members are looking for Operator experience. I don't think it's too hard to make that easily discernable as long as it's fair. Different people will look for different things. That's why we're having an election, instead of just having Merit appoint the six people who have the highest value of some specific measurable quality X. How do you propose we get out the information as to why we should be elected to represent the group at large? There's a mailing list for this. Betty announced it last week, I can't remember off the top of my head. I think it was pre-populated with the list of eligible voters. (I hope there's a way to get off, for those who may not want to receive campaign ads. I agree, this is an imperfect mechanism, but there was a desire to get the process going well in advance of the next meeting. Otherwise we would have to wait a few extra months. Also, note that not all voters will be at any given meeting. There are some definite bootstrap issues with moving to the new governance structure, but what we heard in Seattle and on the lists was that this proposal, while maybe not perfect, was acceptable. [ dead horse ] Lastly, 6.2.1 Program Committee Membership and Selection is not acceptable, IMO, for the group at large. It should be normalized much like the Mailing List Admins. This disables the ability of the Steering Committee to lead. Ultimately, the SC is elected to represent the membership and carry out it's will and that should be uniformly actionable across the board in order for the SC to be taken seriously by the group and by Merit. I'm not sure what you mean here. Starting in October, the SC gets to replace up to half of the PC every year if they wish. In the meantime, the PC still has a job to do, and this charter provides a framework for this to happen. I would like to see the wording in the charter improved (I think it was better in the draft), but the only constraints on the SC that I see are: - This year, the SC must retain at least half of the current 16 PC members. - In subsequent years, those PC members whose terms are expiring may be replaced (or must be, if they hit their term limits.) - The SC has full discretion this year to decide which of the PC members are appointed for one-year vs. two-year terms. - I'm stuck as PC chair until next spring, which appears to have the side effect that they can't fire me in October. I will, however, offer my resignation to the SC if they ask me to. Steve
Re: [NON-OPERATIONAL] Re: NANOG Evolution
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 11:09:37PM -0400, Hannigan, Martin wrote: I agree, this is an imperfect mechanism, but there was a desire to get the process going well in advance of the next meeting. Otherwise we would have to wait a few extra months. Also, note that not all voters will be at any given meeting. All the broadcast mechanisms will be. You know, on my way home tonight I had the wild notion that someone could host a webcast discussion or debate by the candidates before the voting starts. The candidates and a moderator could dial in, and anyone who wants could listen to the stream, either live or recorded. Note that I'm not volunteering for any of this. :) Steve
NANOG Program Committee Announcement
I am pleased to announce that the three new members of the NANOG Committee are: Joe Abley Henry (Hank) Kilmer Christopher Morrow Although we had many fine, well-qualified candidates to choose among, we were only able to select people for the three openings. Please join me in welcoming Joe, Hank, and Chris to the PC. As always, our focus now turns to producing the finest possible program for the October meeting in Los Angeles. For the PC, Steve Feldman chair
Program Committee nominees
The open nomination period for candidates to fill the three open NANOG Program Committee postions has ended. I am pleased to announce that we have eleven people who have accepted nominations: They are (in random order): Richard Steenbergen Joe Abley John Murphy Todd Underwood Christopher Morrow Christopher Quesada Pete Kruckenberg Jay Adelson Patrick Gilmore Henry (Hank) Kilmer Aaron Hughes As required by the draft NANOG charter[1], the current Program Committee members[2] will now begin the difficult task of choosing from among these fine candidates. The charter does not specify a procedure, so after some discussion we have decided to do this: Now through Wednesday, June 15: - Accept comments from the public on the nominees Wednesday, June 15: - Hold a conference call to discuss the nominees and review the voting process Thursday, June 16: - Each current PC member will vote for three of the candidates Friday, June 17: - Tabulate the votes, the top three are selected - Notify the candidates of the results - Announce the results to the mailing list We encourage you to submit any comments on these nominees that you would like us to consider while making our decisions. Please send your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Wednesday. As always, questions or comments on this process or any Program Committee activities are welcomed; feel free to send them either to me or the PC as a whole. Steve Feldman PC Chair [1] NANOG draft charter: http://www.nanog.org/charter05.html [2] Program Committee members: http://www.nanog.org/pc.html
