Re: [neonixie-l] Finished restoring a TIMEON 2000, motor driven Nixie clock from 1968!
Not a lot of people know this, but there's a 12 position version of those pinball score units. They were made by Bally and used in their multiplier slot machines for dividing by three and four. The ones I've seen didn't have numbers printed on them so it would be easy to do 0-5 twice On Sunday, February 2, 2014 3:16:41 AM UTC-8, Nixcited delighted wrote: I like it too, in its infinite clunkiness. Well done for restoring it. I venture to suggest one looks for some nice relay-driven pinball reels, often called decagon units. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3914d576-a430-4419-bf08-c9b7d1f08756%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[neonixie-l] 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers
Check out auction 350987319019. It appears to be partial analog computers made by Hickok that simulate Ford vehicles. Most likely solid state but check out the card readers. They look like cardmatic tube tester card readers. So maybe you could simulate the suspension on a Pinto and test a 6L6 on the same machine! Standard disclaimer, not my auction etc. Tim Laing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7f58ef4f914c3a0787968f39fb5e12cf.squirrel%40webmail.wcoil.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[neonixie-l] Re: 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers
I should have added these are on E-bay. Check out auction 350987319019. It appears to be partial analog computers made by Hickok that simulate Ford vehicles. Most likely solid state but check out the card readers. They look like cardmatic tube tester card readers. So maybe you could simulate the suspension on a Pinto and test a 6L6 on the same machine! Standard disclaimer, not my auction etc. Tim Laing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/d0ed6d4e2bc617059fc1202fd0e843ea.squirrel%40webmail.wcoil.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[neonixie-l] Re: 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers
Fantastic... boat anchors! What on Earth would you do with them? They're missing all the external sensors etc. Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9bb06355-54c1-4e2e-94a4-a4c264a951d4%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers
Your on to something Tim. Look at all the time one could save. I didn't know that Hickok was into auto testing equipment but looks that way. Too bad there's not a date on those. Would be interesting to know when they were used. Can only imagine what's inside. On Monday, February 3, 2014 9:40 PM, lai...@wcoil.com lai...@wcoil.com wrote: I should have added these are on E-bay. Check out auction 350987319019. It appears to be partial analog computers made by Hickok that simulate Ford vehicles. Most likely solid state but check out the card readers. They look like cardmatic tube tester card readers. So maybe you could simulate the suspension on a Pinto and test a 6L6 on the same machine! Standard disclaimer, not my auction etc. Tim Laing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/d0ed6d4e2bc617059fc1202fd0e843ea.squirrel%40webmail.wcoil.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1391439236.85956.YahooMailNeo%40web160801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[neonixie-l] Re: 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers
Nick, I don't think there are any external sensors. These units are analog simulators. They probably had a big set of patch panels that allowed wiring the various analog elements to simulate a cars suspension system etc. using the various log, sine and cosine etc circuits. You would simulate a shock and spring using caps resistors and the various amplifiers and oscillators. At least that is my limited impression of these things. I saw a much larger version of these analog computers that was used for airframe testing/design. Boeing donated one to Ohio Northern Universitie's Engineering dept. It was still in a room when I was going to college in the early 80s. I was a faculty brat so I ran around the University all through my childhood so I knew the University from the late 60s to 1986. I never saw it used for anything in all those years though. I remember a huge section of patch panels with hundreds of jumpers going all over the place. At one time analog computers were much more powerful and faster than any digital computers for doing complicated simulations of physical systems. Tim L. Fantastic... boat anchors! What on Earth would you do with them? They're missing all the external sensors etc. Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/03bb612b0715b98194b6193011ad6dda.squirrel%40webmail.wcoil.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[neonixie-l] Re: [TCA] Re: 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers
Nick, I don't think there are any external sensors. These units are analog simulators. They probably had a big set of patch panels that allowed wiring the various analog elements to simulate a cars suspension system etc. using the various log, sine and cosine etc circuits. You would simulate a shock and spring using caps resistors and the various amplifiers and oscillators. At least that is my limited impression of these things. I saw a much larger version of these analog computers that was used for airframe testing/design. Boeing donated one to Ohio Northern Universitie's Engineering dept. It was still in a room when I was going to college in the early 80s. I was a faculty brat so I ran around the University all through my childhood so I knew the University from the late 60s to 1986. I never saw it used for anything in all those years though. I remember a huge section of patch panels with hundreds of jumpers going all over the place. At one time analog computers were much more powerful and faster than any digital computers for doing complicated simulations of physical systems. I don't know very much more about analog computers. Tim L. Fantastic... boat anchors! What on Earth would you do with them? They're missing all the external sensors etc. Nick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/48488309bf1b25f5fa0e18b098395911.squirrel%40webmail.wcoil.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers
We had an analog computer at the Sequoyah Nuclear plant that simulated reactor core dynamics. It had several banks of Nixie tube readouts, several strip chart recorders, probably 75 precision 10-turn pots with vernier dials and a big patch board. The patch board allowed different sections to be patched together - programmed - for different simulations. It was a quick-release affair so that several could be kept pre-programmed. There are no sensors. The unit is programmed with a set of initial conditions, on this unit using punch cards, and then started. The only things missing from these units are the patch cables - and the thick instruction manual on how to set them up. What is interesting is that Sequoyah now has a mainframe dedicated to calculating core dynamics - what a desktop analog computer could do faster. John On 02/03/2014 09:55 AM, Nick wrote: Fantastic... boat anchors! What on Earth would you do with them? They're missing all the external sensors etc. Nick -- John DeArmond Tellico Plains, Occupied TN http://www.fluxeon.com -- THE source for induction heaters http://www.neon-john.com-- email from here http://www.johndearmond.com -- Best damned Blog on the net PGP key: wwwkeys.pgp.net: BCB68D77 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/52EFCC6D.9060806%40neon-john.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[neonixie-l] Re: 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers
Here's the link to the eBay listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/350987319019 Hickok is still around. They've specialized in automotive, since 1984, but that doesn't mean that they didn't make any gear for that industry prior to that date. More likely, just left the general instrument market around that time. Here are some company history links: http://www.hickok-inc.com/about/hickok-company-profile.html http://www.hickok-inc.com/hickok100/hickok-history.pdf A link to some other old Hickok gear: http://www.stevenjohnson.com/hickok/ My first experience with Hickok, was some of the scopes used in high school: http://www.oldtestequipmentarchives.com/images/h/Hickok_670_Schuster.jpg They also had some Eico's, too: http://web.eecs.umich.edu/~srs/Antiques/misc/EICO_460.jpg In College, I got to use some analog computers. They where long obsolete, by then, but they were a convenient way to wire up circuits, so a few stuck around. Here's a site dedicated to them: http://www.cowardstereoview.com/analog/ And the EAI Model TR20 I used in school: http://www.cowardstereoview.com/analog/eaitr20.jpg On Monday, February 3, 2014 5:39:32 AM UTC-8, TLaing wrote: ... So maybe you could simulate the suspension on a Pinto and test a 6L6 on the same machine! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/89c98c65-55c6-4abb-a15f-b20d35748203%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers
Quoth lai...@wcoil.com at 2014-02-04 00:09 ... Check out auction 350987319019. It appears to be partial analog computers made by Hickok that simulate Ford vehicles. Most likely solid state but check out the card readers. They look like cardmatic tube tester card readers. So maybe you could simulate the suspension on a Pinto and test a 6L6 on the same machine! Standard disclaimer, not my auction etc. Tim Laing Oh, my. If I had the space and a squillion dollars for international shipping, I'd take 'em like a shot. John - any idea of what the Nixies in the Sequoyah were for? Voltmeters? Of particular interest, as I'm in the throes of designing a simple analogue computer. My only output devices are currently a pair of large, ex-Soviet, centre-zero microammeters wired as voltmeters (ie: pure analogue.) Had been wondering whether to include a digital voltmeters too. Whilst I'm actually building it for practical reasons, it WOULD look good with some neon on there. My biggest part of the design challenge is getting the cost of the patching down - even cheap banana jacks become expensive when you need hundreds! M -- Matthew Smith Business: http://www.smiffytech.com Blog: http://www.smiffysplace.com Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/smiffy Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/msmiffy Twitter: http://twitter.com/smiffy ABN 16 391 203 815 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/52EFEB57.8050208%40smiffytech.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers
On 02/03/2014 02:17 PM, Matthew Smith wrote: John - any idea of what the Nixies in the Sequoyah were for? Voltmeters? Yes, voltmeters. They could be jumpered into any part of the simulation circuitry. As I understand it, they were used primarily to set up the initial parameters more precisely than the verniers could. The outputs were all Brush pressurized ink strip-chart recorders. John -- John DeArmond Tellico Plains, Occupied TN http://www.fluxeon.com -- THE source for induction heaters http://www.neon-john.com-- email from here http://www.johndearmond.com -- Best damned Blog on the net PGP key: wwwkeys.pgp.net: BCB68D77 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/52EFEC58.4030806%40neon-john.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [neonixie-l] 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers
Check out auction 350987319019. It appears to be partial analog computers made by Hickok that simulate Ford vehicles. Oh, my. If I had the space and a squillion dollars for international shipping, I'd take 'em like a shot. I considered buying 'em for parts and art projects, but while I'd part with a couple hundred dollars for 'em, a couple hundred MORE for shipping makes it beyond the that would be nice to have category. Of particular interest, as I'm in the throes of designing a simple analogue computer. I've been considering doing the same. Op-amps are cheap and common these days, and it would be nice to build an analogue chaos machine (the original research on chaotic systems grew out of a weather simulator on a Systron-Donner analogue computer). My only output devices are currently a pair of large, ex-Soviet, centre-zero microammeters wired as voltmeters (ie: pure analogue.) Nice! I have a real fondness for big meters. Had been wondering whether to include a digital voltmeters too. Whilst I'm actually building it for practical reasons, it WOULD look good with some neon on there. Oh, you give me ideas! Maybe a couple of neon bar graph displays would work. An eye tube or two? And a nixie voltmeter would be an appropriate touch. My biggest part of the design challenge is getting the cost of the patching down - even cheap banana jacks become expensive when you need hundreds! Surplus is your friend. I bought a raft of banana jacks in assorted colours from a surplus vendor a while back. They're great for prototyping. And you're right about needing a lot of them, I looked at some of the analogue computers available on eBay, and the panels are just covered with them. - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/F44C8DDC-1788-4E4B-87FB-CE677F8397E8%40mac.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
