Re: On Working Remotely

[Landon Stewart]

This thread reminded me of a The Oatmeal comic I saw not too long ago.
 This explains the *good* and *horrible* about working from home.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/working_home

-- 
Landon Stewart 
Manager of Systems and Engineering
Superb Internet Corp - 888-354-6128 x 4199
Web hosting and more "Ahead of the Rest": http://www.superbhosting.net

Re: High latency/dropped packets on Mitel circuit in LA

[Mike Hale]

I've had some odd issues with Level 3 in LA, but that was due to an issue
with their TWOceanic interconnect.  Other than that, I haven't heard of
anything.

Do you see any errors on your interface?

- Mike
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Paul Brown  wrote:

> I'm having some pretty bad connection issues with one of my remote
> offices in LA. I figured it was probably wind-related last week but it's
> still going on today. The vendor (Mitel) is saying that they're testing
> the circuit as good to the router, but I doubt it because I'm seeing the
> same missed pings on both the outside and inside interfaces from here
> (Richmond, VA) across the MPLS network.
>
> I know it's possible that it could be the router, but my gut tells me
> it's a circuit issue. Does anybody know of anything going on out there?
>
> Thanks,
> Paul
>
>


-- 
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Re: On Working Remotely

[Mark Tinka]

On Tuesday, December 06, 2011 06:25:11 AM Jack Bates wrote:

> Being a forced office worker, I can honestly say that I
> still get more done at home at night than I do during
> the day at the office. I'm most productive when I have
> scheduled maintenance, as I'm permitted to sleep in,
> which puts me working during my comfortable time frames
> (I hate getting up early).

Agree, I get more work done at home as well, be it at night 
or during the day, than I do during office hours as the a 
good chunk of the week normally ends up being full of face-
to-face meetings, and then it's over.

It is harder to work at home becuse of the distractions, but 
when I can, it is more effective.

Mark.


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RE: 128.0.0.0/16 configured as martians in some routers

[John van Oppen]

Here is my little table for 128.0.0.0/21 based on our upstreams:

AS7922: Yes
AS174: No
AS2914: Yes
AS3257: Yes
AS2914: Yes
AS2828: No
AS209: Yes


John @ AS11404

Re: [fyo...@insecure.org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!]

[andrew.wallace]

Using fruitful language and acting like a child isn't going to see you taken 
seriously.

Andrew

> - Forwarded message from Fyodor  -
> F*ck them!  If anyone knows a great copyright attorney in the U.S.,
> please send me the details or ask them to get in touch with me.
>
> Also, shame on Microsoft for paying C|Net to trojan open source
> software!
>
> Cheers,
> Fyodor
>
> - End forwarded message -

Email from AssetAuctions

[Frank Bulk]

Did anyone else received unsolicited an email from AssetAuctions?  Our CFO
received an email from them selling two full /16's and a partial /16.  There
is an unsubscribe feature, but I thought it was interesting, in light of the
Border's IP sale event.  

I was encouraged by this language,
This opportunity is available to a company with justifiable 
need to acquire large contiguous blocks of IP addresses. 

The Buyer must ensure compliance with certain requirements 
of the American Registry of Internet Numbers ("ARIN"). 
Transfer of these IP addresses may be subject to approval 
by "ARIN" and contingent on verification the transfer 
request meets the requirements of NRPM 8.3 
(https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#eight).

Frank

Re: On Working Remotely

[William Herrin]

I teleworked for a few years back in the '90s. I would share a couple
of thoughts:

1. You have to have the disposition for it. For a coder, you have to
be the kind of person who sits down at a computer and writes code,
just because. If it would "require discipline" for you to work from a
home office, telework may not be right for you.

2. If most of the team works in an office, full time telework for any
member of the team is hard. Folks working together in an office
develop a social dynamic. Folks who aren't there aren't a part of that
dynamic. Teleworking is most likely to work out when most or all of
the team teleworks, not just particular members.

2a. You can still telework two days a week and spend the other three
in an office. But not Monday or Friday. Especially not Friday -- after
the rest of the week working in the office, you just won't do it. Your
brain will turn off if you try to work from home Friday after Thursday
in the office.

3. Beware tracking hours. Try to select work which is goal and
deadline based. Your supervisor won't see you in your seat; he can
only judge your performance on what you actually accomplish. When I
teleworked, I found myself taking breaks to mow the lawn, ride a bike
on a nice day or tinker with a personal server. Tracking hours under
such circumstances is almost impossibly hard. Measuring progress
towards a goal is less so.

-Bill


-- 
William D. Herrin  her...@dirtside.com  b...@herrin.us
3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: 
Falls Church, VA 22042-3004

Re: On Working Remotely

[Justin M. Streiner]

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011, David Radcliffe wrote:


I do have to say to anyone planning to work from home, make sure you have a
proper work space.  I have a computer room.  It contains a dozen systems,
electronics gear and parts (I used to have time for that hobby), and
comfortable and ergonomic work spaces.  There is no TV.  No reason for one
because this is the work room.  The mind set should be "I am now in the work
room, so I am at work."  Really works for me.


That's one of the reasons that I don't work from home very much at this 
point - I don't have a proper office, however I'm hoping to fix that some 
time next year.  The other reasons I don't work from home very much are 
that my job still has a lot of hands-on responsibilities (which I don't 
mind - pulling cable or racking equipment is a nice break from staring at 
a screen for long periods of time), and, unfortunately, upper managements'
perceptions of things like teleworking and flex/comp time have not caught 
up with the times :(


jms

Re: HP IPv6 RA Guard

[Daniel Espejel]

So,still assuming the fact that attackers will use the same "traditional
ipv4" methods to alter the correct functioning over a network?...Well,
maybe. Toda's IPv6 expertise for some network andmins and security
experts is minimal. So most trainning and understanding before
implementing its a good idea.

For example, the RA-Guard method has a significant vulnerability: It's
not designed to identify a "complex" IPv6-many extension headers formed
packet (F. Gont - 6Networks). Some other security oriented mechanisms
may fail because of the low IPv6 compliance.

Regards.


-- 
Daniel Espejel Pérez
Técnico Académico
D.G.T.I.C. - U.N.A.M.
GT-IPv6 CLARA / GT-IPv6 U.N.A.M.

