Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-28 Thread Joe Abley

On 28 May 2014, at 3:21, Martin Hannigan hanni...@gmail.com wrote:

 IIRC you can ftp to rs.internic.net (the IANA) and download zones to your
 hearts content. At least until transition, I'd think this one is
 authoritative.
 
 I don't exactly remember where you can pull it from, but I believe they
 offer it in XML too.
 
 [ Paging Joe Abley ]

*twitch*

Half of this thread seems to be talking about the COM/NET zones, not the root 
zone, but since you asked...

ftp://ftp.internic.net/domain/root.zone is a service provided by ICANN.

ftp://rs.internic.net/domain/root.zone is a service provided by Verisign.

I think both services are provided under their respective agreements with NTIA 
(the IANA Functions Contract and the Cooperative Agreement) and hence those 
URLs can be expected to be somewhat stable. (We live in interesting times, but 
I don't sense a desire by anybody to change the IANA Functions as part of the 
management transition currently under discussion). I don't remember the details 
of how the two sites above are provisioned, but I have a feeling that one is 
mirrored from the other.

Right now, from here, B-Root, C-Root, F-Root, G-Root, and K-Root respond 
positively to AXFR requests. Sending AXFR requests to instances of root servers 
is a bit unfriendly, in my opinion, since you're occupying TCP slots on 
nameservers that arguably would be better used for non-AXFR queries using TCP 
transport.

As Mehmet mentioned, xfr.cjr.dns.icann.org and xfr.lax.dns.icann.org are both 
dedicated AXFR servers from which the root zone (and other zones served by 
ICANN's DNS Operations department) can be retrieved. I am not aware of any 
commitment or requirement to provide those services, but I can't imagine the 
good people currently in that ICANN department would make them unavailable 
gratuitously.

Lastly, the root zone is signed with NSEC, which means you can walk the NSEC 
chain and recover the complete zone (see below, thanks Jelte). It occurs to me 
that this is actually a plausible way to prime your resolver with the full 
contents of the root zone, as an alternative to slaving the root zone, for 
people who think this kind of obsessive behaviour is useful. But maybe that's 
just the malarone talking.

I am not aware of anybody providing the contents of the root zone in XML format 
(and I'm not sure what value that would have to anybody). You may have been 
remembering the root zone trust anchor distribution format, as seen at 
http://data.iana.org/root-anchors/root-anchors.xml.