Reminder: Open nominations for Program Committee members
Just a reminder that nominations for the three open NANOG Program Committee positions are due by Friday! - Forwarded message from Steve Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Steve Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 18:24:06 -0700 Subject: Open nominations for Program Committee members There are currently three vacant positions on the NANOG Program Committee. According to the draft charter[1]: ... the three Program Committee seats vacant as of May 2005 will be filled through appointment by the current committee after an open nomination process. Accordingly, the committee is soliciting nominations for these open positions, from now through Friday, June 10, 2005. ** Procedure ** To nominate yourself or someone else, please send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following information, no later than Friday, June 10: - Your name - Nominee's name (if not you) - Nominee's email address - Nominee's phone number - Reasons why you believe the nominee is qualified to serve on the Program Committee. A committee member will contact each of the nominees to verify interest and possibly request additional information. Once all nominations have been received, the committee will begin selecting the three new members from among the nominees. The results will be announced to the nanog-announce list. ** Eligibility ** The draft charter states: To be eligible to be appointed as a member of the Program Committee, an individual must have attended one NANOG meeting within the prior calendar year (12 months). ** Duties ** Again quoting the draft charter: The Program Committee is responsible for motivating/soliciting people to submit interesting talks, selecting the submissions which seem most appropriate (with some attention to presentation skills), and following up with speakers after acceptances to ensure that presentations are completed in time, with ample warning of potential problems with the presentation. Each member of the Program Committee must review all presentations submitted for each meeting. The Chair may excuse a member from one meeting's review cycle due to extenuating circumstances, but if a member misses two meetings in a row, he or she may be removed from the committee. ** Length of term ** These appointments are temporary (as are those for the rest of the current committee), lasting only until the October 2005 meeting. The draft charter does require that the Steering Committee in forming their first appointed Program Committee, carry forward at least half the current members as of that time. If you have any further questions, please post to the nanog list, contact me directly, or entire committee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finally, on behalf of the Program Committee, I would like to thank our three outgoing members, Barry Raveendran Greene, kc claffy, and Curtis Villamizar, for their years of dedicated service to NANOG and the Internet operations community. Steve Feldman PC Chair [1] The draft charter is available at http://www.nanog.org/charter05.html - End forwarded message -
Open nominations for Program Committee members
There are currently three vacant positions on the NANOG Program Committee. According to the draft charter[1]: ... the three Program Committee seats vacant as of May 2005 will be filled through appointment by the current committee after an open nomination process. Accordingly, the committee is soliciting nominations for these open positions, from now through Friday, June 10, 2005. ** Procedure ** To nominate yourself or someone else, please send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following information, no later than Friday, June 10: - Your name - Nominee's name (if not you) - Nominee's email address - Nominee's phone number - Reasons why you believe the nominee is qualified to serve on the Program Committee. A committee member will contact each of the nominees to verify interest and possibly request additional information. Once all nominations have been received, the committee will begin selecting the three new members from among the nominees. The results will be announced to the nanog-announce list. ** Eligibility ** The draft charter states: To be eligible to be appointed as a member of the Program Committee, an individual must