Re: ruminating about attendance in Canada
> > The data shows random based on time of year vs. avg > > temperature vs. attendees. > > Given that the data didn't include any information about average > temperature, I'm not sure that's accurate :-) Oh, sorry! Acquired from NOAA and Environment Canada. It's quite accurate. > Merit's presentation > at community meetings continues to include the full breakdown. Nope. But good post with the attendance numbers. It gives us the ability to estimate revenue and use the expense number whole to estimate profit or loss. -M<
Re: ruminating about attendance in Canada
On 28-Feb-2007, at 14:03, Martin Hannigan wrote: As far as raw numbers go, expecting a dip in cold climates is an error. I'm not sure what you mean. Who expects a dip in cold climates? The data shows random based on time of year vs. avg temperature vs. attendees. Given that the data didn't include any information about average temperature, I'm not sure that's accurate :-) I noticed that the transaction status on attendee list was removed. Was that mentioned in the SC record or Community Meeting? That allowed us, the community, to somewhat reverse engineer ~finances and helped identify a fare jumper. I don't believe it was mentioned in either of those places, and I didn't even notice that the columns had changed. Merit's presentation at community meetings continues to include the full breakdown. I imagine it's just something that disappeared as part of the introduction of the new registration system, but someone from Merit could confirm. Joe
Re: ruminating about attendance in Canada
> > > On 26-Feb-2007, at 17:39, Jared Mauch wrote: > [ snip ] > > We expect (empirically) a dip in the winter meetings, which I think > is illustrated by the numbers above (with Toronto and Salt Lake City > as outliers). The theory that is most frequently put forward to > explain the winter dip is the proximity to Christmas. As far as raw numbers go, expecting a dip in cold climates is an error. The data shows random based on time of year vs. avg temperature vs. attendees. I think it's Agenda. Baseline Average attendance: 452 Average Temp: 57F Average Expected Revenue: $610,290 (YR) (raised fees) Avg. No-Pay: ($67,500) (YR) I noticed that the transaction status on attendee list was removed. Was that mentioned in the SC record or Community Meeting? That allowed us, the community, to somewhat reverse engineer ~finances and helped identify a fare jumper. -M< -M<
ruminating about attendance in Canada
On 26-Feb-2007, at 17:39, Jared Mauch wrote: On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 07:21:31AM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: I don't know how many people that attended NANOG in Toronto had to go through the "international travel approval" that some of us had to. probably not the canadians. this is NAnog, not USnog, so that's just gonna be a fact of life. sure. perhaps we saw a huge attendance dip at Toronto the opposite even for non-canada source? i'm sure we saw .ca spike, but did we see .us dip? Here are some numbers from past meetings (gathered unscientifically by counting the number of names in the attendee list for each meeting): NANOG 39 (Toronto) 429 NANOG 38 (St Louis) 393 NANOG 37 (San Jose) 431 NANOG 36 (Dallas) 340 NANOG 35 (Los Angeles) 517 NANOG 34 (Seattle) 460 NANOG 33 (Las Vegas) 408 NANOG 32 (Reston) 599 NANOG 31 (San Francisco) 586 NANOG 30 (Miami) 391 NANOG 29 (Chicago) 532 NANOG 28 (Salt Lake City) 277 NANOG 27 (Phoenix) 388 NANOG 26 (Eugene) 511 NANOG 25 (Richmond Hill) 519 We expect (empirically) a dip in the winter meetings, which I think is illustrated by the numbers above (with Toronto and Salt Lake City as outliers). The theory that is most frequently put forward to explain the winter dip is the proximity to Christmas. I don't know how many locals were present in Toronto, but I seem to remember we had about 140 people registered who had never been to a NANOG meeting before. If we assume that most of those were local, and subtract that kind of number from 429 we see a fairly typical-looking dip, or at least a dip that doesn't look so different to other years to suppose there was some kind of US boycott of snow going on. Joe
