Re: SSL Certificates and ... Providers

2012-12-27 Thread Peter Kristolaitis
Yes, some SSL providers (mostly the overpriced ones) like to license 
their certs on a per-server basis.  If you read the contract language, 
this is how it's written.  However, this is strictly a contractual 
issue, not a technical one.   It's just a way to squeeze more money out 
of people who don't know any better.


Speaking strictly from a technical standpoint, there is nothing at all 
stopping you from using the same cert/keys on as many servers as you'd 
like.  There are SSL providers out there that are reasonable about the 
whole thing and sell you a cert, not a single-device-license.


- Pete


On 12/27/2012 2:47 PM, Blake Pfankuch wrote:

Ok, so this might be a little off topic but I am trying to validate something a 
vendor is telling me and hoping some people here have expertise in this area...

I am working with a SSL certificate provider.  I am trying to purchase a 
quantity of wildcard SSL certificates to cover about 60 FQDN's across 4 
domains.  Vendor is telling me that the Wildcard certificates are licensed per 
physical device it is installed on.  This means instead of using a single 
wildcard across 20 servers, I would have to buy 20 wildcard certs for 20 
servers.

This does not compute in my brain and also in my mind completely defeats the 
purpose of a wildcard cert as I know it.  Has anyone run into this before?

Thanks
Blake





Re: SSL Certificates and ... Providers

2012-12-27 Thread John Adams
Many vendors do this and I highly recommend someone like Digicert that won't 
play the per-machine licensing game with you.

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 27, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Blake Pfankuch bl...@pfankuch.me wrote:

 Ok, so this might be a little off topic but I am trying to validate something 
 a vendor is telling me and hoping some people here have expertise in this 
 area...
 
 I am working with a SSL certificate provider.  I am trying to purchase a 
 quantity of wildcard SSL certificates to cover about 60 FQDN's across 4 
 domains.  Vendor is telling me that the Wildcard certificates are licensed 
 per physical device it is installed on.  This means instead of using a single 
 wildcard across 20 servers, I would have to buy 20 wildcard certs for 20 
 servers.
 
 This does not compute in my brain and also in my mind completely defeats the 
 purpose of a wildcard cert as I know it.  Has anyone run into this before?
 
 Thanks
 Blake



Re: SSL Certificates and ... Providers

2012-12-27 Thread Andrew Latham
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Blake Pfankuch bl...@pfankuch.me wrote:
 Ok, so this might be a little off topic but I am trying to validate something 
 a vendor is telling me and hoping some people here have expertise in this 
 area...

 I am working with a SSL certificate provider.  I am trying to purchase a 
 quantity of wildcard SSL certificates to cover about 60 FQDN's across 4 
 domains.  Vendor is telling me that the Wildcard certificates are licensed 
 per physical device it is installed on.  This means instead of using a single 
 wildcard across 20 servers, I would have to buy 20 wildcard certs for 20 
 servers.

 This does not compute in my brain and also in my mind completely defeats the 
 purpose of a wildcard cert as I know it.  Has anyone run into this before?

 Thanks
 Blake

Blake

Many vendors assign to a single IP address.  When you send your CSR it
is for one server only. Look at some of the public/free CAs to find
some unbiased info.  You could hide everything behind a
proxy/loadbalancer if you want.


-- 
~ Andrew lathama Latham lath...@gmail.com http://lathama.net ~



Re: SSL Certificates and ... Providers

2012-12-27 Thread Larry LaBas
I did and it was vendor dependent which is why I switched a year and a half ago.

TTFN,
Larry

http://www.linkedin.com/in/llabas

On Dec 27, 2012, at 11:47, Blake Pfankuch bl...@pfankuch.me wrote:

 Ok, so this might be a little off topic but I am trying to validate something 
 a vendor is telling me and hoping some people here have expertise in this 
 area...
 
 I am working with a SSL certificate provider.  I am trying to purchase a 
 quantity of wildcard SSL certificates to cover about 60 FQDN's across 4 
 domains.  Vendor is telling me that the Wildcard certificates are licensed 
 per physical device it is installed on.  This means instead of using a single 
 wildcard across 20 servers, I would have to buy 20 wildcard certs for 20 
 servers.
 
 This does not compute in my brain and also in my mind completely defeats the 
 purpose of a wildcard cert as I know it.  Has anyone run into this before?
 
 Thanks
 Blake



Re: SSL Certificates and ... Providers

2012-12-27 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Blake Pfankuch bl...@pfankuch.me wrote:
 Vendor is telling me that the Wildcard certificates are licensed
 per physical device it is installed on.

If you stay at a $200 hotel, you pay an extra $10 for Internet access.
If you stay at a $40 motel, Internet is included. Same difference.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


-- 
William D. Herrin  her...@dirtside.com  b...@herrin.us
3005 Crane Dr. .. Web: http://bill.herrin.us/
Falls Church, VA 22042-3004



RE: SSL Certificates and ... Providers

2012-12-27 Thread Blake Pfankuch
Thanks everyone for the quick responses.  Our stuff is currently through 
Verisign because of the reliability of the name and the nature of the 
industry.  Any suggestions for who I should look at to replace them with?  I 
know I will be saving money, but looking to keep the name reliability as well.  
Thawte and GeoTrust have the same per server model, and looking to get away 
from that.

Thanks!
Blake

-Original Message-
From: Blake Pfankuch [mailto:bl...@pfankuch.me] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 12:48 PM
To: NANOG (nanog@nanog.org)
Subject: SSL Certificates and ... Providers

Ok, so this might be a little off topic but I am trying to validate something a 
vendor is telling me and hoping some people here have expertise in this area...

I am working with a SSL certificate provider.  I am trying to purchase a 
quantity of wildcard SSL certificates to cover about 60 FQDN's across 4 
domains.  Vendor is telling me that the Wildcard certificates are licensed per 
physical device it is installed on.  This means instead of using a single 
wildcard across 20 servers, I would have to buy 20 wildcard certs for 20 
servers.

This does not compute in my brain and also in my mind completely defeats the 
purpose of a wildcard cert as I know it.  Has anyone run into this before?

Thanks
Blake



Re: SSL Certificates and ... Providers

2012-12-27 Thread Ken A
I've found rapidssl wildcards are generally the cheapest (~$120), and
are not limited to a number of servers. In practice, neither are the
other brands.
Ken

On 12/27/2012 1:47 PM, Blake Pfankuch wrote:
 Ok, so this might be a little off topic but I am trying to validate something 
 a vendor is telling me and hoping some people here have expertise in this 
 area...
 
 I am working with a SSL certificate provider.  I am trying to purchase a 
 quantity of wildcard SSL certificates to cover about 60 FQDN's across 4 
 domains.  Vendor is telling me that the Wildcard certificates are licensed 
 per physical device it is installed on.  This means instead of using a single 
 wildcard across 20 servers, I would have to buy 20 wildcard certs for 20 
 servers.
 
 This does not compute in my brain and also in my mind completely defeats the 
 purpose of a wildcard cert as I know it.  Has anyone run into this before?
 
 Thanks
 Blake
 
 

-- 
Ken Anderson




Re: SSL Certificates and ... Providers

2012-12-27 Thread Jimmy Hess
On 12/27/12, Blake Pfankuch bl...@pfankuch.me wrote:

It does make no sense, and I would say it is an unusual restriction,
but a CA can put any certificate usage restriction they want in their
policy,  and technically,   they have likely included a right to audit
and issue out a revokation/CRL for any certificates not following
their usage policy:  a common example would be a SSL cert used to
facilitate phishing.Make your X509 vendor take the language out of
the agreement  against  the use on multiple servers,   or buy from one
of the many dozens of other certificate providerswho issues
wildcards and has no such special restriction on certificate usage in
the certificate signing/usage policies.   :)


 Ok, so this might be a little off topic but I am trying to validate
 something a vendor is telling me and hoping some people here have expertise
 in this area...

 I am working with a SSL certificate provider.  I am trying to purchase a
 quantity of wildcard SSL certificates to cover about 60 FQDN's across 4
[snip]

--
-JH



Re: SSL Certificates and ... Providers

2012-12-27 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Blake Pfankuch bl...@pfankuch.me wrote:
 Our stuff is currently through Verisign because of the reliability of the 
 name and the nature of the industry.

verisign sold this business (like 2+ years ago?), maybe it's time to
find someone else with a reliable name? (who hasn't sold the business
out from under you)



Re: SSL Certificates and ... Providers

2012-12-27 Thread Grant Ridder
Yes the Verisign auth stuff is done by Symantic as of 2010.

