Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Michail1]

I couldn't find (although didn't search long), if it will output F as well  
as C?
 
Michail  


 
In a message dated 7/2/2012 1:26:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
huggermug...@pastisch.se writes:

Looking for the latest pre-amp project I saw this  little project involving 
IN-14 and IN-19A nixies.
_http://www.elektor.com/magazines/2012/june/nixie-thermometer-hygrometer.215
9318.lynkx_ (http://www.elektor.com/magazines/2012/june/nixie-ther
mometer-hygrometer.2159318.lynkx) 
 
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Huggermugger]

Guess temperatures in Centigrades as the designer propably is from Dutchland 
(Netherlands that is). But I'm not sure. Haven't yet seen the mag in our local 
library.
Will keep my eyes open though.
Magnus
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  Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 11:20 PM
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  I couldn't find (although didn't search long), if it will output F as well as 
C?

  Michail 


  In a message dated 7/2/2012 1:26:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
huggermug...@pastisch.se writes:
Looking for the latest pre-amp project I saw this little project involving 
IN-14 and IN-19A nixies.

http://www.elektor.com/magazines/2012/june/nixie-thermometer-hygrometer.2159318.lynkx

/Magnus

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Charles MacDonald]

On 12-07-03 06:46 AM, Huggermugger wrote:

Guess temperatures in Centigrades as the designer propably is from
Dutchland (Holland) (Netherlands that is).
I couldn't find (although didn't search long), if it will output F
as well as C?oogle.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB.


there are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.  if 
the ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be available.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Michail1]

I would think that USA is big/well known enough and probably the  largest 
user of Nixie for fun devices that a programmer would have implemented  
(easily) a Fahrenheit feature.
 
A feature which would take maybe a couple hours (at most) to add, would be  
smart to open your product open for a wanted item for an entire country.
 
It was just a thought.
 
Michail  

 
In a message dated 7/3/2012 4:23:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
cm...@zeusprune.ca writes:

there  are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.  if 
the  ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be available.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Dave]

In the article, the author states that F is not on the IN-19 tube he used 
and that is why there is no Fahrenheit feature.
Personally, I would displayed Fahrenheit after the C reading and simply 
blanked the IN-19.

On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:23:36 PM UTC-4, Michail wrote:
>
>  I would think that USA is big/well known enough and probably the largest 
> user of Nixie for fun devices that a programmer would have implemented 
> (easily) a Fahrenheit feature.
>  
> A feature which would take maybe a couple hours (at most) to add, would be 
> smart to open your product open for a wanted item for an entire country.
>  
> It was just a thought.
>  
> Michail 
>  
>  In a message dated 7/3/2012 4:23:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
> cm...@zeusprune.ca writes:
>
> there are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.  if 
> the ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be available.
> -- 
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> cm...@zeusprune.ca  Just Beyond the Fringe
> http://users.trytel.com/~cmacd/tubes.html
>
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Dave]

Done, article retrieved if anyone has questions, just post and I'll answer.

On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 7:23:13 PM UTC-4, charles wrote:
>
> On 12-07-03 06:46 AM, Huggermugger wrote: 
> > Guess temperatures in Centigrades as the designer propably is from 
> > Dutchland (Holland) (Netherlands that is). 
> > I couldn't find (although didn't search long), if it will output F 
> > as well as C?oogle.com/group/neonixie-l?hl=en-GB. 
>
> there are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.  if 
> the ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be available. 
> -- 
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> cm...@zeusprune.ca  Just Beyond the Fringe 
> http://users.trytel.com/~cmacd/tubes.html 
> No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. 
>
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Lucky]

Still makes me laugh, here in the UK people use Fahrenheit when describing 
'hot' days but Centigrade when 'cold'!
Anyway I think it should be measured in 'Kelvins' ;)  

On Wednesday, 4 July 2012 05:20:32 UTC+1, Dave wrote:
>
> In the article, the author states that F is not on the IN-19 tube he used 
> and that is why there is no Fahrenheit feature.
> Personally, I would displayed Fahrenheit after the C reading and simply 
> blanked the IN-19.
>
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2012 9:23:36 PM UTC-4, Michail wrote:
>>
>>  I would think that USA is big/well known enough and probably the 
>> largest user of Nixie for fun devices that a programmer would have 
>> implemented (easily) a Fahrenheit feature.
>>  
>> A feature which would take maybe a couple hours (at most) to add, would 
>> be smart to open your product open for a wanted item for an entire country.
>>  
>> It was just a thought.
>>  
>> Michail 
>>  
>>  In a message dated 7/3/2012 4:23:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
>> cm...@zeusprune.ca writes:
>>
>> there are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.  if 
>> the ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be available.
>> -- 
>> Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario
>> 
>>
>>

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Frank Bemelman]

If we keep supporting Fahrenheit you poor guys never
get rid of it ;-) Next items on the agenda is 60Hz for Europe
and driving on the right for the English. Let's do it.
Good for the economy as well...

Frank

From: micha...@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:23 AM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal


I would think that USA is big/well known enough and probably the largest 
user of Nixie for fun devices that a programmer would have implemented 
(easily) a Fahrenheit feature.


A feature which would take maybe a couple hours (at most) to add, would be 
smart to open your product open for a wanted item for an entire country.


It was just a thought.

Michail

In a message dated 7/3/2012 4:23:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
cm...@zeusprune.ca writes:

there are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.  if
the ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be available.
--
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cm...@zeusprune.ca  Just Beyond the Fringe
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Nick]

On Wednesday, 4 July 2012 05:28:41 UTC+1, Lucky wrote:
>
> Still makes me laugh, here in the UK people use Fahrenheit when describing 
> 'hot' days but Centigrade when 'cold'!
> Anyway I think it should be measured in 'Kelvins' ;)  
>

No-one that I know of in the UK still uses degrees F, except superannuated 
old fogies who still believe we have an empire...

The only thing you need to know is that the BBC and the Queen use degrees 
C... I rest my case... 