Joe

[walrus:~]% ldns-walk -f . | head -40
.   218447  IN  NS  i.root-servers.net.
.   218447  IN  NS  h.root-servers.net.
.   218447  IN  NS  m.root-servers.net.
.   218447  IN  NS  l.root-servers.net.
.   218447  IN  NS  j.root-servers.net.
.   218447  IN  NS  e.root-servers.net.
.   218447  IN  NS  d.root-servers.net.
.   218447  IN  NS  b.root-servers.net.
.   218447  IN  NS  f.root-servers.net.
.   218447  IN  NS  k.root-servers.net.
.   218447  IN  NS  g.root-servers.net.
.   218447  IN  NS  c.root-servers.net.
.   218447  IN  NS  a.root-servers.net.
.   487056  IN  RRSIG   NS 8 0 518400 2014060300 2014052623 
40926 . 
gsG1xrmc32HKMscG4pEQjgTNg2UOKgXTEZEGjg5lY9X14ADCwNleAwfNXkeAS2cEEJI+Sj8P4gWvKCpgCi7rKSMVPapfelN8huMZHiplWsl0JyaHxkU6WwAa2ciBIayGuY7vsPY2LGudosN4th+5eXnB0gfIJFCuQjhaK3dI5iM=
.   86309   IN  SOA a.root-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com. 
2014052701 1800 900 604800 86400
.   86309   IN  RRSIG   SOA 8 0 86400 2014060300 2014052623 
40926 . 
JZPdfvMZq/+k+ScgnPVp02j6PSYnA5ntR4TGiLHoeeLTWty7OY3ATas48mCxRZja8D/44VKV5COiXb3dNJNRnXtGqI1nuTWwGXmK/J52satKzLilkk/NtHjy1MxT1NQmgnPYFKNP4liE3vr0deTUYCPRkjDwveTCJ/NowB1OyWs=
.   45819   IN  DNSKEY  257 3 8 
AwEAAagAIKlVZrpC6Ia7gEzahOR+9W29euxhJhVVLOyQbSEW0O8gcCjFFVQUTf6v58fLjwBd0YI0EzrAcQqBGCzh/RStIoO8g0NfnfL2MTJRkxoXbfDaUeVPQuYEhg37NZWAJQ9VnMVDxP/VHL496M/QZxkjf5/Efucp2gaDX6RS6CXpoY68LsvPVjR0ZSwzz1apAzvN9dlzEheX7ICJBBtuA6G3LQpzW5hOA2hzCTMjJPJ8LbqF6dsV6DoBQzgul0sGIcGOYl7OyQdXfZ57relSQageu+ipAdTTJ25AsRTAoub8ONGcLmqrAmRLKBP1dfwhYB4N7knNnulqQxA+Uk1ihz0=
 ;{id = 19036 (ksk), size = 2048b}
.   45819   IN  DNSKEY  256 3 8 
AwEAAZvJd8ORk+jmZ41QMYbQ1XCpf60l6YJuHtnxn0VSh5a5vqwEjTST3/PZ4xhUFu2YcTfRNWxs9WTiGZl3MY/UlBIvzpLhKgKnf9Vk8sEU3q0nmOGFgE6jTi/cU95ATU/2dTQovMDv9XyWvrmj8KIG2brj6mF4S8GTae6G2GwbMF5v
 ;{id = 40926 (zsk), size = 1024b}
.   45819   IN  RRSIG   DNSKEY 8 0 172800 20140604235959 2014052100 
19036 . 
H6fUqoXYqDtYeDOZxBxBEXWsQ1APR6+MMboI74uSgdIkcm5B2zBQOwD+lYid1j3JJ1vhzONwk4PP31o1RG24P0iMqhwwaGXtoWLDeH3FSQxuVUdLA3DxIM0c8NdEzgCW36iH8zzcy/uzFwgPvw6/ksbd6Np+nu/bIw38XhGH61fkidahj1lTAUDIMXi4TM7igJ9bZgUtLViXN8sLeD4G+hrPZbydcksvZpVB8XFCvgKrHHMq3Ha7AO6cl2XDrn6/DodibcVBpMK07kL24NEVFre/jeqjiQWCms6GDuGkqRKaUf8Hdwl12rsmptIuDa70qNh3Pz+pbjNXXGuWlkyYdA==
.  

Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-28 Thread Verd, Brad

All,

Verisign performed routine account maintenance on the Verisign TLD Zone File 
Access Program (TLDZ) platform.  This service gives participants FTP access to 
the TLD Zone Files for the .com, .net and .name top-level domains (TLDs). Each 
file contains the active domain names in that particular TLD and is updated 
daily.

Any user without a current contract in place was removed.  All reasonable 
efforts were taken to notify users prior to their access being revoked.  If a 
customer has lost their access to 
rz.verisign-grs.comhttp://rz.verisign-grs.com (TLDZ), they should call into 
Verisign Customer Service @+1-703-925-6999 and they will be instructed on how 
to submit the contract request.  Once the request is processed a new user ID 
for the customer will be added to the platform.

Additional information regarding TLDZ can be view at 
http://www.verisigninc.com/en_US/channel-resources/domain-registry-products/zone-file-information/index.xhtml

Regards,
Brad

G. Bradford Verd
Vice President Operations
bv...@verisign.commailto:bv...@verisign.com
12061 Bluemont Way
Reston, VA 20190
VerisignInc.comhttp://www.verisigninc.com/

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On May 20, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Brandon Applegate 
bran...@burn.netmailto:bran...@burn.net wrote:

Is anyone using this and having failed login for a few days now ?  I’ve been 
mirroring the root zone(s) for years and I just started getting failures in my 
logs.  I emailed an address I found on the Verisign website but so far dead 
air.  If anyone knows of a more pointed email POC that would actually have clue 
about this that would be awesome.

--
Brandon Applegate - CCIE 10273
PGP Key fingerprint:
830B 4802 1DD4 F4F9 63FE  B966 C0A7 189E 9EC0 3A74
SH1-0151.  This is the serial number, of our orbital gun.




Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-27 Thread Blaine Fleming
On 5/20/14, 11:53 PM, John Levine wrote:
 In article 537c1f17.6070...@digital-z.com you write:
 On 5/20/14, 4:21 PM, Brandon Applegate wrote:
 Is anyone using this and having failed login for a few days now ?  I�ve 
 been mirroring the root
 zone(s) for years and I just started getting failures in my logs.  I emailed 
 an address I found on
 the Verisign website but so far dead air.  If anyone knows of a more pointed 
 email POC that would
 actually have clue about this that would be awesome.

 I have been experiencing this problem as well but have not had a chance
 to look into it.  It stopped working some time between May 15th and May
 16th.  If you find out anything, please let me know!
 
 When I had problems like this a while ago, I found their support
 people to be quite responsive.  Try writing them at
 tldz...@verisign-grs.com or call the support number on the web site
 703-925-6999.
 
 If you're not using your password to download the .COM or .NET zones,
 it is my impression that they will eventually turn off your password
 because they think you're not using it.
 
 R's,
 John
 

Just wanted to follow-up on this issue.  I was actively using it every
day to fetch the .COM and .NET TLD zone files.  Sent multiple emails to
tldz...@verisign-grs.com with no response.  Finally reached out to them
via chat and was informed that I needed to execute a new zone file
access agreement because they needed updated information for me.  New
agreement has been submitted so we will see what they say this time.  If
anyone else is still having problems then you probably need to do the same.

--Blaine



Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-27 Thread Martin Hannigan
Hi Doug,

IIRC you can ftp to rs.internic.net (the IANA) and download zones to your
hearts content. At least until transition, I'd think this one is
authoritative.

I don't exactly remember where you can pull it from, but I believe they
offer it in XML too.

[ Paging Joe Abley ]

Best,

-M





On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote:

 The last time I asked them, F-root had a we allow it because it's the
 right thing to do but we don't like it policy. Given that ICANN operates
 an infrastructure purposely built for doing zone transfers, and given that
 they offer more zones than are on the roots, that's the way I recommend
 people go. YMMV.

 Doug



 On 05/20/2014 10:42 PM, Mehmet Akcin wrote:

 F-root also allows you to axfr root-zone ( dig @f.root-servers.net .
 axfr )


 On May 20, 2014, at 10:32 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote:

  Signed PGP part
 On 05/20/2014 02:21 PM, Brandon Applegate wrote:
 | Is anyone using this and having failed login for a few days now ?
 I?ve been mirroring the root zone(s) for years and I just started
 getting failures in my logs.  I emailed an address I found on the
 Verisign website but so far dead air.  If anyone knows of a more pointed
 email POC that would actually have clue about this that would be awesome.

 You can slave the root and more directly from ICANN:

 http://www.dns.icann.org/services/axfr/







Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-27 Thread jamie rishaw
Pretty annoying (esp. to my databases) that com.zone.gz alone is 2.3 GB ... .

On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Blaine Fleming gro...@digital-z.com wrote:
 On 5/20/14, 11:53 PM, John Levine wrote:
 In article 537c1f17.6070...@digital-z.com you write:
 On 5/20/14, 4:21 PM, Brandon Applegate wrote:
 Is anyone using this and having failed login for a few days now ?  I�ve 
 been mirroring the root
 zone(s) for years and I just started getting failures in my logs.  I 
 emailed an address I found on
 the Verisign website but so far dead air.  If anyone knows of a more 
 pointed email POC that would
 actually have clue about this that would be awesome.

 I have been experiencing this problem as well but have not had a chance
 to look into it.  It stopped working some time between May 15th and May
 16th.  If you find out anything, please let me know!

 When I had problems like this a while ago, I found their support
 people to be quite responsive.  Try writing them at
 tldz...@verisign-grs.com or call the support number on the web site
 703-925-6999.

 If you're not using your password to download the .COM or .NET zones,
 it is my impression that they will eventually turn off your password
 because they think you're not using it.

 R's,
 John


 Just wanted to follow-up on this issue.  I was actively using it every
 day to fetch the .COM and .NET TLD zone files.  Sent multiple emails to
 tldz...@verisign-grs.com with no response.  Finally reached out to them
 via chat and was informed that I needed to execute a new zone file
 access agreement because they needed updated information for me.  New
 agreement has been submitted so we will see what they say this time.  If
 anyone else is still having problems then you probably need to do the same.

 --Blaine




-- 
jamie rishaw // .com.arpa@j - reverse it. ish.

