Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-06 Thread Jay Hennigan

On 12/6/21 10:22, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote:


I’m an American, yet I know full well what SS meant in the 1940s, which is what 
I presume is alluded to here.

I think it is safe to say that WWII is the history of people well beyond just 
Europe.


There are going to be negative connotations to many two-letter 
combinations. Many of these will vary depending on the language of the 
person observing them. Likewise there are going to coexist non-negative 
connotations.


For example, the US Secret Service is also commonly abbreviated SS.

https://abbreviations.woxikon.com/en/ss

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Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-06 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG



> On Dec 5, 2021, at 10:59 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 10:20:16AM -0500,
> Jay Ashworth  wrote 
> a message of 121 lines which said:
> 
>> Oh dear. They actually gave them .SS?
> 
> It's an european reference. For the local people, this 2-letters code
> probably means nothing special, it is not their history.
> 
> (I assume that the there is a discussion with the local government
> before assigning them a code.)

I’m an American, yet I know full well what SS meant in the 1940s, which is what 
I presume is alluded to here.

I think it is safe to say that WWII is the history of people well beyond just 
Europe.

Owen



.bv ccTLD

2021-12-06 Thread Sylvain Baya
Dear NANOGers,
Hope this email finds you in good health.
Please find my comment below, inline...

Le samedi 4 décembre 2021, Jaap Akkerhuis  a écrit :

>
>  > > [...]
>  >
>  > Quite a while ago I met a guy at an ICANN meeting who'd made a deal with
>  > American Samoa to sell .AS domains since AS is the corporate
> abbreviation in
>  > several European countries.  It went nowhere, the Samoans took it back.
>
> Similar ideas where held for MD and TM but didn'y seem to work
> out. Furthermore, an indepent Bougainville mighs change the name
> to something else (as Zimbabwe did).
>


Hi Jaap,
Thanks for your email, brother.
It's, imho, exactly the right compromise to do.

...still available ISO 3166-1 Alpha-2 codes: bc, bk, bp
and: vb

All those names are not yet delegated zones within
the DNS; therefore they are all available to be used
as ccTLD: .bc ? .bk ? .bp ? .vb ?
...bougainvilleans [1] should just pick one to start
the processes of securing both Alpha-2 & ccTLD.
__
[1]: 

Shalom,
--sb.



> jaap
>


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Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-05 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 10:20:16AM -0500,
 Jay Ashworth  wrote 
 a message of 121 lines which said:

> Oh dear. They actually gave them .SS?

It's an european reference. For the local people, this 2-letters code
probably means nothing special, it is not their history.

(I assume that the there is a discussion with the local government
before assigning them a code.)


Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-05 Thread John Levine
It appears that Jay R. Ashworth  said:
>- Original Message -
>> From: "Jaap Akkerhuis" 
>
>> Similar ideas where held for MD and TM but didn'y seem to work
>> out. Furthermore, an indepent Bougainville mighs change the name
>> to something else (as Zimbabwe did).
>
>On reflection, I don't think .inc has played all that well either.

>From ICANN's recent round of new domains:

22793 .llc
114209 .ltd
3924 .inc
23812 .gmbh

The larger number in .ltd and .gmbh and .llc is likely because they
don't check that you are actually incorporated and the price is about $25 or
$50.

For .inc they don't check either but the price is more like $2000.

They're all pretty lame compared to .biz with 1.4 million, or .com with 158 
million.

R's,
John



Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-05 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message -
> From: "Jaap Akkerhuis" 

> Similar ideas where held for MD and TM but didn'y seem to work
> out. Furthermore, an indepent Bougainville mighs change the name
> to something else (as Zimbabwe did).

On reflection, I don't think .inc has played all that well either.

As for the name, though, my understanding was that it's not *presently* 
Bougainville; it's still PNG.  That was the name the prospective government
had chosen to use.  

Clearly I have learned my lesson this week about researching.  :-}

Cheers,
-- jra
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Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Nick Hilliard

Jaap Akkerhuis wrote on 04/12/2021 21:13:

Similar ideas where held for MD and TM but didn'y seem to work
out. Furthermore, an indepent Bougainville mighs change the name
to something else (as Zimbabwe did).


this is not unusual: .tp became one of the shortest-lived cctlds, and 
was dropped in favour of .tl.  Apparently, there are two hard problems 
facing newly-create states: cash invalidation and naming things.


