Re: [nebula-dev] NetTable & RAP

[Vincenzo Caselli]

Hi Wim, Dirk,
after reading this
http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2014/10/15/rap-3-0-m2-whats-new-in-widgets/
I am wondering what are the features that NatTable provides in addition to
Nebula GridViewer.
Can you help for a comparison?

As for the NatTable, I made a try and
imported org.eclipse.nebula.widgets.nattable.core into a RAP 3.0.2
workspace: most of the problems pointed out by Angelo in 2012 are still
there. I commented out the parts with errors and was able to see something
somehow

[image: Inline image 1]

but it is totally unusable this way.
Probably going through each commented part with attention may be a way.
But must admit that GridViewer, with all the JFace viewer powerful
concepts, raises the doubt about going on in this direction.

I don't want to put the two projects one against the other: just would like
to understand them better.

Cheers

Vincenzo


On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Dirk Fauth  wrote:

> I'm not sure. It is 5 years old, so I think (and hope) the issues with
> missing API is gone with a more current version of RAP.
> Also the hint to use Require-Bundle instead of Import-Package is something
> I will probably never add to one of the projects I'm responsible for. ;-)
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Wim Jongman  com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Dirk,
>>
>>
>>
>> I re-read that thread and Angelo’s answers looks very useful.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://markmail.org/message/7fcad6ofm3vbex5p#query:+page:1+
>> mid:oypkofpqvfnfsfuv+state:results
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Wim
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:nebula-dev-bounces@ecl
>> ipse.org] *On Behalf Of *Dirk Fauth
>> *Sent:* maandag 6 februari 2017 21:12
>> *To:* Nebula Dev
>> *Subject:* Re: [nebula-dev] NetTable & RAP
>>
>>
>>
>> To be honest, I can't remember anymore. But probably reading the
>> configuration on rendering constantly.
>>
>>
>>
>> As I am not familiar with RAP, therefore I can't tell anything. And it
>> was years ago when I was last contacted on that topic by someone from the
>> RAP team.
>>
>>
>>
>> There was a discussion about 5 years ago, without any further conclusion:
>> http://markmail.org/message/7fcad6ofm3vbex5p
>>
>>
>>
>> Also there are some posts by the RAP team saying that NatTable is not
>> supported as it doesn't fit:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2014/10/15/rap-3-0-m2-whats-
>> new-in-widgets/
>>
>> https://www.eclipse.org/rap/noteworthy/3.0/
>>
>>
>>
>> I even heard that they added support for KTable, so actually I'm not sure
>> what the real blocker is. But that is my state of information.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Wim Jongman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> What architecture would that be? You are calling the back-end many times
>> because of the layers?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Wim
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Dirk Fauth  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> The short answer is no. The RAP team once said that the architecture does
>> not match.
>>
>>
>>
>> I never made any attempts to make it work, nor did the RAP team look
>> closer afaik.
>>
>>
>>
>> Greez,
>>
>> Dirk
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 06.02.2017 4:59 PM schrieb "Vincenzo Caselli" <
>> vincenzo.case...@rcp-vision.com>:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> we at RCP Vision would like to use the NatTable in RAP.
>>
>> Are there any resource on some effort spent in this direction (a minimal
>> example or so)?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Vincenzo
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [nebula-dev] NetTable & RAP

[Dirk Fauth]

I'm not sure. It is 5 years old, so I think (and hope) the issues with
missing API is gone with a more current version of RAP.
Also the hint to use Require-Bundle instead of Import-Package is something
I will probably never add to one of the projects I'm responsible for. ;-)

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Wim Jongman 
wrote:

> Thanks Dirk,
>
>
>
> I re-read that thread and Angelo’s answers looks very useful.
>
>
>
> http://markmail.org/message/7fcad6ofm3vbex5p#query:+page:
> 1+mid:oypkofpqvfnfsfuv+state:results
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Wim
>
>
>
> *From:* nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:nebula-dev-bounces@
> eclipse.org] *On Behalf Of *Dirk Fauth
> *Sent:* maandag 6 februari 2017 21:12
> *To:* Nebula Dev
> *Subject:* Re: [nebula-dev] NetTable & RAP
>
>
>
> To be honest, I can't remember anymore. But probably reading the
> configuration on rendering constantly.
>
>
>
> As I am not familiar with RAP, therefore I can't tell anything. And it was
> years ago when I was last contacted on that topic by someone from the RAP
> team.
>
>
>
> There was a discussion about 5 years ago, without any further conclusion:
> http://markmail.org/message/7fcad6ofm3vbex5p
>
>
>
> Also there are some posts by the RAP team saying that NatTable is not
> supported as it doesn't fit:
>
>
>
> http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2014/10/15/rap-3-0-m2-whats-new-in-widgets/
>
> https://www.eclipse.org/rap/noteworthy/3.0/
>
>
>
> I even heard that they added support for KTable, so actually I'm not sure
> what the real blocker is. But that is my state of information.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Wim Jongman  wrote:
>
> What architecture would that be? You are calling the back-end many times
> because of the layers?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wim
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Dirk Fauth  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> The short answer is no. The RAP team once said that the architecture does
> not match.
>
>
>
> I never made any attempts to make it work, nor did the RAP team look
> closer afaik.
>
>
>
> Greez,
>
> Dirk
>
>
>
> Am 06.02.2017 4:59 PM schrieb "Vincenzo Caselli" <
> vincenzo.case...@rcp-vision.com>:
>
> Hi all,
>
> we at RCP Vision would like to use the NatTable in RAP.
>
> Are there any resource on some effort spent in this direction (a minimal
> example or so)?
>
>
>
> Thank you very much in advance.
>
>
>
> Vincenzo
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [nebula-dev] NetTable & RAP

