Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread Dalibor Farný
Nice, this is good idea!

There is actually not problem with money (to go on kickstarter), but
with information that is very difficult to obtain..

For example I solve a problem with the matte gray metal sheet what is
used for the back of the nixie tubes - it is not shiny but matte to
improve the readability of the tube. Is there anyone who knows what it
is? I have some information that it is "PN or P2 sheet", an aluminum
plated steel sheet annealed in vacuum.. But where to get it or how to
make it?

I am afraid that kickstarter wont solve that problem unless You can
pay someone who knows it ;-)

Dalibor

2013/5/9 Matt :
> It would be nice to see larger tubes put on Kickstarter or Indiegogo so that
> more people can enjoy them.
>
> Also, it would be nice to see other designs made.  For example, lasermad.com
> has an induction powered nixie chess set that uses existing symbols for
> chess pieces, but how awesome would it be to have the actual chess shapes as
> in this rendering?
>
> http://nxt.flamingo3d.com/photo/nixie-chess-set?context=latest
>
> (I am not affiliated with anything mentioned, attached, or linked above)
>
>
> On 05/08/2013 06:18 PM, Adam Jacobs wrote:
>>
>> There definitely has to be a very limited sort of customer base for an
>> auction such as this one.
>>
>> Kind of reminds me of the Polaroid film "Impossible Project" people.. They
>> bought the old factory, all of the equipment, and even hired back a ton of
>> the employees. I'm still floored that there is enough of a niche customer
>> base for that business to stay afloat.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>> On 5/8/2013 3:15 PM, Nicholas Stock wrote:
>>>
>>> Take a look at the question and answer section of the listing...the
>>> seller does say that the stamps for the bases are included.with pins
>>>
>>> This listing has been going for a while now...he's had a few offers that
>>> he's declined by the looks of it too..
>>>
>>> Nick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:59 PM, kay486 >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> The tins contain getters actually. But the thing is that most likely
>>> they wouldnt be working by now. Also the most important
>>> thing that is missing there are the tube bases with the metal to
>>> glass seals. You can easily etch the anode grid and
>>> cathodes. But you wouldnt be able to make the bases.
>>> All in all, there is no wa you would make money on that. It would be
>>> just an interesting project to work on.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:50:22 UTC+1, bani wrote:
>>>
>>> What's in the tins?
>>>
>>> I don't see these in the pics:
>>> * grid meshes
>>> * digit wire
>>> * getters
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
>>> On Wed, 8 May 2013, dr pepper wrote:
>>>
>>> > Looking at it you'd also need a air compressor and a power
>>> press for
>>> > the press tooling.
>>> >
>>> > A visit to the seller would be a good idea to see what is
>>> included.
>>> >
>>> > Setting up producing those tubes might be profitable, however
>>> > allthough not absolutely necessary you'd really need to speak
>>> to one
>>> > of the setters or production workers that ran the original
>>> production
>>> > line, so you'd need to speak russian.
>>> >
>>> > On 6 May, 11:23, Zedsquared  wrote:
>>> >> This is interesting!
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261172534593
>>> >>
>>> >> I've not got the cash or inclination to buy but would love to
>>> hear what
>>> >> people make of this, it's a great insight into what goes on in
>>> manufacture.
>>> >> Does anyone know what the green machine with flames does?
>>> >> What's in the cans? (I'd guess getter compound maybe ).
>>> >> Looking at the Q&A so far it implies that the digits have to
>>> be made with
>>> >> the supplied "know how" ... photo etching techniques and
>>> recipies perhaps?
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> � � � �Robin.
>>> >>
>>> >> P.S. � �I guess I should introduce myself :) Hi, I'm Robin
>>> from the UK, a
>>>
>>> >> software and hardware computer guy with a nascent ebay nixie
>>> acquisition
>>> >> habit but only a few breadboard rigs actually built yet.
>>> Here's "hello
>>> >> world" from my first PIC and nixie setup:
>>> �https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqxDZUYhl2s
>>>
>>> >> Day job is R&D at a company fitting out emergency service
>>> command and
>>> >> control vehicles with tech, weekend job is pyrotechnician with
>>> skyburst.
>>> >> I'm currently spending most of my time in bed with a laptop
>>> due to a broken
>>> >> ankle, bah!
>>> >
>>>
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread Matt

It would be nice to see larger tubes put on Kickstarter or Indiegogo so that 
more people can enjoy them.

