Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Itching to build...

[Dylan Distasio]

I'm interested.
On Feb 7, 2015 3:30 PM, "'Terry S' via neonixie-l" <
neonixie-l@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Ok, so I went ahead and started designed my own clock, borrowing heavily
> from an existing open source design.
>
> Here's what it entails. I have IN-18's and love those tubes, so naturally
> it uses them. I designed a main module that has the Arduino interface,
> power supply, control logic, 2 anode drivers, and 2 IN-18 tube socket
> footprints. At the end of that module there is a 20 pin connector to mate
> with a 2nd board I designed, identical in shape and size to the main
> module, but only has the 2 IN-18 socket footprints and the corresponding
> anode drivers. This slave module also has the 20 pin connector at far end.
>
> The result is that a clock can be configured using 1, 2, or 3 modules. If
> someone wanted, they could build a 2 digit clock (not sure why you would do
> that) or a 4 digit (my preference) or a 6 digit clock.
>
> I will be including provisions for under-tube LED lighting, even though I
> dislike it, and colons, which I do like. The colons will be controllable. I
> prefer a flashing colon on 4 digit clocks, and a static colon on 6 digit
> clocks.
>
> Since it's Arduino driven, the end user can do whatever he/she likes as
> far as timekeeping, (GPS, etc) features, etc. I will be producing a number
> of boards excess to my needs, so let me know if you are interested. I will
> NOT be supporting software that will be up to you. The board is
> designed such that the open-source software should work without
> modification, or with very little, for basic 4 or 6 digit clock
> functionality.
>
> The boards will have both thru-hole and surface mount parts. You will need
> to be able to solder your own SMT components.
>
> Any interest? As far as pricing, I'm only going to be looking to recover
> my blank board costs.
>
> Terry
>
> On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 10:09:35 AM UTC-6, Terry S wrote:
>
>> I know there's a plethora of IN-18 kits out there -- please tell me about
>> your favorite. I've got tubes and I want to build my own case this time. If
>> you're selling kits and want to blow your own horn I'm good with that as
>> well. I'd design my own and have done so in the past, but I know there are
>> already many choices.
>>
>> I can do SMT work no problem, would like a highly featured clock with GPS
>> sync capability, but it should be able to operate stand-alone as well.
>>
>> Would consider either 4 or 6 tube, 6 preferred. LED lighting is
>> unnecessary, colons are necessary.
>>
>> Arduino based would be nice so I can play with the code a little easier,
>> PIC ok as far as that goes too.
>>
>> Compact form factor is a plus, as is low cost.
>>
>> Please don't just throw out links I can find those. I'd rather hear
>> about your actual experience with the kit.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Terry
>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Itching to build...

[Michail1 via neonixie-l]

Terry,
 
I am interested.
 
Michail  Wilson
206-920-6312  

 
In a message dated 2/7/2015 12:30:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
neonixie-l@googlegroups.com writes:

 
Ok, so I went ahead and started designed my own clock, borrowing heavily  
from an existing open source design.


Here's what it entails. I have IN-18's and love those tubes, so naturally  
it uses them. I designed a main module that has the Arduino interface, power 
 supply, control logic, 2 anode drivers, and 2 IN-18 tube socket  
footprints. At the end of that module there is a 20 pin connector to mate with  
a 2nd 
board I designed, identical in shape and size to the main module, but  only 
has the 2 IN-18 socket footprints and the corresponding anode drivers.  
This slave module also has the 20 pin connector at far end.


The result is that a clock can be configured using 1, 2, or 3 modules. If  
someone wanted, they could build a 2 digit clock (not sure why you would do  
that) or a 4 digit (my preference) or a 6 digit clock.


I will be including provisions for under-tube LED lighting, even though I  
dislike it, and colons, which I do like. The colons will be controllable. I  
prefer a flashing colon on 4 digit clocks, and a static colon on 6 digit  
clocks.


Since it's Arduino driven, the end user can do whatever he/she likes as  
far as timekeeping, (GPS, etc) features, etc. I will be producing a number of  
boards excess to my needs, so let me know if you are interested. I will NOT 
be  supporting software that will be up to you. The board is designed 
such  that the open-source software should work without modification, or with 
very  little, for basic 4 or 6 digit clock functionality.


The boards will have both thru-hole and surface mount parts. You will  need 
to be able to solder your own SMT components.


Any interest? As far as pricing, I'm only going to be looking to recover  
my blank board costs. 


Terry

On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 10:09:35 AM UTC-6, Terry S  wrote:

 
I know there's a plethora of IN-18 kits out there -- please tell me  about 
your favorite. I've got tubes and I want to build my own case this  time. If 
you're selling kits and want to blow your own horn I'm good with  that as 
well. I'd design my own and have done so in the past, but I  know there are 
already many choices.
 
I can do SMT work no problem, would like a highly featured clock with  GPS 
sync capability, but it should be able to operate stand-alone as  well.
 
Would consider either 4 or 6 tube, 6 preferred. LED lighting is  
unnecessary, colons are necessary.
 
Arduino based would be nice so I can play with the code a little  easier, 
PIC ok as far as that goes too. 
 
Compact form factor is a plus, as is low cost. 
 
Please don't just throw out links I can find those. I'd rather hear  
about your actual experience with the kit.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
Terry



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Re: [neonixie-l] Help with clock identification..

[John Rehwinkel]

>  I picked up this old clock and wondered if anyone had an idea what it is.. 
> Looks hand made, I think,  at least hand wired. Pretty nice work.  The 
> display is made up of incandescent bulbs
> (CM344, 10 volt, 14ma) All ics, no micro.
> 
>   I also need help figuring out how to fix the segment 'mask' as you can see 
> it's pretty well toasted!
> 
>  The clock seems to work as far as I can tell, but there only a few bulbs 
> still working so I can't be positive it's fully functional. Finding the bulbs 
> is going to be a real challenge. At least at a price I can justify spending..!

Chicago Miniature (vcclite.com) still makes the #344 bulb.  
Onlinecomponents.com has 'em for 41 cents apiece (less in quantity).

I have a sack of 500 similar bulbs, but they're 14V.

- John

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[neonixie-l] Help with clock identification..

[Kerry Borgne]

Hi Guys,

 Was here under my old ID of Orange_Glow_Fan but somehow (old age!) forgot 
my ID/Password and the email address it was associated with so here I am 
under a new ID...

 I picked up this old clock and wondered if anyone had an idea what it is.. 
Looks hand made, I think,  at least hand wired. Pretty nice work.  The 
display is made up of incandescent bulbs
(CM344, 10 volt, 14ma) All ics, no micro.

  I also need help figuring out how to fix the segment 'mask' as you can 
see it's pretty well toasted!

 The clock seems to work as far as I can tell, but there only a few bulbs 
still working so I can't be positive it's fully functional. Finding the 
bulbs is going to be a real challenge. At least at a price I can justify 
spending..!

Kerry


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[neonixie-l] Re: Dalibor's Nixie tube: R|Z568M

[Greg P]

Nice write up Jens.

Let's hope Dalibor makes a resurrected CD-47 tube next. 




On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 2:01:33 PM UTC-5, Jens Boos wrote:
>
> Hi folks, 
>
> find some pictures and details on Dalibor's R|Z568M on my website: 
> http://www.jb-electronics.de/html/elektronik/nixies/n_rz568m.htm?lang=en 
>
> It is an amazing tube, and it is of remarkable quality. Currently, 
> Dalibor has listed an auction for six of them (with brushed aluminum 
> base) on Ebay #271765099601, 4 days left and at $495. Let's see... 
>
> Enjoy 
> Jens 
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Itching to build...

[Nicholas Stock]

I'd be interested Terry.