-Grant

On Thursday, December 27, 2012, Christopher Morrow wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Blake Pfankuch 
 bl...@pfankuch.mejavascript:;
 wrote:
  Our stuff is currently through Verisign because of the reliability of
 the name and the nature of the industry.

 verisign sold this business (like 2+ years ago?), maybe it's time to
 find someone else with a reliable name? (who hasn't sold the business
 out from under you)




Re: SSL Certificates

2012-02-16 Thread John R. Levine

I suppose if you buy a SSL certificate,  you should be looking for
your CA to have insurance to reimburse the cost of the certificate
should that happen,   and an ironclad   refund  clause in the
agreement/contract  under which a SSL cert is issued


These certs cost $9.00.  You're not going to get much of an insurance 
policy at that price.


R's,
John



Re: SSL Certificates

2012-02-16 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:33 AM, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
 I suppose if you buy a SSL certificate,  you should be looking for
 your CA to have insurance to reimburse the cost of the certificate
 should that happen,   and an ironclad   refund  clause in the
 agreement/contract  under which a SSL cert is issued


 These certs cost $9.00.  You're not going to get much of an insurance policy
 at that price.

again, startssl.com - free. why pay? it's (as you say) not actually
buying you anything except random bits anyway... if you can get them
for free, why would you not do that?



Re: SSL Certificates

2012-02-16 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:57:25AM -0600, Jimmy Hess wrote:
 There is a risk that any CA issued SSL certificate signed by _any_ CA
 may be worthless some time in the future, if the CA chosen is later
 found to have issued  sufficient quantities fraudulent certificates,
 and sufficiently failed in their duties.

One thing I'm not clear about is, are there any protocol or
implementation limitations that require only one CA?

I would think I could take my private key and get multiple CA's to
sign it, then present all of those signatures to the client.  Should
one CA be revoked, my certificate would still be signed by one or
more others.

Does this work?  Does anyone do it?

-- 
   Leo Bicknell - bickn...@ufp.org - CCIE 3440
PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/


pgpLtcxw3Tod1.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: SSL Certificates

2012-02-16 Thread John R. Levine

These certs cost $9.00.  You're not going to get much of an insurance policy
at that price.


again, startssl.com - free. why pay? it's (as you say) not actually
buying you anything except random bits anyway... if you can get them
for free, why would you not do that?


The free ones are supposed to be used only for personal sites.

Also, the fact that they tell me to go away and use a different browser 
when I try to sign up using Chrome does not fill me with warm feelings.


Regards,
John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for Dummies,
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly

Re: SSL Certificates

2012-02-16 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2012-02-16 17:13 , Christopher Morrow wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 8:33 AM, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
 I suppose if you buy a SSL certificate,  you should be looking for
 your CA to have insurance to reimburse the cost of the certificate
 should that happen,   and an ironclad   refund  clause in the
 agreement/contract  under which a SSL cert is issued


 These certs cost $9.00.  You're not going to get much of an insurance policy
 at that price.
 
 again, startssl.com - free. why pay? it's (as you say) not actually
 buying you anything except random bits anyway... if you can get them
 for free, why would you not do that?

Because they do not have a wildcard one for 'free', which is useful when
one wants to serve eg example.com but als www.example.com from the same
location along with other variants of the hostname. Except for that, it
is a rather great offer. Though one can of course just serve the
example.com one and force people after they accept to the main site.

I tend to stick CAcert ones on hosts and tell people to either just
accept that single cert and store it for future checks or just install
the CAcert root cert, that covers a lot of hosts in one go, given of
course that one trusts what CAcert is doing, but that goes for anything.

The method that Firefox is using with the unchained certificates save
this unverified cert and as long as it is the same it is great is in
that respect similar to SSH hostkeys, one can verify those offline and
just keep on using them as as long as that cert is the same you are
likely talking to the same host (ssl etc still don't cover compromised
hosts).

In the end, they are just bits, and this whole verification thing at the
verification of owner adds nothing except for an ease-of-use factor for
the non-techy folks on the Internet.

