Re: XGS-PON/GPON vendor with PoE ONTs

[Benjamin Hatton]

Calix GPR8802x is the only Calix XGSPON capable device that I know of with
POE, but it's a full 1RU business oriented device and not really designed
(or priced) for standard residential CPE.

380W total, up to 60W per port spread across 6x Gigabit ports, and 2x 2.5G
ports

Rest is a 10G WAN SFP+ (for XGSPON SFP), 10G LAN SFP+, and 8 POTS ports.

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 9:07 AM chiel via NANOG  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for a for a vendor that has XGS-PON/GPON ONT's with PoE
> ports (preferable 4).
>
> Adtran and Calix don't seem any model that has PoE.
>
> Zhone (DZS) has one but we don't like the CLI/config, to complex.
>
> Huawei also has PoE models but we prefer not to use them.
>
> Anybody knows any other bigger vendors that have PoE support?
>
> Best regards,
> Chiel
>

Re: Providing geofeed info to Google

[Benjamin Hatton]

I was able to get access without peering with 15169 by getting access to
the ISP portal (isp.google.com) which does have Geofeed processing for my
AS, but I am unsure if you will get access without being an eyeball network.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 3:37 PM Hugo Slabbert  wrote:

> Google folks:
>
> I see historical reference to needing to use the Google Peering Portal (
> http://peering.google.com) if you need to provide Google with geofeed
> info for GeoIP info on network blocks, ref
> https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2015-May/075229.html.
>
> Is that still the case?  Are there any avenues to provide Google with
> geofeed info if you're *not* currently peering with 15169? Or to get access
> to just the geofeed update portion of the Peering Portal?
>
> --
> Hugo Slabbert
>

Looking for Frontier Routing / FW / Server contact

[Benjamin Hatton]

Looking for a contact at Frontier that can help us resolve a routing / FW /
server issue with a single netblock unable to get a response from a
Frontier HTTPS server used for phone provisioning (south.um.frontier.com).
All of our other netblocks have no trouble reaching it.

Please contact off-list if you can help (or know someone who can)

Thanks

*Ben Hatton*
*Network Engineering | Haefele Connect*
d:(607)589-8000 | b...@haefeleconnect.com

* *

Re: Google Geo Location Issues

[Benjamin Hatton]

If they are your subnets, and you have your own AS (and possibly enough
traffic to Google, I'm not sure what exactly their criteria is but we were
able to make an account with ~2Gbps peak and no peering relationships) you
can create an account with the Google ISP Portal (isp.google.com) which has
a self service tool to upload a csv that will update your prefixes in the
Google IP Geolocation database.  Took ~2 weeks after upload for it to be
reflected in live data.

*Ben Hatton*
*Network Engineer | Haefele Connect*
d:(607)589-8000 | b...@haefeleconnect.com

* *


On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 10:21 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> Same here, YoutubeTV Geolocation problem, has one of my subnets in Tulsa
> instead of Chicago.  Ticket open for 8 months.  Every reply was that it was
> 'with engineering' and no ETA.  I just got a notice from them last week
> that they're closing the ticket and sent a survey to fill out to rate the
> support received.  I told them that the issue was still not resolved and
> never heard back from them.
>
> On 6/30/2021 8:55 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Been months since I was told they'd get it fixed.  To be fair they did say
> they weren't sure on how long it would take.  I feel like I've been
> forgotten about.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:18 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> I've discovered that if you *CAN* get a Google ISP account, you can
>> manage it all there.
>>
>> If you can't, well, you're up shit creek without a paddle.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> Midwest-IX
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Jason Kuehl" 
>> *To: *"NANOG" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, June 29, 2021 6:25:06 PM
>> *Subject: *Google Geo Location Issues
>>
>> I'm looking for a contact, email, number, smoke signals for someone at
>> Google I can talk to on geolocation issue. For some reason Google has
>> labeled our IP ranges as Belarus when we're located in the states. If
>> anyone can point me at any contact I would be really happy..
>>
>> .
>>
>> --
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Jason W Kuehl
>> Cell 920-419-8983
>> jason.w.ku...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>

Re: Google IP Geolocation

[Benjamin Hatton]

Just as another viewpoint on this.

We do not peer or have GGC Cache servers, but I put in a request for a
portal account after seeing this thread, and it was approved in less than
24h, so YMMV.

The only thing I can think of that is different, is that we do move enough
traffic for Google to have us flagged as 'Your traffic levels qualify for
Google Peering' (~2.5Gbps) and are an eyeball network.

