Re: [NetBehaviour] question/s for the list

2019-03-12 Thread Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour
I really appreciate these replies; I've been reading and watching far too
much rhetoric. The BBC, for us, is nothing like Fox news; at least in their
reportage on U.S. affair, BBC Int'l is the best televised source we have.
And I do a lot of news watching. The replies you sent explain a lot; the
surface - what we're seeing here in Parliament (where there are long
broadcasts on BBC) is constant innuendo and repetition, almost magical
repetition, as if doing so would make it so; the interviews are often with
splinter groups which just confuse the thing. The dates confuse the thing.
I love Britain, not saying this lightly, and one of the odd things for me
(and Azure) is the intelligence of all the noise - it's so much more
intelligent than the noise here in the U.S. which so often amounts to
hatred, anti-intellectualism, religion, and bullying. And this isn't just
minority behavior - it's increasingly dominating. As a Jew, I can say we're
dragged into it with the Jewish/Israel craziness - over and over again the
news has to insist that all Jews don't support Israel - but the repetition
serves otherwise. It's a real problem for the Democrats at this point...
(For myself, the last time I was in Israel was a half century ago and I was
horrified at that point w/ what was going on, on all sides, and swore never
to return; if anything, I sided with the Arab population.) It's a
frightening time... Apologies for going on so long and it's late here; we
have a guest and have been working on writing tonight.

Thank you!, Alan


On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 2:37 PM Edward Picot via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> Both parties are paralysed by the fact that amongst their grassroots
> membership are big numbers who voted "leave", for whatever reasons, and who
> would be infuriated and feel betrayed if there was another referendum:
> they'd see it as the metropolitan intelligentsia and the upper middle
> classes refusing to accept the outcome of the first referendum, because it
> didn't go the way they wanted. The equivalent, in other words, of
> dissolving the people and electing another.
>
> Of course it's not that simple. The "leave" campaign was a tissue of
> atrocious lies and covert appeals to things like patriotism and racism. It
> was the old outvoting the young, and the have-nots outvoting the haves. It
> was about fear of outsiders, but it also expressed a revulsion against
> established politics and big faceless organisations of any description. It
> gave people a chance to kick out, and they took it. It sold them an
> illusion of taking "back" control of their own lives and destinies, as if
> they'd ever really had that control in the first place.
>
> At the moment I'm not at all sure whether we're going to end up with
> another referendum or a no-deal scenario. There's a small but powerful
> group of hard-liners, especially right-wing hard-liners in the Tory party,
> who regard "crashing out" as the best possible outcome, and who are trying
> to scupper everything else so that the no-deal scenario comes into being by
> default. It's a bit scary.
>
> I'm no fan of Europe - I agree with what Julian says about the European
> Commission. But the big questions with which we should be grappling are
> about the environment, and from that point of view I think we need a united
> Europe rather than a divided one. The worst thing about this whole Brexit
> mess is that it's distracting us from the things we really ought to be
> focussed on, and at the same time it's demonstrating more and more clearly
> how horribly inadequate the Parliamentary system is, as a means of dealing
> with anything that requires a bit of applied intelligence.
>
> Edward
>
>
> On 12/03/2019 17:49, Julian Brooks wrote:
>
> One take, amongst many no doubt:
> It's a bloody disaster (basically) - economically, culturally,
> psychologically. Any-ology.
> While there's a very strong argument that the European Commission is not
> much more than the lapdog of hypercapital, the European Union is a
> wonderful thing and I am still in shock that we appear to be leaving (&
> maybe even taking this grand experiment down with us).
>
> Nonetheless there's some heavy politics plating itself out today, and the
> opposition (Labour really) were last week very clear to let the Tories
> destroy themselves, distraction free.
>
> There's been growing momentum for a final Peoples Vote on either May's
> deal or Remain - this scenario looks likelier by the moment. I would also
> still presume that if an election is called, both Labour and Conservative
> will still call for Brexit.
>
> This whole shitshow is a way off being resolved IMO - and tbh I don't
> think we can ever go back. Equally, many of our Euro partners are very
> understandably heartily sick of us as a nation. And who can blame them, I
> feel the same.
>
> My €2 anyhow...
>
> Julian
>
> P.S. The BBC is sadly not a news org anymore, they only deal in propaganda
> (think Fox w. 

