RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Making Nixie Tubes

2011-06-13 Thread Tidak Ada
What is the 'ceramic paint', visible in many Russian nixies, deketrons and
vfd tubes?
May be this ia an good alternative for home-made tubes!
 
eric

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Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Making Nixie Tubes


On Jun 1, 2:07 pm, John Rehwinkel  wrote:
> > Does anyone know what the insulation material used between the 
> > cathodes is? It looks like it might be a tiny ceramic bead, but now 
> > we're wondering if it is really mica.
>
> Depends on the nixie.  I've seen ceramic, mica, and glass.  Any would
work, I imagine.
>
> I got a quote for tiny ceramic rings for this purpose, but it was too 
> expensive for me.  Perhaps glass seed beads would work (I've used these to
make crackle neon tubing, and they worked fine).
> You'd have to make your support rods thin enough to fit through the beads,
naturally.

One thing you usually can't see without disassembling a nixie, is that most
of them have a section of tiny glass tubing that's fit over each metal
support post, before the cathodes and ceramic spacers are threaded on.

A.J.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Making Nixie Tubes

2011-06-13 Thread Per Jensen
It's called Glass Frit, or Frit glass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frit

// Per.


On 13/06/2011, at 23.34, Tidak Ada wrote:

> What is the 'ceramic paint', visible in many Russian nixies, deketrons and
> vfd tubes?
> May be this ia an good alternative for home-made tubes!
> 
> eric

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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Making Nixie Tubes

2011-06-14 Thread John Rehwinkel
>> What is the 'ceramic paint', visible in many Russian nixies, deketrons and
>> vfd tubes?
>> May be this ia an good alternative for home-made tubes!

> It's called Glass Frit, or Frit glass.

I don't think that's the same thing.  Frit glass is used to seal incompatible 
or delicate glasses together by sintering (like the end mirrors in "soft seal" 
HeNe tubes).  I suspect Eric is asking about the white paint on the internal 
leads and structures of nixies, presumably to discourage a discharge between 
the leads, so it will be confined to the desired location on the cathodes.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's similar to the powdered alumina suspension that 
vacuum tube heaters are dipped in to insulate them from the cathodes.  It's a 
similar color, it's known to be an insulator, and it doesn't spoil a vacuum.

According to this page:

http://www.thevalvepage.com/valvetek/heater/heater.htm

"This suspension is composed of a very pure, fused and milled alumina, in a 
solution of methanol, aluminium nitrate salt, and distilled water."

- John KG4L

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