RE: [neonixie-l] Loose tube
Sylgard-184, as a silicone high-voltage potting compound, would be perfect for this task. Curing time is length, however, at several days. See: http://cgi.ebay.com/SYLGARD-184-solar-SILICONE-ELASTOMER-ENCAPSULATION-KIT-/ 160444166089?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item255b37afc9#ht_8211wt_825 -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 9:51 AM To: neonixie-l Subject: [neonixie-l] Loose tube I have a tube where the glass envelope is loose from the base. Any recommendations on the type of glue to use to fix it. I would like to use something that is transparent when dried. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Loose tube
That should work well too. Home Depot/Lowes has all sorts of epoxies. I remember that at least some of them are very close to being clear. -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 12:48 PM To: neonixie-l Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Loose tube Th Sylgard looks like an excellent, but very expensive, solution. All the online sources I found sold it in large quantities. I think epoxy is going to be my solution. -Original Message- From: Ulysses J. Balis [mailto:ulba...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 10:33 AM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Loose tube Sylgard-184, as a silicone high-voltage potting compound, would be perfect for this task. Curing time is length, however, at several days. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
RE: [neonixie-l] Loose tube
If the tube in question is a Nixie, however, the clear glass in front of the digits may get fouled by the drying glue. Cyanoacrylate has the nasty habit of occasionally evaporating and locally re-depositing on nearby surfaces, leaving a white, powdery coating that is hard to remove. Structurally, its strength is superb (albeit brittle). In final evaluation, I would go with the epoxy over a cyanoacrylate formulation, it's a nixie. I agree that superglue is a good (and fast) choice for any other tube class where cosmetics don't matter. -Original Message- From: chuck richards [mailto:chuc...@all2easy.net] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 2:53 PM To: ulba...@gmail.com; neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Loose tube I have used superglue (cyanoacrylate) to fix several situations such as that. My applications have been on old Western Electric ballast lamps and switchboard lamps that have the glass envelope loose on the phenolic base. The superglue works nicely, wicks it's way down into the narrow space between glass and base, and dries clear. I think it would work fine for your tube. Chuck Original Message From: ulba...@gmail.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Loose tube Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:33:01 -0500 Sylgard-184, as a silicone high-voltage potting compound, would be perfect for this task. Curing time is length, however, at several days. See: http://cgi.ebay.com/SYLGARD-184-solar-SILICONE-ELASTOMER-ENCAPSULATI ON-KIT-/ 160444166089?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item255b37afc9#ht_8211wt_825 -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 9:51 AM To: neonixie-l Subject: [neonixie-l] Loose tube I have a tube where the glass envelope is loose from the base. Any recommendations on the type of glue to use to fix it. I would like to use something that is transparent when dried. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group /neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
RE: [neonixie-l] Loose tube
I would think that maybe a small shield made of paper, taped on to the tube might help keep the front free of the fouling glue vapor. Tape it on, glue the tube base, then peel the shield off. Just an idea. Chuck Original Message From: ulba...@gmail.com To: chuc...@all2easy.net, neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Loose tube Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:03:19 -0500 If the tube in question is a Nixie, however, the clear glass in front of the digits may get fouled by the drying glue. Cyanoacrylate has the nasty habit of occasionally evaporating and locally re-depositing on nearby surfaces, leaving a white, powdery coating that is hard to remove. Structurally, its strength is superb (albeit brittle). In final evaluation, I would go with the epoxy over a cyanoacrylate formulation, it's a nixie. I agree that superglue is a good (and fast) choice for any other tube class where cosmetics don't matter. -Original Message- From: chuck richards [mailto:chuc...@all2easy.net] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 2:53 PM To: ulba...@gmail.com; neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Loose tube I have used superglue (cyanoacrylate) to fix several situations such as that. My applications have been on old Western Electric ballast lamps and switchboard lamps that have the glass envelope loose on the phenolic base. The superglue works nicely, wicks it's way down into the narrow space between glass and base, and dries clear. I think it would work fine for your tube. Chuck Original Message From: ulba...@gmail.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Loose tube Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:33:01 -0500 Sylgard-184, as a silicone high-voltage potting compound, would be perfect for this task. Curing time is length, however, at several days. See: http://cgi.ebay.com/SYLGARD-184-solar-SILICONE-ELASTOMER-ENCAPSULA TI ON-KIT-/ 160444166089?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item255b37afc9#ht_8211wt_8 25 -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 9:51 AM To: neonixie-l Subject: [neonixie-l] Loose tube I have a tube where the glass envelope is loose from the base. Any recommendations on the type of glue to use to fix it. I would like to use something that is transparent when dried. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group /neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group /neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
RE: [neonixie-l] Loose tube