Nick



Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
 "John Levine" writes:

 > It appears that Jay R. Ashworth  said:
 > >Well, sure, but with the copper deposit measured in double-digit billions, 
 > >it seems sane to assume they've got a plan there...
 >
 > It's been 30 years.  We can hope but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 >
 > >Though given .TV's benefits to Tuvalu, and the number of Scandahoovian 
 >
 > You misspelled Dutch.
 >
 > >businesses that are BVs...
 >
 > Quite a while ago I met a guy at an ICANN meeting who'd made a deal with
 > American Samoa to sell .AS domains since AS is the corporate abbreviation in
 > several European countries.  It went nowhere, the Samoans took it back.

Similar ideas where held for MD and TM but didn'y seem to work
out. Furthermore, an indepent Bougainville mighs change the name
to something else (as Zimbabwe did).

jaap


Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Cynthia Revström via NANOG
It does seem like the rest of the story to me.
If the government said no, then that is pretty much it, that is the
end of the story regardless of what reason given. (Assuming that it
was done correctly and that laws regarding it don't change that is)

-Cynthia

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:35 PM Jay R. Ashworth  wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Bjørn Mork" 
>
> > The rest of the story is here:
> > https://www.norid.no/en/aktuelt/plans-to-utilize-bv-shelved-en/
>
> Sadly, that's not really The Rest... Of The Story.  Sounds like the
> government regulator nixed it, giving *no reason at all*.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
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> j...@baylink.com
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Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Cynthia Revström via NANOG
On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:03 PM Carsten Bormann  wrote:
>
> On 2021-12-04, at 16:18, Cynthia Revström via NANOG  wrote:
> >
> > I think pretty much all codes ending in an X is because there were no
> > better ones available. (I am not certain on this part though)
>
> I don’t think the Mexicans would agree :-)

Oh oops, not sure how I forgot about that one, I just thought about
ax, cx, and sx.

> .bx (Benelux) is reserved only, but it is another counter-example.

I am really nitpicking here but I believe BX is one of the cases of
not being a ccTLD but just ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for some other
reason (seemingly for trademark/IP reasons in this case).

-Cynthia


Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread John Levine
It appears that Jay R. Ashworth  said:
>Well, sure, but with the copper deposit measured in double-digit billions, 
>it seems sane to assume they've got a plan there...

It's been 30 years.  We can hope but I wouldn't hold my breath.

>Though given .TV's benefits to Tuvalu, and the number of Scandahoovian 

You misspelled Dutch.

>businesses that are BVs...

Quite a while ago I met a guy at an ICANN meeting who'd made a deal with
American Samoa to sell .AS domains since AS is the corporate abbreviation in
several European countries.  It went nowhere, the Samoans took it back.

R's,
John


Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message -
> From: "Bjørn Mork" 

> The rest of the story is here:
> https://www.norid.no/en/aktuelt/plans-to-utilize-bv-shelved-en/

Sadly, that's not really The Rest... Of The Story.  Sounds like the
government regulator nixed it, giving *no reason at all*.

Cheers,
-- jra
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Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Hank Nussbacher

On 04/12/2021 00:45, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:

My favorite youtuber has just pointed out that Bougainville will separate
formally from Papua New Guinea in 2027, which, surprisingly, is only 5 or 6
years from now.

So I looked up .bv, and of course... it's assigned to Bouvet Island, an
uninhabited island whose political superior says anything that might go in
that TLD will go in .no instead. [Wikipedia]

So, what's the actual status of .bv?  Assigned, or reserved?  And if it
is reserved at the 3166 secretariat level, can they reassign it?

NORID might try to make a case that BV is the common corporate abbreviation
in their political subdivision... but they're not selling those domains now,
so that doesn't seem compelling.

