Re: St. Louis IX Launch

[Joe Hamelin]

Congrats to St Louis!  I put in about 40 racks for Clearwire a few years
back and enjoyed the city, even if it was winter.

--
Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, +1 (360) 474-7474

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> It is a partnership and I may not be the most qualified to speak on the
> terms of the partnership. However, the non-commercial side is
> not-for-profit, but the commercial side is fully commercial.
>
> While building out our IX brand, of those that have been able to have a
> rational discussion about their anti-commercial IX position, almost all of
> them (or maybe even all of them) weren't really anti-commercial. They were
> just anti-800-lb-gorilla. They didn't hate the independent building out
> IXes in markets that maybe never had a functional IX, but surely didn't
> have one now. They hated Equinix, Coresite, etc. They just wanted someone
> that wasn't going to be a jerk to them.
>
> We don't have any aspirations to get to Equinix size. We know we're going
> to small time places and that we'll only ever have small time IXes in the
> big picture. The building we started at in Indy only advertises something
> like 20 or 30 networks in the building. Now we've grown to other buildings
> and they aren't going to list every Tom, Dick and Harry, but it's not a 300
> network market. We'll leave that to AMS-IX, DE-CIX, Megaport, etc.
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
>
> The Brothers WISP
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Ken Chase" <m...@sizone.org>
> To: "NANOG ???[nanog@nanog.org]???" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:36:20 PM
> Subject: Re: St. Louis IX Launch
>
> congrats!
>
> I am curious, is the IX non-for-profit as well? The wikipedia entry for
> IX's
> doenst indicate which IX's are non-profit. Im curious as to the prevalence
> and size (as well as the relative successes) of such IX's vs for profit
> models
> (equinix etc).
>
> /kc
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 06:30:45PM -0600, Mike Hammett said:
> >If you know someone that may be interested, we have a launch event later
> this week for our St. Louis IX. St. Louis is a bit different than our
> existing market in that we've partnered with a local non-profit that will
> be focusing on non-commercial Internet aspects. These sorts of things are
> innovation neighborhoods, IoT, healthcare, education, public safety, etc.
> They may (or may not) be the big volume things we're used to, but they need
> local, low-latency connectivity just as much.
> >
> >https://www.eventbrite.com/e/st-louis-regional-internet-
> exchange-preview-tickets-30329718003?aff=NANOG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-
> >Mike Hammett
> >Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >
> >Midwest Internet Exchange
> >
> >The Brothers WISP
> >
>
> --
> Ken Chase - k...@heavycomputing.ca skype:kenchase23 +1 416 897 6284
> Toronto Canada
> Heavy Computing - Clued bandwidth, colocation and managed linux VPS @151
> Front St. W.
>
>

Re: St. Louis IX Launch

[Mike Hammett]

It is a partnership and I may not be the most qualified to speak on the terms 
of the partnership. However, the non-commercial side is not-for-profit, but the 
commercial side is fully commercial. 

While building out our IX brand, of those that have been able to have a 
rational discussion about their anti-commercial IX position, almost all of them 
(or maybe even all of them) weren't really anti-commercial. They were just 
anti-800-lb-gorilla. They didn't hate the independent building out IXes in 
markets that maybe never had a functional IX, but surely didn't have one now. 
They hated Equinix, Coresite, etc. They just wanted someone that wasn't going 
to be a jerk to them. 

We don't have any aspirations to get to Equinix size. We know we're going to 
small time places and that we'll only ever have small time IXes in the big 
picture. The building we started at in Indy only advertises something like 20 
or 30 networks in the building. Now we've grown to other buildings and they 
aren't going to list every Tom, Dick and Harry, but it's not a 300 network 
market. We'll leave that to AMS-IX, DE-CIX, Megaport, etc. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Ken Chase" <m...@sizone.org> 
To: "NANOG ???[nanog@nanog.org]???" <nanog@nanog.org> 
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:36:20 PM 
Subject: Re: St. Louis IX Launch 

congrats! 

