[nant-dev] Building Projects With NAnt
Hi all, Since I've decided to adopt NAnt as the standard build tool here at ::agamura::, I've written a document titled Building Projects With NAnt... It is available at http://developer.agamura.com/technotes either in PDF or HTML format -- DocBook source files will be available soon. May be it could be helpful for those who are new to NAnt... It covers NAnt basics and introduces how projects should be structured. Any comment, suggestion, or critic is welcome! Gius_. -- Giuseppe Greco ::agamura:: phone: +41 (0)91 604 67 65 mobile: +41 (0)76 390 60 32 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:www.agamura.com --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0016ave/direct;at.asp_061203_01/01 ___ nant-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nant-developers
Re: [nant-dev] Building Projects With NAnt
will the html version be hosted somewhere so we can link to it from the NAnt home page ? Ian Hi all, Since I've decided to adopt NAnt as the standard build tool here at ::agamura::, I've written a document titled Building Projects With NAnt... It is available at http://developer.agamura.com/technotes either in PDF or HTML format -- DocBook source files will be available soon. May be it could be helpful for those who are new to NAnt... It covers NAnt basics and introduces how projects should be structured. Any comment, suggestion, or critic is welcome! Gius_. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0016ave/direct;at.asp_061203_01/01 ___ nant-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nant-developers
Re: [nant-dev] Building Projects With NAnt
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 06:23, Ian MacLean wrote: will the html version be hosted somewhere so we can link to it from the NAnt home page ? Et voil! http://developer.agamura.com/technotes/building-projects-with-nant/ The HTML version is now online. Note that I'm building a new web site for ::agamura:: and this URL may be changed... but don't worry, if the case, I'll notice that in advance. Gius_. Ian Hi all, Since I've decided to adopt NAnt as the standard build tool here at ::agamura::, I've written a document titled Building Projects With NAnt... It is available at http://developer.agamura.com/technotes either in PDF or HTML format -- DocBook source files will be available soon. May be it could be helpful for those who are new to NAnt... It covers NAnt basics and introduces how projects should be structured. Any comment, suggestion, or critic is welcome! Gius_. -- Giuseppe Greco ::agamura:: phone: +41 (0)91 604 67 65 mobile: +41 (0)76 390 60 32 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:www.agamura.com --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0016ave/direct;at.asp_061203_01/01 ___ nant-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nant-developers
Re: [nant-dev] Building Projects With NAnt
Ian, On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 06:15, Ian MacLean wrote: Nice work Guis. Thanks. One small point - the nant build file has no install target yet. I know... I've just anticipated what we are going to do soon. Do you remember the discussion we had a couple of days ago? Ev. we could temporarily remove the Installing NAnt section. Gius_. I agree we should add it. Its just not been implemented yet. Ian Hi all, Since I've decided to adopt NAnt as the standard build tool here at ::agamura::, I've written a document titled Building Projects With NAnt... It is available at http://developer.agamura.com/technotes either in PDF or HTML format -- DocBook source files will be available soon. May be it could be helpful for those who are new to NAnt... It covers NAnt basics and introduces how projects should be structured. Any comment, suggestion, or critic is welcome! Gius_. -- Giuseppe Greco ::agamura:: phone: +41 (0)91 604 67 65 mobile: +41 (0)76 390 60 32 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web:www.agamura.com --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0016ave/direct;at.asp_061203_01/01 ___ nant-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nant-developers
Re: [nant-dev] Building Projects With NAnt
I think it's a good idea to promote good build system design and I think
that your document is a step in the right direction.
I like the idea of being able to treat all subprojects in a generic way. You
use gateway build files for that purpose, but I think that this kind of
functionality should be directly supported with NAnt, so you don't need to
resort to this kind of hack.
I think, one should be able to invoke nant like this (or with some other
syntax):
nant target=${target}
buildfiles
includes ... /
/buildfiles
/nant
This can be even used with recently added named filesets feature. You
would define a (single) fileset that would keep all your *.build files and
invoke various targets on it using simple one-liner without the need of a
gateway file trick.
