RE: Switch with high ACL capacity

2018-11-06 Thread Mike Hammett
*nods* The more ways of knocking down the low hanging fruit the better.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Midwest-IX
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- Original Message -
From: Ryan Hamel 
To: Tim Jackson , na...@ics-il.net
Cc: nanog list 
Sent: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 14:04:36 -0600 (CST)
Subject: RE: Switch with high ACL capacity

I would see if you can get your upstream providers to apply rules to a 
dedicated interface upstream (drop NTP, memcache, LDAP, rate limit SSDP), and 
connect that to your switch, which would announce the /32’s or /128’s to pull 
the traffic over. You would of course have to announce the /24 or /48 through 
the carrier that has the filters in place to ensure they get all the traffic. 
After post processing the spoofed traffic, it should leave you with flooding to 
take care of.

--
Ryan Hamel
Network Administrator
ryan.ha...@quadranet.com | +1 (888) 578-2372
QuadraNet Enterprises, LLC. | Dedicated Servers, Colocation, Cloud

From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Tim Jackson
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 11:52 AM
To: na...@ics-il.net
Cc: nanog list 
Subject: Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

Juniper QFX1(including 12) supports ~64k ACL entries + FlowSpec

--
Tim

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 1:49 PM Mike Hammett 
mailto:na...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
The intent is to see if I can construct a poor man's DDOS scrubber. There are 
low cost systems out there for the detection, but they just trigger something 
else to do the work. Obviously there is black hole routing, but I'm looking for 
something with a bit more finesse.

If I need to get a switch anyway, might as well try to take advantage of it for 
other uses.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe 
Brothers WISP

- Original Message -
From: Lotia, Pratik M 
mailto:pratik.lo...@charter.com>>
To: Mike Hammett mailto:na...@ics-il.net>>, 'nanog list' 
mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Sent: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 12:29:15 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

Mike,

Can you shed some light on the use case? Looks like you are confusing ACLs and 
BGP Flowspec. ACLs and Flowspec rules are similar in some ways but they have a 
different use case. ACLs cannot be configured using Flowspec announcements. 
Flowspec can be loosely explained as 'Routing based on L4 rules' (there's a lot 
more to it than just L4). I doubt if a there is a Switch which can hold a large 
number of Flowspec entries.


~Pratik Lotia
“Improvement begins with I.”


On 11/6/18, 10:39, "NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett" 
mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of 
na...@ics-il.net> wrote:

I am looking for recommendations as to a 10G or 40G switch that has the 
ability to hold a large number of entries in ACLs.

Preferred if I can get them there via the BGP flow spec, but some sort of 
API or even just brute force on the console would be good enough.

Used or even end of life is fine.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet 
ExchangeThe Brothers WISP


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RE: Switch with high ACL capacity

2018-11-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Other than it completes the DDoS.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com

- Original Message -
From: Zach Puls 
To: Mike Hammett 
Cc: 'nanog list' 
Sent: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 13:55:22 -0600 (CST)
Subject: RE: Switch with high ACL capacity

Wouldn’t it be more beneficial to just have a low-cost system for detection, 
then trigger an RTBH community advertisement to your upstream(s)?

Zach Puls
Network Engineer | MEF-CECP
KsFiberNet

-Original Message-
From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Mike 
Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 13:47
To: Lotia, Pratik M 
Cc: 'nanog list' 
Subject: Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

The intent is to see if I can construct a poor man's DDOS scrubber. There are 
low cost systems out there for the detection, but they just trigger something 
else to do the work. Obviously there is black hole routing, but I'm looking for 
something with a bit more finesse.