Greets,
 Jeroen



Re: SSL Certificates

2012-02-16 Thread John Levine
In article 20120216162108.ga11...@ussenterprise.ufp.org you write:
-=-=-=-=-=-

In a message written on Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:57:25AM -0600, Jimmy Hess 
wrote:
 There is a risk that any CA issued SSL certificate signed by _any_ CA
 may be worthless some time in the future, if the CA chosen is later
 found to have issued  sufficient quantities fraudulent certificates,
 and sufficiently failed in their duties.

One thing I'm not clear about is, are there any protocol or
implementation limitations that require only one CA?

I've had the same cert signed by multiple CAs, although rarely at the
same time.  Never tried to present both versions in the same session,
though.

R's,
John



Re: SSL Certificates startssl.com

2012-02-16 Thread James Triplett
On (16/02/12 11:13), Christopher Morrow wrote:
 again, startssl.com - free. why pay? it's (as you say) not actually
 buying you anything except random bits anyway... if you can get them
 for free, why would you not do that?
 

They may not charge money, but it's not really free.  You have to
provide them so much personal information, it feels like an
invitation to identity theft.  At the least what they collect would
be valuable information to sell to marketeers.

They demand a valid residential address for the free personal-use certificate;
a business address will not do (and they check).  Our mixed-use building did
not qualify.

Next option is one of their cheap business certificates, but then you must
send scanned images of:
1. The cover of your passport
2. The first pages of the passport
3. The picture of you with your personal detail of your passport
 and
1. Both sides of your drivers license or identity card or
2. Photo ID document issued by a local, state or federal authority.

In order to save a couple bucks, I'm gonna scan all this and send it off
to somewhere in Israel???  Geotrust or Comodo don't put you through this.  
For $10, I'll keep my info, thanks.










Re: SSL Certificates

2012-02-16 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:49 PM, George Herbert
 george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:17 PM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
 The problem with anything related to Verisign at the moment is that

 The possibility of their root certs being compromised is nonzero.

 The possibility of _ANY_  CA's root certs having been compromised is non-zero.
 There's no evidence published to indicate Verisign's CA key has been
 compromised,
 and it's highly unlikely.

 Just as there's no evidence of other CAs'  root certificate keys being
 compromised.

Please recall that this HAS happened to another CA in the last year.


 There may be no problem; they also may be completely worthless.  Until
 there's full disclosure...
 [snip]

 They are not completely worthless until revoked,  or distrusted by web 
 browsers.
...

I think that's highly ass-backwards.

If it's been compromised and the compromise is not yet fully known -
revoked by the CA or distrusted by browsers - we exist in a nether
region where the customers connecting to your servers can be
transparently Man-in-the-Middle attacked.  If someone doing MiiM to
your customers would be a significant problem, then it's incumbent
upon you to not put your head in the sand when there's a
higher-than-normal risk that one CA may have A Problem.

The situation is in fact *worse* than completely worthless.  In that
situation it has an active negative value.

This is complicated by the fact that you don't even need to be a
customer of that CA for that to be a risk.  If browsers trust that CA,
and that CA's keys are loose, then anyone with those can impersonate
anyone else on the net transparently.  But the fix for that revokes
the root cert and all the signed certs for that CA.  Immediately, if
the browser vendors response to the prior incident carries through to
a new one.  Buying new certs or continuing to use certs that have a
noticable risk of immediate revocation seems ... unwise.


Again - I don't know if it's been compromised.  The vendor is not
being forthcoming at that level of detail yet.  They are evidently
still trying to figure out how bad the penetration was.  That is not a
good sign, but does not automatically mean the worst by any means.


-- 
-george william herbert
george.herb...@gmail.com



Re: SSL Certificates

2012-02-15 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen

On Jan 6, 2012, at 6:15, Michael Carey wrote:

 Looking for a recommendation on who to buy affordable and reputable SSL
 certificates from?  Symantec, Thawte, and Comodo are the names that come to
 mind, just wondering if there are others folks use.

Almost everyone are basically just selling an activation with one of the SSL 
certificate authorities.

I usually buy a RapidSSL (Verisign) certificate from 
https://www.sslmatrix.com/ -- they seem to have some of the best prices and the 
rapidssl enrollment process is very efficient (at least for the cheap 
automatically validated products).


Ask

-- 
http://askask.com/


Re: SSL Certificates

2012-02-15 Thread John Levine
Almost everyone are basically just selling an activation with one of the SSL 
certificate authorities.