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2019-03-12 Thread Alan Sondheim




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[NetBehaviour] The Doubter's Mysteries: Samson

2019-03-12 Thread Edward Picot via NetBehaviour
'The Doubter's Mysteries' are an attempt to write a short cycle of 
Mystery Plays - ie. plays based on Bible stories, like the Medieval 
Mystery Plays of York, Chester and Wakefield - from the point of view of 
a sceptical modern audience; an audience which either doesn't believe in 
God, or can't work out what he's playing at.


There are fourteen of these plays, and the seventh is now online: 'Samson'.

http://edwardpicot.com/mysteries/07samson.html (or for the full series 
so far, visit http://edwardpicot.com/mysteries)


- Edward Picot
http://edwardpicot.com - personal website

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Re: [NetBehaviour] question/s for the list

2019-03-12 Thread Edward Picot via NetBehaviour
Both parties are paralysed by the fact that amongst their grassroots 
membership are big numbers who voted "leave", for whatever reasons, and 
who would be infuriated and feel betrayed if there was another 
referendum: they'd see it as the metropolitan intelligentsia and the 
upper middle classes refusing to accept the outcome of the first 
referendum, because it didn't go the way they wanted. The equivalent, in 
other words, of dissolving the people and electing another.


Of course it's not that simple. The "leave" campaign was a tissue of 
atrocious lies and covert appeals to things like patriotism and racism. 
It was the old outvoting the young, and the have-nots outvoting the 
haves. It was about fear of outsiders, but it also expressed a revulsion 
against established politics and big faceless organisations of any 
description. It gave people a chance to kick out, and they took it. It 
sold them an illusion of taking "back" control of their own lives and 
destinies, as if they'd ever really had that control in the first place.


At the moment I'm not at all sure whether we're going to end up with 
another referendum or a no-deal scenario. There's a small but powerful 
group of hard-liners, especially right-wing hard-liners in the Tory 
party, who regard "crashing out" as the best possible outcome, and who 
are trying to scupper everything else so that the no-deal scenario comes 
into being by default. It's a bit scary.


I'm no fan of Europe - I agree with what Julian says about the European 
Commission. But the big questions with which we should be grappling are 
about the environment, and from that point of view I think we need a 
united Europe rather than a divided one. The worst thing about this 
whole Brexit mess is that it's distracting us from the things we really 
ought to be focussed on, and at the same time it's demonstrating more 
and more clearly how horribly inadequate the Parliamentary system is, as 
a means of dealing with anything that requires a bit of applied 
intelligence.


Edward


On 12/03/2019 17:49, Julian Brooks wrote:

One take, amongst many no doubt:
It's a bloody disaster (basically) - economically, culturally, 
psychologically. Any-ology.
While there's a very strong argument that the European Commission is 
not much more than the lapdog of hypercapital, the European Union is a 
wonderful thing and I am still in shock that we appear to be leaving 
(& maybe even taking this grand experiment down with us).


Nonetheless there's some heavy politics plating itself out today, and 
the opposition (Labour really) were last week very clear to let the 
Tories destroy themselves, distraction free.


There's been growing momentum for a final Peoples Vote on either May's 
deal or Remain - this scenario looks likelier by the moment. I would 
also still presume that if an election is called, both Labour and 
Conservative will still call for Brexit.


This whole shitshow is a way off being resolved IMO - and tbh I don't 
think we can ever go back. Equally, many of our Euro partners are very 
understandably heartily sick of us as a nation. And who can blame 
them, I feel the same.


My €2 anyhow...

Julian

P.S. The BBC is sadly not a news org anymore, they only deal in 
propaganda (think Fox w. Manners:)







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On 12 Mar 2019 17:22, Alan Sondheim < sondh...@panix.com> wrote:



I've been watching Brexit debates in Parliament on and off for
months and
months and have some questions here -

The main being why another referendum isn't being called.
Parliament's in
a mess; Brexit's already losing money and will lose research and
cultural
possibilities as well. It also seems that the public didn't really
understand the issues at the time of the referendum - and that
most people
don't understand them now.

