Re: Heads-Up: GoDaddy Broke the Interwebs...

2012-09-12 Thread Naveen Nathan
 we do not know what happened.  we have an apology, not an explanation or
 reasonable post mortem.  all else is conjecturbation.

Agreed. And as Chris and Kyle pointed out, there is no indication
that the problems were present in the BGP DFT, and the issues could've
occured over iBGP. I completely concur with this, and do not preclude
it as an explanation.

But I would just like to put this out there.

In the past, GoDaddy has clashed with the Internet due to their
initial stance on SOPA, which resulted in a noticeable loss of
customers and generated a significant amount of bad press.

Now, there's a lot of conjecture as to what caused their outage.
But the most harm to GoDaddy would be reporting that they had a security
breach or DoS/DDoS attack which would instill fear in their customer base.
The major media outlets had already picked this up and started to report
foul play by Anonymous, denial of service attacks, or whatever.

To save face, it would make the most sense not to mention that a
security breach or DoS/DDoS attack occured. Indicating a security breach
would be immediate concern for any customer. If it was a DoS/DDoS attack,
they're basically admitting that they don't have an infrastructure capable
of withstanding or mitigating such attacks (which competitors such as
Cloudfare do claim). So the best option would be to spread disinformation
if either occured, and offer /generous/ service credit to earn back
customer goodwill and confidence.

This is simply why I remain skeptical. And as I said earlier, it would
be nice to receive more information of what actually happened, if GoDaddy,
or anyone in the know with GoDaddy, would oblige.

- Naveen




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Re:

2012-09-12 Thread Joly MacFie
Isn't that by Engelbert Humperdinck?

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Google / Gmail SSL write errors

2012-09-12 Thread Paul Kelly :: Blacknight
Hi All,

Are any of you (that use Exim as their MTA) having SSL write errors in your 
exim logs when delivering e-mail to Gmail or Google addresses?

it seems limited to Exim as we've got a lot of other MTAs that have no issues. 
it also appears to be specific to emails with attachments...

Anyone aware of changes G have made regarding TLS delivery?

Ta,

Paul

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RE: Google / Gmail SSL write errors

2012-09-12 Thread Harry Hoffman


Re: Google / Gmail SSL write errors

2012-09-12 Thread Tony Finch
Paul Kelly :: Blacknight p...@blacknight.com wrote:

 Are any of you (that use Exim as their MTA) having SSL write errors in
 your exim logs when delivering e-mail to Gmail or Google addresses?

I suggest asking this question on the exim-users mailing list. Phil
Pennock has done a fair amount of work on TLS recently.

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2012-09-12 Thread james jones
I have days like that too!


On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Joly MacFie j...@punkcast.com wrote:

 Isn't that by Engelbert Humperdinck?

 On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:14 AM, flower tailor samba...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  Delete me
 
 


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Re: Google / Gmail SSL write errors

2012-09-12 Thread Robert E. Seastrom

Paul Kelly :: Blacknight p...@blacknight.com writes:

 Are any of you (that use Exim as their MTA) having SSL write errors
 in your exim logs when delivering e-mail to Gmail or Google
 addresses?

Don't see anything from here.  More details when you post to
exim-users couldn't hurt.

root@valhalla [8] # grep 1TBmIa-0004lH-UH mainlog
2012-09-12 08:44:08 1TBmIa-0004lH-UH = r...@seastrom.com U=rs P=local S=549 
id=86vcfjl8br@seastrom.com
2012-09-12 08:44:10 1TBmIa-0004lH-UH = ...@gmail.com R=dnslookup 
T=remote_smtp H=gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c01::1a] 
X=TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128
2012-09-12 08:44:10 1TBmIa-0004lH-UH Completed
root@valhalla [9] # 

-r




Re: above.net issues

2012-09-12 Thread Blair Trosper
I've been seeing it all day from inside AS19108...in direct connection
to a (huge frustration and) disruption of service from my end to
AWS/EC2.

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Joe Williams williams@gmail.com wrote:
 Oops, this was intended for the outages list but I suppose this list works 
 too.