I usually buy a RapidSSL (Verisign) certificate from 
https://www.sslmatrix.com/ -- they seem to have some of the best
prices and the rapidssl enrollment process is very efficient (at least for the 
cheap automatically validated
products).

I get my RapidSSL and Comodo from these guys.  Prices look about the same:

http://www.cheapssls.com/

If you order a cert for example.com, Comodo's also work for www.example.com, no
extra charge.

R's,
John




Re: SSL Certificates

2012-02-15 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:17 PM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
Almost everyone are basically just selling an activation with one of the 
SSL certificate authorities.

I usually buy a RapidSSL (Verisign) certificate from 
https://www.sslmatrix.com/ -- they seem to have some of the best
prices and the rapidssl enrollment process is very efficient (at least for 
the cheap automatically validated
products).

 I get my RapidSSL and Comodo from these guys.  Prices look about the same:

 http://www.cheapssls.com/

 If you order a cert for example.com, Comodo's also work for www.example.com, 
 no
 extra charge.


The problem with anything related to Verisign at the moment is that
they either don't know or haven't come clean yet how far the hackers
got into their infrastructure over the last few years.  The early
February 2012 announcements were woefully devoid of actual content.

The possibility of their root certs being compromised is nonzero.

There may be no problem; they also may be completely worthless.  Until
there's full disclosure...


-- 
-george william herbert
george.herb...@gmail.com



Re: SSL Certificates

2012-02-15 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:17:00AM -, John Levine wrote:
 Almost everyone are basically just selling an activation with one of the 
 SSL certificate authorities.
 
 I usually buy a RapidSSL (Verisign) certificate from 
 https://www.sslmatrix.com/ -- they seem to have some of the best
 prices and the rapidssl enrollment process is very efficient (at least for 
 the cheap automatically validated
 products).
 
 I get my RapidSSL and Comodo from these guys.  Prices look about the same:
 
 http://www.cheapssls.com/
 
 If you order a cert for example.com, Comodo's also work for www.example.com, 
 no
 extra charge.
 
 R's,
 John
 

Comodo ever get fixed ??

/bill



Re: SSL Certificates

2012-02-15 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:49 PM, George Herbert
george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:17 PM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
 The problem with anything related to Verisign at the moment is that

 The possibility of their root certs being compromised is nonzero.

The possibility of _ANY_  CA's root certs having been compromised is non-zero.
There's no evidence published to indicate Verisign's CA key has been
compromised,
and it's highly unlikely.

Just as there's no evidence of other CAs'  root certificate keys being
compromised.

 There may be no problem; they also may be completely worthless.  Until
 there's full disclosure...
[snip]

They are not completely worthless until revoked,  or distrusted by web browsers.

There is a risk that any CA issued SSL certificate signed by _any_ CA
may be worthless some time in the future, if the CA chosen is later
found to have issued  sufficient quantities fraudulent certificates,
and sufficiently failed in their duties.


I suppose if you buy a SSL certificate,  you should be looking for
your CA to have insurance to reimburse the cost of the certificate
should that happen,   and an ironclad   refund  clause in the
agreement/contract  under which a SSL cert is issued

E.g.  A guarantee such   that the  CA will refund the complete
certification fee,   or pay for the replacement of the SSL certificate
with a  new  valid certificate   issued by another fully trusted CA,
and  compensate for any tangible loss,resulting from the   CA's
signing certificate  being marked as untrusted by major browsers,
revoked,  or  removed from major browsers' trust list,   due to any
failure on the CA's part or compromise of their systems, resulting in
loss of trust.


--
-JH



Re: SSL Certificates

2012-01-09 Thread Henry Yen
verisign, who used to own geotrust (who owns rapidssl) was sold
to symantec last year.  or some similar swapping of chain links.

anyway, for some, the symantec umbrella might be a polarizing factor.

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 09:08:28AM -0600, gra...@g-rock.net wrote:
 We use rapidssl. Seems to be ok across the board. No reports otherwise. 
 
 - Reply message -
 From: Michael Carey mca...@kinber.org
 Date: Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:15 am
 Subject: SSL Certificates
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 
 Looking for a recommendation on who to buy affordable and reputable SSL
 certificates from?  Symantec, Thawte, and Comodo are the names that come to
 mind, just wondering if there are others folks use.