Nick

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 7, 2015, at 12:30, 'Terry S' via neonixie-l 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ok, so I went ahead and started designed my own clock, borrowing heavily from 
> an existing open source design.
> 
> Here's what it entails. I have IN-18's and love those tubes, so naturally it 
> uses them. I designed a main module that has the Arduino interface, power 
> supply, control logic, 2 anode drivers, and 2 IN-18 tube socket footprints. 
> At the end of that module there is a 20 pin connector to mate with a 2nd 
> board I designed, identical in shape and size to the main module, but only 
> has the 2 IN-18 socket footprints and the corresponding anode drivers. This 
> slave module also has the 20 pin connector at far end.
> 
> The result is that a clock can be configured using 1, 2, or 3 modules. If 
> someone wanted, they could build a 2 digit clock (not sure why you would do 
> that) or a 4 digit (my preference) or a 6 digit clock.
> 
> I will be including provisions for under-tube LED lighting, even though I 
> dislike it, and colons, which I do like. The colons will be controllable. I 
> prefer a flashing colon on 4 digit clocks, and a static colon on 6 digit 
> clocks.
> 
> Since it's Arduino driven, the end user can do whatever he/she likes as far 
> as timekeeping, (GPS, etc) features, etc. I will be producing a number of 
> boards excess to my needs, so let me know if you are interested. I will NOT 
> be supporting software that will be up to you. The board is designed such 
> that the open-source software should work without modification, or with very 
> little, for basic 4 or 6 digit clock functionality.
> 
> The boards will have both thru-hole and surface mount parts. You will need to 
> be able to solder your own SMT components.
> 
> Any interest? As far as pricing, I'm only going to be looking to recover my 
> blank board costs.
> 
> Terry
> 
>> On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 10:09:35 AM UTC-6, Terry S wrote:
>> I know there's a plethora of IN-18 kits out there -- please tell me about 
>> your favorite. I've got tubes and I want to build my own case this time. If 
>> you're selling kits and want to blow your own horn I'm good with that as 
>> well. I'd design my own and have done so in the past, but I know there are 
>> already many choices.
>>  
>> I can do SMT work no problem, would like a highly featured clock with GPS 
>> sync capability, but it should be able to operate stand-alone as well.
>>  
>> Would consider either 4 or 6 tube, 6 preferred. LED lighting is unnecessary, 
>> colons are necessary.
>>  
>> Arduino based would be nice so I can play with the code a little easier, PIC 
>> ok as far as that goes too.
>>  
>> Compact form factor is a plus, as is low cost.
>>  
>> Please don't just throw out links I can find those. I'd rather hear 
>> about your actual experience with the kit.
>>  
>> Thanks in advance,
>>  
>> Terry
> 
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[neonixie-l] Re: Itching to build...

['Terry S' via neonixie-l]

Ok, so I went ahead and started designed my own clock, borrowing heavily 
from an existing open source design.

Here's what it entails. I have IN-18's and love those tubes, so naturally 
it uses them. I designed a main module that has the Arduino interface, 
power supply, control logic, 2 anode drivers, and 2 IN-18 tube socket 
footprints. At the end of that module there is a 20 pin connector to mate 
with a 2nd board I designed, identical in shape and size to the main 
module, but only has the 2 IN-18 socket footprints and the corresponding 
anode drivers. This slave module also has the 20 pin connector at far end.

The result is that a clock can be configured using 1, 2, or 3 modules. If 
someone wanted, they could build a 2 digit clock (not sure why you would do 
that) or a 4 digit (my preference) or a 6 digit clock.

I will be including provisions for under-tube LED lighting, even though I 
dislike it, and colons, which I do like. The colons will be controllable. I 
prefer a flashing colon on 4 digit clocks, and a static colon on 6 digit 
clocks.

Since it's Arduino driven, the end user can do whatever he/she likes as far 
as timekeeping, (GPS, etc) features, etc. I will be producing a number of 
boards excess to my needs, so let me know if you are interested. I will NOT 
be supporting software that will be up to you. The board is designed 
such that the open-source software should work without modification, or 
with very little, for basic 4 or 6 digit clock functionality.