...though we use imperial measures for length (but often also metric) and 
distance, speed & area, volume of draught beer and milk (but not petrol) 
etc. simple really.

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Huggermugger]

Having made 4 major tours in the States, I am rather used to Fahrenheights 
(but not Rocky Mountain), inches, gallons and miles, so IF Elektor could 
offer both F and C, that would be nice. On the other hand, my more 
physicistisch ego would like to see some Kelvins here.


Magnus

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From: "Frank Bemelman" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal



If we keep supporting Fahrenheit you poor guys never
get rid of it ;-) Next items on the agenda is 60Hz for Europe
and driving on the right for the English. Let's do it.
Good for the economy as well...

Frank

From: micha...@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:23 AM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal


I would think that USA is big/well known enough and probably the largest 
user of Nixie for fun devices that a programmer would have implemented 
(easily) a Fahrenheit feature.


A feature which would take maybe a couple hours (at most) to add, would be 
smart to open your product open for a wanted item for an entire country.


It was just a thought.

Michail

In a message dated 7/3/2012 4:23:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
cm...@zeusprune.ca writes:

there are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.  if
the ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be available.
--
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cm...@zeusprune.ca  Just Beyond the Fringe
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[John Rehwinkel]

> Having made 4 major tours in the States, I am rather used to Fahrenheights 
> (but not Rocky Mountain), inches, gallons and miles, so IF Elektor could 
> offer both F and C, that would be nice. On the other hand, my more 
> physicistisch ego would like to see some Kelvins here.

Doesn't anybody want Rankine?

- John

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Nick]

On Wednesday, 4 July 2012 11:50:51 UTC+1, Soundbrigade wrote:
>
> Having made 4 major tours in the States, I am rather used to Fahrenheights 
> (but not Rocky Mountain), inches, gallons and miles, so IF Elektor could 
> offer both F and C, that would be nice. On the other hand, my more 
> physicistisch ego would like to see some Kelvins here. 


This is the joy of DIY - use the Elektor project as your inspiration and do 
your own thing based on it.

Far easier - the reason most of us design/build own own stuff is that 
everything else is a compromise - someone else's view of what we want.

30 years ago I used to build my own speakers - now I'm just getting back 
into that as I'm unhappy with paying someone else a lot of money to give me 
not quite what I asked for! 

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RE: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Tidak Ada]

Kelvin is possible with the IN-19A It has a 'K' ;) 

-Original Message-
From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Huggermugger
Sent: woensdag 4 juli 2012 12:51
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

Having made 4 major tours in the States, I am rather used to Fahrenheights
(but not Rocky Mountain), inches, gallons and miles, so IF Elektor could
offer both F and C, that would be nice. On the other hand, my more
physicistisch ego would like to see some Kelvins here.

Magnus

- Original Message -
From: "Frank Bemelman" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal


> If we keep supporting Fahrenheit you poor guys never
> get rid of it ;-) Next items on the agenda is 60Hz for Europe
> and driving on the right for the English. Let's do it.
> Good for the economy as well...
>
> Frank
>
> From: micha...@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:23 AM
> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
>
>
> I would think that USA is big/well known enough and probably the largest 
> user of Nixie for fun devices that a programmer would have implemented 
> (easily) a Fahrenheit feature.
>
> A feature which would take maybe a couple hours (at most) to add, would be

> smart to open your product open for a wanted item for an entire country.
>
> It was just a thought.
>
> Michail
>
> In a message dated 7/3/2012 4:23:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
> cm...@zeusprune.ca writes:
> there are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.  if
> the ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be available.
> -- 
> Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario
> cm...@zeusprune.ca  Just Beyond the Fringe
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[jb-electronics]

Yeah, but it is a small prefix k, I think it is easy to see when used 
with numerals.


Jens


Kelvin is possible with the IN-19A It has a 'K' ;)

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Behalf Of Huggermugger
Sent: woensdag 4 juli 2012 12:51
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

Having made 4 major tours in the States, I am rather used to Fahrenheights
(but not Rocky Mountain), inches, gallons and miles, so IF Elektor could
offer both F and C, that would be nice. On the other hand, my more
physicistisch ego would like to see some Kelvins here.

Magnus

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From: "Frank Bemelman" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal



If we keep supporting Fahrenheit you poor guys never
get rid of it ;-) Next items on the agenda is 60Hz for Europe
and driving on the right for the English. Let's do it.
Good for the economy as well...

Frank

From: micha...@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:23 AM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal


I would think that USA is big/well known enough and probably the largest
user of Nixie for fun devices that a programmer would have implemented
(easily) a Fahrenheit feature.

A feature which would take maybe a couple hours (at most) to add, would be
smart to open your product open for a wanted item for an entire country.

It was just a thought.

Michail

In a message dated 7/3/2012 4:23:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
cm...@zeusprune.ca writes:
there are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.  if
the ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be available.
--
Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario
cm...@zeusprune.ca  Just Beyond the Fringe
http://users.trytel.com/~cmacd/tubes.html


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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Lucky]

UK
Liquid volume: pints for fresh milk but litres for evaporated-pints for 
beer but millilitres/mills for spirits

Distance/length: miles/yards/feet for distance but metres/centimetres for 
building materials (and drawings)

Weight: Lbs/ounces for produce (and sometimes grammes but we wont go into 
that) but kilos for body weight ('cept for 'old fogies' who still use 
stones)

Ask someone how long a cable you need they will answer in feet but we buy 
it per metre

We say a car is 10ft long but measure its boot capacity in litres, engine 
capacity in litres but still talk of horsepower

People talk of 1/4 of a %! (That to me is the 'best' one, combining 
fractions with metrics)
No wonder we can be a mixed up lot, we will drag ourselves into the 20th 
century kicking and screaming (Might get to the 21st someday too)

Nick you *know* what the queen uses?! 
Anyway if you want Fahrenheit just remember Tf = (9/5)*Tc+32, simples ;)


On Wednesday, 4 July 2012 10:58:23 UTC+1, Nick wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 4 July 2012 05:28:41 UTC+1, Lucky wrote:
>>
>> Still makes me laugh, here in the UK people use Fahrenheit when 
>> describing 'hot' days but Centigrade when 'cold'!
>> Anyway I think it should be measured in 'Kelvins' ;)  
>>
>
> No-one that I know of in the UK still uses degrees F, except superannuated 
> old fogies who still believe we have an empire...
>
> The only thing you need to know is that the BBC and the Queen use degrees 
> C... I rest my case... 
>
> ...though we use imperial measures for length (but often also metric) and 
> distance, speed & area, volume of draught beer and milk (but not petrol) 
> etc. simple really.
>

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RE: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Tidak Ada]

A 

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Yeah, but it is a small prefix k, I think it is easy to see when used with
numerals.