Also, it would be nice to see other designs made.  For example, lasermad.com has an induction powered nixie chess set that uses 
existing symbols for chess pieces, but how awesome would it be to have the actual chess shapes as in this rendering?


http://nxt.flamingo3d.com/photo/nixie-chess-set?context=latest

(I am not affiliated with anything mentioned, attached, or linked above)

On 05/08/2013 06:18 PM, Adam Jacobs wrote:

There definitely has to be a very limited sort of customer base for an auction 
such as this one.

Kind of reminds me of the Polaroid film "Impossible Project" people.. They bought the old factory, all of the equipment, and even 
hired back a ton of the employees. I'm still floored that there is enough of a niche customer base for that business to stay afloat.


-Adam

On 5/8/2013 3:15 PM, Nicholas Stock wrote:
Take a look at the question and answer section of the listing...the seller does say that the stamps for the bases are 
included.with pins


This listing has been going for a while now...he's had a few offers that he's 
declined by the looks of it too..

Nick


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:59 PM, kay486 mailto:luckyl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The tins contain getters actually. But the thing is that most likely they 
wouldnt be working by now. Also the most important
thing that is missing there are the tube bases with the metal to glass 
seals. You can easily etch the anode grid and
cathodes. But you wouldnt be able to make the bases.
All in all, there is no wa you would make money on that. It would be just 
an interesting project to work on.

On Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:50:22 UTC+1, bani wrote:

What's in the tins?

I don't see these in the pics:
* grid meshes
* digit wire
* getters

-Dan

On Wed, 8 May 2013, dr pepper wrote:

> Looking at it you'd also need a air compressor and a power press for
> the press tooling.
>
> A visit to the seller would be a good idea to see what is included.
>
> Setting up producing those tubes might be profitable, however
> allthough not absolutely necessary you'd really need to speak to one
> of the setters or production workers that ran the original production
> line, so you'd need to speak russian.
>
> On 6 May, 11:23, Zedsquared  wrote:
>> This is interesting!
>>
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261172534593
>>
>> I've not got the cash or inclination to buy but would love to hear 
what
>> people make of this, it's a great insight into what goes on in 
manufacture.
>> Does anyone know what the green machine with flames does?
>> What's in the cans? (I'd guess getter compound maybe ).
>> Looking at the Q&A so far it implies that the digits have to be made 
with
>> the supplied "know how" ... photo etching techniques and recipies 
perhaps?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> � � � �Robin.
>>
>> P.S. � �I guess I should introduce myself :) Hi, I'm Robin from the 
UK, a
>> software and hardware computer guy with a nascent ebay nixie 
acquisition
>> habit but only a few breadboard rigs actually built yet. Here's 
"hello
>> world" from my first PIC and nixie setup: 
�https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqxDZUYhl2s
>> Day job is R&D at a company fitting out emergency service command and
>> control vehicles with tech, weekend job is pyrotechnician with 
skyburst.
>> I'm currently spending most of my time in bed with a laptop due to a 
broken
>> ankle, bah!
>





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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread Dalibor Farný
The seller describes the auction as a complete factory for producing
the IN-18 tubes, but actually it is just a pile of junk. The most
critical parts as stems (pin bases) arent there, digits are just in a
form of "know-how" and so.. Even he has the stamps for the pin bases
it would be a real deal to get the stuff working. You can see the real
production of stems here: http://youtu.be/GDvF89Bh27Y?t=21m15s
Does the seller provide also such a automatic machine working with the stamps?

Also the neon filling station would be difficult to build, especially
if it should be automatic..

I would be personally interested in getters and those ceramic bead
insulators, all other has almost no value. I think it could make sense
for anyone looking to start a crazy project (as the polaroid film
mentioned by Adam Jacobs), but in this case the price would have to
lowered to somewhere $2-3.000.

IN-18 isnt a tube worth recovering the original factory ;-) z568m or
something would be much better!

By the way, I am almost prepared to produce some tube samples.. I am
building the garden shed to accomodate all my stuff and then I will
put all parts together! The last progress I made are etched digits:
http://dalibor.farny.cz/another-update-digits-for-nixie-tubes/
Some interesting blog posts are to come soon!

Guess what kind of nixie am I going to replicate? ;-)

Sorry for self-promo!

