Re: [6bone] Reserved ASN 64702, 6to4, 2 ghosts, other oddities and still no working contacts...

2003-10-13 Thread William Caban

On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 10:30, Bill Manning wrote:
   bing!  the 3ffe:: entries are for experimental services -only-
   while the 2001:: will eventually be production services.
   and the test are -not- primarly about connectivity.

Last time I checked on this 3ffe:: was not tagged as for experimental
services only. I have asked this to people working with IPv6 and
haven't received any reply  confirming it, only replies staying that it
hasn't been decided.

Is it now? Please let me know.

(I will hate to do a deployment of 3ffe:: and 2001:: networks and then
after some time tell the users sorry we are not routing 3ffe:: anymore
since it was experimental only.  I prefer telling them from the very
first time.)

--William
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RE: [6bone] Reserved ASN 64702, 6to4, 2 ghosts, other oddities and still no working contacts...

2003-10-11 Thread Jeroen Massar

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Bill Manning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 % Another funny one:
 % 3ffe:3::/32  Subnet of 3ffe::/24 Mismatching origin ASN,
 %  should be 4555 (now: 29216) 
 
   welcome to more root server testing w/ IPv6.

I don't mind that at all, I'd rather see them sticking 's
into the glue :), but I do wonder why they are not using the
RIPE space they got assigned and which is being announced.

2001:7fe::/32 is for I-rootserver-net-20030916 got assigned on
2003-09-16 and was to be seen since 2003-09-17 02:51:14.
This new 6bone can be seen since yesterday, thus there is to
wonder for what purpose. There is no difference between 6bone
and RIR space, unless they want to make a sign that the
'6bone is not production'...

Also these are the current paths:

3ffe:3::/32   8447 1853 786 109 109 4555 29216  IGP 
3ffe:3::/32   1213 3549 6939 109 4555 29216  IGP 
3ffe:3::/32   12779 3549 6939 109 4555 29216  IGP 
3ffe:3::/32  6939 109 4555 29216  IGP 

2001:7fe::/32 has the same issue:
2001:7fe::/32 8954 4555 29216
2001:7fe::/32 12779 6175 4555 29216
2001:7fe::/32 15516 3257 2497 6939 109 4555 29216  

As Cisco (109) and EP.Net are US based I wonder if
Stockholm suddenly moved to the US :)
That last one as from Stockholm - US - Japan - Denmark...
If they really want to test then use some native european
connectivity, there is a *lot* of that over here.
And if they can't get native, please tunnel to a *local*
ISP and not to something in the US, see Minimal IPv6 Peering:
http://ip6.de.easynet.net/ipv6-minimum-peering.txt

K has a RIPE delegation too, but that has not been seen (yet :)
But I heared good stories about work being done on that.

Greets,
 Jeroen

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Re: [6bone] Reserved ASN 64702, 6to4, 2 ghosts, other oddities and still no working contacts...

2003-10-11 Thread Bill Manning

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% Bill Manning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
% 
%  % Another funny one:
%  % 3ffe:3::/32  Subnet of 3ffe::/24 Mismatching origin ASN,
%  %  should be 4555 (now: 29216) 
%  
%  welcome to more root server testing w/ IPv6.
% 
% I don't mind that at all, I'd rather see them sticking 's
% into the glue :), but I do wonder why they are not using the
% RIPE space they got assigned and which is being announced.

they are, for the production service.
this is for experimental activities.

% 
% 2001:7fe::/32 is for I-rootserver-net-20030916 got assigned on
% 2003-09-16 and was to be seen since 2003-09-17 02:51:14.
% This new 6bone can be seen since yesterday, thus there is to
% wonder for what purpose. There is no difference between 6bone
% and RIR space, unless they want to make a sign that the
% '6bone is not production'...

bing!  the 3ffe:: entries are for experimental services -only-
while the 2001:: will eventually be production services.
and the test are -not- primarly about connectivity.

% 
% Also these are the current paths:
% 
% 3ffe:3::/32   8447 1853 786 109 109 4555 29216  IGP 
% 3ffe:3::/32   1213 3549 6939 109 4555 29216  IGP 
% 3ffe:3::/32   12779 3549 6939 109 4555 29216  IGP 
% 3ffe:3::/32  6939 109 4555 29216  IGP 
% 
% 2001:7fe::/32 has the same issue:
% 2001:7fe::/32 8954 4555 29216
% 2001:7fe::/32 12779 6175 4555 29216
% 2001:7fe::/32 15516 3257 2497 6939 109 4555 29216  
% 
% As Cisco (109) and EP.Net are US based I wonder if
% Stockholm suddenly moved to the US :)
% That last one as from Stockholm - US - Japan - Denmark...
% If they really want to test then use some native european
% connectivity, there is a *lot* of that over here.
% And if they can't get native, please tunnel to a *local*
% ISP and not to something in the US, see Minimal IPv6 Peering:
% http://ip6.de.easynet.net/ipv6-minimum-peering.txt
% 
% K has a RIPE delegation too, but that has not been seen (yet :)
% But I heared good stories about work being done on that.
% 
% Greets,
%  Jeroen
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--bill

Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and
certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise).



Reserved ASN 64702, 6to4, 2 ghosts, other oddities and still no working contacts...

2003-10-10 Thread Jeroen Massar

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Checking http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/lg/?show=bogonsfind=::/0

People might want to filter on private ASN's also
when that ASN is being used as transit...

2001:a40::/32 AS64702 is reserved (path: 15516 3257 2497 4697 2914 10109 4538 4787 
64702 20646 8763 5539 1930 9186) Ghost Route (14/12) 
3ffe:3500::/24   3ffe:4005:fefe:: 25396 1752 10109 4538 4787 64702 20646 8319  

We still have these 6to4 specifics btw:
2002:c2b1:d06e::/48  More specific 6to4 prefix (194.177.208.110/32) from AS5408 
2002:c8a2::/33   More specific 6to4 prefix (200.162.0.0/17) from AS15180 
2002:c8c6:4000::/34  More specific 6to4 prefix (200.198.64.0/18) from AS15180 
2002:c8ca:7000::/36  More specific 6to4 prefix (200.202.112.0/20) from AS15180 

And nopes, no contact has been made yet, apparently having
your email address listed in the registry frees you of any
obligations...

Another funny one:
3ffe:3::/32  Subnet of 3ffe::/24 Mismatching origin ASN,
 should be 4555 (now: 29216) 
While there also is an announcement for:
2001:7fe::/32I-rootserver-net-20030916

The ghosts of this month:
3ffe:1f00::/24
3ffe:2400::/24
Both with 10318 5623 common in their paths, obvious isn't it ?

Oh and yes, still no contact from anybody at nortel, apparently
that company doesn't know what IPv6 is. AS10318 (check above also)
is still announcing *their* block and still haven't made any comment
or reply back whatsoever. AS10318 have their own pTLA but apparently
are not contactable for that pTLA either. If anybody knows someone
alive for 3ffe:1300::/24 or AS762 or AS10318 please notify them.

Maybe posting to nanog raises some people from sleep. Mailing
the whois contacts directly doesn't help apparently.

Greets,
 Jeroen

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Re: [6bone] Reserved ASN 64702, 6to4, 2 ghosts, other oddities and still no working contacts...

2003-10-10 Thread Bill Manning

% Another funny one:
% 3ffe:3::/32  Subnet of 3ffe::/24 Mismatching origin ASN,
%  should be 4555 (now: 29216) 

welcome to more root server testing w/ IPv6.

--bill
Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and
certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or otherwise).