I am curious, is the IX non-for-profit as well? The wikipedia entry for IX's 
doenst indicate which IX's are non-profit. Im curious as to the prevalence 
and size (as well as the relative successes) of such IX's vs for profit models 
(equinix etc). 

/kc 


On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 06:30:45PM -0600, Mike Hammett said: 
>If you know someone that may be interested, we have a launch event later this 
>week for our St. Louis IX. St. Louis is a bit different than our existing 
>market in that we've partnered with a local non-profit that will be focusing 
>on non-commercial Internet aspects. These sorts of things are innovation 
>neighborhoods, IoT, healthcare, education, public safety, etc. They may (or 
>may not) be the big volume things we're used to, but they need local, 
>low-latency connectivity just as much. 
> 
>https://www.eventbrite.com/e/st-louis-regional-internet-exchange-preview-tickets-30329718003?aff=NANOG
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>- 
>Mike Hammett 
>Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
>Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
>The Brothers WISP 
> 

-- 
Ken Chase - k...@heavycomputing.ca skype:kenchase23 +1 416 897 6284 Toronto 
Canada 
Heavy Computing - Clued bandwidth, colocation and managed linux VPS @151 Front 
St. W. 

Re: St. Louis IX Launch

[Kaiser, Erich]

To bad such short notice...

:(  I am going to be out of town, would have been nice to be able to go...

Erich Kaiser
The Fusion Network
er...@gotfusion.net
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291



On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> If you know someone that may be interested, we have a launch event later
> this week for our St. Louis IX. St. Louis is a bit different than our
> existing market in that we've partnered with a local non-profit that will
> be focusing on non-commercial Internet aspects. These sorts of things are
> innovation neighborhoods, IoT, healthcare, education, public safety, etc.
> They may (or may not) be the big volume things we're used to, but they need
> local, low-latency connectivity just as much.
>
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/st-louis-regional-internet-
> exchange-preview-tickets-30329718003?aff=NANOG
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
>
> The Brothers WISP
>
>

Re: St. Louis IX Launch

[Ken Chase]

congrats!

I am curious, is the IX non-for-profit as well? The wikipedia entry for IX's
doenst indicate which IX's are non-profit. Im curious as to the prevalence
and size (as well as the relative successes) of such IX's vs for profit models 
(equinix etc).

/kc


On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 06:30:45PM -0600, Mike Hammett said:
  >If you know someone that may be interested, we have a launch event later 
this week for our St. Louis IX. St. Louis is a bit different than our existing 
market in that we've partnered with a local non-profit that will be focusing on 
non-commercial Internet aspects. These sorts of things are innovation 
neighborhoods, IoT, healthcare, education, public safety, etc. They may (or may 
not) be the big volume things we're used to, but they need local, low-latency 
connectivity just as much. 
  >
  
>https://www.eventbrite.com/e/st-louis-regional-internet-exchange-preview-tickets-30329718003?aff=NANOG
 
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >- 
  >Mike Hammett 
  >Intelligent Computing Solutions 
  >
  >Midwest Internet Exchange 
  >
  >The Brothers WISP 
  >

-- 
Ken Chase - k...@heavycomputing.ca skype:kenchase23 +1 416 897 6284 Toronto 
Canada
Heavy Computing - Clued bandwidth, colocation and managed linux VPS @151 Front 
St. W.

St. Louis IX Launch

[Mike Hammett]

If you know someone that may be interested, we have a launch event later this 
week for our St. Louis IX. St. Louis is a bit different than our existing 
market in that we've partnered with a local non-profit that will be focusing on 
non-commercial Internet aspects. These sorts of things are innovation 
neighborhoods, IoT, healthcare, education, public safety, etc. They may (or may 
not) be the big volume things we're used to, but they need local, low-latency 
connectivity just as much. 

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/st-louis-regional-internet-exchange-preview-tickets-30329718003?aff=NANOG
 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP