Re: [neonixie-l] Caught like Mars flies in a Klein bottle

[Cqr]

I have a Klein Stein from Clifford, even the invoice that came with it was a 
work of art :)

Cheers,
.  Robin.



> On 24 Mar 2015, at 23:37, Nick  wrote:
> 
>> On Tuesday, 24 March 2015 23:05:15 UTC, celephicus wrote:
>> You can own one of Clifford Stoll's remarkable creations from 
>> http://www.kleinbottle.com/
>> 
>> Quite inexpensive if you have ever tried scientific glassblowing.
> 
> I've tried glassblowing. It's incredibly hard and those prices seem extremely 
> reasonable to me!
> 
> I just love the "Klein Hat" - going to get one of those for my brother (an 
> academic pure mathematician).
> 
>  Nick 
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RE: [neonixie-l] Caught like Mars flies in a Klein bottle

[Jeff Walton]

This is very cool!

 

Jeff W.

 

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Behalf Of Quixotic Nixotic
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To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: [neonixie-l] Caught like Mars flies in a Klein bottle

 

Yes, it's another Firesign Theater quote. But I am trying to work out if this 
multiple Klein bottle could be filled with gas or not and if so, which parts 
would glow? Answers on the back of a banknote of your choice please.

 

I can't wait for Nick de Smith to make me one, now he has the skillset.

 



 

John S

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Re: [neonixie-l] Caught like Mars flies in a Klein bottle

[Nick]

On Tuesday, 24 March 2015 23:05:15 UTC, celephicus wrote:
>
> You can own one of Clifford Stoll's remarkable creations from 
> http://www.kleinbottle.com/
>
> Quite inexpensive if you have ever tried scientific glassblowing.
>

I've tried glassblowing. It's incredibly hard and those prices seem 
extremely reasonable to me!

I just love the "Klein Hat" - going to get one of those for my brother (an 
academic pure mathematician).

 Nick 

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[neonixie-l] Re: Caught like Mars flies in a Klein bottle

[Nick]

On Tuesday, 24 March 2015 21:36:21 UTC, Nixcited delighted wrote:
>
> Yes, it's another Firesign Theater quote. But I am trying to work out if 
> this multiple Klein bottle could be filled with gas or not and if so, which 
> parts would glow? Answers on the back of a banknote of your choice please.
>
> I can't wait for Nick de Smith to make me one, now he has the skillset
>

Yeah. Whatever!

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I found it tough just to make the 
letters of the alphabet... (actually, letters are not easy)

Thanks for that John - is it real or a photoshop?

Nick

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Re: [neonixie-l] Caught like Mars flies in a Klein bottle

[Tom Harris]

You can own one of Clifford Stoll's remarkable creations from
http://www.kleinbottle.com/

Quite inexpensive if you have ever tried scientific glassblowing.


Tom Harris 

On 25 March 2015 at 09:05, jb-electronics 
wrote:

>  Topology at its finest -- I am going to show this to my maths professor
> :-)
>
> Jens
>
> Am 24.03.2015 um 22:36 schrieb Quixotic Nixotic:
>
> Yes, it's another Firesign Theater quote. But I am trying to work out if
> this multiple Klein bottle could be filled with gas or not and if so, which
> parts would glow? Answers on the back of a banknote of your choice please.
>
>  I can't wait for Nick de Smith to make me one, now he has the skillset.
>
>
>  John S
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Re: [neonixie-l] Caught like Mars flies in a Klein bottle

[jb-electronics]

Topology at its finest -- I am going to show this to my maths professor :-)

Jens

Am 24.03.2015 um 22:36 schrieb Quixotic Nixotic:
Yes, it's another Firesign Theater quote. But I am trying to work out 
if this multiple Klein bottle could be filled with gas or not and if 
so, which parts would glow? Answers on the back of a banknote of your 
choice please.


I can't wait for Nick de Smith to make me one, now he has the skillset.


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Re: [neonixie-l] Caught like Mars flies in a Klein bottle

[Tom Harris]

You can't fill a Klein bottle with anything as there is no inside to fill.
Anymore than you can colour in a Moebius strip with two colours without
them touching.


Tom Harris 

On 25 March 2015 at 08:36, Quixotic Nixotic  wrote:

> Yes, it's another Firesign Theater quote. But I am trying to work out if
> this multiple Klein bottle could be filled with gas or not and if so, which
> parts would glow? Answers on the back of a banknote of your choice please.
>
> I can't wait for Nick de Smith to make me one, now he has the skillset.
>
>
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[neonixie-l] Caught like Mars flies in a Klein bottle

[Quixotic Nixotic]

Yes, it's another Firesign Theater quote. But I am trying to work out if this 
multiple Klein bottle could be filled with gas or not and if so, which parts 
would glow? Answers on the back of a banknote of your choice please.

I can't wait for Nick de Smith to make me one, now he has the skillset.



John S

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: One more from the depths.... what would you do.

[Andy Tefft]

I agree with the minimally invasive route. Is this a digital caliper of
some sort? In which case there would have been a device plugged into that
input with which to do the measuring. If you have that and it works then a
physical representation of the time is a neat idea, if you can drive it
with sufficient precision.

Otherwise perhaps you could just simulate whatever electrical signal it
would generate and achieve the same effect. Again, the precision might be
tough.

I started a counter-based clock on this principle - I just output pulses
appropriately to increment the display as needed. The only modification I
made to the counter was to give myself access to the reset signal so that I
could reliably start counting at 0 when I needed to.  It was a neat project
but didn't make it past breadboard stage.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:16 AM, 'Terry S' via neonixie-l <
neonixie-l@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Looks like it's from a CMM. Had a similar unit at last employer. Lost
> track of it 25 years ago when they upgraded to LED units.
>
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> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 9:39:28 PM UTC-5, Kerry Borgne wrote:
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>>  Picked this up at a flea market a couple of years ago. Didn't pay much
>> for it. It's in like new, unused condition. My original intent was to part
>> it, mostly for the Nixies but I was
>> wondering what you guys would do with it.Might make an interesting
>> clock...? (or maybe I should keep it for a collectable ? )
>>
>> Kerry
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[neonixie-l] Re: One more from the depths.... what would you do.

['Terry S' via neonixie-l]

Looks like it's from a CMM. Had a similar unit at last employer. Lost track 
of it 25 years ago when they upgraded to LED units.
 

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> for it. It's in like new, unused condition. My original intent was to part 
> it, mostly for the Nixies but I was
> wondering what you guys would do with it.Might make an interesting 
> clock...? (or maybe I should keep it for a collectable ? )
>
> Kerry
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[neonixie-l] One more from the depths.... what would you do.

[Oscilloclock]

I really like minimal invasion when doing a conversion - although that might be 
tougher with nixies than with CRTs.

What if you actually kept this unit as a distance measuring device, and built a 
stepper-driven mechanical slide (like the head of a printer) that would be 
stepped to represent timely physical distance? The controller would step the 
head a tiny amount for each second, say 0.1mm, so 6mm for 1 minute, then step 
from 10mm to 16mm for minute 2, and so on. 09:13:25 would mean 9.1325m though, 
so perhaps using 3 stepped sliders and doing an analogue multiplier on the 
input would be more realistic. The result in that case would be really 
interesting to see, like the carriages on 3 old typewriters stepping along...

Of course this could be done with voltmeters or other readout units, too. Just 
a crazy idea.

Aaron

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[neonixie-l] Re: One more from the depths.... what would you do.

[Alex]

That will almost certainly take a quadrature input from a encoder and 
increment / decrement from that, so you could make a circuit to pulse it up 
and down to simulate time without modifying it at all. That would be a 
challenge at least. The Quadrature input will almost certainly give +5v and 
Ground out as well. Try connecting a rotary encoder to it and see what it 
counts in (step size). If you were really cunning you could very quickly 
count backwards / forwards at mid-day and mid-night such that you could use 
the + and - marker for AM and PM. It would mean you circuit would have to 
pulse leading or lagging B channel depending on wither it was counting up 
or down but its all just software in the end :-)

Nice find, I parted a dead mitutoyo DRO from that line, but about 20 years 
younger (non nixie), a while back.

- Alex

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