How does this work with DIWO?

These questions might seem naive, but I'd like to hear what the
arts etc.
communities - what any communities - are thinking about this. How does
this effect small towns? Women? Cultural exchanges? Are artists
involved
in protesting one way or another? It seems from the outside that a
second
referendum is in order - is there any call for this from cultural
institutions? Apologies for naivete here; most of the information
we get
from BBC is from parliamentary debates or talking heads on CNN...

Thanks, Alan
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Re: [NetBehaviour] question/s for the list

2019-03-12 Thread Julian Brooks
One take, amongst many no doubt:
It's a bloody disaster (basically) - economically, culturally, psychologically. 
Any-ology.
While there's a very strong argument that the European Commission is not much 
more than the lapdog of hypercapital, the European Union is a wonderful thing 
and I am still in shock that we appear to be leaving (& maybe even taking this 
grand experiment down with us).

Nonetheless there's some heavy politics plating itself out today, and the 
opposition (Labour really) were last week very clear to let the Tories destroy 
themselves, distraction free.

There's been growing momentum for a final Peoples Vote on either May's deal or 
Remain - this scenario looks likelier by the moment. I would also still presume 
that if an election is called, both Labour and Conservative will still call for 
Brexit.

This whole shitshow is a way off being resolved IMO - and tbh I don't think we 
can ever go back. Equally, many of our Euro partners are very understandably 
heartily sick of us as a nation. And who can blame them, I feel the same.

My €2 anyhow...

Julian

P.S. The BBC is sadly not a news org anymore, they only deal in propaganda 
(think Fox w. Manners:)

 Original Message 
On 12 Mar 2019 17:22, Alan Sondheim wrote:

> I've been watching Brexit debates in Parliament on and off for months and
> months and have some questions here -
>
> The main being why another referendum isn't being called. Parliament's in
> a mess; Brexit's already losing money and will lose research and cultural
> possibilities as well. It also seems that the public didn't really
> understand the issues at the time of the referendum - and that most people
> don't understand them now.
>
> How does this work with DIWO?
>
> These questions might seem naive, but I'd like to hear what the arts etc.
> communities - what any communities - are thinking about this. How does
> this effect small towns? Women? Cultural exchanges? Are artists involved
> in protesting one way or another? It seems from the outside that a second
> referendum is in order - is there any call for this from cultural
> institutions? Apologies for naivete here; most of the information we get
> from BBC is from parliamentary debates or talking heads on CNN...
>
> Thanks, Alan
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[NetBehaviour] New Book | Art Criticism Online: A History by Charlotte Frost.

2019-03-12 Thread marc.garrett via NetBehaviour
New Book | Art Criticism Online: A History by Charlotte Frost.

The mainstream press often celebrates the ‘tweeting’, ‘facebooking’ and 
‘gramming’ of art commentary. Yet online forms of art criticism have a much 
longer and more varied history than we think. Far preceding the art discussions 
happening on the likes of Twitter and Facebook. Before art discussions took 
place on social media, there were networked art projects and art critical 
Bulletin Board Systems, email discussion lists and blogs. Art Criticism Online: 
A History provides the first in-depth history of art criticism following the 
Internet. The book considers the core stages of development and where critical 
practice is heading in the future.

Reviews

Charlotte Frost's Art Criticism Online provides a much needed account and 
indispensable survey of the ways in which Western art criticism has been 
profoundly affected and changed by the online environment. Building on the 
history of networked and participatory criticism predating the Internet, Frost 
traces three different phases of online art criticism unfolding in early 
discussion groups, on listservs, and within today's blogosphere and social 
media platforms. The book expertly captures nuanced transformations in art 
criticism's content, form and style, analyzing how approaches have shifted in 
response to the evolution of the art world terrain. Art Criticism Online 
successfully manages to provide readers with a map of the dynamic expressions 
of today's critical culture. --Christiane Paul, Adjunct Curator of Digital Art, 
Whitney Museum, Director/Chief Curator, Sheila C. Johnson Design Center, 
Parsons/The New School

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