If I need to get a switch anyway, might as well try to take advantage of it for 
other uses.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe 
Brothers WISP

- Original Message -
From: Lotia, Pratik M 
To: Mike Hammett , 'nanog list' 
Sent: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 12:29:15 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

Mike,

Can you shed some light on the use case? Looks like you are confusing ACLs and 
BGP Flowspec. ACLs and Flowspec rules are similar in some ways but they have a 
different use case. ACLs cannot be configured using Flowspec announcements. 
Flowspec can be loosely explained as 'Routing based on L4 rules' (there's a lot 
more to it than just L4). I doubt if a there is a Switch which can hold a large 
number of Flowspec entries.

 
~Pratik Lotia
“Improvement begins with I.”
 

On 11/6/18, 10:39, "NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett"  wrote:

I am looking for recommendations as to a 10G or 40G switch that has the 
ability to hold a large number of entries in ACLs.

Preferred if I can get them there via the BGP flow spec, but some sort of 
API or even just brute force on the console would be good enough.

Used or even end of life is fine.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet 
ExchangeThe Brothers WISP


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RE: Switch with high ACL capacity

2018-11-06 Thread Mike Hammett
If the DDoS exceeds capacity, I simply resort to the RTBH. Until then, if I can 
handle it more delicately, then great. If I can handle it by adjusting routing 
policy (shy of blackholing) or by dropping traffic selectively until then, I 
deliver a better experience.

Eyeball networks can handle DDoSes a bit differently than content guys because 
most of our traffic is on just a handful of ASNs on a few ports.




-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe 
Brothers WISP

- Original Message -
From: Ryan Hamel 
To: Mike Hammett , Lotia, Pratik M 
Cc: 'nanog list' 
Sent: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 13:52:38 -0600 (CST)
Subject: RE: Switch with high ACL capacity

Mike,

Are you sure you have enough inbound capacity to setup such a thing? Do you 
have RTBH setup for the final means of killing the attack?

If you could get another set of circuits to feed this switch from your same 
providers, and they accept more specific announcements, you could use this to 
swing /32's or /128's to said dedicated links so it won't affect your clients 
traffic.

--
Ryan Hamel
Network Administrator
ryan.ha...@quadranet.com | +1 (888) 578-2372
QuadraNet Enterprises, LLC. | Dedicated Servers, Colocation, Cloud


-Original Message-
From: NANOG  On Behalf Of 
Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 11:47 AM
To: Lotia, Pratik M 
Cc: 'nanog list' 
Subject: Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

The intent is to see if I can construct a poor man's DDOS scrubber. There are 
low cost systems out there for the detection, but they just trigger something 
else to do the work. Obviously there is black hole routing, but I'm looking for 
something with a bit more finesse.

If I need to get a switch anyway, might as well try to take advantage of it for 
other uses.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe 
Brothers WISP

- Original Message -
From: Lotia, Pratik M 
To: Mike Hammett , 'nanog list' 
Sent: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 12:29:15 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

Mike,

Can you shed some light on the use case? Looks like you are confusing ACLs and 
BGP Flowspec. ACLs and Flowspec rules are similar in some ways but they have a 
different use case. ACLs cannot be configured using Flowspec announcements. 
Flowspec can be loosely explained as 'Routing based on L4 rules' (there's a lot 
more to it than just L4). I doubt if a there is a Switch which can hold a large 
number of Flowspec entries.

 
~Pratik Lotia
“Improvement begins with I.”
 

On 11/6/18, 10:39, "NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett"  wrote:

I am looking for recommendations as to a 10G or 40G switch that has the 
ability to hold a large number of entries in ACLs.

Preferred if I can get them there via the BGP flow spec, but some sort of 
API or even just brute force on the console would be good enough.

Used or even end of life is fine.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet 
ExchangeThe Brothers WISP


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RE: Switch with high ACL capacity

2018-11-06 Thread Ryan Hamel
I would see if you can get your upstream providers to apply rules to a 
dedicated interface upstream (drop NTP, memcache, LDAP, rate limit SSDP), and 
connect that to your switch, which would announce the /32’s or /128’s to pull 
the traffic over. You would of course have to announce the /24 or /48 through 
the carrier that has the filters in place to ensure they get all the traffic. 
After post processing the spoofed traffic, it should leave you with flooding to 
take care of.