Re: IP addresses are now assets

[John Curran]

On Dec 2, 2011, at 1:55 AM, Paul Graydon wrote:

> On 12/1/2011 7:20 PM, John Curran wrote:
>> Wayne -
>> 
>> Your subject line (IP addresses are now assets) could mislead folks,
>> so I'd advise waiting to review the actual sale order once approved by
>> the court before making summary conclusions.
>> 
>> ARIN holds that IP address space is not property but is managed as a
>> public resource.  Address holders may have certain rights (such as the
>> right to be the registrant of the address block, the right to transfer the
>> registration, etc.) but these rights intersect with additional rights to the
>> same address blocks which are held by the community (such as the right
>> of visibility to the public portion of registrations).  The registry policies
>> (set by the community via open and transparent processes) govern the
>> intersection and application of these rights.
>> 
>> For this reason, ARIN works with parties transferring their rights in IP
>> address space to make sure that the documents reflect that sales of
>> rights are subject to the transfer policies in the region, including in this
>> particular case.  A party may transfer their rights to IP addresses, and
>> such rights may have value to an estate, but this does not make the
>> IP addresses "property" per se.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> /John
>> 
> 
> Why'd you have to spoil the fun?  You're supposed to wait a few days, let the 
> pointless righteous fury build up and then step in and try to do the 
> firefighting thing.  It's must have been all but a month since the last time 
> this flared up, it's surely about time it flared up again?  Wouldn't want 
> anyone to miss out on the fun ;)

That's okay...  it will happen anyway. ;-)

For those who are following this matter, there are some more complete
articles now (including pointers to the court documents filed) - 

  
  

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

Re: [fyo...@insecure.org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!]

[Jay Ashworth]

Fyodor:
> F*ck them! If anyone knows a great copyright attorney in the U.S.,
> please send me the details or ask them to get in touch with me.

Larry Lessig?  Mike Godwin?

Might as well start at the top, dude.

Cheers,
-- jra
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

Re: On Working Remotely

[Jay Ashworth]

- Original Message -
> From: bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com

> the problem w/ working from home is that not everyone appreciates "Those
> Darned Accordians" or "Insane Clown Posse" or "Donny and Marie Osmand" at
> 0330 local cranked up to 11...

Nope, Manning; sorry: if you're gonna cop to Donny and Marie, you gotta spell
their last name right.  :-)

Cheers,
-- jr 'at least he didn't spell it Donnie' a
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

Re: IP addresses are now assets

[Jay Ashworth]

- Original Message -
> From: "Owen DeLong" 
> On Dec 5, 2011, at 12:27 AM, cdel.firsthand.net wrote: 
> > The British have been using the correct six character word length
> > for humour ad memoriam.
>
> Extra and unnecessary characters do not a correct word make.

The u is silent.

Like the 3 in Hen3ry.

Cheers,
-- jr 'Stein with an "e-i" and Styne with a "y".' a
-- 
Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink   j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC 2100
Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274

Re: [fyo...@insecure.org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!]

[Steven Bellovin]

> 
> 
> F*ck them!  If anyone knows a great copyright attorney in the U.S.,
> please send me the details or ask them to get in touch with me.


Hmm -- did you say "copyright"?  I wonder what would happen if you sent
them a DMCA takedown notice.  To quote Salvor Hardin, "It's a poor atom 
blaster that doesn't point both ways."  (And there's another Hardin
quote that seems particularly apt when talking about wielding the DMCA:
"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right.")

--Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

RE: Flapping POS Interface on Frame-relay between a Juniper and Cisco

[Jeff Saxe]

Ah, memories are flooding back from my Voice over Frame Relay days on a Cisco 
MC3810. We would crush compressed G.729a voice and barely-enough data for 24 
remote call center employees into, I believe, two quarter-T1 frame DLCI's to 
keep costs down. Anyway, I believe this is the explanation for your flapping: a 
PPP link is intended to go between two routers over, for instance, a private 
leased line, so both of the devices are peers, neither one particularly 
special. Frame-relay, by contrast, was originally designed so that your router 
was an "end user" device and its directly-connected partner device was not your 
other router, which you control, but the frame carrier's frame-relay switch. 
Your router was a DTE device, and their switch, which was in a more "important" 
position in control of the frame-relay NBMA cloud, was the DCE device. Your 
router then slaved to the frame switch via LMI signaling, so that the upstream 
switch instructed you which DLCIs existed and were up at the moment.

So if you connect up two routers with frame-relay encap and each thinks it is 
the DTE, and neither one is taking the role of the frame switch, then when you 
bring them up, they will initially optimistically think their DLCIs are up and 
working, and the routing protocol and traffic will come up... but both of them 
will be waiting for the frame switch to send them LMI indicating that their 
idea of the DLCI up/down status is correct. When a couple minutes go by and 
they don't hear the responses to their LMI enquiries, they will bring all the 
DLCI's down. I thought they would then stay down forever, i.e., not flap, but 
maybe you are shutting / no shutting the POS circuit to try again. Anyway, I 
believe the very simple fix is

interface POS0/0/0
frame-relay intf-type dce

So this will turn your Cisco side of the circuit into "DCE" mode, and if the 
Juniper side stays in "DTE" mode (the default, so probably not listed in the 
config), then the LMI should start behaving between the two. And yes, as Jay 
Hennigan suggested, you might need to use "encap frame-relay ietf" to be 
compatible with non-Cisco gear, or you might need to adjust the frame-relay 
lmi-type -- one type sends the LMI on DLCI number 0, one of them on DLCI 1023, 
whatever. I think you'll need to adjust the two ends until you see LMI 
enquiries both sent and received; right now the "show interface" from the Cisco 
side shows it has not received any LMI enq yet.


Good luck, and I hope it's that simple.   :-)


Jeff Saxe
blue ridge internetworks

321 east main st • suite 200
charlottesville va  22902
434.817.0707 x 2024
www.briworks.com

Central Virginia’s technology authority since 2000.


From: Righa Shake [righa.sh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 11:11 AM
To: af...@afnog.org
Subject: Flapping POS Interface on Frame-relay between a Juniper and Cisco

Hi,

Am having a problem that is buffling.

I recently changed a POS link encapsulation from PPP to Frame-relay.
Since that time the POS interface keeps resetting from time to time.

On my BGP session am receiving cease notifications from my upstream
provider.

The setup is such that we have a cisco on one end and a Juniper on the
other.

interface POS0/0/0
 mtu 4474
 no ip address
 no ip unreachables
 encapsulation frame-relay
 logging event link-status
 crc 32
 pos scramble-atm
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
end

ROUTERshow run int pos0/0/0.101
Building configuration...


