RE: DNS announcement question (take 2)
OK, I seem to have missed identifying a finer point. Both registrars (old and new) also host the DNS records for the domain (actually several domains). My question is which registrar (both are fully configured) will ultimately win at the root server, and how is this determined? The mail and web servers are up and running, and their IP addresses are not going to change. I just want to guarantee that when the account on registrar ABC is fully removed that registrar XYZ will begin DNS announcements to the root servers. Thank you for the responses so far, as well as the pointers to additional info/faq/rfc/etc. -Jim P. -Original Message- From: Jim Popovitch Sent: Saturday, 28 June, 2003 12:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DNS announcement question I have a question about the way DNS records are announced/handled. Thank you in advance for any insight into this, and I hope this isn't too far off topic for discussion here. Background: - I have a domain whose MX and DNS is handled by registrar ABC and I am moving that domain to registrar XYZ. - I have verified (via dig) the proper config on the new registrar. - This has nothing to do with donotcall.gov ;) Questions: 1) How does one registrar 'win out' over a second registrar when updating root servers? 2) How can I verify that the domain will be properly 'announced' to the root servers by the new registrar? -Jim P.
RE: DNS announcement question (take 2)
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003, Jim Popovitch wrote: OK, I seem to have missed identifying a finer point. You need to reread/do that google, you're mistaken in your understanding on what is happening.. Both registrars (old and new) also host the DNS records for the domain (actually several domains). My question is which registrar (both are fully configured) will ultimately win at the root server, and how is this determined? There is no 'win' it is whichever set of DNS servers are configured on that domain which is why I say do a whois on it and you will see. The only time your old registrar can do something similar to 'winning' is if they keep old records on their network and users local to their network (customers) use their DNS with their wrong data, that is the only time tho and most ISPs run different DNS servers for domain hosting to the ones customers use so this scenario wouldnt occur at all The mail and web servers are up and running, and their IP addresses are not going to change. I just want to guarantee that when the account on registrar ABC is fully removed that registrar XYZ will begin DNS announcements to the root servers. Ensure the whois reports the new DNS servers and ensure the new DNS servers give the correct response! Steve Thank you for the responses so far, as well as the pointers to additional info/faq/rfc/etc. -Jim P. -Original Message- From: Jim Popovitch Sent: Saturday, 28 June, 2003 12:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DNS announcement question I have a question about the way DNS records are announced/handled. Thank you in advance for any insight into this, and I hope this isn't too far off topic for discussion here. Background: - I have a domain whose MX and DNS is handled by registrar ABC and I am moving that domain to registrar XYZ. - I have verified (via dig) the proper config on the new registrar. - This has nothing to do with donotcall.gov ;) Questions: 1) How does one registrar 'win out' over a second registrar when updating root servers? 2) How can I verify that the domain will be properly 'announced' to the root servers by the new registrar? -Jim P.
RE: DNS announcement question (take 2)
Sounds like you might need to increase the local preference on the new registrar. OK, back to being serious, they don't announce to the root server. The registered nameservers (belonging to the registrar in your case, but in many other cases belonging to an ISP/NSP/WHP) answer queries made by the resolvers of millions of happy end viewers. The TLD servers (a level below the root servers) will at some point begin referring questions about your domain name(s) to the new nameservers (belonging to the new registrar). Some of those resolvers out and about the Internet will have cached the reference to the old nameservers for 1-2 days, but will eventually forget that and be told to ask the new nameservers. Try the O'Reilly book on DNS and BIND; the mud will become clear as spring water. Pete Templin IP Network Engineer Tex-Link Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] (210) 892-4183 -Original Message- From: Jim Popovitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 12:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: DNS announcement question (take 2) OK, I seem to have missed identifying a finer point. Both registrars (old and new) also host the DNS records for the domain (actually several domains). My question is which registrar (both are fully configured) will ultimately win at the root server, and how is this determined? The mail and web servers are up and running, and their IP addresses are not going to change. I just want to guarantee that when the account on registrar ABC is fully removed that registrar XYZ will begin DNS announcements to the root servers. Thank you for the responses so far, as well as the pointers to additional info/faq/rfc/etc. -Jim P. -Original Message- From: Jim Popovitch Sent: Saturday, 28 June, 2003 12:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DNS announcement question I have a question about the way DNS records are announced/handled. Thank you in advance for any insight into this, and I hope this isn't too far off topic for discussion here. Background: - I have a domain whose MX and DNS is handled by registrar ABC and I am moving that domain to registrar XYZ. - I have verified (via dig) the proper config on the new registrar. - This has nothing to do with donotcall.gov ;) Questions: 1) How does one registrar 'win out' over a second registrar when updating root servers? 2) How can I verify that the domain will be properly 'announced' to the root servers by the new registrar? -Jim P.