Jens

> Kelvin is possible with the IN-19A It has a 'K' ;)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] 
> On Behalf Of Huggermugger
> Sent: woensdag 4 juli 2012 12:51
> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
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>
> Having made 4 major tours in the States, I am rather used to 
> Fahrenheights (but not Rocky Mountain), inches, gallons and miles, so 
> IF Elektor could offer both F and C, that would be nice. On the other 
> hand, my more physicistisch ego would like to see some Kelvins here.
>
> Magnus
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Frank Bemelman" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 8:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
>
>
>> If we keep supporting Fahrenheit you poor guys never get rid of it 
>> ;-) Next items on the agenda is 60Hz for Europe and driving on the 
>> right for the English. Let's do it.
>> Good for the economy as well...
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> From: micha...@aol.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:23 AM
>> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
>>
>>
>> I would think that USA is big/well known enough and probably the 
>> largest user of Nixie for fun devices that a programmer would have 
>> implemented
>> (easily) a Fahrenheit feature.
>>
>> A feature which would take maybe a couple hours (at most) to add, 
>> would be smart to open your product open for a wanted item for an entire
country.
>>
>> It was just a thought.
>>
>> Michail
>>
>> In a message dated 7/3/2012 4:23:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
>> cm...@zeusprune.ca writes:
>> there are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.  
>> if the ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be available.
>> -- 
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>> http://users.trytel.com/~cmacd/tubes.html
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RE: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Tidak Ada]

As far as I remember, it is a small capital K, not a lower case...

eric

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Yeah, but it is a small prefix k, I think it is easy to see when used with
numerals.

Jens

> Kelvin is possible with the IN-19A It has a 'K' ;)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] 
> On Behalf Of Huggermugger
> Sent: woensdag 4 juli 2012 12:51
> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
>
> Having made 4 major tours in the States, I am rather used to 
> Fahrenheights (but not Rocky Mountain), inches, gallons and miles, so 
> IF Elektor could offer both F and C, that would be nice. On the other 
> hand, my more physicistisch ego would like to see some Kelvins here.
>
> Magnus
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Frank Bemelman" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 8:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
>
>
>> If we keep supporting Fahrenheit you poor guys never get rid of it 
>> ;-) Next items on the agenda is 60Hz for Europe and driving on the 
>> right for the English. Let's do it.
>> Good for the economy as well...
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> From: micha...@aol.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:23 AM
>> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
>>
>>
>> I would think that USA is big/well known enough and probably the 
>> largest user of Nixie for fun devices that a programmer would have 
>> implemented
>> (easily) a Fahrenheit feature.
>>
>> A feature which would take maybe a couple hours (at most) to add, 
>> would be smart to open your product open for a wanted item for an entire
country.
>>
>> It was just a thought.
>>
>> Michail
>>
>> In a message dated 7/3/2012 4:23:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
>> cm...@zeusprune.ca writes:
>> there are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.  
>> if the ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be available.
>> -- 
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>> cm...@zeusprune.ca  Just Beyond the Fringe
>> http://users.trytel.com/~cmacd/tubes.html
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[John Rehwinkel]

> Liquid volume: pints for fresh milk but litres for evaporated-pints for beer 
> but millilitres/mills for spirits

No more nipperkins or brown bulls?  Alas.

> Distance/length: miles/yards/feet for distance but metres/centimetres for 
> building materials (and drawings)

Back when I took drafting courses, everything was in millimeters.  Or 
millimetres.

> Ask someone how long a cable you need they will answer in feet but we buy it 
> per metre

Apparently jute cord is still sold by weight here.  Which rather boggles me.

> We say a car is 10ft long but measure its boot capacity in litres, engine 
> capacity in litres but still talk of horsepower

I see engine capacity measured in kilowatts, but torque in pound-feet.

> People talk of 1/4 of a %! (That to me is the 'best' one, combining fractions 
> with metrics)

My favourite mixed one is tyres - for example, P225/60R17.  That's a 225 
millimeter wide tyre for a 17 inch wheel,
with a 60% aspect ratio.  That's just nuts.

> No wonder we can be a mixed up lot, we will drag ourselves into the 20th 
> century kicking and screaming (Might get to the 21st someday too)

Agreed!  As I got into electronics at an early age, I was already familiar with 
the prefixes (pico, micro, milli, kilo, mega, and so forth).  For some
reason, "nano" seemed to get left out for a while (as "pico" did, back in the 
days when a 200pf capacitor would be referred to as a "200mmf condenser").

> Anyway if you want Fahrenheit just remember Tf = (9/5)*Tc+32, simples ;)

I figure people who prefer Fahrenheit probably aren't terribly particular about 
accuracy, so I approximate Tf = 2⋅Tc.

Then again, I like to give my age in hexadecimal.

- John

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[jb-electronics]

It was used for prefixes, like kOhm or something like that, so that is 
why I think of it as a lower case. But it is not so clear to me anymore:


http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/data/IN-19A/in-19a-l-k.jpg

Weird font, don't know if it is supposed to be upper or lower case ;-)

Jens


As far as I remember, it is a small capital K, not a lower case...

eric

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Yeah, but it is a small prefix k, I think it is easy to see when used with
numerals.

