[neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

[SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F.]

Happy to hear all this response and interest! I wasn't expecting that. Now 
i'm feeling like i really want to do this project and start to make a 
concept on how to store the data :) And yes, Nixiebase is a very nice name!

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[neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

[严泽远]

Any help you need for Chinese Nixie tubes data please let me know, I have 
almost all types of Chinese Nixie tubes in my stock, and I have original 
datasheets for them, also can translate them to English as well.

Yan.

在 2019年4月22日星期一 UTC+8上午2:48:11，SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F.写道：
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to present one of my ideas/dreams. Please notice, that this 
> topic is not about how to do it, its just a general question of interest.
>
>
> Nowadays nixie tube names are easily found by google, but there are alot 
> of collectors that have many tubes, and other places where only a few tubes 
> are listed etc. Sadly there is no "master" list of tubes, where you can 
> find all (yet) known types.
>
> Imagine a website where you can find only a list of nixie tubes, and their 
> common paramters like size, characters and shape. The page would have a 
> advanced search filter like you know from mouser or digikey shops when 
> looking for parts. The list would conain each known parameter of a tube, in 
> some cases maybe only its name and manufacturer, in other cases 
> name,manufacturer,base,shape,size,characters.
> The database would only provide text data about the tubes - no images or 
> datasheets - if a collector owns a particular tube, a link could be added 
> to see this tube on the collectors page. This would ensure that visitors 
> still would visit the collectors pages instead of looking up tube images on 
> the master database. So every collector could freely design his own website.
>
>
> To make something like this come alive, it would need the help of people 
> from this group. 
>
>
> So, what do you think? Any opinions about this? Any interest?
>
>
>
>

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[neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

[Bill Notfaded]

I'm a CIS guy so if I wanted to do on the cheap I would just get it hosted 
somewhere cheap and use the lamp stack.  All open source.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_(software_bundle)

The only expense would be the hosting fee to run a small VM.

Bill

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[neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

[Tyler Bourne]

That site does look pretty nice.  It would be nice for a database to have 
pictures of the tubes.  It can help when trying to identify a tube with the 
markings missing.

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[neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

[Tyler Bourne]

I would support this idea.  I can't do much on the functional side of 
things but I have skills with Photoshop and can make any site look nice.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

['John Rehwinkel' via neonixie-l]

If it's stored as a table (spreadsheet style) or a database, it should be easy 
enough to export the data in a simple format such as CSV.  Backing up the CSV 
all over the place isn't difficult, and it could be imported into a variety of 
spreadsheet or database programs, or a search/mining utility could be written 
simply enough.

I used to do this sort of thing all the time in XML, but XML is probably 
overkill for this kind of data.

- John

> On Apr 23, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Nick  wrote:
> 
> I'm well aware of the risks of data loss - that's why the group is backed up 
> multiple ways.
> 
> The main reason for using a Google integrated solution is convenience - the 
> hosting is there and so is access control - e.g. the library section is on 
> Google Drive but "knows" about Google Groups; the access rights granted in 
> neonixie-l automatically carry of to control access to the library section.
> 
> No disrespect, but anyone can go bust or withdraw a service, not just Google. 
> Bearing in mind that they've supported free groups pretty much since they 
> were founded, they're unlikely to go away any time soon. However, even if 
> they did, we have multiple mirrors...
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Nick
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[neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

[Nick]

I'm well aware of the risks of data loss - that's why the group is backed 
up multiple ways.

The main reason for using a Google integrated solution is convenience - the 
hosting is there and so is access control - e.g. the library section is on 
Google Drive but "knows" about Google Groups; the access rights granted in 
neonixie-l automatically carry of to control access to the library section.

No disrespect, but anyone can go bust or withdraw a service, not just 
Google. Bearing in mind that they've supported free groups pretty much 
since they were founded, they're unlikely to go away any time soon. 
However, even if they did, we have multiple mirrors...

Cheers

Nick

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[neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

[Terry Kennedy]

On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 1:47:53 AM UTC-4, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. 
wrote:
>
> A "own" solution has the benefits that it can be fully customized to the 
> needs of the user, is independand and can be backed up/ migrated easily. A 
> SQL dump can be importet to any SQL Database in case the server/hosting 
> would have to shut down. 
>

I'd be glad to host this on one of my company's web servers, which has a 
10GbE link to multiple Internet providers (I think we peer with something 
like 250 providers). The host is FreeBSD / Apache / mySQL / PHP and command 
line / [S]FTP access would be available. Feel free to contact me off-list 
if this is of interest.

Note that this is just the hosting - someone else needs to develop / 
maintain the database and web app.

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[neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

[SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F.]

I'm afraid google doesn't provide such a solution. 