!
interface POS0/0/0.101 point-to-point
ip address X.X.X.X 255.255.255.252
frame-relay interface-dlci 101
end

ROUTER#show int pos0/0/0
POS0/0/0 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is SPA-2XOC12-POS
  MTU 4474 bytes, BW 622000 Kbit/sec, DLY 100 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 6/255, rxload 38/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 32, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  Scramble enabled
  LMI enq sent  81981, LMI stat recvd 77480, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI up
  LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
  LMI DLCI 0  LMI type is ANSI Annex D  frame relay DTE  segmentation
inactive
  FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
  Broadcast queue 0/256, broadcasts sent/dropped 26/0, interface broadcasts
0
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1w2d
  Input queue: 0/375/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 94336000 bits/sec, 13151 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 1647 bits/sec, 7049 packets/sec
 12211574207 packets input, 10967607038364 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts (0 IP multicasts)
 6970870 runts, 2179 giants, 0 throttles
  0 parity
 892493293 input errors, 882184781 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored,
3335463 abort
 6379191154 packets output, 1614018181446 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 applique, 4 interface resets
 0 unknown protocol drops
 

Re: Flapping POS Interface on Frame-relay between a Juniper and Cisco

[Scott Weeks]

On 11/19/11 8:11 AM, Righa Shake wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Am having a problem that is buffling.
> 
> I recently changed a POS link encapsulation from PPP to Frame-relay.
> Since that time the POS interface keeps resetting from time to time.
> 
> On my BGP session am receiving cease notifications from my upstream
> provider.
> 
> The setup is such that we have a cisco on one end and a Juniper on the
> other.
---



Were you not able to get it going after the discussion on AfNOG?

http://afnog.org/pipermail/afnog/2011-November/16.html

What else is happening?  Still seeing alarms and flapping at the 
reduced rate?  If so, what alarms and how often is it flapping?


scott

Re: Flapping POS Interface on Frame-relay between a Juniper and Cisco

[Jay Hennigan]

On 11/19/11 8:11 AM, Righa Shake wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Am having a problem that is buffling.
> 
> I recently changed a POS link encapsulation from PPP to Frame-relay.
> Since that time the POS interface keeps resetting from time to time.
> 
> On my BGP session am receiving cease notifications from my upstream
> provider.
> 
> The setup is such that we have a cisco on one end and a Juniper on the
> other.
> 
> interface POS0/0/0
>  mtu 4474

Does this match the other end?

>  no ip address
>  no ip unreachables
>  encapsulation frame-relay

You might try "encapsulation frame-relay ietf"  for full compatibility
with non-Cisco gear at the other end.


>  logging event link-status
>  crc 32
>  pos scramble-atm
>  frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> end
> 
> ROUTERshow run int pos0/0/0.101
> Building configuration...

[snippage]
> !
> interface POS0/0/0.101 point-to-point

>   LMI enq sent  81981, LMI stat recvd 77480, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI up
  ^ ^
Something is dropping frames.

[snippage]

>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1w2d

[snippage]

>  6970870 runts, 2179 giants, 0 throttles
>   0 parity
>  892493293 input errors, 882184781 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored,
> 3335463 abort

Lots of CRC line errors, runts, giants, LMI dropped frames.  Kind of
looks like you could have a physical problem with the link itself.


--
Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - j...@impulse.net
Impulse Internet Service  -  http://www.impulse.net/
Your local telephone and internet company - 805 884-6323 - WB6RDV

[fyo...@insecure.org: C|Net Download.Com is now bundling Nmap with malware!]

[bmanning]

 With permission


- Forwarded message from Fyodor  -

Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 14:35:30 -0800

Hi Folks.  I've just discovered that C|Net's Download.Com site has
started wrapping their Nmap downloads (as well as other free software
like VLC) in a trojan installer which does things like installing a
sketchy "StartNow" toolbar, changing the user's default search engine
to Microsoft Bing, and changing their home page to Microsoft's MSN.

The way it works is that C|Net's download page (screenshot attached)
offers what they claim to be Nmap's Windows installer.  They even
provide the correct file size for our official installer.  But users
actually get a Cnet-created trojan installer.  That program does the
dirty work before downloading and executing Nmap's real installer.

Of course the problem is that users often just click through installer
screens, trusting that download.com gave them the real installer and
knowing that the Nmap project wouldn't put malicious code in our
installer.  Then the next time the user opens their browser, they
find that their computer is hosed with crappy toolbars, Bing searches,
Microsoft as their home page, and whatever other shenanigans the
software performs!  The worst thing is that users will think we (Nmap
Project) did this to them!

I took and attached a screen shot of the C|Net trojan Nmap installer
in action.  Note how they use our registered "Nmap" trademark in big
letters right above the malware "special offer" as if we somehow
endorsed or allowed this.  Of course they also violated our trademark
by claiming this download is an Nmap installer when we have nothing to
do with the proprietary trojan installer.

In addition to the deception and trademark violation, and potential
violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, this clearly violates
Nmap's copyright.  This is exactly why Nmap isn't under the plain GPL.
Our license (http://nmap.org/book/man-legal.html) specifically adds a
clause forbidding software which "integrates/includes/aggregates Nmap
into a proprietary executable installer" unless that software itself
conforms to various GPL requirements (this proprietary C|Net
download.com software and the toolbar don't).  We've long known that
malicious parties might try to distribute a trojan Nmap installer, but
we never thought it would be C|Net's Download.com, which is owned by
CBS!  And we never thought Microsoft would be sponsoring this
activity!

It is worth noting that C|Net's exact schemes vary.  Here is a story
about their shenanigans:

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/93504-download-com-wraps-downloads-in-bloatware-lies-about-motivations

It is interesting to compare the trojaned VLC screenshot in that
article with the Nmap one I've attached.  In that case, the user just
clicks "Next step" to have their machine infected.  And they wrote
"SAFE, TRUSTED, AND SPYWARE FREE" in the trojan-VLC title bar.  It is
telling that they decided to remove that statement in their newer
trojan installer.  In fact, if we UPX-unpack the Trojan CNet
executable and send it to VirusTotal.com, it is detected as malware by
Panda, McAfee, F-Secure, etc:

http://bit.ly/cnet-nmap-vt

According to Download.com's own stats, hundreds of people download the
trojan Nmap installer every week!  So the first order of business is
to notify the community so that nobody else falls for this scheme.
Please help spread the word.

Of course the next step is to go after C|Net until they stop doing
this for ALL of the software they distribute.  So far, the most they
have offered is:

  "If you would like to opt out of the Download.com Installer you can
   submit a request to cnet-instal...@cbsinteractive.com. All opt-out
   requests are carefully reviewed on a case-by-case basis."

In other words, "we'll violate your trademarks and copyright and
squandering your goodwill until you tell us to stop, and then we'll
consider your request 'on a case-by-case basis' depending on how much
money we make from infecting your users and how scary your legal
threat is.

F*ck them!  If anyone knows a great copyright attorney in the U.S.,
please send me the details or ask them to get in touch with me.

Also, shame on Microsoft for paying C|Net to trojan open source
software!

Cheers,
Fyodor

- End forwarded message -

Re: Global BGP and Google

[Richard Barnes]

See also this:
https://labs.ripe.net/Members/denis/geolocation-prototype-for-ripe-database

Speak up if you want something similar in the ARIN or LACNIC regions.