Jens


Kelvin is possible with the IN-19A It has a 'K' ;)

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On Behalf Of Huggermugger
Sent: woensdag 4 juli 2012 12:51
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

Having made 4 major tours in the States, I am rather used to
Fahrenheights (but not Rocky Mountain), inches, gallons and miles, so
IF Elektor could offer both F and C, that would be nice. On the other
hand, my more physicistisch ego would like to see some Kelvins here.

Magnus

- Original Message -
From: "Frank Bemelman" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal



If we keep supporting Fahrenheit you poor guys never get rid of it
;-) Next items on the agenda is 60Hz for Europe and driving on the
right for the English. Let's do it.
Good for the economy as well...

Frank

From: micha...@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:23 AM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal


I would think that USA is big/well known enough and probably the
largest user of Nixie for fun devices that a programmer would have
implemented
(easily) a Fahrenheit feature.

A feature which would take maybe a couple hours (at most) to add,
would be smart to open your product open for a wanted item for an entire

country.

It was just a thought.

Michail

In a message dated 7/3/2012 4:23:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
cm...@zeusprune.ca writes:
there are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.
if the ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be available.
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Michail1]

John,
 
I thought about Tires as well.  Funny you brought it up.
 
So you know, we are in the 21st century.  At least most of us.   :)
 
Michail  
 

In a message dated 7/4/2012 11:16:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
jreh...@mac.com writes:

> No  wonder we can be a mixed up lot, we will drag ourselves into the 20th 
century  kicking and screaming (Might get to the 21st someday  too)


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RE: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Bill van Dijk]

Upper case. Kelvin is a proper name. Examples:

Ohm
Ampere
Diesel
Etc

> -Original Message-
> From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of jb-electronics
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 2:19 PM
> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
> 
> It was used for prefixes, like kOhm or something like that, so that is
> why I think of it as a lower case. But it is not so clear to me
> anymore:
> 
> http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/data/IN-19A/in-19a-l-k.jpg
> 
> Weird font, don't know if it is supposed to be upper or lower case ;-)
> 
> Jens
> 
> > As far as I remember, it is a small capital K, not a lower case...
> >
> > eric
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-
> l...@googlegroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of jb-electronics
> > Sent: woensdag 4 juli 2012 15:45
> > To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
> >
> > Yeah, but it is a small prefix k, I think it is easy to see when used
> > with numerals.
> >
> > Jens
> >
> >> Kelvin is possible with the IN-19A It has a 'K' ;)
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> >> [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com]
> >> On Behalf Of Huggermugger
> >> Sent: woensdag 4 juli 2012 12:51
> >> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
> >>
> >> Having made 4 major tours in the States, I am rather used to
> >> Fahrenheights (but not Rocky Mountain), inches, gallons and miles,
> so
> >> IF Elektor could offer both F and C, that would be nice. On the
> other
> >> hand, my more physicistisch ego would like to see some Kelvins here.
> >>
> >> Magnus
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Frank Bemelman" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 8:59 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
> >>
> >>
> >>> If we keep supporting Fahrenheit you poor guys never get rid of it
> >>> ;-) Next items on the agenda is 60Hz for Europe and driving on the
> >>> right for the English. Let's do it.
> >>> Good for the economy as well...
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>>
> >>> From: micha...@aol.com
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:23 AM
> >>> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I would think that USA is big/well known enough and probably the
> >>> largest user of Nixie for fun devices that a programmer would have
> >>> implemented
> >>> (easily) a Fahrenheit feature.
> >>>
> >>> A feature which would take maybe a couple hours (at most) to add,
> >>> would be smart to open your product open for a wanted item for an
> >>> entire
> > country.
> >>> It was just a thought.
> >>>
> >>> Michail
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 7/3/2012 4:23:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> >>> cm...@zeusprune.ca writes:
> >>> there are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.
> >>> if the ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be
> available.
> >>> --
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> >>> cm...@zeusprune.ca  Just Beyond the Fringe
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Charles MacDonald]

On 12-07-04 02:59 AM, Frank Bemelman wrote:

If we keep supporting Fahrenheit you poor guys never
get rid of it ;-)


When Canada "went Metric" there was a change of Government who decided 
that " the freedom to measure is a measure of your freedom" and so they 
backed away from some of the plans.  We can still buy a 454g package of 
Butter for example but not a half Kilo.



Next items on the agenda is 60Hz for Europe


If you are going to make the change why not go to 400Hz?  Save "Ton" of 
Copper in transformers.



and driving on the right for the English. Let's do it.
Good for the economy as well...


Countries who have switched found it good for the Auto Body repair 
business for a few days.  Actually the Brits, OZ and New Zelland and 
Japan drive on the left, so it is not just the UK.



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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[JohnK]

I have an old 'condenser' marked in cm [centimetre/centimeter].
One recent doc explaining this early use of centimeter ...
http://web.mit.edu/sahughes/www/8.022/lec06.pdf
"In cgs units, we measure charge in esu and potential in esu/cm. The unit of 
capacitance is thus just the centimeter!"


jk


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...clip.
Agreed!  As I got into electronics at an early age, I was already familiar 
with the prefixes (pico, micro, milli, kilo, mega, and so forth).  For some
reason, "nano" seemed to get left out for a while (as "pico" did, back in 
the days when a 200pf capacitor would be referred to as a "200mmf 
condenser").


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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[John Rehwinkel]

>> Next items on the agenda is 60Hz for Europe
> 
> If you are going to make the change why not go to 400Hz?  Save "Ton" of 
> Copper in transformers.

And smaller capacitors, less lamp flicker, easy inductive chargers, and all 
sorts of good things.  There's been some research on electrical effects on 
living tissue, and it
turns out that the 50-60Hz range is actually one of the more damaging ones, as 
luck would have it.  400Hz would be a big
improvement in that respect as well.