Dalibor

2013/5/9 Instrument Resources of America :
> Wasn't this exact same lot up for sale just a few months back??  Ira.
>
>
>
> On 5/8/2013 3:15 PM, Nicholas Stock wrote:
>
> Take a look at the question and answer section of the listing...the seller
> does say that the stamps for the bases are included.with pins
>
> This listing has been going for a while now...he's had a few offers that
> he's declined by the looks of it too..
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:59 PM, kay486  wrote:
>>
>> The tins contain getters actually. But the thing is that most likely they
>> wouldnt be working by now. Also the most important thing that is missing
>> there are the tube bases with the metal to glass seals. You can easily etch
>> the anode grid and cathodes. But you wouldnt be able to make the bases.
>> All in all, there is no wa you would make money on that. It would be just
>> an interesting project to work on.
>>
>> On Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:50:22 UTC+1, bani wrote:
>>>
>>> What's in the tins?
>>>
>>> I don't see these in the pics:
>>> * grid meshes
>>> * digit wire
>>> * getters
>>>
>>> -Dan
>>>
>>> On Wed, 8 May 2013, dr pepper wrote:
>>>
>>> > Looking at it you'd also need a air compressor and a power press for
>>> > the press tooling.
>>> >
>>> > A visit to the seller would be a good idea to see what is included.
>>> >
>>> > Setting up producing those tubes might be profitable, however
>>> > allthough not absolutely necessary you'd really need to speak to one
>>> > of the setters or production workers that ran the original production
>>> > line, so you'd need to speak russian.
>>> >
>>> > On 6 May, 11:23, Zedsquared  wrote:
>>> >> This is interesting!
>>> >>
>>> >> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261172534593
>>> >>
>>> >> I've not got the cash or inclination to buy but would love to hear
>>> >> what
>>> >> people make of this, it's a great insight into what goes on in
>>> >> manufacture.
>>> >> Does anyone know what the green machine with flames does?
>>> >> What's in the cans? (I'd guess getter compound maybe ).
>>> >> Looking at the Q&A so far it implies that the digits have to be made
>>> >> with
>>> >> the supplied "know how" ... photo etching techniques and recipies
>>> >> perhaps?
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> � � � �Robin.
>>> >>
>>> >> P.S. � �I guess I should introduce myself :) Hi, I'm Robin from
>>> >> the UK, a
>>> >> software and hardware computer guy with a nascent ebay nixie
>>> >> acquisition
>>> >> habit but only a few breadboard rigs actually built yet. Here's "hello
>>> >> world" from my first PIC and nixie setup:
>>> >> �https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqxDZUYhl2s
>>> >> Day job is R&D at a company fitting out emergency service command and
>>> >> control vehicles with tech, weekend job is pyrotechnician with
>>> >> skyburst.
>>> >> I'm currently spending most of my time in bed with a laptop due to a
>>> >> broken
>>> >> ankle, bah!
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread Instrument Resources of America

Wasn't this exact same lot up for sale just a few months back?? Ira.


On 5/8/2013 3:15 PM, Nicholas Stock wrote:
Take a look at the question and answer section of the listing...the 
seller does say that the stamps for the bases are included.with pins


This listing has been going for a while now...he's had a few offers 
that he's declined by the looks of it too..


Nick


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:59 PM, kay486 > wrote:


The tins contain getters actually. But the thing is that most
likely they wouldnt be working by now. Also the most important
thing that is missing there are the tube bases with the metal to
glass seals. You can easily etch the anode grid and cathodes. But
you wouldnt be able to make the bases.
All in all, there is no wa you would make money on that. It would
be just an interesting project to work on.

On Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:50:22 UTC+1, bani wrote:

What's in the tins?

I don't see these in the pics:
* grid meshes
* digit wire
* getters

-Dan

On Wed, 8 May 2013, dr pepper wrote:

> Looking at it you'd also need a air compressor and a power
press for
> the press tooling.
>
> A visit to the seller would be a good idea to see what is
included.
>
> Setting up producing those tubes might be profitable, however
> allthough not absolutely necessary you'd really need to
speak to one
> of the setters or production workers that ran the original
production
> line, so you'd need to speak russian.
>
> On 6 May, 11:23, Zedsquared  wrote:
>> This is interesting!
>>
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261172534593
>>
>> I've not got the cash or inclination to buy but would love
to hear what
>> people make of this, it's a great insight into what goes on
in manufacture.
>> Does anyone know what the green machine with flames does?
>> What's in the cans? (I'd guess getter compound maybe ).
>> Looking at the Q&A so far it implies that the digits have
to be made with
>> the supplied "know how" ... photo etching techniques and
recipies perhaps?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> � � � �Robin.
>>
>> P.S. � �I guess I should introduce myself :) Hi, I'm
Robin from the UK, a
>> software and hardware computer guy with a nascent ebay
nixie acquisition
>> habit but only a few breadboard rigs actually built yet.
Here's "hello
>> world" from my first PIC and nixie setup:
�https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqxDZUYhl2s
>> Day job is R&D at a company fitting out emergency service
command and
>> control vehicles with tech, weekend job is pyrotechnician
with skyburst.
>> I'm currently spending most of my time in bed with a laptop
due to a broken
>> ankle, bah!
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread Adam Jacobs
There definitely has to be a very limited sort of customer base for an 
auction such as this one.


Kind of reminds me of the Polaroid film "Impossible Project" people.. 
They bought the old factory, all of the equipment, and even hired back a 
ton of the employees. I'm still floored that there is enough of a niche 
customer base for that business to stay afloat.


-Adam

On 5/8/2013 3:15 PM, Nicholas Stock wrote:
Take a look at the question and answer section of the listing...the 
seller does say that the stamps for the bases are included.with pins


This listing has been going for a while now...he's had a few offers 
that he's declined by the looks of it too..


Nick


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:59 PM, kay486 > wrote:


The tins contain getters actually. But the thing is that most
likely they wouldnt be working by now. Also the most important
thing that is missing there are the tube bases with the metal to
glass seals. You can easily etch the anode grid and cathodes. But
you wouldnt be able to make the bases.
All in all, there is no wa you would make money on that. It would
be just an interesting project to work on.

On Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:50:22 UTC+1, bani wrote:

What's in the tins?

I don't see these in the pics:
* grid meshes
* digit wire
* getters

-Dan

On Wed, 8 May 2013, dr pepper wrote:

> Looking at it you'd also need a air compressor and a power
press for
> the press tooling.
>
> A visit to the seller would be a good idea to see what is
included.
>
> Setting up producing those tubes might be profitable, however
> allthough not absolutely necessary you'd really need to
speak to one
> of the setters or production workers that ran the original
production
> line, so you'd need to speak russian.
>
> On 6 May, 11:23, Zedsquared  wrote:
>> This is interesting!
>>
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261172534593
>>
>> I've not got the cash or inclination to buy but would love
to hear what
>> people make of this, it's a great insight into what goes on
in manufacture.
>> Does anyone know what the green machine with flames does?
>> What's in the cans? (I'd guess getter compound maybe ).
>> Looking at the Q&A so far it implies that the digits have
to be made with
>> the supplied "know how" ... photo etching techniques and
recipies perhaps?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> � � � �Robin.
>>
>> P.S. � �I guess I should introduce myself :) Hi, I'm
Robin from the UK, a
>> software and hardware computer guy with a nascent ebay
nixie acquisition
>> habit but only a few breadboard rigs actually built yet.
Here's "hello
>> world" from my first PIC and nixie setup:
�https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqxDZUYhl2s
>> Day job is R&D at a company fitting out emergency service
command and
>> control vehicles with tech, weekend job is pyrotechnician
with skyburst.
>> I'm currently spending most of my time in bed with a laptop
due to a broken
>> ankle, bah!
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread Nicholas Stock
Take a look at the question and answer section of the listing...the seller
does say that the stamps for the bases are included.with pins

This listing has been going for a while now...he's had a few offers that
he's declined by the looks of it too..

Nick


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:59 PM, kay486  wrote:

> The tins contain getters actually. But the thing is that most likely they
> wouldnt be working by now. Also the most important thing that is missing
> there are the tube bases with the metal to glass seals. You can easily etch
> the anode grid and cathodes. But you wouldnt be able to make the bases.
> All in all, there is no wa you would make money on that. It would be just
> an interesting project to work on.
>
> On Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:50:22 UTC+1, bani wrote:
>>
>> What's in the tins?
>>
>> I don't see these in the pics:
>> * grid meshes
>> * digit wire
>> * getters
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> On Wed, 8 May 2013, dr pepper wrote:
>>
>> > Looking at it you'd also need a air compressor and a power press for
>> > the press tooling.
>> >
>> > A visit to the seller would be a good idea to see what is included.
>> >
>> > Setting up producing those tubes might be profitable, however
>> > allthough not absolutely necessary you'd really need to speak to one
>> > of the setters or production workers that ran the original production
>> > line, so you'd need to speak russian.
>> >
>> > On 6 May, 11:23, Zedsquared  wrote:
>> >> This is interesting!
>> >>
>> >> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/**261172534593
>> >>
>> >> I've not got the cash or inclination to buy but would love to hear
>> what
>> >> people make of this, it's a great insight into what goes on in
>> manufacture.
>> >> Does anyone know what the green machine with flames does?
>> >> What's in the cans? (I'd guess getter compound maybe ).
>> >> Looking at the Q&A so far it implies that the digits have to be made
>> with
>> >> the supplied "know how" ... photo etching techniques and recipies
>> perhaps?
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> � � � �Robin.
>> >>
>> >> P.S. � �I guess I should introduce myself :) Hi, I'm Robin from
>> the UK, a
>> >> software and hardware computer guy with a nascent ebay nixie
>> acquisition
>> >> habit but only a few breadboard rigs actually built yet. Here's "hello
>> >> world" from my first PIC and nixie setup: �https://www.youtube.com/*
>> *watch?v=AqxDZUYhl2s 
>> >> Day job is R&D at a company fitting out emergency service command and
>> >> control vehicles with tech, weekend job is pyrotechnician with
>> skyburst.
>> >> I'm currently spending most of my time in bed with a laptop due to a
>> broken
>> >> ankle, bah!
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread kay486
The tins contain getters actually. But the thing is that most likely they 
wouldnt be working by now. Also the most important thing that is missing 
there are the tube bases with the metal to glass seals. You can easily etch 
the anode grid and cathodes. But you wouldnt be able to make the bases.
All in all, there is no wa you would make money on that. It would be just 
an interesting project to work on.

On Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:50:22 UTC+1, bani wrote:
>
> What's in the tins? 
>
> I don't see these in the pics: 
> * grid meshes 
> * digit wire 
> * getters 
>
> -Dan 
>
> On Wed, 8 May 2013, dr pepper wrote: 
>
> > Looking at it you'd also need a air compressor and a power press for 
> > the press tooling. 
> > 
> > A visit to the seller would be a good idea to see what is included. 
> > 
> > Setting up producing those tubes might be profitable, however 
> > allthough not absolutely necessary you'd really need to speak to one 
> > of the setters or production workers that ran the original production 
> > line, so you'd need to speak russian. 
> > 
> > On 6 May, 11:23, Zedsquared  wrote: 
> >> This is interesting! 
> >> 
> >> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261172534593 
> >> 
> >> I've not got the cash or inclination to buy but would love to hear what 
> >> people make of this, it's a great insight into what goes on in 
> manufacture. 
> >> Does anyone know what the green machine with flames does? 
> >> What's in the cans? (I'd guess getter compound maybe ). 
> >> Looking at the Q&A so far it implies that the digits have to be made 
> with 
> >> the supplied "know how" ... photo etching techniques and recipies 
> perhaps? 
> >> 
> >> Cheers, 
> >> � � � �Robin. 
> >> 
> >> P.S. � �I guess I should introduce myself :) Hi, I'm Robin from the 
> UK, a 
> >> software and hardware computer guy with a nascent ebay nixie 
> acquisition 
> >> habit but only a few breadboard rigs actually built yet. Here's "hello 
> >> world" from my first PIC and nixie setup: �
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqxDZUYhl2s 
> >> Day job is R&D at a company fitting out emergency service command and 
> >> control vehicles with tech, weekend job is pyrotechnician with 
> skyburst. 
> >> I'm currently spending most of my time in bed with a laptop due to a 
> broken 
> >> ankle, bah! 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread Dan Hollis

What's in the tins?

I don't see these in the pics:
* grid meshes
* digit wire
* getters

-Dan

On Wed, 8 May 2013, dr pepper wrote:


Looking at it you'd also need a air compressor and a power press for
the press tooling.

A visit to the seller would be a good idea to see what is included.

Setting up producing those tubes might be profitable, however
allthough not absolutely necessary you'd really need to speak to one
of the setters or production workers that ran the original production
line, so you'd need to speak russian.