have attended one NANOG meeting within the prior calendar year (12 months). ** Duties ** Again quoting the draft charter: The Program Committee is responsible for motivating/soliciting people to submit interesting talks, selecting the submissions which seem most appropriate (with some attention to presentation skills), and following up with speakers after acceptances to ensure that presentations are completed in time, with ample warning of potential problems with the presentation. Each member of the Program Committee must review all presentations submitted for each meeting. The Chair may excuse a member from one meeting's review cycle due to extenuating circumstances, but if a member misses two meetings in a row, he or she may be removed from the committee. ** Length of term ** These appointments are temporary (as are those for the rest of the current committee), lasting only until the October 2005 meeting. The draft charter does require that the Steering Committee in forming their first appointed Program Committee, carry forward at least half the current members as of that time. If you have any further questions, please post to the nanog list, contact me directly, or entire committee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Finally, on behalf of the Program Committee, I would like to thank our three outgoing members, Barry Raveendran Greene, kc claffy, and Curtis Villamizar, for their years of dedicated service to NANOG and the Internet operations community. Steve Feldman PC Chair [1] The draft charter is available at http://www.nanog.org/charter05.html
Correction to Draft Agenda for NANOG 34
There was an error in the draft agenda posted earlier today. The correct list of panelists for the Internet Exchange Operator Panel is: Chris Malayter, TDS Telecom, moderator Mike Hughes, LINX Dave Meyer, OregonIX Tom Bechly, MCI/MAE Troy Davis, SIX Celeste Anderson, Pacific Wave The full corrected draft agenda is available at: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0505/agenda.html Steve Feldman interim program chair
Draft Agenda for NANOG 34
Here is the draft agenda for the upcoming NANOG 34 meeting in Seattle. This is subject to change; we expect to have the final agenda posted early next week. Steve Feldman interim program chair Draft Agenda, NANOG 34 Seattle, May 15-17 Sunday Tutorials/BOF --- 1:30 - 3:00 Bridges, Routers, Switches, Oh My! Level: Introductory/Intermediate Radia Perlman, Sun 1:30 - 3:00 Best Practices for Determining the Traffic Matrix in IP Networks Level: Intermediate Thomas Telkamp, Cariden 3:00 - 3:30 Break 3:30 - 5:00 Challenges in Network Security Protocols Level: Introductory/Intermediate Radia Perlman, Sun 3:30 - 5:30 BGP Techniques for Service Providers Level: Introductory Philip Smith, Cisco 3:30 - 5:00 BGP Analysis Tools BOF Lixia Zhang and Mohit Lad, UCLA; Dan Massey, Colorado State Univ.; Manish Karir, Merit 5:30 - 7:00 Welcome Reception 7:30 - 9:30 Open Community Meeting Betty Burke, Merit Martin Hannigan, VeriSign Steve Feldman, CNET Monday General Session -- 9:00 a.m. Welcome, Introductions Steve Feldman, CNET Chris Quesada, Switch and Data 9:15 a.m. Regional Internet Registry/ WSIS Update Ray Plzak, ARIN 9:35 a.m. Design Decisions and Architecture Analysis of a Global 10G Backbone (We Do it, so You Don't Have To) Vijay Gill, AOL Time Warner 10:05 a.m. VoIP Overview for Operators Eugene Lew, NeuStar 10:35 a.m. BREAK 11:00 a.m. Securing Carrier VoIP: Session Border Control Hadriel Kaplan, Acme Packet 11:30 a.m. The Spoofer Project: Inferring the Extent of Internet Source Address Filtering on the Internet Robert Beverly, MIT 11:50 a.m. Trust Reflection: A Distributed Approach to PGP Key Signing at Multi-Day Events Joe Abley, ISC 12:05 p.m. LUNCH (on your own) 1:30 p.m. Anycast Measurements Used to Highlight Routing Instabilities Peter Boothe, Univ. of Oregon, and Randy Bush, IIJ 2:00 p.m. DNS Anycast Stability Daniel Karrenberg, RIPE NCC 2:30 p.m. Building Nameserver Clusters with Free Software Joe Abley, ISC 3:00 p.m. Anatomy of a Leak: AS9121 (or, How We Learned To Start Worrying and Hate Maximum Prefix Limits) Alin C. Popescu, Brian J. Premore, and Todd Underwood, Renesys 3:15 p.m. BREAK 4:00 p.m. XSP Security Vulnerabilities Panel Martin Hannigan, Versign, moderator Patrick Gilmore, Akamai Technologies Aaron Hughes, Terremark/NOTA Chris Malayter, TDS Telecom Chris Morrow, MCI Richard Steenbergen, N-Layer 5:30-7:30 Beer 'n Gear Monday Evening BOFs --- 7:30 - 9 p.m. Peering BOF IX Bill Norton, Equinix, moderator 7:30 - 9 p.m. INOC-DBA BOF with INOC-DBA Operators Gaurab Raj Upadhaya, PCH, moderator 7:30 - 9 p.m. ISP Security and NSP-SEC BOF IX Chris Morrow, UUNET, moderator Tuesday General Session -- 9:00 a.m. IPv6 - Evolutionary Issues and Challenges Udo Steinegger, Cable Wireless 9:30 a.m. Inter-AS