...let's consider this world like a family and care about each other...
 -Malala Yousafzai


Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-20 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 20/05/2014 22:21, Brandon Applegate wrote:
 Is anyone using this and having failed login for a few days now ?  I’ve
 been mirroring the root zone(s) for years and I just started getting
 failures in my logs. 

ftp://rs.internic.net/domain/root.zone

Nick



Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-20 Thread jamie
I have access; my last success was today at 12:27am est

Wait; Do you have a userid or are you trying to log in anonymous?  I'm
pretty sure this is a closed system..


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Brandon Applegate bran...@burn.net wrote:

 Is anyone using this and having failed login for a few days now ?  I’ve
 been mirroring the root zone(s) for years and I just started getting
 failures in my logs.  I emailed an address I found on the Verisign website
 but so far dead air.  If anyone knows of a more pointed email POC that
 would actually have clue about this that would be awesome.

 --
 Brandon Applegate - CCIE 10273
 PGP Key fingerprint:
 830B 4802 1DD4 F4F9 63FE  B966 C0A7 189E 9EC0 3A74
 SH1-0151.  This is the serial number, of our orbital gun.




Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-20 Thread Brandon Applegate
On May 20, 2014, at 5:32 PM, jamie 260...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have access; my last success was today at 12:27am est
 
 Wait; Do you have a userid or are you trying to log in anonymous?  I'm pretty 
 sure this is a closed system..
 

I have a username/pass.  Got it by signing the agreement years ago.  I just 
started getting errors in the past few days:

--2014-05-20 17:39:28--  ftp://user:*password*@rz.verisign-grs.com/
   = `/tmp/verisign-root-zones/rz.verisign-grs.com/.listing'
Resolving rz.verisign-grs.com (rz.verisign-grs.com)... 69.58.178.63
Connecting to rz.verisign-grs.com (rz.verisign-grs.com)|69.58.178.63|:21... 
connected.
Logging in as user ... 
Login incorrect.


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Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-20 Thread John Levine
In article 904ce971-b779-4c9e-af8d-8dafcce01...@burn.net you write:
-=-=-=-=-=-

Is anyone using this and having failed login for a few days now ?  I�ve been 
mirroring the root
zone(s) for years and I just started getting failures in my logs.  I emailed 
an address I found on
the Verisign website but so far dead air.  If anyone knows of a more pointed 
email POC that would
actually have clue about this that would be awesome.

I have a password I've been using to FTP .com and .net from
rz.verisign-grs.com, which still works fine as of five minutes ago.  I
can use it to get root.zone.gz as well but it's pretty much the same
as the one at http://www.internic.net/zones give or take what time of
day they dumped it.



Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-20 Thread jamie rishaw
Some output deleted to save spamminess:

}~/ ftp rz.verisign-grs.net
Connected to rz.verisign-grs.net.
220- Welcome to the VeriSign Global Registry Services gTLD Zone
FTP Server 
Name (rz.verisign-grs.net:jamie): [myusername]
331 Please specify the password.
Password:
230 Login successful.
ftp ls
229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||31270|).
150 Here comes the directory listing. [ lots truncated ]
-rw-r--r--1 ftp  ftp  5167 May 20 16:21 arpa.zone.gz
-rw-r--r--1 ftp  ftp  2309652729 May 20 15:31 com.zone.gz
-rw-r--r--1 ftp  ftp  3107 Mar 28 14:46 named.root
-rw-r--r--1 ftp  ftp  317965345 May 20 15:23 net.zone.gz
-rw-r--r--1 ftp  ftp   550 Mar 27 15:49 root-servers.net.zone.gz
-rw-r--r--1 ftp  ftp546199 May 20 15:42 root.zone
-rw-r--r--1 ftp  ftp211133 May 20 15:42 root.zone.gz

I will email the OP a couple of contacts in the AM after I verify it's
alright to give out their info.

-jamie


Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-20 Thread Blaine Fleming
On 5/20/14, 4:21 PM, Brandon Applegate wrote:
 Is anyone using this and having failed login for a few days now ?  I’ve been 
 mirroring the root zone(s) for years and I just started getting failures in 
 my logs.  I emailed an address I found on the Verisign website but so far 
 dead air.  If anyone knows of a more pointed email POC that would actually 
 have clue about this that would be awesome.

I have been experiencing this problem as well but have not had a chance
to look into it.  It stopped working some time between May 15th and May
16th.  If you find out anything, please let me know!