--Richard

On Dec 5, 2011 5:19 PM, "Andy Warner"  wrote:

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:41 AM, Victor Esposito
 wrote:
> Has anyone had a...
Maintaining IP-Geolocation mappings in inherently hard so they're not
perfect. You'll probably need to update multiple IP Geolocation
providers, but you can provide corrections to Google using this form:

http://www.google.com/support/websearch/bin/request.py?contact_type=ip

--
Andy

Re: 128.0.0.0/16 configured as martians in some routers

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Jack Bates  said:
> On 12/5/2011 1:44 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> >Once upon a time, Alex Le Heux  said:
> >>Dear Colleagues,
> >>
> >>The correct prefix and pingable address list for the Debogonising Project 
> >>is:
> >>
> >>prefix  pinagble address
> >>
> >>128.0.0.0/21128.0.0.1
> >>128.0.24.0/24   128.0.24.1
> >>
> >>Our apologies for the oversight.
> >
> >Are these prefixes being announced widely?  I don't see anything for
> >128.0.0.0/16 from my upstreams, nor at many public looking glasses.
> 
> Once I updated junos 10.4R7.5 martian list, I saw them both from level3 
> and qwest, but not from Sprint.

Sorry, I should have said where I looked.  I'm not seeing them from
Sprint or CenturyLink, nor am I seeing them at route-views/looking
glasses from AT&T or TWTC.
-- 
Chris Adams 
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.

Re: 128.0.0.0/16 configured as martians in some routers

[Jack Bates]

On 12/5/2011 1:44 PM, Chris Adams wrote:

Once upon a time, Alex Le Heux  said:

Dear Colleagues,

The correct prefix and pingable address list for the Debogonising Project is:

prefix  pinagble address

128.0.0.0/21128.0.0.1
128.0.24.0/24   128.0.24.1

Our apologies for the oversight.


Are these prefixes being announced widely?  I don't see anything for
128.0.0.0/16 from my upstreams, nor at many public looking glasses.



Once I updated junos 10.4R7.5 martian list, I saw them both from level3 
and qwest, but not from Sprint.



Jack

Re: On Working Remotely

[Jack Bates]

On 12/5/2011 11:00 AM, David Radcliffe wrote:

I know many people who can work as you and we all adjust to our setting.  I
just also know people who gravitate to their distractions and need the wall to
define work.  It's best for me even though I will work as effectively at
midnight as in the middle of the day.

I have to say I am impressed.  Working with a 4 year old and 2 month old
around.  Wow.



Being a forced office worker, I can honestly say that I still get more 
done at home at night than I do during the day at the office. I'm most 
productive when I have scheduled maintenance, as I'm permitted to sleep 
in, which puts me working during my comfortable time frames (I hate 
getting up early).


When I was younger, I did my best work at the applebee's bar. Even had 
my own brass plate on the bar. C++ and tequila worked well together.


For the record, my home schooling son does more work late at night as well.


Jack

Re: Global BGP and Google

[Andy Warner]

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:41 AM, Victor Esposito
 wrote:
> Has anyone had any experience with a Global  ASN, and Google inappropriately 
> associating IP's to the wrong countries?
>
> We have our AS registered in Argentina, with ARIN space under it.  From time 
> to time, Google thinks the IP's are in Argentina, even though they are in the 
> US.  We have this issue elsewhere across the globe as well.
>
> I was pondering multiple ASN's, but I was not sure if there was a better 
> method for dealing with this.
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Victor Esposito

Maintaining IP-Geolocation mappings in inherently hard so they're not
perfect. You'll probably need to update multiple IP Geolocation
providers, but you can provide corrections to Google using this form:

http://www.google.com/support/websearch/bin/request.py?contact_type=ip

--
Andy

Re: 128.0.0.0/16 configured as martians in some routers

[Kyle Duren]

I'm see them from NTT.

-Kyle

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Chris Adams  wrote:

> Once upon a time, Alex Le Heux  said:
> > Dear Colleagues,
> >
> > The correct prefix and pingable address list for the Debogonising
> Project is:
> >
> > prefixpinagble address
> >
> > 128.0.0.0/21  128.0.0.1
> > 128.0.24.0/24 128.0.24.1
> >
> > Our apologies for the oversight.
>
> Are these prefixes being announced widely?  I don't see anything for
> 128.0.0.0/16 from my upstreams, nor at many public looking glasses.
>
> --
> Chris Adams 
> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
> I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
>
>

Re: 128.0.0.0/16 configured as martians in some routers

[Meftah Tayeb]

We do have it from Level3:

C:\Documents and Settings\TAYEB>tracert 128.0.0.1

Détermination de l'itinéraire vers 128.0.0.1 avec un maximum de 30 sauts.

 1 1 ms 3 ms 3 ms  172.28.0.1
 2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms  10.16.0.1
 313 ms15 ms16 ms  41.200.0.1
 432 ms12 ms16 ms  172.17.2.25
 515 ms16 ms16 ms  213.140.58.10
 635 ms40 ms34 ms  212.73.253.65
 739 ms39 ms39 ms  ae-5-6.bar2.Marseille1.Level3.net 
[4.69.151.13]


 852 ms76 ms54 ms  ae-15-15.ebr1.Frankfurt1.Level3.net 
[4.69.143.24

6]
 956 ms56 ms55 ms  ae-81-81.csw3.Frankfurt1.Level3.net 
[4.69.140.10

]
1055 ms55 ms57 ms  ae-82-82.ebr2.Frankfurt1.Level3.net 
[4.69.140.25

]
1158 ms67 ms62 ms  ae-46-46.ebr1.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net 
[4.69.143.1

69]
1255 ms55 ms56 ms  ae-24-24.ebr2.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net 
[4.69.143.1

94]
13   172 ms58 ms57 ms  ae-48-48.ebr1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net 
[4.69.143.20

9]
1458 ms58 ms67 ms  ae-59-114.csw1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net 
[4.69.153.1

98]
1560 ms62 ms62 ms  ae-19-51.sar1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net 
[4.69.139.14

6]
16 *   56 ms58 ms  128.0.0.1

Itinéraire déterminé.

C:\Documents and Settings\TAYEB>

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris Adams" 

To: "Alex Le Heux" 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: 128.0.0.0/16 configured as martians in some routers



Once upon a time, Alex Le Heux  said:

Dear Colleagues,

The correct prefix and pingable address list for the Debogonising Project 
is:


prefix pinagble address

128.0.0.0/21 128.0.0.1
128.0.24.0/24 128.0.24.1

Our apologies for the oversight.


Are these prefixes being announced widely?  I don't see anything for
128.0.0.0/16 from my upstreams, nor at many public looking glasses.

--
Chris Adams 
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.



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Re: On Working Remotely

[bmanning]

the problem w/ working from home is that not everyone appreciates "Those Darned 
Accordians" or
"Insane Clown Posse" or "Donny and Marie Osmand" at 0330 local cranked up to 
11...

Much easier to pull off in a remote, mostly empty office building.

And no one complains about my singing off key.

/bill

Re: 128.0.0.0/16 configured as martians in some routers

[Chris Adams]

Once upon a time, Alex Le Heux  said:
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> The correct prefix and pingable address list for the Debogonising Project is:
> 
> prefixpinagble address
> 
> 128.0.0.0/21  128.0.0.1
> 128.0.24.0/24 128.0.24.1
> 
> Our apologies for the oversight.

