Re: [neonixie-l] Re: HV Meters For Nixie Testing

2022-05-17 Thread gregebert
Here's a 500VDC meter:  
https://www.ebay.com/itm/120990711589?hash=item1c2b9bbf25:g:Y~AAAOSw9KZiTu0p

If you go hunting around, you can find sellers that have a bunch of 
different ones. I've gotten addicted to these things and I've probably got 
close to a dozen of them in different things in the workshop to monitor 
voltage & current. 

*Terry* - I sent you an invite for the HVPS1 google group where you can get 
all the details of the power supply in the photo. I sold all of the PC 
boards to others (mainly for cost of shipping) who I hope got a chance to 
build their own. The 10-turn pot controls a current-limiter, so it runs at 
less than 1 watt. Take a look at the design report I posted on the forum 
and let me know if you have other questions.
On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 6:36:53 PM UTC-7 Terry Bowman wrote:

> On May 17, 2022, at 8:42 PM, gregebert  wrote:
>
> The meters in this power supply were purchased on Ebay for a few dollars 
> each.
> Voltmeter (lower) is 0-500VDC  . Ammeter is actually a 0-20VDC meter that 
> measures the voltage-drop across a precision 1K resistor, to read 0-20mA.
>
>
> Now we're gettin' somewhere. Can you point me in the right direction for 
> the meters? Every time I search eBay or Aliexpress there are a zillion DPMs 
> with voltages all over the place. My eyes start to glaze over...
>
> Did you use a fixed resistor or a multi-turn pot? Wattage?
>
> Sorry about the noob questions but my eyes aren't open enough today to 
> glaze over in the first place. I know the theory but I'm having a hard time 
> with math at the moment.
>
>
> Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
> "The Mac Doctor"
>
> https://www.astarcloseup.com
>
> “...the book said something astonishing, a very big thought. The stars, it 
> said, were suns but very far away. The Sun was a star but close up.”—Carl 
> Sagan, "The Backbone Of Night", *Cosmos*, 1980
>
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: HV Meters For Nixie Testing

2022-05-17 Thread Mac Doktor

> On May 17, 2022, at 8:42 PM, gregebert  wrote:
> 
> The meters in this power supply were purchased on Ebay for a few dollars each.
> Voltmeter (lower) is 0-500VDC  . Ammeter is actually a 0-20VDC meter that 
> measures the voltage-drop across a precision 1K resistor, to read 0-20mA.

Now we're gettin' somewhere. Can you point me in the right direction for the 
meters? Every time I search eBay or Aliexpress there are a zillion DPMs with 
voltages all over the place. My eyes start to glaze over...

Did you use a fixed resistor or a multi-turn pot? Wattage?

Sorry about the noob questions but my eyes aren't open enough today to glaze 
over in the first place. I know the theory but I'm having a hard time with math 
at the moment.


Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
"The Mac Doctor"

https://www.astarcloseup.com

“...the book said something astonishing, a very big thought. The stars, it 
said, were suns but very far away. The Sun was a star but close up.”—Carl 
Sagan, "The Backbone Of Night", Cosmos, 1980


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[neonixie-l] HV Meters For Nixie Testing

2022-05-17 Thread Mac Doktor
This may be interest to many here. I have the PRO Nixie Tester:

https://nixietester.com/project/pro-nixie-tester/


And I'm searching for a pair of digital meters to go with it. I can live with a 
voltmeter that only goes up to 199V DC but 300V would be better. What I'm 
really unsure about is a digital ammeter that can handle at least 20mA at these 
high voltages. The precision should be at least a tenth of a mA (for working 
with IN-9/IN-13 at least).

Yes, I know I can go over to Harbor Freight and get a couple of cheap DVMs and 
cobble something together but I need a display large and bright enough for my 
lousy eyesight. A couple of DPMs with bright LEDs would be perfect and take up 
much less space.

A friend of mine bought a K40 laser cutter recently so I'd be able to cut an 
acrylic enclosure to match the PRO Nixie Tester.


Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
"The Mac Doctor"

https://www.astarcloseup.com

“...the book said something astonishing, a very big thought. The stars, it 
said, were suns but very far away. The Sun was a star but close up.”—Carl 
Sagan, "The Backbone Of Night", Cosmos, 1980


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Re: [neonixie-l] Reboot of an old clock kit design

2022-05-17 Thread Moses
Thanks Allen!

Email me direct, I'll help you troubleshoot it or you can just mail the 
clock to me and I'll take a look. I still have various spare parts for 
repair. 

