[nant-dev] [ nant-Bugs-1163859 ] 'False' is not a valid value for attribute 'debug' of csc

2005-03-15 Thread SourceForge.net
Bugs item #1163859, was opened at 2005-03-15 10:36
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Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: John Cole (johnwebbcole)
Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)
Summary:  'False' is not a valid value for attribute 'debug' of csc 

Initial Comment:
Just upgraded to the latest nant, and got this error on
one of my build files.  Shouldn't this be a little more
forgiving :-)

C:\src\NAnt\UtilityCenter\2x\Tools\ReferenceViewer\compile.build(10,6):
'False' is not a valid value
for attribute 'debug' of csc ... /. Valid values are:
false, false, true, Full, PdbOnly

I am using a style sheet to convert a Sharpe Develop
project into a NAnt build script, and these values are
straight from the #D project.

I'm going to attach the build file to this issue.

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Re: [nant-dev] Redesigned homepage

2005-03-15 Thread Gary Feldman
From: Gert Driesen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:37 AM


I'm sorry I didn't get to this sooner, as I come down on the
hate side of hierarchical menus that Troy mentioned, at least
for home pages.

The problem is that hierarchical menus encourage large menus
with many entries.  And that makes things harder to find and
less accessible, not easier.  For comparison, take a look at
the Cruise Control page at 
http://cruisecontrol.sourceforge.net/index.html .  This has 
between 11 and 15 items, depending on which ones are
expanded.  On the other hand the last proposed NAnt
page has, if I counted correctly, about 70 items when 
fully expanded.

The other advantage of the Cruise Control site is that the
selection items are nice, large buttons - which makes it much
easier for people who either have wrist pain for whatever
reason or mice that are acting up.

This doesn't necessarily mean getting rid of the idea of a
hierarchical layout on the home page, but I do think it
needs to be much, much simpler.  My basic design 
philosophy is that home pages need to be targetted to
the people who never or rarely come to the site.
Experienced, frequent visitors will bookmark the 
pages of interest (which effectively allows them to create
a customized hierachical menu) or figure out the fastest 
navigation paths.  

So may I suggest putting yourself in the place of the new
user, and try to optimize the page for that person.  Create
a separate, sub-home page for contributors, and
just have one link to it from the home page.  Remove 
everything else that's only of interest to contributors.  Move
the link to the introduction to be the first thing under
the documentation heading, not buried under User 
Manual.  Combine the Releases and Nightly Build
sections under one heading, called Downloads (because
that's the jargon most commonly used, and hence
the one that people expect to see).  

But besides all that, I think the single best thing that could be
done is to put a direct link to Tasks, Targets, Expressions,
Functions, etc. on each and every page of the online manual
(not the entire web site).  The idea is that whenever you're
looking at a specific task, it should be one click to get to the 
function index, expression page, etc. and vice versa.

Just my two cents, wholesale, for what it's worth.

Gary




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RE: [nant-dev] Redesigned homepage

2005-03-15 Thread Gert Driesen
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Troy Laurin
 Sent: woensdag 16 maart 2005 2:39
 To: Gary Feldman
 Cc: nant-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [nant-dev] Redesigned homepage
 
 Gary, 
 
 You have some very good points there, but I'm not sure that
 CruiseControl is a very good example of a website... the left-hand
 menu is good from a UI point of view... as you say, the link target
 areas are large, and links and elements are all very obvious... but
 the menu content is remarkably poor, to the point that as a newcomer
 to the website I would have had a nightmare trying to work out the
 system if I weren't already familiar with CC.Net, and even knowing the
 layout of their website now, I still find it hard to find information
 in their site.
 
 Having said that, I like and agree with your suggestions for improving
 the usability of the site for newcomers... I'll have a play and try to
 create some comparisons of the different ideas.

I agree that there are loads of items in the menu, but that is only because
I wanted to not only make documentation for the current release, but also
for previous releases and the latest nightly build available online.

Other than that, I'm rather satisfied with it (definitely compared to the
current homepage).

Gert



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