Anyone here got a buddy on the secretariat?  :-)

Cheers,
-- jra


All handling of ccTLDs are handled via the ccNSO of ICANN:
https://ccnso.icann.org/en

For example ccTLD retirement is a multi-year and perhaps multi-decade 
process:

https://ccnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/field-attached/ccpdp3-retirement-vote-report-05aug21-en.pdf
https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=64081623=/64081623/166266006/Final%20Report%20ccPDP3%20Retirement%20-%20June%202021.pdf

Regards,
Hank



Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Bjørn Mork
Jaap Akkerhuis  writes:

> SIDN and NORID once considered to market .BV together:
> 

The rest of the story is here:
https://www.norid.no/en/aktuelt/plans-to-utilize-bv-shelved-en/


Bjørn


Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 2021-12-04, at 16:18, Cynthia Revström via NANOG  wrote:
> 
> I think pretty much all codes ending in an X is because there were no
> better ones available. (I am not certain on this part though)

I don’t think the Mexicans would agree :-)
.bx (Benelux) is reserved only, but it is another counter-example.

Grüße, Carsten



Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message -
> From: "Jaap Akkerhuis" 

> It is no makred as reserved but assigned.

So this sentence in the wikipedia article:

"The domain remains reserved for potential future use. "

speaks from the viewpoint of NORID, not of the MA.  Got it.

Cheers,
-- jra
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Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Jay Ashworth
Oh dear. They actually gave them .SS?

Wow.

On December 4, 2021 10:18:26 AM EST, "Cynthia Revström"  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Not only is the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code assigned but the ccTLD is
>delegated to NORID's nameservers.
>NORID also makes it pretty clear that they are not interested in
>selling the TLD, and I suspect that might very well mirror the
>position of the Norwegian government.
>While something like another country is a different thing to just a
>company wanting to profit from a TLD, it still seems unlikely to me.
>
>Another example: back in 2011 when South Sudan gained independence,
>they got an ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code which was "SS" which could
>understandably have some problems given historical context for that
>letter combination.[1]
>
>So not getting "BV" is a pretty minor thing in comparison to that, IMHO.
>There are many countries/geographical entities that have far from
>perfect ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 codes.
>I think pretty much all codes ending in an X is because there were no
>better ones available. (I am not certain on this part though)
>
>[1]: 
>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sudan-independence-idUSTRE75S4A520110629
>
>-Cynthia
>
>On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 12:17 PM Jaap Akkerhuis  wrote:
>>
>>  "Jay R. Ashworth" writes:
>>
>>  > - Original Message -
>>  > > From: "David Conrad" 
>>  >
>>  > > Jay,
>>  > >
>>  > > On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Ashworth  wrote:
>>  > >> In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that 
>> the domain
>>  > >> is still marked reserved at the Secretariat,
>>  > >
>>  > > Sorry, which secretariat?  As far as I know, the official status of ISO 
>> 3166-1
>>  > > Alpha 2 codes is specified by the ISO-3166 Maintenance Agency and 
>> listed on the
>>  > > ISO website (the “online browsing platform” output for BV being the URL 
>> I
>>  > > provided).
>>  >
>>  > The ISO 3166 secretariat, yes.
>>
>> It is no makred as reserved but assigned.
>>
>> jaap

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Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Cynthia Revström via NANOG
Hi,

Not only is the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code assigned but the ccTLD is
delegated to NORID's nameservers.
NORID also makes it pretty clear that they are not interested in
selling the TLD, and I suspect that might very well mirror the
position of the Norwegian government.
While something like another country is a different thing to just a
company wanting to profit from a TLD, it still seems unlikely to me.

Another example: back in 2011 when South Sudan gained independence,
they got an ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code which was "SS" which could
understandably have some problems given historical context for that
letter combination.[1]

So not getting "BV" is a pretty minor thing in comparison to that, IMHO.
There are many countries/geographical entities that have far from
perfect ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 codes.
I think pretty much all codes ending in an X is because there were no
better ones available. (I am not certain on this part though)

[1]: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sudan-independence-idUSTRE75S4A520110629

-Cynthia

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 12:17 PM Jaap Akkerhuis  wrote:
>
>  "Jay R. Ashworth" writes:
>
>  > - Original Message -
>  > > From: "David Conrad" 
>  >
>  > > Jay,
>  > >
>  > > On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Ashworth  wrote:
>  > >> In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that 
> the domain
>  > >> is still marked reserved at the Secretariat,
>  > >
>  > > Sorry, which secretariat?  As far as I know, the official status of ISO 
> 3166-1
>  > > Alpha 2 codes is specified by the ISO-3166 Maintenance Agency and listed 
> on the
>  > > ISO website (the “online browsing platform” output for BV being the URL I
>  > > provided).
>  >
>  > The ISO 3166 secretariat, yes.
>
> It is no makred as reserved but assigned.
>
> jaap


Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
 "Jay R. Ashworth" writes:

 > - Original Message -
 > > From: "David Conrad" 
 >
 > > Jay,
 > > 
 > > On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Ashworth  wrote:
 > >> In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that the 
 > >> domain
 > >> is still marked reserved at the Secretariat,
 > > 
 > > Sorry, which secretariat?  As far as I know, the official status of ISO 
 > > 3166-1
 > > Alpha 2 codes is specified by the ISO-3166 Maintenance Agency and listed 
 > > on the
 > > ISO website (the “online browsing platform” output for BV being the URL I
 > > provided).
 >
 > The ISO 3166 secretariat, yes.

It is no makred as reserved but assigned.

jaap


Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
 David Conrad writes:

 > Jay,
 >
 > On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Ashworth  wrote:
 > > In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that =
 > the domain is still marked reserved at the Secretariat,
 >
 > Sorry, which secretariat?

I'm curious about that secretariat as well.


 > As far as I know, the official status of ISO 
 > 3166-1 Alpha 2 codes is specified by the ISO-3166 Maintenance Agency and 
 > listed on the ISO website (the "Conline browsing platform"
 > output for BV being the URL I provided).

For a one page overview, see the brosing table at


Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-04 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
 Sabri Berisha writes:

 > - On Dec 3, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Jay R. Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
 >
 > Hi,
 >
 > > NORID might try to make a case that BV is the common corporate abbreviation
 > > in their political subdivision... 
 >
 > Same for .nl. Most people on this list will be familiar with AMS-IX BV.
 >

SIDN and NORID once considered to market .BV together:


jaap


Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message -
> From: "John Levine" 

> I suspect the Bougainvillians (Bougainvillains?) have a few more urgent topics
> to attend to.  The island's only significant asset is a huge copper mine which
> has been closed since 1989 when the civil war started.  If they can't figure
> out how to both get the mine open again and to deal with the environmental 
> mess
> left by the former operator, they won't have much of a country.

Well, sure, but with the copper deposit measured in double-digit billions, 
it seems sane to assume they've got a plan there...

Though given .TV's benefits to Tuvalu, and the number of Scandahoovian 
businesses that are BVs...

Cheers,
-- jra
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Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread John Levine
According to Jay R. Ashworth :
>- Original Message -
>> From: "John Levine" 
>
>> There's over 300 unassigned codes to choose from.  GV or UV perhaps?
>
>I'm sure *I* would fight for a 3166 code that started with the first letter
>of my country name.  But it's not my country, so my concerns are esthetic,
>and academic (in either send of the word).

I suspect the Bougainvillians (Bougainvillains?) have a few more urgent topics
to attend to.  The island's only significant asset is a huge copper mine which
has been closed since 1989 when the civil war started.  If they can't figure
out how to both get the mine open again and to deal with the environmental mess
left by the former operator, they won't have much of a country.

R's,
John
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Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message -
> From: "John Levine" 

> There's over 300 unassigned codes to choose from.  GV or UV perhaps?

I'm sure *I* would fight for a 3166 code that started with the first letter
of my country name.  But it's not my country, so my concerns are esthetic,
and academic (in either send of the word).

Cheers,
-- jra
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Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Dec 3, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Jay R. Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:

Hi,

> NORID might try to make a case that BV is the common corporate abbreviation
> in their political subdivision... 

Same for .nl. Most people on this list will be familiar with AMS-IX BV.

Thanks,

Sabri


Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message -
> From: "David Conrad" 

> Jay,
> 
> On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Ashworth  wrote:
>> In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that the 
>> domain
>> is still marked reserved at the Secretariat,
> 
> Sorry, which secretariat?  As far as I know, the official status of ISO 3166-1
> Alpha 2 codes is specified by the ISO-3166 Maintenance Agency and listed on 
> the
> ISO website (the “online browsing platform” output for BV being the URL I
> provided).

The ISO 3166 secretariat, yes.