I would think that maybe a small shield made of paper, taped on to the tube might help keep the front free of the fouling glue vapor. Tape it on, glue the tube base, then peel the shield off. Just an idea. Chuck Original Message From: ulba...@gmail.com To: chuc...@all2easy.net, neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Loose tube Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:03:19 -0500 If the tube in question is a Nixie, however, the clear glass in front of the digits may get fouled by the drying glue. Cyanoacrylate has the nasty habit of occasionally evaporating and locally re-depositing on nearby surfaces, leaving a white, powdery coating that is hard to remove. Structurally, its strength is superb (albeit brittle). In final evaluation, I would go with the epoxy over a cyanoacrylate formulation, it's a nixie. I agree that superglue is a good (and fast) choice for any other tube class where cosmetics don't matter. -Original Message- From: chuck richards [mailto:chuc...@all2easy.net] Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 2:53 PM To: ulba...@gmail.com; neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Loose tube I have used superglue (cyanoacrylate) to fix several situations such as that. My applications have been on old Western Electric ballast lamps and switchboard lamps that have the glass envelope loose on the phenolic base. The superglue works nicely, wicks it's way down into the narrow space between glass and base, and dries clear. I think it would work fine for your tube. Chuck Original Message From: ulba...@gmail.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Loose tube Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 10:33:01 -0500 Sylgard-184, as a silicone high-voltage potting compound, would be perfect for this task. Curing time is length, however, at several days. See: http://cgi.ebay.com/SYLGARD-184-solar-SILICONE-ELASTOMER-ENCAPSULA TI ON-KIT-/ 160444166089?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item255b37afc9#ht_8211wt_8 25 -Original Message- From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 9:51 AM To: neonixie-l Subject: [neonixie-l] Loose tube I have a tube where the glass envelope is loose from the base. Any recommendations on the type of glue to use to fix it. I would like to use something that is transparent when dried. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group /neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group /neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. $4.95/mo. National Dialup, Anti-Spam, Anti-Virus, 5mb personal web space. 5x faster dialup for only $9.95/mo. No contracts, No fees, No Kidding! See http://www.All2Easy.net for more details! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Loose tube
On 10-11-13 09:50 AM, Larry wrote: I have a tube where the glass envelope is loose from the base. Any recommendations on the type of glue to use to fix it. I would like to use something that is transparent when dried. The RCA Cement was based on Shellac. Running some Alcohol down the tube may disolve the original shellac enough to make a fix. I alway worry about Super glue or epoxy causing a crack if the tube expands more than the base. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe http://www.TelecomOttawa.net/~cmacd/ No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: [neonixie-l] Loose tube
Super glue or epoxy causing a crack if the tube expands more than the base Exactly why I initially suggested Sylgard-184. It has a very high elastic modulus and will not crack anything, even with extreme temperature cycling. As a potting compound, it was designed to be compatible with all conventional materials that might be found in an electronic / vacuum tube assembly. With some searching it is available in smaller two-part 100ml containers, which is not so expensive at the larger jugs. On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Charles MacDonald cm...@zeusprune.cawrote: On 10-11-13 09:50 AM, Larry wrote: I have a tube where the glass envelope is loose from the base. Any recommendations on the type of glue to use to fix it. I would like to use something that is transparent when dried. The RCA Cement was based on Shellac. Running some Alcohol down the tube may disolve the original shellac enough to make a fix. I alway worry about Super glue or epoxy causing a crack if the tube expands more than the base. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe http://www.TelecomOttawa.net/~cmacd/ No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comneonixie-l%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube History - help needed
As a complete and utter novice reading this thread; there is some seriously great knowledge, and true expert opinion bouncing back and forth. As a group, can we not overcome the he-said-she-said differences and capture this to Wikipedia? From the perspective of a novice, Wikipedia's voice speaks loudest. Can we make it speak the truth? If there are differing opinions can we document them on Wikipedia something like; Some think A, others think B? From my perspective, knowing nothing. I want to read it all. I want to read both perspectives. I'm smart, I can dig deeper; just get me started! Steve On Nov 10, 3:31 pm, Erick Anderson hell...@gmail.com wrote: If you have better information, please don't keep it to yourself. I keep an eye on the article from time to time, but I don't have much to contribute to it besides taking photos of my own stuff. On Nov 9, 9:37 am, Accutron accut...@woh.rr.com wrote: I used to try to edit Wiki pages; now I just tell them they're stupid on the Talk page, and let them hash it out on their own. Micah Mabelitinihttp://www.decadecounter.com/ You may be exaggerating a bit, but calling people stupid doesn't really help anyone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
Re: ETC GROUP Re: [neonixie-l] NU124-6 Nixie tube from National Union
On Nov 13, 2:44 am, Jens Boos webmas...@jb-electronics.de wrote: so no one has these pictures of the NU124-6? [...] So no one has the picture? No one? :-( AJ what about you, didn't you have a large Nixie tube picture database? No, I don't have a large Nixie tube picture database. In fact, I don't even keep copies of any of the photos I posted to the Yahoo NEONIXIE- L. So, if anyone wants those, better get them while they're still there! A.J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixi...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.