-- 
Henry Yen   Aegis Information Systems, Inc.
Senior Systems Programmer   Hicksville, New York



Re: SSL Certificates

2012-01-09 Thread Henry Yen
On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 10:08:55AM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote:
  From: Michael Carey [mailto:mca...@kinber.org]
  Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 9:15 AM
  To: nanog@nanog.org
  Subject: SSL Certificates
 
  Looking for a recommendation on who to buy affordable and reputable
  SSL certificates from?  Symantec, Thawte, and Comodo are the names
  that come to mind, just wondering if there are others folks use.
 
 startssl.com - free certs that work in apple-mail, chrome, ff, ie,
 tbird, across mac/linux/windows... you can't beat free.
 
 (you do have to update yearly, but it's not painful, and is probably
 worth doing as practice anyway)

i think their free certificates are for personal/individual use only,
and may not be as useful for company/business usage.

-- 
Henry Yen   Aegis Information Systems, Inc.
Senior Systems Programmer   Hicksville, New York



Re: SSL Certificates

2012-01-09 Thread Henry Yen
netsol was bought by web.com. out of the frying pan ... ?

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 09:27:27AM -0500, Josh Baird wrote:
 We typically stick with Network Solutions, and DigiCert for
 SANcertificates.  VeriSign's prices are just insane.

 On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Michael Carey mca...@kinber.org wrote:
  Looking for a recommendation on who to buy affordable and reputable SSL
  certificates from?  Symantec, Thawte, and Comodo are the names that come to
  mind, just wondering if there are others folks use.

-- 
Henry Yen   Aegis Information Systems, Inc.
Senior Systems Programmer   Hicksville, New York



Re: SSL Certificates

2012-01-06 Thread Alexander McMillen
AlphaSSL is pretty solid, priced right too.

--
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Chief Executive Officer
Sliqua Enterprise Hosting, Inc. - AS32740
Serving up scale and service since 2002. Is your mission critical?™
1-877-4-SLIQUA - http://www.sliqua.com - http://www.isyourmissioncritical.com

On Jan 6, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Michael Carey wrote:

 Looking for a recommendation on who to buy affordable and reputable SSL
 certificates from?  Symantec, Thawte, and Comodo are the names that come to
 mind, just wondering if there are others folks use.
 
 Thanks,
 
 -- 
 Michael D. Carey
 KINBER Network Engineer
 mca...@kinber.org
 M: 814.777.5027
 GV: (814) 205-6773 https://www.google.com/voice#phones
 Skype: KINBER.Mike.Carey
 
 KINBER - Keystone Initiative for Network Based Education and Research -
 www.kinber.org
 PennREN - Pennsylvania's Research and Education Network



Re: SSL Certificates

2012-01-06 Thread Josh Baird
We typically stick with Network Solutions, and DigiCert for
SANcertificates.  VeriSign's prices are just insane.
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Michael Carey mca...@kinber.org wrote:
 Looking for a recommendation on who to buy affordable and reputable SSL
 certificates from?  Symantec, Thawte, and Comodo are the names that come to
 mind, just wondering if there are others folks use.

 Thanks,

 --
 Michael D. Carey
 KINBER Network Engineer
 mca...@kinber.org
 M: 814.777.5027
 GV: (814) 205-6773 https://www.google.com/voice#phones
 Skype: KINBER.Mike.Carey

 KINBER - Keystone Initiative for Network Based Education and Research -
 www.kinber.org
 PennREN - Pennsylvania's Research and Education Network



RE: SSL Certificates

2012-01-06 Thread Matthew Huff
I've had good experience with Entrust. One thing to be careful with is some 
mobile devices (especially older Android ones) have limited root certificates. 
Network Solutions and Entrust work, some others, not so much. From my 
experience Android 2.3+ has most of the common root certs, but previous 
versions don't.


I wonder if someone has a list comparing root certificate support across 
platforms?


Matthew Huff | 1 Manhattanville Rd
Director of Operations   | Purchase, NY 10577
OTA Management LLC   | Phone: 914-460-4039
aim: matthewbhuff    | Fax:   914-460-4139


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Carey [mailto:mca...@kinber.org]
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 9:15 AM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: SSL Certificates
 
 Looking for a recommendation on who to buy affordable and reputable SSL
 certificates from?  Symantec, Thawte, and Comodo are the names that
 come to mind, just wondering if there are others folks use.
 