--
Ryan Hamel
Network Administrator
ryan.ha...@quadranet.com | +1 (888) 578-2372
QuadraNet Enterprises, LLC. | Dedicated Servers, Colocation, Cloud

From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Tim Jackson
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 11:52 AM
To: na...@ics-il.net
Cc: nanog list 
Subject: Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

Juniper QFX1(including 12) supports ~64k ACL entries + FlowSpec

--
Tim

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 1:49 PM Mike Hammett 
mailto:na...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
The intent is to see if I can construct a poor man's DDOS scrubber. There are 
low cost systems out there for the detection, but they just trigger something 
else to do the work. Obviously there is black hole routing, but I'm looking for 
something with a bit more finesse.

If I need to get a switch anyway, might as well try to take advantage of it for 
other uses.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe 
Brothers WISP

- Original Message -
From: Lotia, Pratik M 
mailto:pratik.lo...@charter.com>>
To: Mike Hammett mailto:na...@ics-il.net>>, 'nanog list' 
mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Sent: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 12:29:15 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

Mike,

Can you shed some light on the use case? Looks like you are confusing ACLs and 
BGP Flowspec. ACLs and Flowspec rules are similar in some ways but they have a 
different use case. ACLs cannot be configured using Flowspec announcements. 
Flowspec can be loosely explained as 'Routing based on L4 rules' (there's a lot 
more to it than just L4). I doubt if a there is a Switch which can hold a large 
number of Flowspec entries.


~Pratik Lotia
“Improvement begins with I.”


On 11/6/18, 10:39, "NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett" 
mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of 
na...@ics-il.net> wrote:

I am looking for recommendations as to a 10G or 40G switch that has the 
ability to hold a large number of entries in ACLs.

Preferred if I can get them there via the BGP flow spec, but some sort of 
API or even just brute force on the console would be good enough.

Used or even end of life is fine.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet 
ExchangeThe Brothers WISP


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RE: Switch with high ACL capacity

2018-11-06 Thread Ryan Hamel
Mike,

Are you sure you have enough inbound capacity to setup such a thing? Do you 
have RTBH setup for the final means of killing the attack?

If you could get another set of circuits to feed this switch from your same 
providers, and they accept more specific announcements, you could use this to 
swing /32's or /128's to said dedicated links so it won't affect your clients 
traffic.

--
Ryan Hamel
Network Administrator
ryan.ha...@quadranet.com | +1 (888) 578-2372
QuadraNet Enterprises, LLC. | Dedicated Servers, Colocation, Cloud


-Original Message-
From: NANOG  On Behalf Of 
Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 11:47 AM
To: Lotia, Pratik M 
Cc: 'nanog list' 
Subject: Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

The intent is to see if I can construct a poor man's DDOS scrubber. There are 
low cost systems out there for the detection, but they just trigger something 
else to do the work. Obviously there is black hole routing, but I'm looking for 
something with a bit more finesse.

If I need to get a switch anyway, might as well try to take advantage of it for 
other uses.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe 
Brothers WISP

- Original Message -
From: Lotia, Pratik M 
To: Mike Hammett , 'nanog list' 
Sent: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 12:29:15 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

Mike,

Can you shed some light on the use case? Looks like you are confusing ACLs and 
BGP Flowspec. ACLs and Flowspec rules are similar in some ways but they have a 
different use case. ACLs cannot be configured using Flowspec announcements. 
Flowspec can be loosely explained as 'Routing based on L4 rules' (there's a lot 
more to it than just L4). I doubt if a there is a Switch which can hold a large 
number of Flowspec entries.

 
~Pratik Lotia
“Improvement begins with I.”
 

On 11/6/18, 10:39, "NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett"  wrote:

I am looking for recommendations as to a 10G or 40G switch that has the 
ability to hold a large number of entries in ACLs.

