Re: [neonixie-l] 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers

2014-02-04 Thread JohnK
Way back in '69 I used boot eyelets soldered into PCBs for the 4mm sockets. 
Didn't get a cheap solution to the plugs though. None of the bent metal, 
springy-wire ideas survived use. One idea that nearly worked was a smaller 
eyelet for the socket and very flexible meter lead cable for the leads/ 
plugs. Stripped the cable, bent the strands back over the insulation and 
held with heatshrink.


Later [ late '80s] I used wire-wrap pins and the rolls of blue links - 
can't remember the brand etc. The ones that I still have are on blank 
generic spools.  They are continuous wire with a socket to suit wire-wrap 
pins every 6 inches. Worked but didn't look nice; very cheap though.
A mate's contender at the time used an idea that I discarded - high density 
plug pins that had an insulation displacement connection slot at the end. he 
soldered the pin end into the pcb and pushed the 'telephone' wire into the 
knives to make the connections. Wasn't nice to use [for me anyway] and 
'pulling' a connection wasn't easy [ needed plier on the short side and pull 
both sides together. The temptation was to just rip the wires out.]


Found a rolled up piece of mylar recently - was the artwork for one of the 
patch panels - double-size done with Bishop Graphics tape. The high temps in 
that area had helped the tape fall off  :-((


John K
Australia


clip
. My biggest part of the design
challenge is getting the cost of the patching down - even cheap banana 
jacks become expensive when you need hundreds!


M


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[neonixie-l] 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers

2014-02-03 Thread laingt
Check out auction 350987319019.  It appears to be partial analog computers
made by Hickok that simulate Ford vehicles. Most likely solid state but
check out the card readers.  They look like cardmatic tube tester card
readers.  So maybe you could simulate the suspension on a Pinto and test a
6L6 on the same machine!  Standard disclaimer, not my auction etc.  Tim
Laing

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Re: [neonixie-l] 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers

2014-02-03 Thread Matthew Smith

Quoth lai...@wcoil.com at 2014-02-04 00:09 ...

Check out auction 350987319019.  It appears to be partial analog computers
made by Hickok that simulate Ford vehicles. Most likely solid state but
check out the card readers.  They look like cardmatic tube tester card
readers.  So maybe you could simulate the suspension on a Pinto and test a
6L6 on the same machine!  Standard disclaimer, not my auction etc.  Tim
Laing

Oh, my. If I had the space and a squillion dollars for international 
shipping, I'd take 'em like a shot.


John - any idea of what the Nixies in the Sequoyah were for? Voltmeters?

Of particular interest, as I'm in the throes of designing a simple 
analogue computer. My only output devices are currently a pair of large, 
ex-Soviet, centre-zero microammeters wired as voltmeters (ie: pure 
analogue.) Had been wondering whether to include a digital voltmeters 
too. Whilst I'm actually building it for practical reasons, it WOULD 
look good with some neon on there. My biggest part of the design 
challenge is getting the cost of the patching down - even cheap banana 
jacks become expensive when you need hundreds!


M

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Re: [neonixie-l] 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers

2014-02-03 Thread NeonJohn


On 02/03/2014 02:17 PM, Matthew Smith wrote:

 John - any idea of what the Nixies in the Sequoyah were for? Voltmeters?

Yes, voltmeters.  They could be jumpered into any part of the simulation
circuitry.  As I understand it, they were used primarily to set up the
initial parameters more precisely than the verniers could.  The outputs
were all Brush pressurized ink strip-chart recorders.

John


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Re: [neonixie-l] 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers

2014-02-03 Thread John Rehwinkel
 Check out auction 350987319019.  It appears to be partial analog computers
 made by Hickok that simulate Ford vehicles.
 
 Oh, my. If I had the space and a squillion dollars for international 
 shipping, I'd take 'em like a shot.

I considered buying 'em for parts and art projects, but while I'd part with a 
couple hundred dollars for 'em, a couple hundred MORE for shipping makes it 
beyond the that would be nice to have category.

 Of particular interest, as I'm in the throes of designing a simple analogue 
 computer.

I've been considering doing the same.  Op-amps are cheap and common these days, 
and it would be nice to build an analogue chaos machine (the original research 
on chaotic systems grew out of a weather simulator on a Systron-Donner analogue 
computer).

 My only output devices are currently a pair of large, ex-Soviet, centre-zero 
 microammeters wired as voltmeters (ie: pure analogue.)

Nice!  I have a real fondness for big meters.

 Had been wondering whether to include a digital voltmeters too. Whilst I'm 
 actually building it for practical reasons, it WOULD look good with some neon 
 on there.

Oh, you give me ideas!  Maybe a couple of neon bar graph displays would work.  
An eye tube or two?  And a nixie voltmeter would be an appropriate touch.

 My biggest part of the design challenge is getting the cost of the patching 
 down - even cheap banana jacks become expensive when you need hundreds!

Surplus is your friend.  I bought a raft of banana jacks in assorted colours 
from a surplus vendor a while back.  They're great for prototyping.  And you're 
right about needing a lot of them, I looked at some of the analogue computers 
available on eBay, and the panels are just covered with them.

- John

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