Re: [neonixie-l] How dangerous is 150V - 170V DC?
> On Oct 29, 2019, at 5:42 PM, HuggerMugger wrote: > > I think the main problem with electrickery is that AC may get your heart into > fibrillation, whereas DC causes severe burning. A heart that is running wild > may be easier to get back to normal operation than a heart that is barbequed. RF burns are the worst. Tesla put thimbles on his fingers. > On Oct 28, 2019, at 10:21 PM, Charles MacDonald wrote: > > dry hands and series resistance can keep the current down to levels that you > can survive... Keep your left hand in your back pocket. Terry Bowman, KA4HJH "The Mac Doctor" "I don't even gargle Listerine. I heard it kills germs on contact and I don't like the idea of somethin' dyin' in my mouth."—Jim Stafford -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9420A529-C3BC-4A63-ABCE-4664AD18F432%40gmail.com.
Re: [neonixie-l] How dangerous is 150V - 170V DC?
I think the main problem with electrickery is that AC may get your heart into fibrillation, whereas DC causes severe burning. A heart that is running wild may be easier to get back to normal operation than a heart that is barbequed. /Magnus From: Bill Notfaded Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 10:25 PM To: neonixie-l Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] How dangerous is 150V - 170V DC? I think it's the current that can really kill you not so much the volts. Static electricity can be hundreds of thousands of volts... But there isn't much current there. Take 4 or 5 amps at almost any voltage and it can pretty easily kill you. Bill On Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 7:21 PM Charles MacDonald wrote: On 2019-02-01 3:19 a.m., Thomas Kummer wrote: > Or, is it the fact that 150-170V DC isn’t as dangerous as everyone makes it out to be? I mean either way I know I should be more careful. I guess what I’m getting at is what are the chances of me accidentally doing any significant harm to myself from a Nixie project? > it is not the Voltage that gets you but the current. !!! dry hands and series resistance can keep the current down to levels that you can survive... -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/neonixie-l/ucm_Bztd0s0/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to mailto:neonixie-l%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e007f090-783b-ea89-a699-2e555f7c7a73%40zeusprune.ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CADToqn12Bz2vinF8%3DjDbumb4%2B9qWUM5rk0K_p%2BHunFzkg4mcfQ%40mail.gmail.com. --- Detta e-postmeddelande har sökts igenom efter virus med antivirusprogram från Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/C7DB75E0D6C440438FFAC4371A90D2C5%40MK.
Re: [neonixie-l] How dangerous is 150V - 170V DC?
I think it's the current that can really kill you not so much the volts. Static electricity can be hundreds of thousands of volts... But there isn't much current there. Take 4 or 5 amps at almost any voltage and it can pretty easily kill you. Bill On Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 7:21 PM Charles MacDonald wrote: > On 2019-02-01 3:19 a.m., Thomas Kummer wrote: > > Or, is it the fact that 150-170V DC isn’t as dangerous as everyone > makes it out to be? I mean either way I know I should be more careful. I > guess what I’m getting at is what are the chances of me accidentally doing > any significant harm to myself from a Nixie project? > > > > it is not the Voltage that gets you but the current. !!! > > dry hands and series resistance can keep the current down to levels that > you can survive... > > -- > Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario > cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe > No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/neonixie-l/ucm_Bztd0s0/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e007f090-783b-ea89-a699-2e555f7c7a73%40zeusprune.ca > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/CADToqn12Bz2vinF8%3DjDbumb4%2B9qWUM5rk0K_p%2BHunFzkg4mcfQ%40mail.gmail.com.
[neonixie-l] Re: Heads Up: IN-12 Sale on eBay (20% off)
I received my first batch of IN-12 Nixie's yesterday. It was an order I placed before I found this now ended sale from which I ordered 12 more. The tubes were made in February 1981 if I am reading the date code correctly. First time I have ever seen that type in person. I have a 6-tube Chinese "assembly required" board on order that I will assemble as soon as it arrives. As I was not sure if the board required soldering the tubes to the board (some do), I have 100 gold plated pins on order too as I prefer to have them removable. Also, eBay had added a $10 off coupon to my account for using an AMEX card so I decided to order 18 NOS IN-17 tubes too as I think I may have some future use for those very tiny ones (and they have a real "5"). If not, I doubt they will lose any value. On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 9:18:24 AM UTC-4, Robert G. Schaffrath wrote: > > I know and I have also come to realize the prices now will look like > bargains in 10 years since they are not making any more. I still recall > when B-7971's were quite common and could be had for, adjusted for > inflation, about USD$15/each and they were plentiful (paid USD$5/each in > 1979/1980 for the 6 NOS B-7971's I have). Then the 25 NOS ZM1022's for > USD$4.81/each including sockets back in 2002. I plan to use 4 of the > IN-12's with one of the cheap Chinese clock kits (some assembly required > LOL). If I like it I might make some additional one for interested friends. > > The sad fact is that except for Dalibor Farby, they are not making Nixie's > any longer and when the supply dries up, that is it. At least the quality > of the Russian tubes is good. The Chinese ones will probably be around for > a while longer but with tubes like the QS30's lacking mercury, they wear > out pretty fast according to reports. I suspect many will probably get used > up as replacements for prematurely burned out tubes. I am amazed that the > ZM1022's are rated 200,000 hours and QS30's can wear out in weeks. > > On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 11:32:53 PM UTC-4, GastonP wrote: >> >> It's really crazy to think that about 10 years ago I could buy a box of >> 50 IN-12B for 48 USD or so... "free" shipping and all. >> Well, the crazy part is that at that time IN-18s were already expensive, >> 7971s were as always, unobtanium and IN-12s were the nearest thing to dirt >> cheap. Prices for the IN-14 were starting to rise steeply. >> At that time I bought several IN-8s and sockets at a barely reasonable >> price and the mentioned box of IN-12Bs. I should have bought IN-18s too >> when I still could and they were just expensive at USD 15-20 a pop... >> sigh... >> >> On Wednesday, October 16, 2019 at 2:47:12 PM UTC-3, Robert G. Schaffrath >> wrote: >>> >>> I just picked up a lot of 12 (2 x 6) NOS IN-12 Nixie's on eBay that are >>> temporarily price reduced 20% to USD$8.80. Total came to USD$30.00 + my >>> local tax. I am really not crazy about the inverted "2" but as they are not >>> making these any more, having some on hand for possible future use seemed >>> like a good idea. I dug back in my records and found out I paid a little >>> less than USD$5/each back in June 2002 for my 25 NOS ZM1022's with included >>> sockets. Looking at the prices of those tubes now it looked like a good buy >>> so I figure these IN-12's are probably worth getting too. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4ec6781e-ccce-487b-ab83-8ad576215c7c%40googlegroups.com.