Traffic Engineering Case Studies as Requirements for IPv6 Multihoming Solutions Jason Schiller, UUNET 9:50 a.m. Moonv6 Update Scott Gross, MCI 10:05 a.m. Internet Mini-Cores: Local Communications in the Internet's Spur Regions Steve Gibbard, PCH 10:35 a.m. Network-Wide Inter-Domain Routing Policies: Design and Realization Olaf Maennel, Anja Feldmann (speaker) and Christian Reiser, Technical University Munich Ruediger Volk and Hagen Boehm, Deutsche Telekom 11:05 a.m. BREAK 11:30 a.m. Beyond 10 Gigabit Ethernet Subramanian Krishnamurthy, Force10 11:50 a.m. Internet Exchange Operator Panel Chris Malayter, TDS Telecom, moderator Patrick Gilmore, Akamai Technologies Aaron Hughes, Teremark/NOTA Chris Malayter, TDS Telecom Chris Morrow, MCI Richard Steenbergen, N-Layer 12:50 p.m. Tentative - TBA 1:20 p.m
Updated: Agenda topics for NANOG 34
We've added some new talks and panels to the agenda this week, and they're marked with a *: GENERAL SESSION --- * - Internet Exchange Operator Panel Chris Malayter, TDS Telecom, moderator Mike Hughes, LINX Dave Meyer, OregonIX Tom Bechly, MCI/MAE Troy Davis, SIX Celeste Anderson, Pacific Wave * - Inter-AS Traffic Engineering Case Studies as Requirements for IPv6 Multihoming Solutions Jason Schiller, UUNET * - XSP Security Vulnerabilities Panel Martin Hannigan, Versign, moderator Patrick Gilmore, Akamai Technologies Aaron Hughes, Teremark/NOTA Chris Malayter, TDS Telecom Chris Morrow, MCI Richard Steenbergen, N-Layer * - Regional Internet Registry/WSIS Update Ray Plzak, ARIN * - VoIP Overview for Operators Eugene Lew, NeuStar * - Moonv6 Update Scott Gross, MCI - DNS Anycast Stability Daniel Karrenberg, RIPE - Design Decisions and Architecture Analysis of a Global 10G Backbone (We Do it, so You Don't Have To) Vijay Gill, Time Warner - Securing Carrier VoIP: Session Border Control Hadriel Kaplan, Avici - Anatomy of a Leak: AS9121 (or, How We Learned To Start Worrying and Hate Maximum Prefix Limits) Alin C. Popescu, Brian J. Premore, and Todd Underwood, Renesys - Building Nameserver Clusters with Free Software Joe Abley, ISC - Trust Reflection: A Distributed Approach to PGP Key Signing at Multi-Day Events Joe Abley, ISC - Anycast Measurements Used to Highlight Routing Instabilities Peter Boothe; Randy Bush, IIJ - Beyond 10 Gigabit Ethernet Subramanian Krishnamurthy, Force10 - Internet Mini-Cores: Local Communications in the Internet's Spur Regions Steve Gibbard, PCH - The Spoofer Project: Inferring the Extent of Internet Source Address Filtering on the Internet Robert Beverly, MIT - Network-Wide Inter-Domain Routing Policies: Design and Realization Olaf Maennel, RIPE; Anja Feldmann and Christian Reiser, Technical University Munich; Ruediger Volk and Hagen Boehm, Deutsche Telekom BOFS * - BGP Analysis Tools BOF (Sunday 3:30-5:00 p.m.) Lixia Zhang and Mohit Lad, UCLA Dan Massey, Colorado State Univ. Manish Karir, Merit - ISP Security and NSP-SEC BOF IX (Monday evening) - Peering BOF IX (Monday evening) William B. Norton, Equinix, moderator - INOC-DBA BoF with INOC-DBA Operators (Monday evening) Gaurab Raj Upadhaya, PCH, moderator - End forwarded message -
Topics for NANOG 34
Greetings - here are the topics we've lined up so far for Seattle. Keep an eye out as we post additional talks: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0505/topics.html Also, just a quick reminder that the registration fee goes up $50 on Monday, April 25, and our hotel room block rate expires on April 27. TUTORIALS - - Challenges in Network Security Protocols Level: Introductory Radia Perlman, Sun - Bridges, Routers, Switches, Oh My! Level: Introductory Radia Perlman, Sun - Best Practices for Determining the Traffic Matrix in IP Networks Level: Intermediate Thomas Telkamp, Cariden - BGP Techniques for Service Providers Level: Introductory/Intermediate Philip Smith, Cisco SUNDAY EVENING COMMUNITY MEETING --- - A follow-up to our meeting in Las Vegas (see http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0505/coordination.html). Please join us! GENERAL SESSION --- - DNS Anycast Stability Daniel Karrenberg, RIPE - Design Decisions and Architecture Analysis of a Global 10G Backbone (We Do it, so You Don't Have To) Vijay Gill, Time Warner - Securing Carrier VoIP: Session Border Control Hadriel Kaplan, Avici - Anatomy of a Leak: AS9121 (or, How We Learned To Start Worrying and Hate Maximum Prefix Limits) Alin C. Popescu, Brian J. Premore, and Todd Underwood, Renesys - Building Nameserver Clusters with Free Software Joe Abley, ISC - Trust Reflection: A Distributed Approach to PGP Key Signing at Multi-Day Events Joe Abley, ISC - Anycast Measurements Used to Highlight Routing Instabilities Peter Boothe; Randy Bush, IIJ - Beyond 10 Gigabit Ethernet Neena Pemmaraju, Force10 - Internet Mini-Cores: Local Communications in the Internet's Spur Regions Steve Gibbard, PCH - The Spoofer Project: Inferring the Extent of Internet Source Address Filtering on the Internet Robert Beverly, MIT - Network-Wide Inter-Domain Routing Policies: Design and Realization Olaf Maennel, RIPE; Anja Feldmann and Christian Reiser, Technical University Munich; Ruediger Volk and Hagen Boehm, Deutsche Telekom BOFS - ISP Security and NSP-SEC BOF IX - Peering BOF IX William B. Norton, Equinix, moderator - INOC-DBA BoF with INOC-DBA Operators Gaurab Raj Upadhaya, PCH, moderator