[Wim Jongman]

Thanks Dirk,

I re-read that thread and Angelo’s answers looks very useful.

http://markmail.org/message/7fcad6ofm3vbex5p#query:+page:1+mid:oypkofpqvfnfsfuv+state:results

Cheers,

Wim

From: nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:nebula-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On 
Behalf Of Dirk Fauth
Sent: maandag 6 februari 2017 21:12
To: Nebula Dev
Subject: Re: [nebula-dev] NetTable & RAP

To be honest, I can't remember anymore. But probably reading the configuration 
on rendering constantly.

As I am not familiar with RAP, therefore I can't tell anything. And it was 
years ago when I was last contacted on that topic by someone from the RAP team.

There was a discussion about 5 years ago, without any further conclusion: 
http://markmail.org/message/7fcad6ofm3vbex5p

Also there are some posts by the RAP team saying that NatTable is not supported 
as it doesn't fit:

http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2014/10/15/rap-3-0-m2-whats-new-in-widgets/
https://www.eclipse.org/rap/noteworthy/3.0/

I even heard that they added support for KTable, so actually I'm not sure what 
the real blocker is. But that is my state of information.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Wim Jongman 
> wrote:
What architecture would that be? You are calling the back-end many times 
because of the layers?
Cheers,
Wim

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Dirk Fauth 
> wrote:
Hi,

The short answer is no. The RAP team once said that the architecture does not 
match.

I never made any attempts to make it work, nor did the RAP team look closer 
afaik.

Greez,
Dirk

Am 06.02.2017 4:59 PM schrieb "Vincenzo Caselli" 
>:
Hi all,
we at RCP Vision would like to use the NatTable in RAP.
Are there any resource on some effort spent in this direction (a minimal 
example or so)?

Thank you very much in advance.

Vincenzo


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Re: [nebula-dev] NetTable & RAP

[Dirk Fauth]

To be honest, I can't remember anymore. But probably reading the
configuration on rendering constantly.

As I am not familiar with RAP, therefore I can't tell anything. And it was
years ago when I was last contacted on that topic by someone from the RAP
team.

There was a discussion about 5 years ago, without any further conclusion:
http://markmail.org/message/7fcad6ofm3vbex5p

Also there are some posts by the RAP team saying that NatTable is not
supported as it doesn't fit:

http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2014/10/15/rap-3-0-m2-whats-new-in-widgets/
https://www.eclipse.org/rap/noteworthy/3.0/

I even heard that they added support for KTable, so actually I'm not sure
what the real blocker is. But that is my state of information.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Wim Jongman  wrote:

> What architecture would that be? You are calling the back-end many times
> because of the layers?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Wim
>
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Dirk Fauth  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The short answer is no. The RAP team once said that the architecture does
>> not match.
>>
>> I never made any attempts to make it work, nor did the RAP team look
>> closer afaik.
>>
>> Greez,
>> Dirk
>>
>> Am 06.02.2017 4:59 PM schrieb "Vincenzo Caselli" <
>> vincenzo.case...@rcp-vision.com>:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> we at RCP Vision would like to use the NatTable in RAP.
>>> Are there any resource on some effort spent in this direction (a minimal
>>> example or so)?
>>>
>>> Thank you very much in advance.
>>>
>>> Vincenzo
>>>
>>>
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Re: [nebula-dev] NetTable & RAP

[Wim Jongman]

What architecture would that be? You are calling the back-end many times
because of the layers?

Cheers,

Wim

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Dirk Fauth  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The short answer is no. The RAP team once said that the architecture does
> not match.
>
> I never made any attempts to make it work, nor did the RAP team look
> closer afaik.
>
> Greez,
> Dirk
>
> Am 06.02.2017 4:59 PM schrieb "Vincenzo Caselli" <
> vincenzo.case...@rcp-vision.com>:
>
>> Hi all,
>> we at RCP Vision would like to use the NatTable in RAP.
>> Are there any resource on some effort spent in this direction (a minimal
>> example or so)?
>>
>> Thank you very much in advance.
>>
>> Vincenzo
>>
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[nebula-dev] NetTable & RAP

[Vincenzo Caselli]

Hi all,
we at RCP Vision would like to use the NatTable in RAP.
Are there any resource on some effort spent in this direction (a minimal
example or so)?

Thank you very much in advance.

Vincenzo
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