*Ben Hatton*
*Network Engineer | Haefele Connect*
d:(607)589-8000 | b...@haefeleconnect.com

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On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 9:15 AM Troy Kelly via NANOG 
wrote:

> We've also been denied access to the ISP portal.
>
> When we replied as to why, we were told to not open another ticket. They
> aren't interested in conversation.
>
>
> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>
>
>
>  Original Message 
> On 30 Mar 2021, 6:53 am, Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>
> I've had others at Google specifically say that portal should be used for
> that purpose, so maybe they need to make sure right and left hands know
> what the other is doing.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"Christopher Morrow" 
> *Cc: *nanog@nanog.org
> *Sent: *Monday, March 29, 2021 1:52:48 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Google IP Geolocation
>
> https://isp.google.com
>
> I signed up for an account there and they said:
>
> "Currently, the Google ISP portal is designed for our partners of GGC, PNI
> or IX programs.
>
> The access to portal is granted on request only to our partners."
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 2:08 PM Christopher Morrow <
> morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2021 at 1:59 PM Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Google ISP specifically told me they didn't want to do deal with
>>> geolocation on the ISP portal.
>>>
>>>
>> unsure who 'google isp' is here, but ... I think if you point at a
>> properly formed geo-location data file it'll get eaten and produce proper
>> results for you.
>> you do have to add that in your isp portal:
>>tri-pipe-thingy -> configuration -> IP geolocation
>> and /register feed/ button on that page.
>>
>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 3:28 PM Christopher Morrow <
>>> morrowc.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 As a note, on the ISP portal there's a place to put a link to your
 RFC8805 format geolocation feed...
 these are scraped out 'regularly' and help keep things oriented better
 for folks.

 the ietf noc folk use this method to tell google (and other folk who
 scrape out our data) where meetings are before the meetings get there:
   https://noc.ietf.org/geo/google.csv

 -chris
 volunteer noc persona

 On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 6:43 PM Michael K. Spears 
 wrote:

> Awesome, I think I’ve figured out the Google ISP portal signup, but it
> definitely seems semi-complicated in a way, notably finding the link…
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Michael K. Spears
>
> 727.656.3347
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Hammett 
> *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2021 6:30 PM
> *To:* Michael K. Spears 
> *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org
> *Subject:* Re: Google IP Geolocation
>
>
>
> We're working on a video to show people how to sign up for the ISP
> portal and get to that part of the portal once signed up. We'll drop a 
> link
> to it near the Google section of our geolocation page.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> Midwest-IX
> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Michael K. Spears" 
> *To: *nanog@nanog.org
> *Sent: *Friday, March 26, 2021 5:10:23 PM
> *Subject: *Google IP Geolocation
>
> Anyone have a good contact at Google who can help with IP geolocation?
> I have a /24 where anything related to Google is in the wrong language.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Michael K. Spears
>
>
>

>

Re: Waves between Buffalo and Manhattan

[Benjamin Hatton]

The regional players in the area that may have something that would bypass
Albany would be Firstlight (Formerly Finger Lakes Technology Group) and
Uniti.

Firstlight has more fiber in the area, and would be my choice over Uniti, I
have services with both.


Contact me off list if you want an introduction to a sales guy.


On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 1:00 PM Mehmet Akcin  wrote:

> hi Jason
>
> https://dev.networkatlas.org shows Zayo, Windstream (and Earthlink)
> there.
>
> We are working with Charter , Level3/CL to load their fiber routes , but
> it will be there and you will be able to connect with the sales teams
> directly by clicking on a route. . In addition to that there are other
> small players in this region.
>
> Mehmet
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 9:49 AM Jason Lixfeld 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Does anyone have knowledge of carriers who are able to deliver 10G or
>> 100G waves between Buffalo and Manhattan that *do not* touch Albany?
>>
>> I know Zayo is one.  I’m waiting to hear back from CenturyLink.  I’ve
>> reviewed networkatlas.org, to see if anything pops up there, but
>> otherwise I’m coming up empty.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>

Re: ticketmaster.com 403 Forbidden

[Benjamin Hatton]

No Issues from AS26269 via HE NYC (AS6939)

*Ben Hatton*

Network Engineer

Haefele TV Inc.

d:(607)589-8000

bhat...@htva.net

www.htva.net

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Christian Kildau  wrote:

> 403 forbidden from as12306 via level3.
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Manser, Charles J <
> charles.man...@charter.com> wrote:
>
> > List,
> >
> > It seems that browsing to ticketmaster.com or any of the associated IP
> > addresses results in a 403 Forbidden for our customers today. Is anyone
> > else having this issue?
> >
> > If anyone from Ticketmaster could reach out to me off-list, it would be
> > helpful.
> > Charles Manser | Principal Engineer I, Network Security
> > charles.man...@charter.com
> >
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>

Re: East coast outage

[Benjamin Hatton]

>
> Definitely seeing problems here in Vermont.  Reachability issues to amazon
> and other sites.  Cogent BGP sessions have bounced, but still up.
> Right now things look normal, but it was definitely rocky over the last
> hour.
> -dan


Amazon was definitely on the list of sites with issues.  I threw the switch
over to a different provider so my CSR's wouldn't kill me. If you are
seeing it start to seem more normal, might throw a test prefix back in an
hour or so and see what it is doing.