I don't remember the exact syntax for named filesets, but the concept is:
fileset id=childrenBuildFiles
includes file=**/*.build /
/fileset
target name=build
nant target=build fileset=childrenBuildFiles /
/target
This would make your *.build files MUCH more readable, and simplicity and
readability is (imho) the most iportant part of a build system.
What do you think?
Jarek
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From: Giuseppe Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NAnt Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED]; NAnt Users
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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:29 PM
Subject: [nant-dev] Building Projects With NAnt
Hi all,
Since I've decided to adopt NAnt as the standard build
tool here at ::agamura::, I've written a document titled
Building Projects With NAnt...
It is available at http://developer.agamura.com/technotes
either in PDF or HTML format -- DocBook source files will
be available soon.
May be it could be helpful for those who are new to NAnt...
It covers NAnt basics and introduces how projects should
be structured.
Any comment, suggestion, or critic is welcome!
Gius_.
--
Giuseppe Greco
::agamura::
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mobile: +41 (0)76 390 60 32
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web:www.agamura.com
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Re: [Nant-users] Re: [nant-dev] Building Projects With NAnt
Jaroslaw,
First of all, thank you for your feedback! I've really appreciated it.
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 23:55, Jaroslaw Kowalski wrote:
I think it's a good idea to promote good build system design and I think
that your document is a step in the right direction.
I like the idea of being able to treat all subprojects in a generic way. You
use gateway build files for that purpose, but I think that this kind of
functionality should be directly supported with NAnt, so you don't need to
resort to this kind of hack.
I think, one should be able to invoke nant like this (or with some other
syntax):
nant target=${target}
buildfiles
includes ... /
/buildfiles
/nant
This would be nice... but it is not implemented yet.
The main advantage of gateway build files, is that you can add
new subprojects without having to modify any build file.
This can be even used with recently added named filesets feature. You
would define a (single) fileset that would keep all your *.build files and
invoke various targets on it using simple one-liner without the need of a
gateway file trick.
I don't remember the exact syntax for named filesets, but the concept is:
fileset id=childrenBuildFiles
includes file=**/*.build /
/fileset
target name=build
nant target=build fileset=childrenBuildFiles /
/target
Yes, the syntax is correct. I'll introduce an example ASAP -- fileset
references are available since last Tuesday...
This would make your *.build files MUCH more readable, and simplicity and
readability is (imho) the most iportant part of a build system.
What do you think?
I think we could discuss all together how to continue the development
of this document; as soon as I'll publish the DocBook source files,
anybody will be able to enhance it...
Gius_.
Jarek
- Original Message -
From: Giuseppe Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NAnt Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED]; NAnt Users
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:29 PM
Subject: [nant-dev] Building Projects With NAnt
Hi all,
Since I've decided to adopt NAnt as the standard build
tool here at ::agamura::, I've written a document titled
Building Projects With NAnt...
It is available at http://developer.agamura.com/technotes
either in PDF or HTML format -- DocBook source files will
be available soon.
May be it could be helpful for those who are new to NAnt...
It covers NAnt basics and introduces how projects should
be structured.
Any comment, suggestion, or critic is welcome!
Gius_.
--
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::agamura::
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mobile: +41 (0)76 390 60 32
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Project Structure Ideas (Was: RE: [Nant-users] Re: [nant-dev] Building Projects With NAnt)
We do something similar except our master build file explicitly calls
the sub build files in the correct order. There is some elegance to the
idea of adding a subproject without having to modify an existing build
file. That doesn't work for us, and it doesn't work in general when you
have cross-subproject dependencies.
Our directory layout is not quite as hierachical as the example (there
is only one level of directories for subprojects). From the top level
source directory, there are several subdirectories--one for each
assembly. At first we were using the foreach technique shown in your
example except that the subdirectories actually need to be processed in
non-alphabetic order. Say we have subprojects A, B, and C. Because A
and C both reference the class library being built in B, we have to
build B first and then A and C.
The only way we've come up with to do that is for the master build file
to directly nant into B, then A and C.
What would be nice is if there was some way of this being automatically
determined. It is theoretically possible for some algorithm to notice
the fact that the csc task in A's project has a references to the
file created as output in the csc task of B.