On 6 May, 11:23, Zedsquared  wrote:

This is interesting!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261172534593

I've not got the cash or inclination to buy but would love to hear what
people make of this, it's a great insight into what goes on in manufacture.
Does anyone know what the green machine with flames does?
What's in the cans? (I'd guess getter compound maybe ).
Looking at the Q&A so far it implies that the digits have to be made with
the supplied "know how" ... photo etching techniques and recipies perhaps?

Cheers,
       Robin.

P.S.    I guess I should introduce myself :) Hi, I'm Robin from the UK, a
software and hardware computer guy with a nascent ebay nixie acquisition
habit but only a few breadboard rigs actually built yet. Here's "hello
world" from my first PIC and nixie setup:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqxDZUYhl2s
Day job is R&D at a company fitting out emergency service command and
control vehicles with tech, weekend job is pyrotechnician with skyburst.
I'm currently spending most of my time in bed with a laptop due to a broken
ankle, bah!


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[neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread dr pepper
Looking at it you'd also need a air compressor and a power press for
the press tooling.

A visit to the seller would be a good idea to see what is included.

Setting up producing those tubes might be profitable, however
allthough not absolutely necessary you'd really need to speak to one
of the setters or production workers that ran the original production
line, so you'd need to speak russian.

On 6 May, 11:23, Zedsquared  wrote:
> This is interesting!
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261172534593
>
> I've not got the cash or inclination to buy but would love to hear what
> people make of this, it's a great insight into what goes on in manufacture.
> Does anyone know what the green machine with flames does?
> What's in the cans? (I'd guess getter compound maybe ).
> Looking at the Q&A so far it implies that the digits have to be made with
> the supplied "know how" ... photo etching techniques and recipies perhaps?
>
> Cheers,
>        Robin.
>
> P.S.    I guess I should introduce myself :) Hi, I'm Robin from the UK, a
> software and hardware computer guy with a nascent ebay nixie acquisition
> habit but only a few breadboard rigs actually built yet. Here's "hello
> world" from my first PIC and nixie setup:  
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqxDZUYhl2s
> Day job is R&D at a company fitting out emergency service command and
> control vehicles with tech, weekend job is pyrotechnician with skyburst.
> I'm currently spending most of my time in bed with a laptop due to a broken
> ankle, bah!

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[neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread dr pepper
Sorry I'll correct one of my statements, I didnt mean to say empty
boxes, I meant sealed up boxes, so you cant actually see what your
getting.

On 8 May, 22:21, dr pepper  wrote:
> A very interesting ebay item there.
>
> You'd also need an air compressor and a power press to suit the
> tooling.
>
> I think the machine with the flame torches is for assembling the base
> and tube sections of the nixies, maybe someone here knows more about
> the prod side of things.
>
> Not everything you need is mentioned and a lot of the pics are empty
> boxes so you'd need to go and have a look at the kit, there could be a
> load missing, preferrably with someone who knows the process, which is
> rare now.
>
> Its quite possible the seller doesnt know much about the tubes, its
> just some factory clearance bloke or someone who worked in a russian
> nixie production plant and ended up with some stuff heading for the
> skip.
>
> Those tubes fetch a few quid, so if you did get all the special
> tooling and everything setup right it might be worth while, however
> I'd expect without one of the setters or knowledgeable production
> people to help you it'd be a bit of a long haul.
>
> On 6 May, 11:23, Zedsquared  wrote:
>
>
>
> > This is interesting!
>
> >http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261172534593
>
> > I've not got the cash or inclination to buy but would love to hear what
> > people make of this, it's a great insight into what goes on in manufacture.
> > Does anyone know what the green machine with flames does?
> > What's in the cans? (I'd guess getter compound maybe ).
> > Looking at the Q&A so far it implies that the digits have to be made with
> > the supplied "know how" ... photo etching techniques and recipies perhaps?
>
> > Cheers,
> >        Robin.
>
> > P.S.    I guess I should introduce myself :) Hi, I'm Robin from the UK, a
> > software and hardware computer guy with a nascent ebay nixie acquisition
> > habit but only a few breadboard rigs actually built yet. Here's "hello
> > world" from my first PIC and nixie setup:  
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqxDZUYhl2s
> > Day job is R&D at a company fitting out emergency service command and
> > control vehicles with tech, weekend job is pyrotechnician with skyburst.
> > I'm currently spending most of my time in bed with a laptop due to a broken
> > ankle, bah!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread dr pepper
A very interesting ebay item there.