Re: Topics for NANOG 34
On Sun, Apr 17, 2005 at 10:20:24AM -0700, william(at)elan.net wrote: This is not parallel track sessions yet, right? At the moment, we have neither enough meeting space or content for real parallel track sessions this time. We might do something like split off the peering topics and BOF (for example) into a separate semi-track if we can find a logical way to do it, but we won't know until closer to the meeting. Steve
Reminder: NANOG 34 proposals due Monday, April 4
Just a quick reminder that proposals for talks, panels, tutorials, and BOFs for the NANOG 34 meeting in Seattle are due tommorow, Monday April 4. Late submissons are allowed, but will not be reviewed until after the on-time submissions, and will be accepted only if: - they are of exceptional quality and/or timeliness, and - there is space available in the program. The full call for presentations is available at http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0505/cfp34.html Thanks, Steve Feldman NANOG program chair
Program survey results
I have posted the final results of the 2005 program survey at http://www.nanogpc.org/public/pcsurvey.html There were a total of 85 responses. Steve
[feldman@twincreeks.net: NANOG 34: Call for Presentations]
Reminder: program submissions for NANOG 34 are due by Monday, April 4. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to ask the program committee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the administrative staff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] We look forward to hearing from you! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS NANOG 34 May 15-17, 2005 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG) will hold its 34th meeting May 15-17, 2005, in Seattle, Washington. The meeting will be hosted by Switch and Data and held at the Westin Seattle. NANOG conferences provide a forum for information exchange among network operators, engineers, and researchers. Meetings are held three times each year, and include presentations, tutorial sessions, and BOFs. The meetings are informal, with an emphasis on relevance to current engineering practices. NANOG solicits presentations highlighting issues relating to technology already deployed or soon to be deployed in the Internet. Vendors are encouraged to work with operators to present deployment experiences with the vendor's products and interoperability. The community is invited to present talks or tutorials on: - VOIP architectures and deployment - Peering/collocation coordination issues - Security attacks/mitigation, tools, and analysis - Content provider issues - MSO IPTV deployment and operations - Backbone operational case studies - Exchange point technologies and implementation - Non-telco, last-mile technologies (metro/rural, broadband, radio, and optical) - Implementation experience with Ethernet, e.g., TLS, VPLS, Ethernet private line, and VPWS. - Wavelength use by enterprises - Large-scale wireless deployment - Experiences with native IPv6 transport rollout - State of OAM tools for IP and MPLS networks - Options for blackhole and discard routing - BGP/MPLS layer 3 VPNs - Other interesting network technologies Topics for short (10-20 minute) lightning talks will be solicited on-site in Seattle. Researchers are invited to present short (10-minute) summaries of their work for operator feedback. Topics include routing, network performance, statistical measurement and analysis, and protocol development and implementation. Studies presented may be works in progress. Researchers from academia, government, and industry are encouraged to present. How to Present -- Submit an abstract and draft slides for the presentation in email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See http://www.nanog.org/presentations.html for submission guidelines. The deadline for abstracts and slides is April 4, 2005. While the majority of speaking slots will be filled by April 4, a limited number of slots may be available after that date for topics that are exceptionally timely, important, or critical to the operations of the Internet. Submissions will be reviewed by the NANOG Program Committee, and presenters will be notified of acceptance by April 18. Final drafts of presentation slides are due by May 4, and final versions May 11.