The boards will have both thru-hole and surface mount parts. You will need 
to be able to solder your own SMT components.

Any interest? As far as pricing, I'm only going to be looking to recover my 
blank board costs. 

Terry

On Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at 10:09:35 AM UTC-6, Terry S wrote:

> I know there's a plethora of IN-18 kits out there -- please tell me about 
> your favorite. I've got tubes and I want to build my own case this time. If 
> you're selling kits and want to blow your own horn I'm good with that as 
> well. I'd design my own and have done so in the past, but I know there are 
> already many choices.
>  
> I can do SMT work no problem, would like a highly featured clock with GPS 
> sync capability, but it should be able to operate stand-alone as well.
>  
> Would consider either 4 or 6 tube, 6 preferred. LED lighting is 
> unnecessary, colons are necessary.
>  
> Arduino based would be nice so I can play with the code a little easier, 
> PIC ok as far as that goes too. 
>  
> Compact form factor is a plus, as is low cost. 
>  
> Please don't just throw out links I can find those. I'd rather hear 
> about your actual experience with the kit.
>  
> Thanks in advance,
>  
> Terry
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Dalibor's Nixie tube: R|Z568M

['Terry S' via neonixie-l]

It's extraordinary. Dalibor, when does volume production begin? We're all 
going to want these tubes. How many do you need to build in a batch to get 
the price down to say, $50 / tube?

Terry



On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 1:01:33 PM UTC-6, Jens Boos wrote:

> Hi folks, 
>
> find some pictures and details on Dalibor's R|Z568M on my website: 
> http://www.jb-electronics.de/html/elektronik/nixies/n_rz568m.htm?lang=en 
>
> It is an amazing tube, and it is of remarkable quality. Currently, 
> Dalibor has listed an auction for six of them (with brushed aluminum 
> base) on Ebay #271765099601, 4 days left and at $495. Let's see... 
>
> Enjoy 
> Jens 
>

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[neonixie-l] Dalibor's Nixie tube: R|Z568M

[jb-electronics]

Hi folks,

find some pictures and details on Dalibor's R|Z568M on my website:
http://www.jb-electronics.de/html/elektronik/nixies/n_rz568m.htm?lang=en

It is an amazing tube, and it is of remarkable quality. Currently, 
Dalibor has listed an auction for six of them (with brushed aluminum 
base) on Ebay #271765099601, 4 days left and at $495. Let's see...


Enjoy
Jens

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Little machining Job - slightly OT

[Nick]

On Friday, 6 February 2015 05:56:29 UTC, I wrote:
>
>  OOps. sorry about that. I didn't know. But I do know about that Value 
> Added Tax V.A.T. though. The gummint over there really socks it to em. 
> Makes me wonder how they all manage to survive. I wonder if they have an 
> income tax??   Ira.
>

We have 20% VAT on most stuff, but that's on the lowish side for Europe 
where it goes from about 20% to 25%.

Certain things, like baby stuff & heating fuel is either VAT-free or at a 
lower rate.

Oh, and by the way, I'm not sure, but I suspect its true, that we have 
pretty good & reasonably-priced machine tool shops over here too :)

Nick 

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[neonixie-l] Re: B7971 Ultronics ticker display?

[Nick]

On Saturday, 7 February 2015 03:47:03 UTC, Terry S wrote:
>
> I would agree, Pete The clue for me was the decimal points. There are 
> none in B7971s, and these appear integral to the display.
>

Well, I would disagree about the DPs - they could easily be NE-2s in 
holders. The size is an issue - the characters do seem large - it might be 
due to some crude 1970's photo editing - why would the electronic ticker be 
obscured by the tape tickers?

I suspect that this was a marketing photo showing how the electronic ticker 
was so much better than rows of paper tape (especially seeing as how the 
one she's reading has obviously recently jammed!), and that the image I 
posted is in fact a montage...

Nick

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