Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch case update

[Adam Jacobs]

Steve Wozniak looked pretty pleased with his when he was showing it to me.

-Adam


On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 4:16 PM, J Forbes  wrote:

> THis doesn't seem to reflect reality.at least the reality of myself
> and the others I know who own David's nixie watches.
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 2:34:10 PM UTC-7, Michel wrote:
>
>
>> I am quite sure that if you wear a "normal"
>> watch you check the time much more frequent than if you need to hold
>> your watch on a 90 degree angle that everyone will notice. Otherwise
>> it will become a watch that you only wear on occasions.
>>
>> Michel
>>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch case update

[J Forbes]

THis doesn't seem to reflect reality.at least the reality of myself and 
the others I know who own David's nixie watches.

On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 2:34:10 PM UTC-7, Michel wrote:
 

> I am quite sure that if you wear a "normal" 
> watch you check the time much more frequent than if you need to hold 
> your watch on a 90 degree angle that everyone will notice. Otherwise 
> it will become a watch that you only wear on occasions. 
>
> Michel 
>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch case update

[Michel]

I noticed that my watch also has faulty time triggers, but only when
you cover it with a long sleeve (which I seldom do). It really depends
on the reflective properties of the sleeve whether it will trigger
time readings or not. However, while the watch is covered, it will be
in a darker environment and for this reason it won't use much energy
to display the time. Although I haven't done so yet, the motion sensor
can be disabled if you wear sleeves that have reflective properties
close to the threshold level of the time trigger mechanism. You can
then just push the button to initiate a time reading.

When the trigger angle of David's watch is increased (like Jim said,
close to 90 degrees), for sure that will reduce faulty time triggers.
There is many occasions that I like to know the time but do not want
this to be very obvious to others, with a 90 degree angle you cannot
hide the fact that you are checking the time. With the refection
sensor it is easy to twist your wrist a bit and reflect against
something (say your other arm or a table or whatever there is close to
you) to trigger a time reading while nobody else notices this.

As for the 125 readings per day, if you say that this means checking
the time every 7 or 8 minutes, yes it does sound a lot indeed!
However, normally when I want to know the time this is for a reason (a
schedule) and I probably then check it every 30 seconds, 10 times in a
row or something like that. Maybe I do check the time more often than
the average person, but I am quite sure that if you wear a "normal"
watch you check the time much more frequent than if you need to hold
your watch on a 90 degree angle that everyone will notice. Otherwise
it will become a watch that you only wear on occasions.

Michel

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch case update

[Lucky]

No I don't (unfortunately) have one of David's watches (Yet) but is 
certainly on my wish list but then along came Michel and I like the design 
of his watch as well, hmm...going to have to buy one of each now aren't I?
In all seriousness I think both you guys have superb designs and am envious 
of your skills and talents. Yes I think the rechargeable design is great 
and pushing me towards it, I hate have so many mini psu's (Wallwart?) 
hanging around but now the mini usb standard is starting to be extensively 
used eg with my mobile phone it makes sense to put them to further use.  I 
get the 45degree tilt idea, would be interesting to see the number of 
triggers per day/week
Kudos to both guys (and I actually enjoy the banter seeing you bounce ideas 
off of each other whilst we mortals listen in haha)

On Wednesday, 7 November 2012 17:31:48 UTC, J Forbes wrote:
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 10:24:43 AM UTC-7, Lucky wrote:
>>
>>
>> Regardless, on viewing amount/times, as I understand it you have a tilt 
>> sensor to enable the tubes at a set angle but will not the tubes also 
>> ignite during normal everyday wearing? For instance my arm right now as I 
>> type is at the ideal viewing angle, I can also imagine many times when my 
>> arm would be at this angle, so is the watch going to be turning on 
>> regularly or what stops that from happening? (I can envisage the 'hundreds 
>> of times' scenario if no safeguards in place)
>>
>
> I guess you don't have one of David's watches? The "ideal viewing angle" 
> probably isn't what you expect it to bethe watch is designed so that 
> you move it so it's "flat" then roll your wrist so the top of the watch 
> moves toward your head. Hard to explain...watch the video and see how it 
> works.  I like to set the angle so it's closer to 90 degrees, than the 
> suggested 45 degrees.
>
> It really does work, in normal use the watch does not turn on too often. I 
> almost always get more than 6 months out of a CR2 battery. 
>
> The new rechargeable watch will be fun to see how the battery lasts...I 
> plan to charge it weekly, and see how it does. Recommended charge interval 
> is three weeks, which is probably hard to remember.
>
> Jim Forbes 
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] How to clean dusted tubes with coating?

[David Forbes]

On 11/7/12 10:53 AM, kay486 wrote:

Hi there,
i just got few ZM1040 tubes that have never been used, the thing is that
they were laying around for id say 20 years without box or anything and
now they are really dusted. The thing is that they still have good
coating under the dust, wich is pretty rare on tesla tubes, since tesla
had the least resistant red coating (based on what i saw) Thats why id
liketo ask you is you have any experience with cleaning the tubes. Im
worried that if i try to clean them with wet cloth, the coating would
wash away too. Any suggestions on what should i do, please?