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 On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Joe Williams wrote:

 Anyone experiencing packet loss on abovenet (to/from Ashburn)? We first got 
 a round of packet loss around 8:45 PDT and then again just a few minutes ago.

 Thanks.

 -Joe


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RE: Heads-Up: GoDaddy Broke the Interwebs...

2012-09-12 Thread Drew Weaver
I just wanted to make one quick point.

Cloudflare is not a competitor of GoDaddy in any sense except that they are 
involved in DNS and they both have a web site.

CloudFlare has also been known to give up and dump small to medium sized PPS 
attacks onto the end target without notification and there doesn't seem to be 
any threshold or policy in place for when they do that.

Thanks,
-Drew



-Original Message-
From: Naveen Nathan [mailto:nav...@lastninja.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 2:44 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Heads-Up: GoDaddy Broke the Interwebs...

 we do not know what happened.  we have an apology, not an explanation 
 or reasonable post mortem.  all else is conjecturbation.

Agreed. And as Chris and Kyle pointed out, there is no indication that the 
problems were present in the BGP DFT, and the issues could've occured over 
iBGP. I completely concur with this, and do not preclude it as an explanation.

But I would just like to put this out there.

In the past, GoDaddy has clashed with the Internet due to their initial stance 
on SOPA, which resulted in a noticeable loss of customers and generated a 
significant amount of bad press.

Now, there's a lot of conjecture as to what caused their outage.
But the most harm to GoDaddy would be reporting that they had a security breach 
or DoS/DDoS attack which would instill fear in their customer base.
The major media outlets had already picked this up and started to report foul 
play by Anonymous, denial of service attacks, or whatever.

To save face, it would make the most sense not to mention that a security 
breach or DoS/DDoS attack occured. Indicating a security breach would be 
immediate concern for any customer. If it was a DoS/DDoS attack, they're 
basically admitting that they don't have an infrastructure capable of 
withstanding or mitigating such attacks (which competitors such as Cloudfare do 
claim). So the best option would be to spread disinformation if either occured, 
and offer /generous/ service credit to earn back customer goodwill and 
confidence.

This is simply why I remain skeptical. And as I said earlier, it would be nice 
to receive more information of what actually happened, if GoDaddy, or anyone in 
the know with GoDaddy, would oblige.

- Naveen





Layer2 over Layer3

2012-09-12 Thread Philip Lavine
To all,
 
I am trying to extend a layer2 connection over Layer 3 so I can have redundant 
Layer connectivity between my HQ and colo site. The reason I need this is so I 
can give the appeareance that there is one gateway and that both data centers 
can share the same Layer3 subnet (which I am announcing via BGP to 2 different 
vendors).
 
I have 2 ASR's. Will EoMPLS work or is there another option?
 
Philip


Re: Layer2 over Layer3

2012-09-12 Thread Jeff Tantsura
l2tpv3

Regards,
Jeff

On Sep 12, 2012, at 19:23, Philip Lavine source_ro...@yahoo.com wrote:

 To all,
  
 I am trying to extend a layer2 connection over Layer 3 so I can have 
 redundant Layer connectivity between my HQ and colo site. The reason I need 
 this is so I can give the appeareance that there is one gateway and that 
 both data centers can share the same Layer3 subnet (which I am announcing via 
 BGP to 2 different vendors).
  
 I have 2 ASR's. Will EoMPLS work or is there another option?
  
 Philip



Re: Layer2 over Layer3

2012-09-12 Thread mohamed Osama Saad Abo sree
hello philip,
for ethernet over mpls you can use gre tunnel and run mpls over that
tunnel or you can go directly for l2tpv3 which give you the ability to
run l2vpn over l3 ip routing with no need for mpls.

BR,
Mohamed Abosree

On 9/13/12, Philip Lavine source_ro...@yahoo.com wrote:
 To all,

 I am trying to extend a layer2 connection over Layer 3 so I can have
 redundant Layer connectivity between my HQ and colo site. The reason I need
 this is so I can give the appeareance that there is one gateway and that
 both data centers can share the same Layer3 subnet (which I am announcing
 via BGP to 2 different vendors).