Are these prefixes being announced widely?  I don't see anything for
128.0.0.0/16 from my upstreams, nor at many public looking glasses.

-- 
Chris Adams 
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.

Global BGP and Google

[Victor Esposito]

Has anyone had any experience with a Global  ASN, and Google inappropriately 
associating IP's to the wrong countries?
 
We have our AS registered in Argentina, with ARIN space under it.  From time to 
time, Google thinks the IP's are in Argentina, even though they are in the US.  
We have this issue elsewhere across the globe as well.
 
I was pondering multiple ASN's, but I was not sure if there was a better method 
for dealing with this.
 
 
Thanks in advance!

Victor Esposito

High latency/dropped packets on Mitel circuit in LA

[Paul Brown]

I'm having some pretty bad connection issues with one of my remote
offices in LA. I figured it was probably wind-related last week but it's
still going on today. The vendor (Mitel) is saying that they're testing
the circuit as good to the router, but I doubt it because I'm seeing the
same missed pings on both the outside and inside interfaces from here
(Richmond, VA) across the MPLS network.

I know it's possible that it could be the router, but my gut tells me
it's a circuit issue. Does anybody know of anything going on out there?

Thanks,
Paul

Re: 128.0.0.0/16 configured as martians in some routers

[Alex Le Heux]

Dear Colleagues,

The correct prefix and pingable address list for the Debogonising Project is:

prefix  pinagble address

128.0.0.0/21128.0.0.1
128.0.24.0/24   128.0.24.1

Our apologies for the oversight.

Best regards,

Alex Le Heux
Policy Implementation Co-ordinator
RIPE NCC


On Dec 5, 2011, at 16:20, Alex Le Heux wrote:

> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> The RIPE NCC is aware that 128.0.0.0/16 is configured as a martian by default 
> in (some) Juniper OS, even though RFC 5735 and RFC3330 outline that this /16 
> should no longer be reserved as specialised address space.
> 
> All allocations that were already issued have been exchanged and for now we 
> will hold this space in quarantine.
> 
> We urge everyone to change the default behaviour of their Juniper routers:
> 
> set routing-options martians 128.0.0.0/16 orlonger allow
> set routing-options martians 191.255.0.0/16 orlonger allow
> set routing-options martians 223.255.255.0/24 exact allow
> 
> 128.0.0.0/16 has been added to the RIPE NCC's Debogonising Project:
> 
> http://www.ris.ripe.net/debogon/
> 
> To facilitate testing, the following prefixes are being announced:
> 
> prefixpinagble address
> 
> 128.0.0.0/16  128.0.0.1
> 128.0.8.0/21  128.0.8.1
> 128.0.24.0/24 128.0.24.1
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Alex Le Heux
> Policy Implementation Co-ordinator
> RIPE NCC

128.0.0.0/16 configured as martians in some routers

[Alex Le Heux]

Dear Colleagues,

The RIPE NCC is aware that 128.0.0.0/16 is configured as a martian by default 
in (some) Juniper OS, even though RFC 5735 and RFC3330 outline that this /16 
should no longer be reserved as specialised address space.

All allocations that were already issued have been exchanged and for now we 
will hold this space in quarantine.

We urge everyone to change the default behaviour of their Juniper routers:

set routing-options martians 128.0.0.0/16 orlonger allow
set routing-options martians 191.255.0.0/16 orlonger allow
set routing-options martians 223.255.255.0/24 exact allow

128.0.0.0/16 has been added to the RIPE NCC's Debogonising Project:

http://www.ris.ripe.net/debogon/

To facilitate testing, the following prefixes are being announced:

prefix  pinagble address

128.0.0.0/16128.0.0.1
128.0.8.0/21128.0.8.1
128.0.24.0/24   128.0.24.1

Best regards,

Alex Le Heux
Policy Implementation Co-ordinator
RIPE NCC

APRICOT-2012: Call for Papers

[Mark Tinka]

Asia Pacific Regional Internet Conference on Operational Technologies (APRICOT)
21 February - 2 March 2012, New Delhi, India
http://www.apricot2012.net

CALL FOR PAPERS
===

The APRICOT 2012 Programme Committee is now seeking contributions for
Presentations and Tutorials for APRICOT 2012.

We are looking for people and proposals that would:

- Offer a technical tutorial on an appropriate topic; and/or
- Participate in the technical conference sessions as a speaker; and/or
- Convene and chair a Birds of a Feather (BOF) session.

Please submit proposals on-line at:

http://submission.apnic.net/

CONFERENCE MILESTONES
-

Call for Papers Opens:  22 November 2011
First Draft Program Published:  19 December 2011
Final Deadline for Submissions: 10 February 2012
Final Program Published:17 February 2012
Final Slides Received:  25 February 2012

PROGRAM MATERIAL


The APRICOT Programme is organised in three parts, including
workshops, tutorials and the conference. The APNIC Policy SIG and
Annual Members Meeting will be held during the APRICOT conference.

Topics for tutorials and conference would include amongst others
relevant to Internet Operations and Technologies:

- IPv4 / IPv6 Routing and operations
- IPv4 address runout / IPv6 deployment and transition technologies
- Backbone operations
- ISP and Carrier services
- Network security issues (NSP-SEC, DDoS Anti-Spam, Anti-Malware)
- Peering / IXPs
- DNS / DNSSEC
- Internet policy (Security, Regulation, Content Management, Addressing, etc)
- Access and Transport Technologies, including broadband deployment, Cable/DSL, 
wireless, WiMax, metro ethernet, fiber
  network, MPLS
- Content & Service Delivery (Multicast, Voice, Video, "telepresence", Gaming)

CfP SUBMISSION
--

All draft and complete slides must be submitted in PDF format
only.

Draft slides for both tutorials and conference sessions MUST be
provided with CfP submissions otherwise the Programme Committee will
be unable to review the submission. For work in progress, the most
current information available at time of submission is acceptable.

Final slides are to be provided by the specified deadline for
publication on the APRICOT website.

While the majority of speaking slots will be filled by the first
submission deadline, a limited number of slots may be available up to
the final submission deadline for presentations that are exceptionally
timely, important, or of critical operational importance.

Please submit on-line at:

http://submission.apnic.net/

Any questions or concerns should be addressed to the Programme
Committee by e-mail at:

pc-chairs at apricot.net

We look forward to receiving your presentation proposals.

Mark Tinka & Jonny Martin
Co-Chairs, APRICOT Programme Committee
prog...@apricot.net


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APRICOT-2012: Call for Papers

[Mark Tinka]

Asia Pacific Regional Internet Conference on Operational Technologies (APRICOT)
21 February - 2 March 2012, New Delhi, India
http://www.apricot2012.net

CALL FOR PAPERS
===

The APRICOT 2012 Programme Committee is now seeking contributions for
Presentations and Tutorials for APRICOT 2012.