You'd also need an air compressor and a power press to suit the
tooling.

I think the machine with the flame torches is for assembling the base
and tube sections of the nixies, maybe someone here knows more about
the prod side of things.

Not everything you need is mentioned and a lot of the pics are empty
boxes so you'd need to go and have a look at the kit, there could be a
load missing, preferrably with someone who knows the process, which is
rare now.

Its quite possible the seller doesnt know much about the tubes, its
just some factory clearance bloke or someone who worked in a russian
nixie production plant and ended up with some stuff heading for the
skip.

Those tubes fetch a few quid, so if you did get all the special
tooling and everything setup right it might be worth while, however
I'd expect without one of the setters or knowledgeable production
people to help you it'd be a bit of a long haul.

On 6 May, 11:23, Zedsquared  wrote:
> This is interesting!
>
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261172534593
>
> I've not got the cash or inclination to buy but would love to hear what
> people make of this, it's a great insight into what goes on in manufacture.
> Does anyone know what the green machine with flames does?
> What's in the cans? (I'd guess getter compound maybe ).
> Looking at the Q&A so far it implies that the digits have to be made with
> the supplied "know how" ... photo etching techniques and recipies perhaps?
>
> Cheers,
>        Robin.
>
> P.S.    I guess I should introduce myself :) Hi, I'm Robin from the UK, a
> software and hardware computer guy with a nascent ebay nixie acquisition
> habit but only a few breadboard rigs actually built yet. Here's "hello
> world" from my first PIC and nixie setup:  
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqxDZUYhl2s
> Day job is R&D at a company fitting out emergency service command and
> control vehicles with tech, weekend job is pyrotechnician with skyburst.
> I'm currently spending most of my time in bed with a laptop due to a broken
> ankle, bah!

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Re: [neonixie-l] Six CD 47 / GR 414 Nixies on eBay - what price will it fetch?

2013-05-08 Thread Wayne de Geere
Want. I have the dough, too. Just need a clock partner to get a monster clock 
running.

Sent from my iDevice

On May 8, 2013, at 11:25, Dekatron42  wrote:

> Nice auction: 
> http://www.ebay.de/itm/Extrem-selten-Rundfunk-Studio-Nixie-Uhr-mit-CD-47-GR-414-/350790354531?pt=R%C3%B6hren&hash=item51acbc0663
>  but what price will it fetch?
>  
> No connection to seller and not enough money to buy :(
>  
> /Martin
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[neonixie-l] Re: Six CD 47 / GR 414 Nixies on eBay - what price will it fetch?

2013-05-08 Thread dr pepper
At the price they are and the fact they are 'untested' I'd stay well
clear, why are they for sale untested?
With a clock circuit bunged in all working the unit would probably be
quite valuable.

On 8 May, 20:17, kay486  wrote:
> Exactly, i can not imagine how sky high the price will be. Curious thing is
> that they are untested.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 8 May 2013 19:25:01 UTC+1, Dekatron42 wrote:
>
> > Nice auction:
> >http://www.ebay.de/itm/Extrem-selten-Rundfunk-Studio-Nixie-Uhr-mit-CD...but
> > what price will it fetch?
>
> > No connection to seller and not enough money to buy :(
>
> > /Martin- Hide quoted text -
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[neonixie-l] Re: Six CD 47 / GR 414 Nixies on eBay - what price will it fetch?

2013-05-08 Thread kay486
Exactly, i can not imagine how sky high the price will be. Curious thing is 
that they are untested.

On Wednesday, 8 May 2013 19:25:01 UTC+1, Dekatron42 wrote:
>
> Nice auction: 
> http://www.ebay.de/itm/Extrem-selten-Rundfunk-Studio-Nixie-Uhr-mit-CD-47-GR-414-/350790354531?pt=R%C3%B6hren&hash=item51acbc0663
>  but 
> what price will it fetch?
>  
> No connection to seller and not enough money to buy :(
>  
> /Martin
>

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[neonixie-l] Six CD 47 / GR 414 Nixies on eBay - what price will it fetch?

2013-05-08 Thread Dekatron42
Nice auction: 
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Extrem-selten-Rundfunk-Studio-Nixie-Uhr-mit-CD-47-GR-414-/350790354531?pt=R%C3%B6hren&hash=item51acbc0663
 but 
what price will it fetch?
 
No connection to seller and not enough money to buy :(
 
/Martin

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