I've heard objections that 400Hz has a shorter wavelength, and would make long 
distance power transmission more difficult,
but it turns out that doesn't necessarily apply, as much long distance power 
transmission is done via DC these days, now that
high-powered silicon is available to convert between AC and DC.

And half-wave rectified 400Hz makes a dandy nixie power supply - flicker is 
much less of a problem.  (to drag this thread
somewhere back on topic)

- John

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RE: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Tidak Ada]

Mystery of the small K is solved: The tubes is developed to use in Cyrillic.
In Cyrillic the lower case k has the same shape as the upper case K but is
smaller [ http://www.hts-homepage.de/Suchen.html }.

But what does it matter if you use it as a K in your thermometer ?

Further: The IN-19B has an F, but unfortunately not in combination with ° It
is also missing the %. Up to you to use both the tubes if you insist to show
your temperature in F

eric


-Original Message-
From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Bill van Dijk
Sent: donderdag 5 juli 2012 3:57
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

Upper case. Kelvin is a proper name. Examples:

Ohm
Ampere
Diesel
Etc

> -Original Message-
> From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of jb-electronics
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 2:19 PM
> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
> 
> It was used for prefixes, like kOhm or something like that, so that is 
> why I think of it as a lower case. But it is not so clear to me
> anymore:
> 
> http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/data/IN-19A/in-19a-l-k.jpg
> 
> Weird font, don't know if it is supposed to be upper or lower case ;-)
> 
> Jens
> 
> > As far as I remember, it is a small capital K, not a lower case...
> >
> > eric
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-
> l...@googlegroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of jb-electronics
> > Sent: woensdag 4 juli 2012 15:45
> > To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
> >
> > Yeah, but it is a small prefix k, I think it is easy to see when 
> > used with numerals.
> >
> > Jens
> >
> >> Kelvin is possible with the IN-19A It has a 'K' ;)
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> >> [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com]
> >> On Behalf Of Huggermugger
> >> Sent: woensdag 4 juli 2012 12:51
> >> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
> >>
> >> Having made 4 major tours in the States, I am rather used to 
> >> Fahrenheights (but not Rocky Mountain), inches, gallons and miles,
> so
> >> IF Elektor could offer both F and C, that would be nice. On the
> other
> >> hand, my more physicistisch ego would like to see some Kelvins here.
> >>
> >> Magnus
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Frank Bemelman" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 8:59 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
> >>
> >>
> >>> If we keep supporting Fahrenheit you poor guys never get rid of it
> >>> ;-) Next items on the agenda is 60Hz for Europe and driving on the 
> >>> right for the English. Let's do it.
> >>> Good for the economy as well...
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>>
> >>> From: micha...@aol.com
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:23 AM
> >>> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I would think that USA is big/well known enough and probably the 
> >>> largest user of Nixie for fun devices that a programmer would have 
> >>> implemented
> >>> (easily) a Fahrenheit feature.
> >>>
> >>> A feature which would take maybe a couple hours (at most) to add, 
> >>> would be smart to open your product open for a wanted item for an 
> >>> entire
> > country.
> >>> It was just a thought.
> >>>
> >>> Michail
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 7/3/2012 4:23:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
> >>> cm...@zeusprune.ca writes:
> >>> there are only a few locations worldwide that still use Fahrenheit.
> >>> if the ability is not mentioned, I would not exapet it to be
> available.
> >>> --
> >>> Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario
> >>> cm...@zeusprune.ca  Just Beyond the Fringe
> >>> http://users.trytel.com/~cmacd/tubes.html
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[jb-electronics]

That is funny, I once read an old scientific paper where they talked 
about capacities measured in centimeters and I was very confused because 
I am used to SI. Then I remembered the formula to calculate the capacity 
(you know, C = e0*e*A/d) and thought: Hey, they might be using a system 
where the e0 is set to unity, and so it was... ;-)


Jens


I have an old 'condenser' marked in cm [centimetre/centimeter].
One recent doc explaining this early use of centimeter ...
http://web.mit.edu/sahughes/www/8.022/lec06.pdf
"In cgs units, we measure charge in esu and potential in esu/cm. The 
unit of capacitance is thus just the centimeter!"


jk


- Original Message - From: "John Rehwinkel" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal


...clip.
Agreed!  As I got into electronics at an early age, I was already 
familiar with the prefixes (pico, micro, milli, kilo, mega, and so 
forth).  For some
reason, "nano" seemed to get left out for a while (as "pico" did, back 
in the days when a 200pf capacitor would be referred to as a "200mmf 
condenser").


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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Lucky]

I hadn't even thought about tire sizes...
and leave 'our' 50hz alone haha, out of interest though this is from the 
Institute 
of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE)  "There is speculation that 
the value of 50 Hz was chosen in Europe as being an element in the metric 
“Series of Preferred Numbers,” proposed by the French army engineer Charles 
Renard in the 1870s. Indeed, the R10 series, consisting of the following 
rounded values 10, 12.5, 16, 20, 25, 31.5, 40, 50, 63, 80, 100...See so we 
went with metric way back! Now to go and grab my 'yard stick'


"So you know, we are in the 21st century.  At least most of us.  :)" That's 
why I said 20th century! (Tongue in cheek) 







 







"On Wednesday, 4 July 2012 19:21:57 UTC+1, Michail wrote:
>
>  John,
>  
> I thought about Tires as well.  Funny you brought it up.
>  
> So you know, we are in the 21st century.  At least most of us.  :)
>  
> Michail 
>  
> In a message dated 7/4/2012 11:16:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
> jreh...@mac.com writes:
>
> > No wonder we can be a mixed up lot, we will drag ourselves into the 20th 
> century kicking and screaming (Might get to the 21st someday too)
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[John Rehwinkel]

> sorry for opening an old post (2012?) but I couldn't see any others and 
> didn't think it with opening a new thread.
> I'm not the smartest hobby electronics person but I do enjoy tinkering : )
> I have been building one of these to add to my small (so far) collection of 
> nixie clocks etc.
> 
> I have the main pcb finished and need to mount the sensor to it's pcb.
> Because it is smd I want to use the 'heated skillet and solder paste' method 
> but I am not sure which way to orientate the chip to the board.