--


The coating should be removable in hot water, but not by cleaning gently 
with a damp cloth.


If the coating is delicate enough that it can be removed by rubbing 
gently with a damp cloth, then it is too delicate to survive everyday 
use. In that case, make the tubes clear and be done with it.



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[neonixie-l] How to clean dusted tubes with coating?

[kay486]

Hi there, 
i just got few ZM1040 tubes that have never been used, the thing is that 
they were laying around for id say 20 years without box or anything and now 
they are really dusted. The thing is that they still have good coating 
under the dust, wich is pretty rare on tesla tubes, since tesla had the 
least resistant red coating (based on what i saw) Thats why id liketo ask 
you is you have any experience with cleaning the tubes. Im worried that if 
i try to clean them with wet cloth, the coating would wash away too. Any 
suggestions on what should i do, please?

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch case update

[Josh]

I apologize, my comment was rude and uncalled for. 

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch case update

[Nick]

On Wednesday, 7 November 2012 17:24:43 UTC, Lucky wrote:

>
> On Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:13:10 UTC, yuckymucky wrote:I like the 
> new design, kinda glad I held off on getting one of the originals as I will 
> most certainly be getting one of your new designs. Already have the money 
> stashed away.
>
>  
>
>>
>> Really? You check your watch every 7 minutes during waking hours? 
>>
>> You are either obsessed with time, or with your watch. 
>>
>
> Or himself.
>
> Wow not a very polite suggestion! Verging on the down right rude if you 
> ask me.
>

Indeed - enough of that, thank you.
 
I like the new round case - I have one of the prototypes of the original 
(before they had serial numbers), but would like to change as the prototype 
case doesn't close that well (!! after all, it is a prototype!).

Will there be an "upgrade path"?

Nick

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch case update

[J Forbes]

On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 10:24:43 AM UTC-7, Lucky wrote:
>
>
> Regardless, on viewing amount/times, as I understand it you have a tilt 
> sensor to enable the tubes at a set angle but will not the tubes also 
> ignite during normal everyday wearing? For instance my arm right now as I 
> type is at the ideal viewing angle, I can also imagine many times when my 
> arm would be at this angle, so is the watch going to be turning on 
> regularly or what stops that from happening? (I can envisage the 'hundreds 
> of times' scenario if no safeguards in place)
>

I guess you don't have one of David's watches? The "ideal viewing angle" 
probably isn't what you expect it to bethe watch is designed so that 
you move it so it's "flat" then roll your wrist so the top of the watch 
moves toward your head. Hard to explain...watch the video and see how it 
works.  I like to set the angle so it's closer to 90 degrees, than the 
suggested 45 degrees.

It really does work, in normal use the watch does not turn on too often. I 
almost always get more than 6 months out of a CR2 battery. 

The new rechargeable watch will be fun to see how the battery lasts...I 
plan to charge it weekly, and see how it does. Recommended charge interval 
is three weeks, which is probably hard to remember.

Jim Forbes 

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch case update

[Lucky]

On Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:13:10 UTC, yuckymucky wrote:I like the new 
design, kinda glad I held off on getting one of the originals as I will 
most certainly be getting one of your new designs. Already have the money 
stashed away.

 

>
> Really? You check your watch every 7 minutes during waking hours? 
>
> You are either obsessed with time, or with your watch. 
>

Or himself.

Wow not a very polite suggestion! Verging on the down right rude if you ask 
me.

Regardless, on viewing amount/times, as I understand it you have a tilt 
sensor to enable the tubes at a set angle but will not the tubes also 
ignite during normal everyday wearing? For instance my arm right now as I 
type is at the ideal viewing angle, I can also imagine many times when my 
arm would be at this angle, so is the watch going to be turning on 
regularly or what stops that from happening? (I can envisage the 'hundreds 
of times' scenario if no safeguards in place)

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch case update

[yuckymucky]

I like the new design, kinda glad I held off on getting one of the 
originals as I will most certainly be getting one of your new designs. 
Already have the money stashed away.

 

>
> Really? You check your watch every 7 minutes during waking hours? 
>
> You are either obsessed with time, or with your watch. 
>

Or himself. 

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[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch case update

[Terry S]

> I
> think that the average time readings of 50 per day is not really a
> good number, it is closer to 125 on average.
>

Really? You check your watch every 7 minutes during waking hours?

You are either obsessed with time, or with your watch.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: My first two-digit Nixie tube!

[AndrakondrA (Daniil)]

>John
Congratulations on first light!  
Are you considering gettering or gas fill for sealed-off ones? 

Thank you very much!
Have a problem, for now at least, to get both of them. When I get them I 
will try all options.

>Jens 
I am so busy at the moment with university stuff that I cannot focus too 
much on Nixie tube making...

:) Same thing exactly! :(

>Jens 
What is your next step, Daniil? 


Before I move to make nixies I want to play with incandescent lamps for 
some time.
And try to make something like this (pic). 

Dan.



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