We are looking for people and proposals that would:

- Offer a technical tutorial on an appropriate topic; and/or
- Participate in the technical conference sessions as a speaker; and/or
- Convene and chair a Birds of a Feather (BOF) session.

Please submit proposals on-line at:

http://submission.apnic.net/

CONFERENCE MILESTONES
-

Call for Papers Opens:  22 November 2011
First Draft Program Published:  19 December 2011
Final Deadline for Submissions: 10 February 2012
Final Program Published:17 February 2012
Final Slides Received:  25 February 2012

PROGRAM MATERIAL


The APRICOT Programme is organised in three parts, including
workshops, tutorials and the conference. The APNIC Policy SIG and
Annual Members Meeting will be held during the APRICOT conference.

Topics for tutorials and conference would include amongst others
relevant to Internet Operations and Technologies:

- IPv4 / IPv6 Routing and operations
- IPv4 address runout / IPv6 deployment and transition technologies
- Backbone operations
- ISP and Carrier services
- Network security issues (NSP-SEC, DDoS Anti-Spam, Anti-Malware)
- Peering / IXPs
- DNS / DNSSEC
- Internet policy (Security, Regulation, Content Management, Addressing, etc)
- Access and Transport Technologies, including broadband deployment, Cable/DSL, 
wireless, WiMax, metro ethernet, fiber
  network, MPLS
- Content & Service Delivery (Multicast, Voice, Video, "telepresence", Gaming)

CfP SUBMISSION
--

All draft and complete slides must be submitted in PDF format
only.

Draft slides for both tutorials and conference sessions MUST be
provided with CfP submissions otherwise the Programme Committee will
be unable to review the submission. For work in progress, the most
current information available at time of submission is acceptable.

Final slides are to be provided by the specified deadline for
publication on the APRICOT website.

While the majority of speaking slots will be filled by the first
submission deadline, a limited number of slots may be available up to
the final submission deadline for presentations that are exceptionally
timely, important, or of critical operational importance.

Please submit on-line at:

http://submission.apnic.net/

Any questions or concerns should be addressed to the Programme
Committee by e-mail at:

pc-chairs at apricot.net

We look forward to receiving your presentation proposals.

Mark Tinka & Jonny Martin
Co-Chairs, APRICOT Programme Committee
prog...@apricot.net


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Flapping POS Interface on Frame-relay between a Juniper and Cisco

[Righa Shake]

Hi,

Am having a problem that is buffling.

I recently changed a POS link encapsulation from PPP to Frame-relay.
Since that time the POS interface keeps resetting from time to time.

On my BGP session am receiving cease notifications from my upstream
provider.

The setup is such that we have a cisco on one end and a Juniper on the
other.

interface POS0/0/0
 mtu 4474
 no ip address
 no ip unreachables
 encapsulation frame-relay
 logging event link-status
 crc 32
 pos scramble-atm
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
end

ROUTERshow run int pos0/0/0.101
Building configuration...


!
interface POS0/0/0.101 point-to-point
ip address X.X.X.X 255.255.255.252
frame-relay interface-dlci 101
end

ROUTER#show int pos0/0/0
POS0/0/0 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is SPA-2XOC12-POS
  MTU 4474 bytes, BW 622000 Kbit/sec, DLY 100 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 6/255, rxload 38/255
  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, crc 32, loopback not set
  Keepalive set (10 sec)
  Scramble enabled
  LMI enq sent  81981, LMI stat recvd 77480, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI up
  LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
  LMI DLCI 0  LMI type is ANSI Annex D  frame relay DTE  segmentation
inactive
  FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
  Broadcast queue 0/256, broadcasts sent/dropped 26/0, interface broadcasts
0
  Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1w2d
  Input queue: 0/375/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
  5 minute input rate 94336000 bits/sec, 13151 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 1647 bits/sec, 7049 packets/sec
 12211574207 packets input, 10967607038364 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts (0 IP multicasts)
 6970870 runts, 2179 giants, 0 throttles
  0 parity
 892493293 input errors, 882184781 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored,
3335463 abort
 6379191154 packets output, 1614018181446 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 applique, 4 interface resets
 0 unknown protocol drops
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 0 carrier transitions


Any assistance on this will be greatly appreciated.


Regards,
Righa Shake

Re: On Working Remotely

[David Radcliffe]

I know many people who can work as you and we all adjust to our setting.  I 
just also know people who gravitate to their distractions and need the wall to 
define work.  It's best for me even though I will work as effectively at 
midnight as in the middle of the day.

I have to say I am impressed.  Working with a 4 year old and 2 month old 
around.  Wow.

On Monday, December 05, 2011 10:40:04 AM Jan Schaumann wrote:
> 
> For whatever it's worth:
> 
> I have been working from home for the last 3.5 years.  I live in
> Manhattan in a one-bedroom with a 4 year and now a 2 months old
> daughter, meaning I work on my laptop in the middle of the livingroom
> with all my life around me.
> 
> I context-switch a lot; I put down the laptop to read my daughters a
> story or play for a few minutes, I go shopping, cook etc.  But: when I
> go to visit the office (about once a quarter or so), I wonder how on
> earth my colleagues get any work done.  They are constantly interrupted,
> asked to have coffee, lunch, breakfast, a snack, go for a walk and just
> chew the fat.
> 
> Yes, I work a lot at night and on the weekends.  That is the one thing
> that people who do not work from home are not aware of: you have no more
> distinction between "home" and "office", which usually means that when
> I'm home, I'm working.
> 
> I could see how having a "home office" with a closed door could create
> this impression of "going to the office" and "coming home", but I don't
> find it either desirable nor (in Manhattan) practical.
> 
> -Jan

-- 
David Radcliffe
Network Engineer/Linux Specialist
da...@davidradcliffe.org
www.davidradcliffe.org

Nothing ever gets solved better with panic.
If you do not know the answer, it is probably "42."

Re: On Working Remotely

[David Radcliffe]

Yes, it is easier (I think) if you have the space to dedicate a work room.  My 
game system is in my computer room but I only game twice a week and only with 
my friends.  I have no doubt I might be diagnosed with a little OCD (or 
something) but

Q: Game?
A: It's not Wednesday night.
Q: But you could run the game now?
A: Yes.
Q: But?
A: It's not Wednesday.  I could force myself but the universe would feel odd.

I guess it's really about the mindset.  I suspect I would still work 
effectively in a smaller, non-dedicated workspace.  I have before in hotel 
rooms.  Not at my mother's house.  She doesn't get "Gee, mom, I need to focus 
for a while."

Obviously, there is no one solution for everyone but I hope to find a way (with 
current employer, but most likely will have to change employers) for me to 
work from home.  Part of my goal is actually to find someone who will more 
deeply use my talents.

As you say, you can find yourself rolling out of bed and dropping into work 
without eating or showering.  I have often done this and am quite comfortable 
with it.