This is the one with the SHT21 sensor on the little daughter board?  The NC 
pins are pins 3 and 4, and
the unconnected pads are the ones toward the through-hole pins.  To put it 
another way, the notch (cut
corner) on the die pad on the bottom should point away from the through hole 
pins, and the sensor
opening on the top of the chip should point toward the through hole pins.

> Can anyone advise please particularly if they have a photo of one?  I 
> consider myself to be Kinesthetic as I learn and understand better by 
> watching rather than reading or hearing hence the photo would be good.

I don't have this kit, so I can't take a photo, but if it would help, I can 
make up a diagram showing the placement
of the chip.

- John

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RE: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Tidak Ada]

There are several makes of the SHT21 one is fitted on a small SMD print, but
an other on has an elongated print with header pins. Further there is a
Arduni compatable and an I²C compatable type.
I am busy to re-develop the original design to extend it with a real time
clock as a reference for shut off the nixies at night a nightly scan of the
nixies to avoid cthode poisoning, a PIR sensor to activate the hv when a
person enters the room or unit at darkness. Fianlly I use the more charming
IN17 instead of the IN14's that have became scarse and expensive. The high
voltage will be derived from the more efficiënt and smaller Taylor supply.
The sensor comes outside the case to get a more reliable read-out (no
warming up by the components inside) or in a 'tunnel' with mechanic
ventilation.

eric

-Original Message-
From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of John Rehwinkel
Sent: zaterdag 10 mei 2014 13:57
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

> sorry for opening an old post (2012?) but I couldn't see any others and
didn't think it with opening a new thread.
> I'm not the smartest hobby electronics person but I do enjoy tinkering 
> : ) I have been building one of these to add to my small (so far)
collection of nixie clocks etc.
> 
> I have the main pcb finished and need to mount the sensor to it's pcb.
> Because it is smd I want to use the 'heated skillet and solder paste'
method but I am not sure which way to orientate the chip to the board.

This is the one with the SHT21 sensor on the little daughter board?  The NC
pins are pins 3 and 4, and the unconnected pads are the ones toward the
through-hole pins.  To put it another way, the notch (cut
corner) on the die pad on the bottom should point away from the through hole
pins, and the sensor opening on the top of the chip should point toward the
through hole pins.

> Can anyone advise please particularly if they have a photo of one?  I
consider myself to be Kinesthetic as I learn and understand better by
watching rather than reading or hearing hence the photo would be good.

I don't have this kit, so I can't take a photo, but if it would help, I can
make up a diagram showing the placement of the chip.

- John

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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[electrofish]

On Saturday, May 10, 2014 1:18:24 PM UTC+1, Tidak Ada wrote:
>
> There are several makes of the SHT21 one is fitted on a small SMD print, 
> but 
> an other on has an elongated print with header pins. Further there is a 
> Arduni compatable and an I²C compatable type. 
> I am busy to re-develop the original design to extend it with a real time 
> clock as a reference for shut off the nixies at night a nightly scan of 
> the 
> nixies to avoid cthode poisoning, a PIR sensor to activate the hv when a 
> person enters the room or unit at darkness. Fianlly I use the more 
> charming 
> IN17 instead of the IN14's that have became scarse and expensive. The high 
> voltage will be derived from the more efficiënt and smaller Taylor supply. 
> The sensor comes outside the case to get a more reliable read-out (no 
> warming up by the components inside) or in a 'tunnel' with mechanic 
> ventilation. 
>
> eric 
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: neoni...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> neoni...@googlegroups.com ] On 
> Behalf Of John Rehwinkel 
> Sent: zaterdag 10 mei 2014 13:57 
> To: neoni...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal 
>
> > sorry for opening an old post (2012?) but I couldn't see any others and 
> didn't think it with opening a new thread. 
> > I'm not the smartest hobby electronics person but I do enjoy tinkering 
> > : ) I have been building one of these to add to my small (so far) 
> collection of nixie clocks etc. 
> > 
> > I have the main pcb finished and need to mount the sensor to it's pcb. 
> > Because it is smd I want to use the 'heated skillet and solder paste' 
> method but I am not sure which way to orientate the chip to the board. 
>
> This is the one with the SHT21 sensor on the little daughter board?  The 
> NC 
> pins are pins 3 and 4, and the unconnected pads are the ones toward the 
> through-hole pins.  To put it another way, the notch (cut 
> corner) on the die pad on the bottom should point away from the through 
> hole 
> pins, and the sensor opening on the top of the chip should point toward 
> the 
> through hole pins. 
>
> > Can anyone advise please particularly if they have a photo of one?  I 
> consider myself to be Kinesthetic as I learn and understand better by 
> watching rather than reading or hearing hence the photo would be good. 
>
> I don't have this kit, so I can't take a photo, but if it would help, I 
> can 
> make up a diagram showing the placement of the chip. 
>
> - John 
>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[John Sturgeon]

Eric
many thanks for you reply.  I replied to John Rehwinkel so you can see why
it took a while to respond.
Your design sounds exciting and another addition to my collection when you
are finished : )
Regards
John



On 10 May 2014 13:18, Tidak Ada  wrote:

> There are several makes of the SHT21 one is fitted on a small SMD print,
> but
> an other on has an elongated print with header pins. Further there is a
> Arduni compatable and an I²C compatable type.
> I am busy to re-develop the original design to extend it with a real time
> clock as a reference for shut off the nixies at night a nightly scan of the
> nixies to avoid cthode poisoning, a PIR sensor to activate the hv when a
> person enters the room or unit at darkness. Fianlly I use the more charming
> IN17 instead of the IN14's that have became scarse and expensive. The high
> voltage will be derived from the more efficiënt and smaller Taylor supply.
> The sensor comes outside the case to get a more reliable read-out (no
> warming up by the components inside) or in a 'tunnel' with mechanic
> ventilation.
>
> eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of John Rehwinkel
> Sent: zaterdag 10 mei 2014 13:57
> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
>
> > sorry for opening an old post (2012?) but I couldn't see any others and
> didn't think it with opening a new thread.
> > I'm not the smartest hobby electronics person but I do enjoy tinkering
> > : ) I have been building one of these to add to my small (so far)
> collection of nixie clocks etc.
> >
> > I have the main pcb finished and need to mount the sensor to it's pcb.
> > Because it is smd I want to use the 'heated skillet and solder paste'
> method but I am not sure which way to orientate the chip to the board.
>
> This is the one with the SHT21 sensor on the little daughter board?  The NC
> pins are pins 3 and 4, and the unconnected pads are the ones toward the
> through-hole pins.  To put it another way, the notch (cut
> corner) on the die pad on the bottom should point away from the through
> hole
> pins, and the sensor opening on the top of the chip should point toward the
> through hole pins.
>
> > Can anyone advise please particularly if they have a photo of one?  I
> consider myself to be Kinesthetic as I learn and understand better by
> watching rather than reading or hearing hence the photo would be good.
>
> I don't have this kit, so I can't take a photo, but if it would help, I can
> make up a diagram showing the placement of the chip.
>
> - John
>
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[electrofish]

John
many thanks for your reply.  Sorry for not answering straight away but a 
small matter of my daughter's wedding on Saturday kept me occupied.

OK  Something happened to the original reply and all I did was copy 
something else, so here goes a again

I have attached a phot taken with my USB microscope with the sensor placed, 
not soldered on to the small pcb.  Hopefully That matches your description.
I shall remove the cap before reflow.

Regards
John

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[electrofish]

It's not a good day for my internet connection so the reply went haywire 
before I could attach the photo
Third time lucky


On Tuesday, May 13, 2014 11:52:39 AM UTC+1, electrofish wrote:
>
> John
> many thanks for your reply.  Sorry for not answering straight away but a 
> small matter of my daughter's wedding on Saturday kept me occupied.
>
> OK  Something happened to the original reply and all I did was copy 
> something else, so here goes a again
>
> I have attached a phot taken with my USB microscope with the sensor 
> placed, not soldered on to the small pcb.  Hopefully That matches your 
> description.
> I shall remove the cap before reflow.
>
> Regards
> John
>

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[petehand]

I had a bit of trouble finding the SHT21 in the US - all I could find from 
Sensirion was a *Parallax module at $43 
* - 
but the *SI7020-A10 from Silicon Labs 
*appears to 
be an exact equivalent for $3.50.

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[electrofish]

I did to.  I'm in the UK and the only supplier I could find was Farnell at 
a whopping £18.83 but now they are for sale at £2.91.
Depressing as the first I bought I destroyed : (

I think an email to Farnell is in order to find out why the price 
difference.
Regards
John

On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:37:42 AM UTC+1, petehand wrote:
>
> I had a bit of trouble finding the SHT21 in the US - all I could find from 
> Sensirion was a *Parallax module at $43 
> * - 
> but the *SI7020-A10 from Silicon Labs 
> *appears 
> to be an exact equivalent for $3.50.
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RE: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Tidak Ada]

eBay shows enough of them here an example : # 320724594666
 
I will advice to get the complete datasheet first. Here the website: [
www.sensirion.com ]
 
eric

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To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
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I did to.  I'm in the UK and the only supplier I could find was Farnell at a
whopping £18.83 but now they are for sale at £2.91.
Depressing as the first I bought I destroyed : (

I think an email to Farnell is in order to find out why the price
difference.
Regards
John

On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:37:42 AM UTC+1, petehand wrote: 

I had a bit of trouble finding the SHT21 in the US - all I could find from
Sensirion was a Parallax module at $43
<http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?vendor=0&keywords=sensirion>  -
but the SI7020-A10 from Silicon Labs
<http://www.silabs.com/Support%20Documents/TechnicalDocs/Si7020.pdf>
appears to be an exact equivalent for $3.50.


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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[electrofish]

Emailed Farnell.
Farnell came back and said " Sensirion have reduced significantly the 
pricing on this part to all the market last month"
So £2.91 it is then
Regards
John

On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:07:28 AM UTC+1, electrofish wrote:
>
> I did to.  I'm in the UK and the only supplier I could find was Farnell at 
> a whopping £18.83 but now they are for sale at £2.91.
> Depressing as the first I bought I destroyed : (
>
> I think an email to Farnell is in order to find out why the price 
> difference.
> Regards
> John
>
> On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:37:42 AM UTC+1, petehand wrote:
>>
>> I had a bit of trouble finding the SHT21 in the US - all I could find 
>> from Sensirion was a *Parallax module at $43 
>> *- but 
>> the *SI7020-A10 
>> from Silicon Labs 
>> *appears 
>> to be an exact equivalent for $3.50.
>>
>

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RE: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Tidak Ada]

Roland,
 
Kijk even naar het bericht op NEONIXIE. Gigantische prijsverlaging van de
SHT21!!
 
Grtz.,
 
eric

  _  

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of electrofish
Sent: woensdag 14 mei 2014 15:00
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal


Emailed Farnell.
Farnell came back and said " Sensirion have reduced significantly the
pricing on this part to all the market last month"
So £2.91 it is then
Regards
John

On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:07:28 AM UTC+1, electrofish wrote: 

I did to.  I'm in the UK and the only supplier I could find was Farnell at a
whopping £18.83 but now they are for sale at £2.91.
Depressing as the first I bought I destroyed : (

I think an email to Farnell is in order to find out why the price
difference.
Regards
John

On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:37:42 AM UTC+1, petehand wrote: 

I had a bit of trouble finding the SHT21 in the US - all I could find from
Sensirion was a Parallax module at $43
<http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?vendor=0&keywords=sensirion>  -
but the SI7020-A10 from Silicon Labs
<http://www.silabs.com/Support%20Documents/TechnicalDocs/Si7020.pdf>
appears to be an exact equivalent for $3.50.