Preferred if I can get them there via the BGP flow spec, but some sort of 
API or even just brute force on the console would be good enough.

Used or even end of life is fine.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet 
ExchangeThe Brothers WISP


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Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

2018-11-06 Thread Tim Jackson
Juniper QFX1(including 12) supports ~64k ACL entries + FlowSpec

--
Tim

On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 1:49 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

> The intent is to see if I can construct a poor man's DDOS scrubber. There
> are low cost systems out there for the detection, but they just trigger
> something else to do the work. Obviously there is black hole routing, but
> I'm looking for something with a bit more finesse.
>
> If I need to get a switch anyway, might as well try to take advantage of
> it for other uses.
>
> -Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet
> ExchangeThe Brothers WISP
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Lotia, Pratik M 
> To: Mike Hammett , 'nanog list' 
> Sent: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 12:29:15 -0600 (CST)
> Subject: Re: Switch with high ACL capacity
>
> Mike,
>
> Can you shed some light on the use case? Looks like you are confusing ACLs
> and BGP Flowspec. ACLs and Flowspec rules are similar in some ways but they
> have a different use case. ACLs cannot be configured using Flowspec
> announcements. Flowspec can be loosely explained as 'Routing based on L4
> rules' (there's a lot more to it than just L4). I doubt if a there is a
> Switch which can hold a large number of Flowspec entries.
>
>
> ~Pratik Lotia
> “Improvement begins with I.”
>
>
> On 11/6/18, 10:39, "NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett" <
> nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> I am looking for recommendations as to a 10G or 40G switch that has
> the ability to hold a large number of entries in ACLs.
>
> Preferred if I can get them there via the BGP flow spec, but some sort
> of API or even just brute force on the console would be good enough.
>
> Used or even end of life is fine.
>
> -Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet
> ExchangeThe Brothers WISP
>
>
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Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

2018-11-06 Thread Mike Hammett
The intent is to see if I can construct a poor man's DDOS scrubber. There are 
low cost systems out there for the detection, but they just trigger something 
else to do the work. Obviously there is black hole routing, but I'm looking for 
something with a bit more finesse.

If I need to get a switch anyway, might as well try to take advantage of it for 
other uses.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe 
Brothers WISP

- Original Message -
From: Lotia, Pratik M 
To: Mike Hammett , 'nanog list' 
Sent: Tue, 06 Nov 2018 12:29:15 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

Mike,

Can you shed some light on the use case? Looks like you are confusing ACLs and 
BGP Flowspec. ACLs and Flowspec rules are similar in some ways but they have a 
different use case. ACLs cannot be configured using Flowspec announcements. 
Flowspec can be loosely explained as 'Routing based on L4 rules' (there's a lot 
more to it than just L4). I doubt if a there is a Switch which can hold a large 
number of Flowspec entries.

 
~Pratik Lotia
“Improvement begins with I.”
 

On 11/6/18, 10:39, "NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett"  wrote:

I am looking for recommendations as to a 10G or 40G switch that has the 
ability to hold a large number of entries in ACLs.

Preferred if I can get them there via the BGP flow spec, but some sort of 
API or even just brute force on the console would be good enough.

Used or even end of life is fine.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet 
ExchangeThe Brothers WISP


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Re: Network Atlas : Help wanted

2018-11-06 Thread Mehmet Akcin
We have a mailing list but discussions happen mostly on slack channel.

https://groups.google.com/a/networkatlas.org/forum/m/#!forum/discuss


On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:57 AM Alfie Pates  wrote:

> Looks interesting, I'll have to have a play!
>
> One thing; Slack's a little modern for a lot of us, and perhaps unsuitable
> for people who don't have as much attention to commit - perhaps a mailing
> list would also be appropriate?
>
> ~ a@fdx
>
-- 
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+1-424-298-1903


Re: Network Atlas : Help wanted

2018-11-06 Thread Alfie Pates
Looks interesting, I'll have to have a play!