*Ben Hatton*

Network Engineer

Haefele TV Inc.

d:(607)589-8000

bhat...@htva.net

www.htva.net

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Daniel Brisson <dbris...@uvm.edu> wrote:

> Definitely seeing problems here in Vermont.  Reachability issues to amazon
> and other sites.  Cogent BGP sessions have bounced, but still up.
>
> Right now things look normal, but it was definitely rocky over the last
> hour.
>
> -dan
>
>
>
> Dan Brisson
> Network Engineer
> University of Vermont
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin
> > Hatton
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 9:17 AM
> > To: nanog@nanog.org
> > Subject: East coast outage
> >
> > Is anyone else seeing connectivity issues along the east coast?  Our pipe
> > through HE in NYC is showing loss to things behind most of Level3, and
> Qwest
> > below Washington.
> >
> > *Ben Hatton*
> >
> > Network Engineer
> >
> > Haefele TV Inc.
> >
> > d:(607)589-8000
> >
> > bhat...@htva.net
> >
> > www.htva.net
>

East coast outage

[Benjamin Hatton]

Is anyone else seeing connectivity issues along the east coast?  Our pipe
through HE in NYC is showing loss to things behind most of Level3, and
Qwest below Washington.

*Ben Hatton*

Network Engineer

Haefele TV Inc.

d:(607)589-8000

bhat...@htva.net

www.htva.net

Re: Level 3 voice outage

[Benjamin Hatton]

We just got a notification from one of our upstream Voice providers that
they are seeing problems both inbound and outbound that seems to be Level 3
related

*Ben Hatton*

Network Engineer

Haefele TV Inc.

d:(607)589-8000

bhat...@htva.net

www.htva.net

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Mark Stevens  wrote:

> Is anyone noticing issue with Level 3 voice? I can't even call their 800
> number using one of my other carriers.
>
> Mark
>

Re: NANOG is five days late?

[Benjamin Hatton]

I also am seeing messages from several threads being delayed 3-5 days

*Ben Hatton*

Network Engineer

Haefele TV Inc.

d:(607)589-8000

bhat...@htva.net

www.htva.net

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer 
wrote:

> This message just arrived...
>
> Received: from mail.nanog.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> by mail.nanog.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AA42D47BB;
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>

Re: Connecting rural providers: ethernet to large city or nearby transit

[Benjamin Hatton]

We were in a similar situation, smaller rural (although in our case
private) provider making the choice between continuing to buy transit from
our neighbor (big ISP) whom we compete with in certain towns, or getting
~300 miles of backhaul to NYC and buying transit there.  We came off
significantly ahead (10g protected wave + 10g IP transit for about the same
as 2g from the large ISP) going with backhaul.

It all comes down to who you have going through the area that can give you
backhaul.  If the incumbent ISP is the only game in the area, then they
would be your backhaul provider, as buildout to a rural area would be
prohibitively expensive


-- 

*Ben Hatton*

Network Engineer

Haefele TV Inc.

bhat...@htva.net

www.htva.net

Re: Cable Operator List

[Benjamin Hatton]

The Cable TV List (http://cabletvlist.com/) doesn't get much traffic, but
it does have some quality people on it that can answer most CATV
questions.  It is heavily weighted on the TV side, so most things are
related to transport gear, IRDs, and distribution equipment.  I am unaware
of any DOCSIS specific mailing lists, but if anyone out there does know of
one I would like to know about it as well.

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Daniel Corbe  wrote:

>
> > On Feb 2, 2016, at 8:42 AM, Colton Conor  wrote:
> >
> > Are there any mailing lists out there dedicated for cable/MSO type
> > operators?
> >
>
> I'm curious about this too.
>
> I’m not a cable operator (in that I haven’t successfully registered for a
> cable franchise yet) but I do operate a docsis network and I’ve
> successfully negotiated the treacherous waters of obtaining and providing
> content to my users.
>
> I’m still a bit green behind the ears but I could probably offer some
> measure of assistance if you have a specific question.
>
> -Daniel
>
>


-- 

*Ben Hatton*

Network Engineer

Haefele TV Inc.

bhat...@htva.net

www.htva.net

Re: ISPs/Carriers in LATA 138

[Benjamin Hatton]

I have Fiber / DOCSIS / EPON in some rural areas of LATA 138,  Where
exactly are you looking? feel free to respond off list.



On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:52 PM, kb3ien+na...@databit7.com wrote:


 I'm looking for a solution to provide one-weekend per year access in a
 rural area 20 km outside Binghamton NY, LATA 138


 Can anyone provide any recomendations?

 Robin

 kb3ien