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RE: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Tidak Ada]

Sorry, had to be sent to a friend
 
e.

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Roland,
 
Kijk even naar het bericht op NEONIXIE. Gigantische prijsverlaging van de
SHT21!!
 
Grtz.,
 
eric

  _  

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of electrofish
Sent: woensdag 14 mei 2014 15:00
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal


Emailed Farnell.
Farnell came back and said " Sensirion have reduced significantly the
pricing on this part to all the market last month"
So £2.91 it is then
Regards
John

On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:07:28 AM UTC+1, electrofish wrote: 

I did to.  I'm in the UK and the only supplier I could find was Farnell at a
whopping £18.83 but now they are for sale at £2.91.
Depressing as the first I bought I destroyed : (

I think an email to Farnell is in order to find out why the price
difference.
Regards
John

On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:37:42 AM UTC+1, petehand wrote: 

I had a bit of trouble finding the SHT21 in the US - all I could find from
Sensirion was a Parallax module at $43
<http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?vendor=0&keywords=sensirion>  -
but the SI7020-A10 from Silicon Labs
<http://www.silabs.com/Support%20Documents/TechnicalDocs/Si7020.pdf>
appears to be an exact equivalent for $3.50.


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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[John Sturgeon]

That's OK.  At least someone enjoyed the good news LOL
John


On 14 May 2014 15:56, Tidak Ada  wrote:

>  Sorry, had to be sent to a friend
>
> e.
>
>  --
> *From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Tidak Ada
> *Sent:* woensdag 14 mei 2014 15:32
> *To:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
>
>  Roland,
>
> Kijk even naar het bericht op NEONIXIE. Gigantische prijsverlaging van de
> SHT21!!
>
> Grtz.,
>
> eric
>
>  --
> *From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *electrofish
> *Sent:* woensdag 14 mei 2014 15:00
> *To:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal
>
>  Emailed Farnell.
> Farnell came back and said " Sensirion have reduced significantly the
> pricing on this part to all the market last month"
> So £2.91 it is then
> Regards
> John
>
> On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:07:28 AM UTC+1, electrofish wrote:
>>
>> I did to.  I'm in the UK and the only supplier I could find was Farnell
>> at a whopping £18.83 but now they are for sale at £2.91.
>> Depressing as the first I bought I destroyed : (
>>
>> I think an email to Farnell is in order to find out why the price
>> difference.
>> Regards
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:37:42 AM UTC+1, petehand wrote:
>>>
>>> I had a bit of trouble finding the SHT21 in the US - all I could find
>>> from Sensirion was a *Parallax module at $43
>>> <http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?vendor=0&keywords=sensirion>*- 
>>> but the *SI7020-A10
>>> from Silicon Labs
>>> <http://www.silabs.com/Support%20Documents/TechnicalDocs/Si7020.pdf>*appears
>>>  to be an exact equivalent for $3.50.
>>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[electrofish]

Update:  Now working perfectly.  Thank you again for the advice.
I must admit to being hyper nervous about the reflow on an electric skillet 
but it worked.  Not bad for a first effort and a £15 skillet, even if I say 
so myself.
I also got a very generous refund on the two sensors I bought before the 
price decrease from Farnell : )  How good is that!
Excellent customer service.
Regards
John

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OT Mixed measure Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Charles MacDonald]

Distance/length: miles/yards/feet for distance but metres/centimetres for 
building materials (and drawings)


gee, It is just the reverse in Canada, with Km for Distance, but things 
like Plywood still come in 4X8 foot sheets to fit on studs spaced at 18 
inches.


Small things may come in either, but they make the Kids come to school 
with rulers that are ONLY in cm to ensure that they learn that system first.



My favourite mixed one is tyres - for example, P225/60R17.  That's a 225 
millimeter wide tyre for a 17 inch wheel,
with a 60% aspect ratio.  That's just nuts.


That is a work in progress, in the 1960's  Tires were sized line 7.50X14 
(7 and a half inches on a 14 inch wheel.)



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Re: OT Mixed measure Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

[Tobias]

My preferred approximation from F to C would be dividing by two but
still taking the 32 into consideration...

What I can't quite understand about the Imperial system is why they
decided to go with 3, 12 and 16.
I.E. 12 inches for a foot, 3 feet makes a yard. And 16 oz a pint. On
top of that all the fractions are 2-related. 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16. Why
not just 10, 100, 1000!?

My biggest embarrassment is to go to a hardware store, stop in front
of the wrenches cabinet and start making mental math just to find out
what is the next bigger size after finding out the one I have in my
hands is a little bit too small! hahahaha

Forget going from square inches to square feet in less than 2 seconds!

Anyway, in Brazil we sell tires just like in USA. Bronze and Stainless
Steel are sized in inches. Mild and special application Steel are in
Metric. Same for Plastics.
All the first big companies came from Germany or Italy (metric) or
England and US (imperial). The country had no regulations at the time
and we got stuck with both! =)


Tobias


On Jul 4, 10:22 pm, Charles MacDonald  wrote:
> >> Distance/length: miles/yards/feet for distance but metres/centimetres for 
> >> building materials (and drawings)
>
> gee, It is just the reverse in Canada, with Km for Distance, but things
> like Plywood still come in 4X8 foot sheets to fit on studs spaced at 18
> inches.
>
> Small things may come in either, but they make the Kids come to school
> with rulers that are ONLY in cm to ensure that they learn that system first.
>
> > My favourite mixed one is tyres - for example, P225/60R17.  That's a 225 
> > millimeter wide tyre for a 17 inch wheel,
> > with a 60% aspect ratio.  That's just nuts.
>
> That is a work in progress, in the 1960's  Tires were sized line 7.50X14
> (7 and a half inches on a 14 inch wheel.)
>
> --
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> cm...@zeusprune.ca              Just Beyond the 
> Fringehttp://users.trytel.com/~cmacd/tubes.html
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