Re: Convenience or slippery slope... or something else?

2010-09-11 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Reese re...@inkworkswell.com wrote:
 A friend brought this to my attention:

 http://ipq.co/

as an aside:

https://www.nic.co/

note the cert in used for the NIC's website... surely the .CO ccTLD
could use a real cert?

-chris



Re: Convenience or slippery slope... or something else?

2010-09-11 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Christopher Morrow
morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Reese re...@inkworkswell.com wrote:
 A friend brought this to my attention:

 http://ipq.co/

 as an aside:

 https://www.nic.co/

 note the cert in used for the NIC's website... surely the .CO ccTLD
 could use a real cert?

also it's not clear that the ipq.co service is really all that robust
(if that'd matter to anyone) since ipq.co's nameservers:
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;ipq.co.IN  NS

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ipq.co. 900 IN  NS  A.NS.ipq.co.
ipq.co. 900 IN  NS  B.NS.ipq.co.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
A.NS.ipq.co.900 IN  A   212.110.169.105
B.NS.ipq.co.900 IN  A   212.110.169.105

are the same host/ip.



Re: Convenience or slippery slope... or something else?

2010-09-11 Thread N. Yaakov Ziskind
Jon Lewis wrote (on Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 01:44:02PM -0400):
 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, Reese wrote:
 
 A friend brought this to my attention:
 
 http://ipq.co/
 
 He saw it at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1678324
 
 I'm not sure whether to shriek in joy or in pain. Will data from
 this service - if it is a worthy service - propagate properly?
 Play nicely with or break other people's toys? Is it a gimmick?
 
 How's it going to break anything?  I just created one...
 
 tentententen.ipq.co.86400   IN  A   10.10.10.10
 
 so...now I can use tentententen.ipq.co as a name that resolves to 
 10.10.10.10...assuming I trust ipq.co to keep that A record and not delete 
 or change it at some point.  Other than the fact that you can't change 
 it[1], how is this any different (other than being less useful) or scarier 
 than DynDNS?
 
 
 1. EMAIL ADDRESS
 optional, but will allow you to update the record later (once we implement 
 it)

And now FF blocks it as a reported attack page.
 
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Re: Convenience or slippery slope... or something else?

2010-09-11 Thread Scott Howard
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:24 PM, N. Yaakov Ziskind aw...@ziskind.us wrote:

 Jon Lewis wrote (on Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 01:44:02PM -0400):
  On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, Reese wrote:
 
  A friend brought this to my attention:
  
  http://ipq.co/

 And now FF blocks it as a reported attack page.


Bound to happen...

http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://ipq.co/

Over the past 90 days, ipq.co appeared to function as an intermediary for
the infection of 4 site(s) including [...]
(Domains removed so as to not trigger anyones anti-spam software...)

  Scott


Re: Convenience or slippery slope... or something else?

2010-09-10 Thread Jack Carrozzo
It's just a bunch of subdomain A records, what's it matter there are
already thousands of such services in existence.

-Jack Carrozzo

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Reese re...@inkworkswell.com wrote:

 A friend brought this to my attention:

 http://ipq.co/

 He saw it at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1678324

 I'm not sure whether to shriek in joy or in pain. Will data from
 this service - if it is a worthy service - propagate properly?
 Play nicely with or break other people's toys? Is it a gimmick?

 Reese






Re: Convenience or slippery slope... or something else?

2010-09-10 Thread Jon Lewis

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, Reese wrote:


A friend brought this to my attention:

http://ipq.co/

He saw it at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1678324

I'm not sure whether to shriek in joy or in pain. Will data from
this service - if it is a worthy service - propagate properly?
Play nicely with or break other people's toys? Is it a gimmick?


How's it going to break anything?  I just created one...

tentententen.ipq.co.86400   IN  A   10.10.10.10

so...now I can use tentententen.ipq.co as a name that resolves to 
10.10.10.10...assuming I trust ipq.co to keep that A record and not delete 
or change it at some point.  Other than the fact that you can't change 
it[1], how is this any different (other than being less useful) or scarier 
than DynDNS?



1. EMAIL ADDRESS
optional, but will allow you to update the record later (once we implement 
it)


--
 Jon Lewis, MCP :)   |  I route
 Senior Network Engineer |  therefore you are
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Re: Convenience or slippery slope... or something else?

2010-09-10 Thread Leigh Porter


You need to go to qqwqaaqws.ipq.co to find out more...




On 10 Sep 2010, at 18:44, Jon Lewis wrote:

 On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, Reese wrote:
 
 A friend brought this to my attention:
 
 http://ipq.co/
 
 He saw it at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1678324
 
 I'm not sure whether to shriek in joy or in pain. Will data from
 this service - if it is a worthy service - propagate properly?
 Play nicely with or break other people's toys? Is it a gimmick?
 
 How's it going to break anything?  I just created one...
 
 tentententen.ipq.co.86400   IN  A   10.10.10.10
 
 so...now I can use tentententen.ipq.co as a name that resolves to 
 10.10.10.10...assuming I trust ipq.co to keep that A record and not delete or 
 change it at some point.  Other than the fact that you can't change it[1], 
 how is this any different (other than being less useful) or scarier than 
 DynDNS?
 
 
 1. EMAIL ADDRESS
 optional, but will allow you to update the record later (once we implement it)
 
 --
 Jon Lewis, MCP :)   |  I route
 Senior Network Engineer |  therefore you are
 Atlantic Net|
 _ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_