Save for a year or two of sitting in a box.. the first production, serial 
#1, 6 digit clock is still on my lab bench. Been running for 15+ years now 
I estimate. I remember we all used to talk about tube lifespan.. these ones 
are still the originals and are still working!

Regards,
-Moses

On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 3:16:24 PM UTC-7 W1SBY wrote:

> Welcome back!
>
> I’ve got one assembled 6 digit z57xm clock and believe it or not another 
> kit that is still in its box. 
> The one I put together ran for a number of years and developed a problem. 
> I don’t remember exactly what at this moment.
>
> I am very interested in the new project you are working on. I’ll buy one 
> 😊 
>
> Allen Wisbey, W1SBY
>
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Reboot of an old clock kit design

2022-05-17 Thread Allen
Welcome back!

I’ve got one assembled 6 digit z57xm clock and believe it or not another kit 
that is still in its box. 
The one I put together ran for a number of years and developed a problem. I 
don’t remember exactly what at this moment.

I am very interested in the new project you are working on. I’ll buy one 😊 

Allen Wisbey, W1SBY


> On May 17, 2022, at 1:17 PM, Moses  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone!
> 
> My name is Moses. This is my first post here on the new *google* neonixie-l 
> list. I used to be on the list when it was on yahoo groups, 20 some odd years 
> ago. I never switched over to the google group until now. Like they say, life 
> is what happens when you're busy making other plans. I hope some of my old 
> friends from the list are still here, and I'm sure I'll meet some interesting 
> new ones as well.
> 
> A little background on myself. Back in the early 2000s after loosing my job. 
> I'm not exactly sure how or why.. but I ended up traveling to the other side 
> of the world, many times, roaming through dusty old Soviet warehouses looking 
> for nixie tubes. Those stories can go on for days, I'll keep it short for now 
> and tell you it was an incredible adventure!
> I brought those old tubes back here to California and started selling them on 
> ebay. I would eventually make several clock kits using the tubes I had, 
> including a 4 digit IN-17 kit, and 4/6 digit kit with Z57xM tubes. I never 
> made the riches that I had anticipated, but it put food on the table for 
> while and it was fun work. I am the original owner of the domain 
> 'neonixie.com' and you can see some of my original clock kits there.
> 
> Fast forward to now. I've decided to redesign my most popular kit, the 6 
> digit Z57xM kit. You can see the original here:
> http://www.allspectrum.com/store/digit-red-filtered-z57xm-nixie-tube-clock-kit-p-130.html
> 
> I've kept the size of the board the same as before, but everything else is 
> new. Some features:
> - Controller choices. The board will accommodate an ESP32 or a Pi Zero. I've 
> picked these two boards because of their popularity and the fact that they 
> have wifi. It is so nice not having to set the clock! Wifi and NTP!
> - Modern HV drivers, HV5122/H
> - The tried and true MAX1771 for the HV supply
> - Pinout for optional DHT22 temp/humidity sensor 
> - Pinout for optional BH1750 light level sensor to dim the tubes at night
> - Prototype area for custom sensors/etc.
> 
> Pictures here:
> http://neonixie.com/Z57XM6DV2/
> 
> The actual pictures are of the first prototype with an ESP32 attached. The 3D 
> rendering is of the second prototype which I am about to order. I believe the 
> second prototype should be very close to the production version.
> 
> Now on to the point of this post. Before I order the second prototype, I 
> would like to know what people think of it. 
> 
> Comments about the overall design or any specifics, what you like or don't 
> like about it. Any changes or additions you would make?
> 
> There is still time for me to make changes.. so if there are any other 
> standard pinouts (like for the light sensor/etc) that I can easily add I 
> will. This was my first real experience with the ESP32 board and it works 
> well in the design along with the Pi Zero which has a big following. 
> 
> I appreciate your advice and comments in helping me make this a nice kit!
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Regards,
> -Moses
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[neonixie-l] Re: Reboot of an old clock kit design

2022-05-17 Thread Moses
Hi Martin!

Thank you! 

Yes, I wrote the code for the 6 digit (and 4 digit) clock controllers. 
Those were actually offshoots from the original clock kits. Someone 
approached me to sell the controllers separately, and with a few code 
changes the controllers were born. Still sell a few here and there to this 
day.