--Blaine Fleming



Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-20 Thread John Levine
In article 537c1f17.6070...@digital-z.com you write:
On 5/20/14, 4:21 PM, Brandon Applegate wrote:
 Is anyone using this and having failed login for a few days now ?  I�ve been 
 mirroring the root
zone(s) for years and I just started getting failures in my logs.  I emailed 
an address I found on
the Verisign website but so far dead air.  If anyone knows of a more pointed 
email POC that would
actually have clue about this that would be awesome.

I have been experiencing this problem as well but have not had a chance
to look into it.  It stopped working some time between May 15th and May
16th.  If you find out anything, please let me know!

When I had problems like this a while ago, I found their support
people to be quite responsive.  Try writing them at
tldz...@verisign-grs.com or call the support number on the web site
703-925-6999.

If you're not using your password to download the .COM or .NET zones,
it is my impression that they will eventually turn off your password
because they think you're not using it.

R's,
John


Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-20 Thread Doug Barton

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On 05/20/2014 02:21 PM, Brandon Applegate wrote:
| Is anyone using this and having failed login for a few days now ?
I?ve been mirroring the root zone(s) for years and I just started
getting failures in my logs.  I emailed an address I found on the
Verisign website but so far dead air.  If anyone knows of a more pointed
email POC that would actually have clue about this that would be awesome.

You can slave the root and more directly from ICANN:

http://www.dns.icann.org/services/axfr/


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Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-20 Thread Mehmet Akcin
F-root also allows you to axfr root-zone ( dig @f.root-servers.net . axfr )


On May 20, 2014, at 10:32 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote:

 Signed PGP part
 On 05/20/2014 02:21 PM, Brandon Applegate wrote:
 | Is anyone using this and having failed login for a few days now ?
 I?ve been mirroring the root zone(s) for years and I just started
 getting failures in my logs.  I emailed an address I found on the
 Verisign website but so far dead air.  If anyone knows of a more pointed
 email POC that would actually have clue about this that would be awesome.
 
 You can slave the root and more directly from ICANN:
 
 http://www.dns.icann.org/services/axfr/
 
 



Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-20 Thread Doug Barton
The last time I asked them, F-root had a we allow it because it's the 
right thing to do but we don't like it policy. Given that ICANN 
operates an infrastructure purposely built for doing zone transfers, and 
given that they offer more zones than are on the roots, that's the way I 
recommend people go. YMMV.


Doug


On 05/20/2014 10:42 PM, Mehmet Akcin wrote:

F-root also allows you to axfr root-zone ( dig @f.root-servers.net . axfr )


On May 20, 2014, at 10:32 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote:


Signed PGP part
On 05/20/2014 02:21 PM, Brandon Applegate wrote:
| Is anyone using this and having failed login for a few days now ?
I?ve been mirroring the root zone(s) for years and I just started
getting failures in my logs.  I emailed an address I found on the
Verisign website but so far dead air.  If anyone knows of a more pointed
email POC that would actually have clue about this that would be awesome.

You can slave the root and more directly from ICANN:

http://www.dns.icann.org/services/axfr/








Re: rz.verisign-grs.com root zone ftp access

2014-05-20 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Yeah, I was just suggesting alternatives just incase. I have setup ICANN's axfr 
servers :)

mehmet

On May 20, 2014, at 10:50 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote:

 The last time I asked them, F-root had a we allow it because it's the right 
 thing to do but we don't like it policy. Given that ICANN operates an 
 infrastructure purposely built for doing zone transfers, and given that they 
 offer more zones than are on the roots, that's the way I recommend people go. 
 YMMV.
 
 Doug
 
 
 On 05/20/2014 10:42 PM, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
 F-root also allows you to axfr root-zone ( dig @f.root-servers.net . axfr )
 
 
 On May 20, 2014, at 10:32 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote:
 
 Signed PGP part
 On 05/20/2014 02:21 PM, Brandon Applegate wrote:
 | Is anyone using this and having failed login for a few days now ?
 I?ve been mirroring the root zone(s) for years and I just started
 getting failures in my logs.  I emailed an address I found on the
 Verisign website but so far dead air.  If anyone knows of a more pointed
 email POC that would actually have clue about this that would be awesome.
 
 You can slave the root and more directly from ICANN:
 
 http://www.dns.icann.org/services/axfr/