>> which is to say they could not have assigned any domains in it yet, even if 
>> they
>> were inclined to which we are told they are not.
> 
> ISO 3166-1 Alpha-2 codes are used for more than TLDs.

True.

>> In short, I think this is a possibility not an impossibility or I wouldn't 
>> have
>> asked.
> 
> “With enough thrust, pigs fly quite well although the landing can be messy.”
> 
> However, realistically, I suspect you’d need to get the government of Norway 
> to
> actively pursue something like transitioning BV from their auspices to 
> anywhere
> else.  I also suspect the government of Bougainville (which I gather doesn’t
> yet exist) would need to request the change (and get an exception from the 50
> year hold down timer).  I am a bit skeptical...

Oh, there's a *formal* 50 year timer?  Apologies, I'd missed that one.

Yeah, as crappy as it will be for them to not have that 3166 code, you're 
probably
right that it won't happen.

Cheers,
-- jra
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Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread David Conrad
Jay,

On Dec 3, 2021, at 4:46 PM, Jay Ashworth  wrote:
> In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that the 
> domain is still marked reserved at the Secretariat,

Sorry, which secretariat?  As far as I know, the official status of ISO 3166-1 
Alpha 2 codes is specified by the ISO-3166 Maintenance Agency and listed on the 
ISO website (the “online browsing platform” output for BV being the URL I 
provided).

> which is to say they could not have assigned any domains in it yet, even if 
> they were inclined to which we are told they are not.

ISO 3166-1 Alpha-2 codes are used for more than TLDs.

> In short, I think this is a possibility not an impossibility or I wouldn't 
> have asked.

“With enough thrust, pigs fly quite well although the landing can be messy.”

However, realistically, I suspect you’d need to get the government of Norway to 
actively pursue something like transitioning BV from their auspices to anywhere 
else.  I also suspect the government of Bougainville (which I gather doesn’t 
yet exist) would need to request the change (and get an exception from the 50 
year hold down timer).  I am a bit skeptical...

Regards,
-drc



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Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread John Levine
It appears that David Conrad  said:
>> Anyone here got a buddy on the secretariat?  :-)
>
>Even if they did, transitioning codes is a long (99 year? I’ve forgotten) 
>process…

It's only 50, but yeah, it's not changing any time soon.

There's over 300 unassigned codes to choose from.  GV or UV perhaps?

R's,
John


Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread Jay Ashworth
In general I could I understand that, but it is my understanding that the 
domain is still marked reserved at the Secretariat, which is to say they could 
not have assigned any domains in it yet, even if they were inclined to which we 
are told they are not. 

In short, I think this is a possibility not an impossibility or I wouldn't have 
asked.  

-- jra

On December 3, 2021 6:24:22 PM EST, David Conrad  wrote:
>On Dec 3, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Jay R. Ashworth  wrote:
>> So, what's the actual status of .bv?  Assigned, or reserved?
>
>Assigned: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:BV 
>
>
>> Anyone here got a buddy on the secretariat?  :-)
>
>Even if they did, transitioning codes is a long (99 year? I’ve forgotten) 
>process…
>
>Regards,
>-drc
>

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Re: .bv ccTLD

2021-12-03 Thread David Conrad
On Dec 3, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Jay R. Ashworth  wrote:
> So, what's the actual status of .bv?  Assigned, or reserved?

Assigned: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:code:3166:BV 


> Anyone here got a buddy on the secretariat?  :-)

Even if they did, transitioning codes is a long (99 year? I’ve forgotten) 
process…

Regards,
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2021-12-03 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
My favorite youtuber has just pointed out that Bougainville will separate 
formally from Papua New Guinea in 2027, which, surprisingly, is only 5 or 6
years from now.

So I looked up .bv, and of course... it's assigned to Bouvet Island, an 
uninhabited island whose political superior says anything that might go in
that TLD will go in .no instead. [Wikipedia]

So, what's the actual status of .bv?  Assigned, or reserved?  And if it 
is reserved at the 3166 secretariat level, can they reassign it?

NORID might try to make a case that BV is the common corporate abbreviation
in their political subdivision... but they're not selling those domains now,
so that doesn't seem compelling.

Anyone here got a buddy on the secretariat?  :-)

Cheers,
-- jra

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