Regards,
-Moses
On Tuesday, May 17, 2022 at 11:42:11 AM UTC-7 Dekatron42 wrote:

> Welcome back!
>
> I hope to hear more of your adventures!
>
> Is it you that wrote the code for the "6 Digit Nixie Tube Clock Controller 
> Chip"?
>
> /Martin
> On Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 20:17:24 UTC+2 mo...@neonixie.com wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone!
>>
>> My name is Moses. This is my first post here on the new *google* 
>> neonixie-l list. I used to be on the list when it was on yahoo groups, 20 
>> some odd years ago. I never switched over to the google group until now. 
>> Like they say, life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. I 
>> hope some of my old friends from the list are still here, and I'm sure I'll 
>> meet some interesting new ones as well.
>>
>> A little background on myself. Back in the early 2000s after loosing my 
>> job. I'm not exactly sure how or why.. but I ended up traveling to the 
>> other side of the world, many times, roaming through dusty old Soviet 
>> warehouses looking for nixie tubes. Those stories can go on for days, I'll 
>> keep it short for now and tell you it was an incredible adventure!
>> I brought those old tubes back here to California and started selling 
>> them on ebay. I would eventually make several clock kits using the tubes I 
>> had, including a 4 digit IN-17 kit, and 4/6 digit kit with Z57xM tubes. I 
>> never made the riches that I had anticipated, but it put food on the table 
>> for while and it was fun work. I am the original owner of the domain '
>> neonixie.com' and you can see some of my original clock kits there.
>>
>> Fast forward to now. I've decided to redesign my most popular kit, the 6 
>> digit Z57xM kit. You can see the original here:
>>
>> http://www.allspectrum.com/store/digit-red-filtered-z57xm-nixie-tube-clock-kit-p-130.html
>>
>> I've kept the size of the board the same as before, but everything else 
>> is new. Some features:
>> - Controller choices. The board will accommodate an ESP32 or a Pi Zero. 
>> I've picked these two boards because of their popularity and the fact that 
>> they have wifi. It is so nice not having to set the clock! Wifi and NTP!
>> - Modern HV drivers, HV5122/H
>> - The tried and true MAX1771 for the HV supply
>> - Pinout for optional DHT22 temp/humidity sensor 
>> - Pinout for optional BH1750 light level sensor to dim the tubes at night
>> - Prototype area for custom sensors/etc.
>>
>> Pictures here:
>> http://neonixie.com/Z57XM6DV2/
>>
>> The actual pictures are of the first prototype with an ESP32 attached. 
>> The 3D rendering is of the second prototype which I am about to order. I 
>> believe the second prototype should be very close to the production version.
>>
>> Now on to the point of this post. Before I order the second prototype, I 
>> would like to know what people think of it. 
>>
>> Comments about the overall design or any specifics, what you like or 
>> don't like about it. Any changes or additions you would make?
>>
>> There is still time for me to make changes.. so if there are any other 
>> standard pinouts (like for the light sensor/etc) that I can easily add I 
>> will. This was my first real experience with the ESP32 board and it works 
>> well in the design along with the Pi Zero which has a big following. 
>>
>> I appreciate your advice and comments in helping me make this a nice kit!
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Regards,
>> -Moses
>>
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Reboot of an old clock kit design

2022-05-17 Thread Dekatron42
Welcome back!

I hope to hear more of your adventures!

Is it you that wrote the code for the "6 Digit Nixie Tube Clock Controller 
Chip"?

/Martin
On Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 20:17:24 UTC+2 mo...@neonixie.com wrote:

> Hello Everyone!
>
> My name is Moses. This is my first post here on the new *google* 
> neonixie-l list. I used to be on the list when it was on yahoo groups, 20 
> some odd years ago. I never switched over to the google group until now. 
> Like they say, life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. I 
> hope some of my old friends from the list are still here, and I'm sure I'll 
> meet some interesting new ones as well.
>
> A little background on myself. Back in the early 2000s after loosing my 
> job. I'm not exactly sure how or why.. but I ended up traveling to the 
> other side of the world, many times, roaming through dusty old Soviet 
> warehouses looking for nixie tubes. Those stories can go on for days, I'll 
> keep it short for now and tell you it was an incredible adventure!
> I brought those old tubes back here to California and started selling them 
> on ebay. I would eventually make several clock kits using the tubes I had, 
> including a 4 digit IN-17 kit, and 4/6 digit kit with Z57xM tubes. I never 
> made the riches that I had anticipated, but it put food on the table for 
> while and it was fun work. I am the original owner of the domain '
> neonixie.com' and you can see some of my original clock kits there.
>
> Fast forward to now. I've decided to redesign my most popular kit, the 6 
> digit Z57xM kit. You can see the original here:
>
> http://www.allspectrum.com/store/digit-red-filtered-z57xm-nixie-tube-clock-kit-p-130.html
>
> I've kept the size of the board the same as before, but everything else is 
> new. Some features:
> - Controller choices. The board will accommodate an ESP32 or a Pi Zero. 
> I've picked these two boards because of their popularity and the fact that 
> they have wifi. It is so nice not having to set the clock! Wifi and NTP!
> - Modern HV drivers, HV5122/H
> - The tried and true MAX1771 for the HV supply
> - Pinout for optional DHT22 temp/humidity sensor 
> - Pinout for optional BH1750 light level sensor to dim the tubes at night
> - Prototype area for custom sensors/etc.
>
> Pictures here:
> http://neonixie.com/Z57XM6DV2/
>
> The actual pictures are of the first prototype with an ESP32 attached. The 
> 3D rendering is of the second prototype which I am about to order. I 
> believe the second prototype should be very close to the production version.
>
> Now on to the point of this post. Before I order the second prototype, I 
> would like to know what people think of it. 
>
> Comments about the overall design or any specifics, what you like or don't 
> like about it. Any changes or additions you would make?
>
> There is still time for me to make changes.. so if there are any other 
> standard pinouts (like for the light sensor/etc) that I can easily add I 
> will. This was my first real experience with the ESP32 board and it works 
> well in the design along with the Pi Zero which has a big following. 
>
> I appreciate your advice and comments in helping me make this a nice kit!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Regards,
> -Moses
>

