Re: [External] Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT residential

2020-02-21 Thread Ca By
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:22 PM Hunter Fuller  wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:42 PM Jared Mauch  wrote:
> > I can already hear the QUIC WG types blaming the network in abstentia,
> because well, why would an operator want to keep their network functioning?
> :-)
>
> In fairness, it's not actually functioning. For one thing, it's
> passing some traffic at an abysmal rate. ;)
>

Life and engineering are full of trade-offs.


Re: [External] Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT residential

2020-02-21 Thread Hunter Fuller
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:42 PM Jared Mauch  wrote:
> I can already hear the QUIC WG types blaming the network in abstentia, 
> because well, why would an operator want to keep their network functioning? 
> :-)

In fairness, it's not actually functioning. For one thing, it's
passing some traffic at an abysmal rate. ;)


Re: [External] Re: QUIC traffic throttled on AT residential

2020-02-20 Thread Hunter Fuller
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 3:45 PM Jared Mauch  wrote:
> I can think of many legitimate cases, but i think this is where you have 
> internet for everyone and internet for the tech-savvy/business split that 
> becomes interesting.
>
> I’ve generally been willing to pay more for a business class service for 
> support and improved response SLA.  The average user isn’t going to detect 
> that 10% of their UDP has gone missing, nor should they be expected to.

I really hope my constituents don't have to get business class
connections just to get decent performance out of our services, such
as UDP based tunnels. They barely care what a VPN is, much less what
UDP is. And if our VPN software detects that UDP is available, it will
use it, so I suspect it would be (or is being) affected by this.