[neonixie-l] Re: low power nixie tubes?

2012-11-27 Thread bryan
Nick,

Thanks for giving me details about numitron tubes and nixie tubes work. 

Bryan



On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 12:28:32 AM UTC-6, Nick wrote:


 On Monday, 26 November 2012 19:59:12 UTC, bryan wrote:

 Just curious to see if anyone from this group knows if there are any low 
 power nixie tubes like IV-9 Numitron tubes that only needs 1V-12V? Not more 
 than 100V?


 Hi - IV-9s are not nixies - they are numitrons which have incandescent 
 filaments like old light bulbs - a completely different technology. They 
 operate off 4.5V taking about 19mA per segment.

 The technology in nixies requires the gas in the tube to ionise to get 
 that orange glow round the shaped cathodes - there are basic constraints 
 laid down by laws of physics that determine the energy required to do this, 
 thus the voltage that is required to start ionisation. The voltage at which 
 ionisation starts (the striking voltage) is typically around 160 to 180VDC; 
 once struck, they maintain at a lower voltage (e.g. 120VDC) - the striking 
 voltage for a given tube is determined by physical factors such as gas mix 
 in the tube, pressure, presence of ionising radiation etc.

 All nixies work this way which is why we use step-up (boost) converters to 
 change low voltages up to typically around 180VDC.

 Nick


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[neonixie-l] Re: 5BP1 CRT

2012-11-27 Thread Terry S
Interesting offer -- now the dilemma -- do I open the box and test the
tube, or leave it in the box untested, where it is perhaps worth more
to a collector?

I'm really interested in building a scope clock with the tube. Trying
to find a kit I like is the problem.

Any recommendations?

Terry

On Nov 25, 3:39 pm, threeneurons threeneur...@yahoo.com wrote:
 No, I have 2 5BP4s (white phosphor), and they are rather large animals. I
 don't know what I'm going to do with mine either. On top of that I also
 have 2 5UP1s.

 But, I did make a little tube checker, to at least, light them up, and do
 rough deflection tests.

 http://threeneurons.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/crt_tst01.jpg

 It doesn't have a socket, but individual socket pins, so it can be hooked
 up to just about any electrostatically deflected tube, that can be lit up
 with ~1700V. The 5BP1 can be operated at 1500V. The tester is small, so if
 you're interested I could loan it to you.


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[neonixie-l] Re: Help needed to design Swithmode step-up converter, this time not so Nixie-related

2012-11-27 Thread MrNixie (UK)
BARBEQUE?? That came out of my fingers as Because...

On Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:30:50 UTC, MrNixie (UK) wrote:


 Hmm, I think you need to give us a bit more info - your proposed circuit, 
 supply voltage, etc. The mosfet and inductor won't complain much at 100C, 
 but your LEDs might start to! And any electrolytic caps wont be winning any 
 Long Service awards at those temperatures... Is the Mosfet running at this 
 temp barbecue it is dissipating power, or is just in a hot place to begin 
 with?

 Make sure you are indeed switching the Mosfet cleanly - check the Vgs 
 curves in the spec sheet. Remember that at high frequencies, the gate of a 
 mosfet just looks like a capacitor - you really have to DRIVE current in to 
 it - are you relying solely on the output of the SMPS IC?

 Re series and parallel LED combinations - general rule of thumb is to 
 arrange your LED load closest to the supply voltage, so that your SMPS is 
 not having to step up or down too far from the supply rail, in either 
 direction. You will see losses if you go for a very low voltage but high 
 current output, or vice-versa

 My two milliamps' worth -


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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Help needed to design Swithmode step-up converter, this time not so Nixie-related

2012-11-27 Thread John Rehwinkel
 Is the Mosfet running at this temp barbecue it is dissipating power, or is 
 just in a hot place to begin with?

Reminds me of a license plate I saw a while back reading PNP BBQ:

http://www.vitriol.com/images/humour/PNPBBQ.jpg

- John

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[neonixie-l] Re: IN-9's for sale

2012-11-27 Thread Dan Foster
$1.25 per tube, any quantity. Shipping is a USPS padded flat rate envelope. 
$5.30 inside US,  $12.95 to Canada or Mexico, and $16.95 to any other country. 

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[neonixie-l] Re: low power nixie tubes?

2012-11-27 Thread Terry Kennedy
On Nov 27, 5:22 am, bryan bryan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for giving me details about numitron tubes and nixie tubes work.

You might also want to look at VFD's. These require a low filament
voltage (usually 1.2V to 5V) and a slightly higher voltage to activate
the segments - something like 20V to 35V. These tubes range in size
from fingernail to soda-can size, and even the largest can be tested
with just a few batteries, like 3 9V batteries in series, as well as
whatever is needed for the filament.

Here's one of the larger types: 
http://www.decadecounter.com/vta/articleview.php?item=1071

And if you want something truly bizarre and high-voltage, there are
devices like the ITS1A, which uses 50V, 100V, and -300V supplies, but
the segments are directly controllable with TTL logic!

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