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[neonixie-l] Reboot of an old clock kit design

2022-05-17 Thread Moses
Hello Everyone!

My name is Moses. This is my first post here on the new *google* neonixie-l 
list. I used to be on the list when it was on yahoo groups, 20 some odd 
years ago. I never switched over to the google group until now. Like they 
say, life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. I hope some 
of my old friends from the list are still here, and I'm sure I'll meet some 
interesting new ones as well.

A little background on myself. Back in the early 2000s after loosing my 
job. I'm not exactly sure how or why.. but I ended up traveling to the 
other side of the world, many times, roaming through dusty old Soviet 
warehouses looking for nixie tubes. Those stories can go on for days, I'll 
keep it short for now and tell you it was an incredible adventure!
I brought those old tubes back here to California and started selling them 
on ebay. I would eventually make several clock kits using the tubes I had, 
including a 4 digit IN-17 kit, and 4/6 digit kit with Z57xM tubes. I never 
made the riches that I had anticipated, but it put food on the table for 
while and it was fun work. I am the original owner of the domain 
'neonixie.com' and you can see some of my original clock kits there.

Fast forward to now. I've decided to redesign my most popular kit, the 6 
digit Z57xM kit. You can see the original here:
http://www.allspectrum.com/store/digit-red-filtered-z57xm-nixie-tube-clock-kit-p-130.html

I've kept the size of the board the same as before, but everything else is 
new. Some features:
- Controller choices. The board will accommodate an ESP32 or a Pi Zero. 
I've picked these two boards because of their popularity and the fact that 
they have wifi. It is so nice not having to set the clock! Wifi and NTP!
- Modern HV drivers, HV5122/H
- The tried and true MAX1771 for the HV supply
- Pinout for optional DHT22 temp/humidity sensor 
- Pinout for optional BH1750 light level sensor to dim the tubes at night
- Prototype area for custom sensors/etc.

Pictures here:
http://neonixie.com/Z57XM6DV2/

The actual pictures are of the first prototype with an ESP32 attached. The 
3D rendering is of the second prototype which I am about to order. I 
believe the second prototype should be very close to the production version.

Now on to the point of this post. Before I order the second prototype, I 
would like to know what people think of it. 

Comments about the overall design or any specifics, what you like or don't 
like about it. Any changes or additions you would make?

There is still time for me to make changes.. so if there are any other 
standard pinouts (like for the light sensor/etc) that I can easily add I 
will. This was my first real experience with the ESP32 board and it works 
well in the design along with the Pi Zero which has a big following. 

I appreciate your advice and comments in helping me make this a nice kit!

Thank you!

Regards,
-Moses

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[neonixie-l] Re: 7971 Burroughs question

2022-05-17 Thread Paul Andrews
This is one I made a while back. It uses the tube socket pins that LB(?) 
referred to. I see it isn't very well labelled, in terms of what value of 
resistors to use, and it uses surface mount resistors. Anyway, there it 
is. https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/G9c1wPoq

On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 5:02:23 PM UTC-4 SD wrote:

> Hello
> I was referred to this mail list, thank you
> I am sitting on for years a 7971 that I want to use/adapt but cannot find 
> any sockets from ebay that are not very expensive. I do not want to 
> permanently solder to a perfboard, etc.  these things are super pricey 
> now.  
> any help appreciated
>
> thanks
> scott
>

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