 I have 2 ASR's. Will EoMPLS work or is there another option?

 Philip



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RE: Layer2 over Layer3

2012-09-12 Thread Paul Vinciguerra
ASR supports OTV if you can do multicast over L3.  Although, you may not need 
L2 extensions in the end.

-Original Message-
From: Philip Lavine [mailto:source_ro...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:23 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Layer2 over Layer3 

To all,
 
I am trying to extend a layer2 connection over Layer 3 so I can have redundant 
Layer connectivity between my HQ and colo site. The reason I need this is so I 
can give the appeareance that there is one gateway and that both data centers 
can share the same Layer3 subnet (which I am announcing via BGP to 2 different 
vendors).
 
I have 2 ASR's. Will EoMPLS work or is there another option?
 
Philip



APIs for domain registration and management

2012-09-12 Thread Miles Fidelman

Hi Folks,

I expect folks on NANOG would know:  Are there any domain registrars who 
provide APIs for managing domains and/or DNS records?  It's kind of a 
pain managing large numbers of domains via klunky web interfaces.  It 
sure would be nice to tie registry accounts into equipment inventory 
management systems.


Thanks,

Miles Fidelman

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In practice, there is.    Yogi Berra




Re: APIs for domain registration and management

2012-09-12 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2012-09-13 02:18 , Miles Fidelman wrote:
 Hi Folks,
 
 I expect folks on NANOG would know:  Are there any domain registrars who
 provide APIs for managing domains and/or DNS records?  It's kind of a
 pain managing large numbers of domains via klunky web interfaces.  It
 sure would be nice to tie registry accounts into equipment inventory
 management systems.

Check for a google(DNS EPP) for a lot of info on a standardized
protocols, though typically a registrar will provide a custom interface.

Many of the more established providers do this and it is more or less a
requirement for DNSSEC to work. google(DNSSEC glue) and you get a list
of providers who do DNSSEC and who likely also have an automated
interface for this. As a note GPG + Joker seem to be the popular ones
for this.

Greets,
 Jeroen




Re: APIs for domain registration and management

2012-09-12 Thread Sadiq Saif
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
 Hi Folks,

 I expect folks on NANOG would know:  Are there any domain registrars who
 provide APIs for managing domains and/or DNS records?  It's kind of a pain
 managing large numbers of domains via klunky web interfaces.  It sure would
 be nice to tie registry accounts into equipment inventory management
 systems.

 Thanks,

 Miles Fidelman

 --
 In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
 In practice, there is.    Yogi Berra



Hexonet (http://hexonet.net) has quite an extensive API as far as I
can tell from their API manuals page available via the control panel.
I have personally not used it but have great praises about it from
other people.

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Re: APIs for domain registration and management

2012-09-12 Thread John T. Yocum

On 9/12/2012 5:18 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:

Hi Folks,

I expect folks on NANOG would know:  Are there any domain registrars who
provide APIs for managing domains and/or DNS records?  It's kind of a
pain managing large numbers of domains via klunky web interfaces.  It
sure would be nice to tie registry accounts into equipment inventory
management systems.

Thanks,

Miles Fidelman



OpenSRS and Enom both have APIs.

--John



Re: APIs for domain registration and management - followup

2012-09-12 Thread Miles Fidelman

John T. Yocum wrote:

I expect folks on NANOG would know:  Are there any domain registrars who
provide APIs for managing domains and/or DNS records?  It's kind of a
pain managing large numbers of domains via klunky web interfaces.  It
sure would be nice to tie registry accounts into equipment inventory
management systems.


OpenSRS and Enom both have APIs.

It looks like NetSol does as well, but can't seem to find anything for 
GoDaddy (a shame, we have a lot of domains with them).


Anybody know of a CMDB that integrates with OpenSRS or equivalent?

Thanks again,

Miles

--
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.    Yogi Berra