 Thanks,
 
 --
 Michael D. Carey
 KINBER Network Engineer
 mca...@kinber.org
 M: 814.777.5027
 GV: (814) 205-6773 https://www.google.com/voice#phones
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RE: SSL Certificates

2012-01-06 Thread Blake T. Pfankuch
We have been using GoDaddy for quite some time as they offer good deals if you 
call them in and buy in bulk.  Mind you we manage certs for about 50-100 
customers as well.  Haven't had any issues with them not being trusted on 
mobile devices except for old windows mobile 5 and early 6 devices.  

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Huff [mailto:mh...@ox.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 7:32 AM
To: 'Michael Carey'; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: SSL Certificates

I've had good experience with Entrust. One thing to be careful with is some 
mobile devices (especially older Android ones) have limited root certificates. 
Network Solutions and Entrust work, some others, not so much. From my 
experience Android 2.3+ has most of the common root certs, but previous 
versions don't.


I wonder if someone has a list comparing root certificate support across 
platforms?


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 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Carey [mailto:mca...@kinber.org]
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 9:15 AM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: SSL Certificates
 
 Looking for a recommendation on who to buy affordable and reputable 
 SSL certificates from?  Symantec, Thawte, and Comodo are the names 
 that come to mind, just wondering if there are others folks use.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: SSL Certificates

2012-01-06 Thread gra...@g-rock.net
We use rapidssl. Seems to be ok across the board. No reports otherwise. 

Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

- Reply message -
From: Michael Carey mca...@kinber.org
Date: Fri, Jan 6, 2012 8:15 am
Subject: SSL Certificates
To: nanog@nanog.org

Looking for a recommendation on who to buy affordable and reputable SSL
certificates from?  Symantec, Thawte, and Comodo are the names that come to
mind, just wondering if there are others folks use.

Thanks,

-- 
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KINBER Network Engineer
mca...@kinber.org
M: 814.777.5027
GV: (814) 205-6773 https://www.google.com/voice#phones
Skype: KINBER.Mike.Carey

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PennREN - Pennsylvania's Research and Education Network


Re: SSL Certificates

2012-01-06 Thread Christopher Morrow
 From: Michael Carey [mailto:mca...@kinber.org]
 Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 9:15 AM
 To: nanog@nanog.org
 Subject: SSL Certificates

 Looking for a recommendation on who to buy affordable and reputable
 SSL certificates from?  Symantec, Thawte, and Comodo are the names
 that come to mind, just wondering if there are others folks use.

startssl.com - free certs that work in apple-mail, chrome, ff, ie,
tbird, across mac/linux/windows... you can't beat free.

(you do have to update yearly, but it's not painful, and is probably
worth doing as practice anyway)

-chris



Re: SSL Certificates

2012-01-06 Thread Ken A

theSSLstore has good reseller pricing on a variety of certs.
~ $10 domain validated rapidssl certs in about 5 minutes.
More expensive and time consuming certs are available, Verisign, 
Geotrust, Thawte, greenbars, wildcards, etc..

Ken

On 1/6/2012 8:15 AM, Michael Carey wrote:

Looking for a recommendation on who to buy affordable and reputable SSL
certificates from?  Symantec, Thawte, and Comodo are the names that come to
mind, just wondering if there are others folks use.

Thanks,



--
Ken Anderson
Pacific Internet - http://www.pacific.net



Re: SSL Certificates

2012-01-06 Thread Paul Norton

I second The SSL Store (http://www.thesslstore.com/)

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Systems Administrator
Neoverve - www.neoverve.com
Neoverve Blog - http://blog.neoverve.com/


On 1/6/2012 7:31 AM, Ken A wrote:

theSSLstore has good reseller pricing on a variety of certs.
~ $10 domain validated rapidssl certs in about 5 minutes.
More expensive and time consuming certs are available, Verisign, 
Geotrust, Thawte, greenbars, wildcards, etc..

Ken

On 1/6/2012 8:15 AM, Michael Carey wrote:

Looking for a recommendation on who to buy affordable and reputable SSL
certificates from?  Symantec, Thawte, and Comodo are the names that 
come to

mind, just wondering if there are others folks use.

Thanks,