Program survey -- extended
Since I've been sick for the last few days, I won't be able to do anything with the survey results until mid-week. So I'm giving all of you procrastinators a reprieve: The survey will stay open until 21:00 PST, Wednesday 3/16. NANOG survey page: http://www.nanog.org/surveys.html Steve
NANOG 34: Call for Presentations
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS NANOG 34 May 15-17, 2005 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The North American Network Operators' Group (NANOG) will hold its 34th meeting May 15-17, 2005, in Seattle, Washington. The meeting will be hosted by Switch and Data and held at the Westin Seattle. NANOG conferences provide a forum for information exchange among network operators, engineers, and researchers. Meetings are held three times each year, and include presentations, tutorial sessions, and BOFs. The meetings are informal, with an emphasis on relevance to current engineering practices. NANOG solicits presentations highlighting issues relating to technology already deployed or soon to be deployed in the Internet. Vendors are encouraged to work with operators to present deployment experiences with the vendor's products and interoperability. The community is invited to present talks or tutorials on: - VOIP architectures and deployment - Peering/collocation coordination issues - Security attacks/mitigation, tools, and analysis - Content provider issues - MSO IPTV deployment and operations - Backbone operational case studies - Exchange point technologies and implementation - Non-telco, last-mile technologies (metro/rural, broadband, radio, and optical) - Implementation experience with Ethernet, e.g., TLS, VPLS, Ethernet private line, and VPWS. - Wavelength use by enterprises - Large-scale wireless deployment - Experiences with native IPv6 transport rollout - State of OAM tools for IP and MPLS networks - Options for blackhole and discard routing - BGP/MPLS layer 3 VPNs - Other interesting network technologies Topics for short (10-20 minute) lightning talks will be solicited on-site in Seattle. Researchers are invited to present short (10-minute) summaries of their work for operator feedback. Topics include routing, network performance, statistical measurement and analysis, and protocol development and implementation. Studies presented may be works in progress. Researchers from academia, government, and industry are encouraged to present. How to Present -- Submit an abstract and draft slides for the presentation in email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] See http://www.nanog.org/presentations.html for submission guidelines. The deadline for abstracts and slides is April 4, 2005. While the majority of speaking slots will be filled by April 4, a limited number of slots may be available after that date for topics that are exceptionally timely, important, or critical to the operations of the Internet. Submissions will be reviewed by the NANOG Program Committee, and presenters will be notified of acceptance by April 18. Final drafts of presentation slides are due by May 4, and final versions May 11.