The data would have to be stored in a database. MySQL has bad performance, 
but for this tube database which contains little data, it should be just 
fine. Interfacing with a web-page is very easy and is done millions of 
times on the web. A "own" solution has the benefits that it can be fully 
customized to the needs of the user, is independand and can be backed up/ 
migrated easily. A SQL dump can be importet to any SQL Database in case the 
server/hosting would have to shut down. 


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[neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

[Nick]

Nice idea - it'd be good if it could be done vis Google Groups, like the 
use of the shared Google Drive for the library section.

Is there a free Google product that'll do what you want?

Nick

On Sunday, 21 April 2019 19:48:11 UTC+1, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to present one of my ideas/dreams. Please notice, that this 
> topic is not about how to do it, its just a general question of interest.
>
>
> Nowadays nixie tube names are easily found by google, but there are alot 
> of collectors that have many tubes, and other places where only a few tubes 
> are listed etc. Sadly there is no "master" list of tubes, where you can 
> find all (yet) known types.
>
> Imagine a website where you can find only a list of nixie tubes, and their 
> common paramters like size, characters and shape. The page would have a 
> advanced search filter like you know from mouser or digikey shops when 
> looking for parts. The list would conain each known parameter of a tube, in 
> some cases maybe only its name and manufacturer, in other cases 
> name,manufacturer,base,shape,size,characters.
> The database would only provide text data about the tubes - no images or 
> datasheets - if a collector owns a particular tube, a link could be added 
> to see this tube on the collectors page. This would ensure that visitors 
> still would visit the collectors pages instead of looking up tube images on 
> the master database. So every collector could freely design his own website.
>
>
> To make something like this come alive, it would need the help of people 
> from this group. 
>
>
> So, what do you think? Any opinions about this? Any interest?
>
>
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

[Nicholas Stock]

That sounds like a good resource (if it doesn't already exist). What kind
of help are you looking for?

Nick

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 12:03 PM Dekatron42 
wrote:

> A link to datasheets found on Frank Philipses huge database would also be
> good: https://frank.pocnet.net/sheetsZ.html (some Nixies on that page in
> particular).
>
> /Martin
>
> On Sunday, 21 April 2019 20:48:11 UTC+2, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I would like to present one of my ideas/dreams. Please notice, that this
>> topic is not about how to do it, its just a general question of interest.
>>
>>
>> Nowadays nixie tube names are easily found by google, but there are alot
>> of collectors that have many tubes, and other places where only a few tubes
>> are listed etc. Sadly there is no "master" list of tubes, where you can
>> find all (yet) known types.
>>
>> Imagine a website where you can find only a list of nixie tubes, and
>> their common paramters like size, characters and shape. The page would have
>> a advanced search filter like you know from mouser or digikey shops when
>> looking for parts. The list would conain each known parameter of a tube, in
>> some cases maybe only its name and manufacturer, in other cases
>> name,manufacturer,base,shape,size,characters.
>> The database would only provide text data about the tubes - no images or
>> datasheets - if a collector owns a particular tube, a link could be added
>> to see this tube on the collectors page. This would ensure that visitors
>> still would visit the collectors pages instead of looking up tube images on
>> the master database. So every collector could freely design his own website.
>>
>>
>> To make something like this come alive, it would need the help of people
>> from this group.
>>
>>
>> So, what do you think? Any opinions about this? Any interest?
>>
>>
>>
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[neonixie-l] Re: Tube database?

[Dekatron42]

A link to datasheets found on Frank Philipses huge database would also be 
good: https://frank.pocnet.net/sheetsZ.html (some Nixies on that page in 
particular).

/Martin

On Sunday, 21 April 2019 20:48:11 UTC+2, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to present one of my ideas/dreams. Please notice, that this 
> topic is not about how to do it, its just a general question of interest.
>
>
> Nowadays nixie tube names are easily found by google, but there are alot 
> of collectors that have many tubes, and other places where only a few tubes 
> are listed etc. Sadly there is no "master" list of tubes, where you can 
> find all (yet) known types.
>
> Imagine a website where you can find only a list of nixie tubes, and their 
> common paramters like size, characters and shape. The page would have a 
> advanced search filter like you know from mouser or digikey shops when 
> looking for parts. The list would conain each known parameter of a tube, in 
> some cases maybe only its name and manufacturer, in other cases 
> name,manufacturer,base,shape,size,characters.
> The database would only provide text data about the tubes - no images or 
> datasheets - if a collector owns a particular tube, a link could be added 
> to see this tube on the collectors page. This would ensure that visitors 
> still would visit the collectors pages instead of looking up tube images on 
> the master database. So every collector could freely design his own website.
>
>
> To make something like this come alive, it would need the help of people 
> from this group. 
>
>
> So, what do you think? Any opinions about this? Any interest?
>
>
>
>

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