On Monday, December 05, 2011 10:35:27 AM Sean Harlow wrote:
> I can not agree with this more.  I have been working from home for two
> years now and unfortunately live in a small apartment where I do not have
> a dedicated space to assign for "work".  My "workstation" is also my
> gaming machine and my servers sit right next to my game consoles.  It's
> impossible to get entirely in to a work mindset when your bed is literally
> two feet from where you sit.  This one's hard to solve when you don't have
> the space, I can certainly say there's a reason I have the most time put
> in to Skyrim out of all of my friends.
> 
> Another thing you might not think about is how much it can interfere with
> anything you consider part of a morning routine.  Where you used to get up
> at 8, shower, eat breakfast, get dressed, etc. before heading in to start
> work at 9 it doesn't take long before you realize you can instead wake up
> at 8:59, put on whatever pants might be within arm's reach, and sit down
> at your chair.  Next thing you know it's 6 PM and you haven't eaten or
> showered yet.  I've started setting an alarm and trying to work out in the
> morning to counter this and it works pretty well, but it took some effort.
> 
> tl;dr version: Working in an office provides structure that you may depend
> on without realizing it.  Be prepared to replicate as much of that
> structure as needed to remain productive and not turn in to a slob.
> --
> Sean Harlow
> s...@seanharlow.info
>

-- 
David Radcliffe
Network Engineer/Linux Specialist
da...@davidradcliffe.org
www.davidradcliffe.org

Nothing ever gets solved better with panic.
If you do not know the answer, it is probably "42."

Re: On Working Remotely

[Bill Blackford]

Reading this thread, is encouraging to me. My whole team are remote
workers and for myself, I've asked to maintain a cube in a nearby POP.
I have small ones at home who don't understand why dad can't be as
available to them as they wish. For me, I can't focus well with these
kind of distractions especially if I'm on a call or can't drop what
I'm doing, but I admire those who can. Also, at this point, I don't
have a dedicated "office" area at home and find myself huddled over a
work bench in the garage next to my server rack. Not the most ergo
setting.

That said, unlike my co-workers, I don't get a home office stipend, I
spend more in gas and my days are longer when I add the commute time
into the mix. Ideally, I would like to transition to working more at
home. I also perceive it's going to take some time for me to change
the paradigm of 9-5, (6-4) and transition to a model where I can work
the same amount of hours and be just as productive by logging in these
hours in non-contiguous chunks. Having the ability to "context-switch"
as Jan has labeled it, I believe is key here. This is a helpful
thread, thanks you all for sharing.

-b


On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Jan Schaumann  wrote:
> David Radcliffe  wrote:
>
>> I do have to say to anyone planning to work from home, make sure you have a
>> proper work space.
>
> For whatever it's worth:
>
> I have been working from home for the last 3.5 years.  I live in
> Manhattan in a one-bedroom with a 4 year and now a 2 months old
> daughter, meaning I work on my laptop in the middle of the livingroom
> with all my life around me.
>
> I context-switch a lot; I put down the laptop to read my daughters a
> story or play for a few minutes, I go shopping, cook etc.  But: when I
> go to visit the office (about once a quarter or so), I wonder how on
> earth my colleagues get any work done.  They are constantly interrupted,
> asked to have coffee, lunch, breakfast, a snack, go for a walk and just
> chew the fat.
>
> Yes, I work a lot at night and on the weekends.  That is the one thing
> that people who do not work from home are not aware of: you have no more
> distinction between "home" and "office", which usually means that when
> I'm home, I'm working.
>
> I could see how having a "home office" with a closed door could create
> this impression of "going to the office" and "coming home", but I don't
> find it either desirable nor (in Manhattan) practical.
>
> -Jan
>



-- 
Bill Blackford
Network Engineer

Logged into reality and abusing my sudo privileges.

Re: On Working Remotely

[Justin Wilson]

I have been working from my home on a regular basis for almost 4 years
now. I visit clients and routinely travel for projects.  However, I work
80% out of my home office.  I have instant messenger for clients who want
to ask a quick question.  Sometimes we just end up chewing the fat, which
is a nice distraction.

I agree with a dedicated workspace as much as possible.  Doesn't have to
be a separate room or whatever.  Just a place set aside where you can keep
work things separate from everything else. Even if you have 2 desks side
by side.  Buddy of mine lives in a small flat and has 2 small desks side
by side.  The second desk is for gaming and other activities.  This way he
can just "walk away" from work and not have to move things out of the way.
 When he returns things are right where they were.

My breaks consist of going downstairs and playing a round of some online
game for 10 minutes or so.  I find myself much more productive as well.
No more hour long commute one way. I can use that hour much more
productive or simply sleep in because I was up late working on a router.

Justin

--
Justin Wilson 
Aol & Yahoo IM: j2sw
http://www.mtin.net/blog ­ xISP News
http://www.twitter.com/j2sw ­ Follow me on Twitter

Re: On Working Remotely

[Jan Schaumann]

David Radcliffe  wrote:
 
> I do have to say to anyone planning to work from home, make sure you have a 
> proper work space.

For whatever it's worth:

I have been working from home for the last 3.5 years.  I live in
Manhattan in a one-bedroom with a 4 year and now a 2 months old
daughter, meaning I work on my laptop in the middle of the livingroom
with all my life around me.

I context-switch a lot; I put down the laptop to read my daughters a
story or play for a few minutes, I go shopping, cook etc.  But: when I
go to visit the office (about once a quarter or so), I wonder how on
earth my colleagues get any work done.  They are constantly interrupted,
asked to have coffee, lunch, breakfast, a snack, go for a walk and just
chew the fat.

Yes, I work a lot at night and on the weekends.  That is the one thing
that people who do not work from home are not aware of: you have no more
distinction between "home" and "office", which usually means that when
I'm home, I'm working.

I could see how having a "home office" with a closed door could create
this impression of "going to the office" and "coming home", but I don't
find it either desirable nor (in Manhattan) practical.

-Jan


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Re: On Working Remotely

[Sean Harlow]

I can not agree with this more.  I have been working from home for two years 
now and unfortunately live in a small apartment where I do not have a dedicated 
space to assign for "work".  My "workstation" is also my gaming machine and my 
servers sit right next to my game consoles.  It's impossible to get entirely in 
to a work mindset when your bed is literally two feet from where you sit.  This 
one's hard to solve when you don't have the space, I can certainly say there's 
a reason I have the most time put in to Skyrim out of all of my friends.

Another thing you might not think about is how much it can interfere with 
anything you consider part of a morning routine.  Where you used to get up at 
8, shower, eat breakfast, get dressed, etc. before heading in to start work at 
9 it doesn't take long before you realize you can instead wake up at 8:59, put 
on whatever pants might be within arm's reach, and sit down at your chair.  
Next thing you know it's 6 PM and you haven't eaten or showered yet.  I've 
started setting an alarm and trying to work out in the morning to counter this 
and it works pretty well, but it took some effort.

tl;dr version: Working in an office provides structure that you may depend on 
without realizing it.  Be prepared to replicate as much of that structure as 
needed to remain productive and not turn in to a slob.
--
Sean Harlow
s...@seanharlow.info

On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:09 AM, David Radcliffe wrote:

> I do have to say to anyone planning to work from home, make sure you have a 
> proper work space.  I have a computer room.  It contains a dozen systems, 
> electronics gear and parts (I used to have time for that hobby), and 
> comfortable and ergonomic work spaces.  There is no TV.  No reason for one 
> because this is the work room.  The mind set should be "I am now in the work 
> room, so I am at work."  Really works for me.