One thing; Slack's a little modern for a lot of us, and perhaps
unsuitable for people who don't have as much attention to commit -
perhaps a mailing list would also be appropriate?
~ a@fdx


Re: Switch with high ACL capacity

2018-11-06 Thread Lotia, Pratik M
Mike,

Can you shed some light on the use case? Looks like you are confusing ACLs and 
BGP Flowspec. ACLs and Flowspec rules are similar in some ways but they have a 
different use case. ACLs cannot be configured using Flowspec announcements. 
Flowspec can be loosely explained as 'Routing based on L4 rules' (there's a lot 
more to it than just L4). I doubt if a there is a Switch which can hold a large 
number of Flowspec entries.

 
~Pratik Lotia
“Improvement begins with I.”
 

On 11/6/18, 10:39, "NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett"  wrote:

I am looking for recommendations as to a 10G or 40G switch that has the 
ability to hold a large number of entries in ACLs.

Preferred if I can get them there via the BGP flow spec, but some sort of 
API or even just brute force on the console would be good enough.

Used or even end of life is fine.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet 
ExchangeThe Brothers WISP


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Switch with high ACL capacity

2018-11-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I am looking for recommendations as to a 10G or 40G switch that has the ability 
to hold a large number of entries in ACLs.

Preferred if I can get them there via the BGP flow spec, but some sort of API 
or even just brute force on the console would be good enough.

Used or even end of life is fine.

-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe 
Brothers WISP


Re: Network Atlas : Help wanted

2018-11-06 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Hello everyone.

Another exciting update to share, the demo which is 20-25x faster loading
times globally (thank you Cloud) with a lot more features is now reachable
at https://www.networkatlas.org/ - this is the most important upgrade we
have released so far!

What is coming up next? Well another very exciting feature, self service
portal. Are you operator of a fibre network? you can simply put the KMZs
and map will show. This should enable us to give you all an amazing ability
to grow the map to become much bigger than any single person/company can
manage ;)

You are going to love what we have been building for you! Join our slack to
find out more and help us
https://join.slack.com/t/kapany/shared_invite/enQtNDUwOTIzMDEwODM4LWE5NjNmOWRkMmQxYmYzYWU1YmI0ZmEwNWVlODllY2U1MGU5OTVhZDk4YjA1ZmFiN2VhYWI5ZWUyMGQ0YjU0OTc


On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 9:06 AM Mehmet Akcin  wrote:

> There were many requests for screenshots and I wanted to share it with
> everyone here.
>
> thank you everyone for all suggestions and help.
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1JsV7QRaWkzj9W3oEwJe7Qm-vqwXjOdu3
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:44 PM Mehmet Akcin  wrote:
>
>> Hello there,
>>
>> I wanted to give you all an update on Network Atlas
>> http://www.networkatlas.org as we started loading terrestrial links to
>> our system, we have ran into some scale issues but we are working thru this
>> as we speak.
>>
>> We are currently looking for people who can help with providing us KMZs
>> which are publicly available for as many as terrestrial routes possible for
>> us to stress test our newly designed more scalable backend.
>>
>> If you are able to assist please visit our GitHub repository
>> https://github.com/networkatlas/v1/tree/master/Routes and feel free to
>> send me links of the KMZs and I will put them all in this repository for
>> others to easily access and use.
>>
>> We also have a slack channel if you are interested in joining you can
>> click here https://join.slack
>> .com/t/kapany/shared_invite/enQtNDQ1NTkxMzI0NjEyLWUzYWM3YjBjODJmNmYzMjYwZmM4MzFlZjg2MWNjMDUzZGZjMzViNDk0Njc1OTViZmNhMWIxZThiNDBkNWU0YTA
>>
>> if you want to contribute to project in any other way (hosting, software
>> development, etc.. please contact me directly..)
>>
>> thank you everyone and we look forward to making our next update in
>> upcoming weeks.
>>
>> Mehmet
>>
>