Anyway, it's not a huge issue for us right now. For now we have half a
dozen assemblies with simple dependencies. However, we're just one
small development team in the company. Currently the company has 100+
COM DLLs. If someday we migrate our applications to .NET and look at
NAnt, the dependencies of those 100+ assemblies (assuming we don't
combine a lot more than we do now) will be a bit difficult to manage by
hand.
Even if we can't find an elegant solution where NAnt figures it out
itself, I have though about writing an app that traverses all of our
slave build files and building a dependency map that could be used to
generate a correct build order for a master build file to read from a
file.
Anyway, enough of my pipe dreams...
-Original Message-
From: Giuseppe Greco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 5:54 PM
To: Jaroslaw Kowalski; NAnt Developers
Cc: NAnt Users
Jaroslaw,
First of all, thank you for your feedback! I've really appreciated it.
On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 23:55, Jaroslaw Kowalski wrote:
I think it's a good idea to promote good build system design and I
think
that your document is a step in the right direction.
I like the idea of being able to treat all subprojects in a generic
way. You
use gateway build files for that purpose, but I think that this kind
of
functionality should be directly supported with NAnt, so you don't
need to
resort to this kind of hack.
I think, one should be able to invoke nant like this (or with some
other
syntax):
nant target=${target}
buildfiles
includes ... /
/buildfiles
/nant
This would be nice... but it is not implemented yet.
The main advantage of gateway build files, is that you can add
new subprojects without having to modify any build file.
This can be even used with recently added named filesets feature.
You
would define a (single) fileset that would keep all your *.build files
and
invoke various targets on it using simple one-liner without the need
of a
gateway file trick.
I don't remember the exact syntax for named filesets, but the concept
is:
fileset id=childrenBuildFiles
includes file=**/*.build /
/fileset
target name=build
nant target=build fileset=childrenBuildFiles /
/target
Yes, the syntax is correct. I'll introduce an example ASAP -- fileset
references are available since last Tuesday...
This would make your *.build files MUCH more readable, and simplicity
and
readability is (imho) the most iportant part of a build system.
What do you think?
I think we could discuss all together how to continue the development
of this document; as soon as I'll publish the DocBook source files,
anybody will be able to enhance it...
Gius_.
Jarek
- Original Message -
From: Giuseppe Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: NAnt Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED]; NAnt
Users
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:29 PM
Subject: [nant-dev] Building Projects With NAnt
Hi all,
Since I've decided to adopt NAnt as the standard build
tool here at ::agamura::, I've written a document titled
Building Projects With NAnt...
It is available at http://developer.agamura.com/technotes
either in PDF or HTML format -- DocBook source files will
be available soon.
May be it could be helpful for those who are new to NAnt...
It covers NAnt basics and introduces how projects should
be structured.
Any comment, suggestion, or critic is welcome!
Gius_.
--
Giuseppe Greco
::agamura::
phone: +41 (0)91 604 67 65
mobile: +41 (0)76 390 60 32
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web:www.agamura.com
Re: [nant-dev] Building Projects With NAnt
Nice work Guis. One small point - the nant build file has no install target yet. I agree we should add it. Its just not been implemented yet. Ian Hi all, Since I've decided to adopt NAnt as the standard build tool here at ::agamura::, I've written a document titled Building Projects With NAnt... It is available at http://developer.agamura.com/technotes either in PDF or HTML format -- DocBook source files will be available soon. May be it could be helpful for those who are new to NAnt... It covers NAnt basics and introduces how projects should be structured. Any comment, suggestion, or critic is welcome! Gius_. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0016ave/direct;at.asp_061203_01/01 ___ nant-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nant-developers
Re: [nant-dev] Building Projects With NAnt
Giuseppe Greco wrote: One small point - the nant build file has no install target yet. I know... I've just anticipated what we are going to do soon. Do you remember the discussion we had a couple of days ago? yep - I can probably add it before 0.83 release. Ev. we could temporarily remove the Installing NAnt section. I wouldn't worry about it we'll just add the new target. Ian --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0016ave/direct;at.asp_061203_01/01 ___ nant-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nant-developers