Re: On Working Remotely

[Michael Thomas]

What the heck...

I've been working on a project for the last three years at home and
mostly by myself. It has been one of the more productive times of my
life codingwise precisely because I am at home and can juggle life's
responsibilities as needed all without really having one. When you go
into the office day-in day-out you have artificial bounds of work/life
-- even though we all know they're blurry these days. I don't know...
I really don't relish those bounds all that much anymore because
inspirations hit when they do, not when you happen to be in the
office (like, oh say, after the morning shower).

The downside is not having somebody to bounce ideas off of, even
if it's mostly a soliloquy. I've worked around that by having a weekly
meeting with others working on the project which works ok, but it's
not always adequate. On the other hand given that my project is
related to skiing, the lift conversations are terrifyingly geeky for the
poor souls riding with us :)

MIke

On 12/05/2011 07:09 AM, David Radcliffe wrote:

Same here.  I like isolation just fine and work much more productively and
usually for a longer time at home.  I don't have kids and my wife has learned
when she is home if I say I will be working, don't bother me.

It actually works quite well.  I like socializing but not when my mind is on
work.  I can code very effectively for hours without breaking because I get in
the zone easily at home.

I do have to say to anyone planning to work from home, make sure you have a
proper work space.  I have a computer room.  It contains a dozen systems,
electronics gear and parts (I used to have time for that hobby), and
comfortable and ergonomic work spaces.  There is no TV.  No reason for one
because this is the work room.  The mind set should be "I am now in the work
room, so I am at work."  Really works for me.

On Sunday, December 04, 2011 01:46:51 PM Keegan Holley wrote:

Maybe I have a different personality, but I find it much easier to work
from home (provided home is empty).  I think "networking" from home, which
I do periodically during the week is different from coding from home which
I do on the weekends.  It does take some getting used to.  I find I'm much
more productive from home. (again as long as home is empty)  I spend less
time talking about sports (professional, college and little league) TV, the
opposite sex, hunting... etc. etc.  I also tend to make healthier choices
since the coffee and cigarettes aren't free and no one invites me to order
pizza for lunch when I'm at home.  To each his own though.

2011/12/4 Jay Ashworth


Some more thoughts on telecommuting, from the guy who built Stack
Overflow.

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2010/05/on-working-remotely.html

Cheers,
-- jra
--
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j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think   RFC
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Rover DII
St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647
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[Paul Kelly :: Blacknight]

Hi There,

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The issue seems intermittent but it's at a level that is sufficient enough to  
raise some eyebrows by the head of our customer service team.

Cheers,

Paul

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Re: On Working Remotely

[David Radcliffe]

Same here.  I like isolation just fine and work much more productively and 
usually for a longer time at home.  I don't have kids and my wife has learned 
when she is home if I say I will be working, don't bother me.

It actually works quite well.  I like socializing but not when my mind is on 
work.  I can code very effectively for hours without breaking because I get in 
the zone easily at home.

I do have to say to anyone planning to work from home, make sure you have a 
proper work space.  I have a computer room.  It contains a dozen systems, 
electronics gear and parts (I used to have time for that hobby), and 
comfortable and ergonomic work spaces.  There is no TV.  No reason for one 
because this is the work room.  The mind set should be "I am now in the work 
room, so I am at work."  Really works for me.

On Sunday, December 04, 2011 01:46:51 PM Keegan Holley wrote:
> Maybe I have a different personality, but I find it much easier to work
> from home (provided home is empty).  I think "networking" from home, which
> I do periodically during the week is different from coding from home which
> I do on the weekends.  It does take some getting used to.  I find I'm much
> more productive from home. (again as long as home is empty)  I spend less
> time talking about sports (professional, college and little league) TV, the
> opposite sex, hunting... etc. etc.  I also tend to make healthier choices
> since the coffee and cigarettes aren't free and no one invites me to order
> pizza for lunch when I'm at home.  To each his own though.
> 
> 2011/12/4 Jay Ashworth 
> 
> > Some more thoughts on telecommuting, from the guy who built Stack
> > Overflow.
> > 
> > http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2010/05/on-working-remotely.html
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > -- jra
> > --
> > Jay R. Ashworth  Baylink
> > j...@baylink.com
> > Designer The Things I Think   RFC
> > 2100
> > Ashworth & Associates http://baylink.pitas.com 2000 Land
> > Rover DII
> > St Petersburg FL USA  http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647
> > 1274

-- 
David Radcliffe
Network Engineer/Linux Specialist
da...@davidradcliffe.org
www.davidradcliffe.org

Nothing ever gets solved better with panic.
If you do not know the answer, it is probably "42."

Re: IP addresses are now assets

[Owen DeLong]

Extra and unnecessary characters do not a correct word make.

Owen

On Dec 5, 2011, at 12:27 AM, cdel.firsthand.net wrote:

> The British have been using the correct six character word length for humour 
> ad memoriam. 
> 
> 
> Christian de Larrinaga
> 
> 
> On 4 Dec 2011, at 15:15, Gary Buhrmaster  wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 18:18, David Barak  wrote:
>> 
>>> Should the HAC be expected to manage the transition to HumorV6?
>>> 
>> 
>> I am not that familiar with Humorv6.  Has Hv6 had sufficient
>> operational input, or is it based on a philosophically pure
>> redesign of humor making it theoretically funny, but
>> in practice most of the humor falls flat.  Does it require a
>> redesign of the existing infrastructure (i.e. comedy clubs)
>> in order to get the joke?  And, of course, is the British
>> implementation of HumourV6 compatible the American
>> implementation of HumorV6?
>> 
>> Gary

Re: IP addresses are now assets

[cdel.firsthand.net]

The British have been using the correct six character word length for humour ad 
memoriam. 


Christian de Larrinaga


On 4 Dec 2011, at 15:15, Gary Buhrmaster  wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 18:18, David Barak  wrote:
> 
>> Should the HAC be expected to manage the transition to HumorV6?
>> 
> 
> I am not that familiar with Humorv6.  Has Hv6 had sufficient
> operational input, or is it based on a philosophically pure
> redesign of humor making it theoretically funny, but
> in practice most of the humor falls flat.  Does it require a
> redesign of the existing infrastructure (i.e. comedy clubs)
> in order to get the joke?  And, of course, is the British
> implementation of HumourV6 compatible the American
> implementation of HumorV6?
> 
> Gary