Reminder: 2005 NANOG Program Survey
Just a reminder to fill out the NANOG program survey! The survey can be reached via the Community Survey link on http://www.nanog.org/surveys.html We need _your_ input to help improve the quality of NANOG meeting content. Steve
Announcing the 2005 NANOG Program Survey
In light of the recent discussions about the future direction of NANOG, the program committee would like your input on the area we can affect the most: the content of NANOG meetings. We have created a short survey, and would like to invite all NANOG list subscribers to participate. We're interested in everyone's thoughts, including those of you who have never attended a meeting. The survey can be reached via the Community Survey link on http://www.nanog.org/surveys.html If you have any questions about the content of the servey, feel free contact me or the whole program committee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). For any technical issues, contact me directly; I'm the one who threw this together, so any bugs are my fault. Thanks for your time, Steve (for the pc)
Program commitee update
This is a status update on the NANOG program committee. First, I'd like to thank my fellow PC members for selecting me as the interim chair. Our primary task and focus for the next few months will be to ensure the quality of the agenda for the Seattle meeting, while the broader discussions on NANOG governance continue. As always, information on the program committee is available at http://www.nanog.org/pc.html. We have setup an alias, [EMAIL PROTECTED], which will reach the entire program committee. We're happy to receive comments and answer any questions sent to us, as a group or individually. Here are a few things you can expect from us over the next couple of weeks: - A survey on meeting content Many interesting ideas for improving the content and format of NANOG meetings were brought up during the community meeting in Las Vegas. This survey is to gauge opinion on some of those ideas from the broad community, including those of you who don't regularly attend the meetings. - The Call for Presentations for the May meeting Although the structure of the meeting won't be set until we've had a chance to review the survey results and other input, we encourage everyone with something to contribute to prepare a submission. Feel free to contact me or any of the other PC members directly if you'd like informal advice or opinions on potential topics. Finally, on behalf of the entire program committee I would like to express our appreciation to Susan Harris for the hard work she has put into keeping NANOG running for the last seven years. Most of you have seen only the public-facing aspects of that role, some of which have now passed to me. But there is also a lot that happens behind the scenes to keep NANOG functioning, and Susan drives most of that. Steve
Corrections: Program committee update
It's been pointed out that my typing skills are somewhat lacking. Aside from the misspelling in the message subject, the alias to reach the program committee should be: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve
Re: soliciting agenda topics for the sunday night meeting
except, you can also send to steve feldman (the c|net one not the verisign one) if you'd like something added to the agenda for sunday night. A clarification and disclaimer: my role in this is to give a brief overview of how the program committee reviews and selects talks. So I'll be there partly as a representative of the establishment. (Not that I don't have my own opinions, so I will endeavor to make it clear whether I'm speaking for the pc or for myself.) Paul and Martin, who have no such encumbrances, will be moderating the open discussion part of the meeting. Steve
Re: VoIP over IPsec
Does anyone have any experience running VoIP over such tunnels? Is there a technical reason why this solution is not feasible? Are Cisco routers not happy doing VoIP/IPsec/GRE in concert? The company I'm working for uses Shoreline VoIP PBX gear spread out over maybe a dozen offices of varying sizes. All are interconnected through the corporate enterprise net, Cisco routers with IPSEC/GRE tunnels over the public Internet. Each office has at least a T1, and we use a variety of providers. We have a typical mix of enterprise interoffice traffic: email, web, file sharing, etc. There's no QoS configured in the routers at present. It all seems to just work fine. Steve
Re: VoIP QOS best practices
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 10:34:14AM -0800, Bill Woodcock wrote: QoS isn't necessarily about throwing packets away. It is more like making voice packets 'go to the head of the line'. Of course, if you have saturation, some packets will get dropped, but at least the voice packets won't get dropped since they were prioritized higher. Why bother? It's a pain in the ass, and doesn't give any noticable benefit. So QoS on the access link can do two things: - Reduce jitter on selected packets (by moving them to the head of the queue) - Reduce packet loss on selected packets (by preferentially dropping non-selected packets, _if_ there is congestion). So, has anyone done measurements to see if either of these makes a difference in the real world? IP phones have jitter buffers to reduce the effects of jitter. Does reducing packet jitter make a noticable difference? VoIP can withstand a small amount of packet loss without too much loss of quality. Does normal TCP backoff keep the UDP packet loss low enough in the event of congestions? It seems that Bill's experience with a real-world deployment indicates that, _subjectively_, percieved quality without QoS is good enough. Anyone have real counter-examples, or real measurements? Steve
Re: Simulated disaster exercise? Re: PAIX
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:10:43AM -0500, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2002 at 10:00:07PM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote: The usual response was it only affected the public exchange fabric, not any private point-to-point circuits between providers through the same facility. But if we're going to compare this to MAE Gigaswitch failures, shouldn't we be talking apples to apples and oranges to oranges? In this case, the MAE was a banana: Worldcom always officially discouraged private interconnects among colocated routers. Steve
