[NetBehaviour] Wall Street begins campaign to th wart ‘populist overreaction’
June 25 (Bloomberg) -- Wall Street’s largest trade group has started a campaign to counter the “populist” backlash against bankers, enlisting two former aides to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to spearhead the effort. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087sid=aNBWPPxGyWaU ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of Things....Research Opportunities on EPSRC funded Project]
Hi all, This is a great project. Spimes are not intrinsically designed for surveillance , and as Simon noticed 'The information in information technology always travels both ways'. I also work on some 'imaginary spimes' and i think that this term coined by Bruce Sterling is a powerfull operative concept, for art and design. There is also a Spime design workshop in Second Life monday, june 29 at 21H CET, you cand take part by registering here (it's free): http://bit.ly/sdw-application -- Yann Le Guennec http://www.yannleguennec.com Ruth Catlow a probablement écrit : Forwarded Message *From*: Chris Speed c.sp...@eca.ac.uk mailto:c.sp...@eca.ac.uk Dear all and everyone, A series of research opportunities are available to support a large EPSRC project exploring social memory in the emerging culture of the Internet of Things. Research Associate, UCL. Fulltime. Duration: 3 years. Start: Sept 09 Research Associate, UCL. Fulltime. Duration: 2 years. Start: Sept 09 Project Administrator, ECA. Fulltime. Duration: 3 years. Start: Aug 09 Studentship, Fulltime. Dundee. Duration: 3 years. Start: Sept 09 Studentship, Fulltime. ECA. Duration: 3 years. Start: Sept 09 *Please visit: * http://www.youtotem.org And then click on links to find application details Various deadlines are in place. *TOTeM* “Spimes are manufactured objects whose informational support is so overwhelmingly extensive and rich that they are regarded as material instantiations of an immaterial system. Spimes begin and end as data. They’re virtual objects first and actual objects second.” Bruce Sterling, Shaping Things, (2005) The TOTeM project is located within the emerging technical and cultural phenomenon known as ‘The Internet of Things’. The term is attributed to the Auto-ID research group at MIT in 1999, and was explored in depth by the International Telecommunication Union who published a report bearing the same name at the United Nations net summit in 2005. The term, ‘Internet of things’, refers to the technical and cultural shift that is anticipated as society moves towards a ubiquitous form of computing in which every device is ‘on’, and every device is connected in some way to the Internet. The specific reference to ‘things’ refers to the concept that every new object manufactured will also be able to part of this extended Internet, because they will have been tagged and indexed by the manufacturer during production. It is also envisaged that consumers will have the ability to ‘read’ the tags through the use of mobile ‘readers’ and use the information connected to the object, to inform their purchase, use and disposal of an object. The implications for the Internet of Things upon production and consumption are tremendous, and will transform the way in which people shop, store and share products. The analogue bar code that has for so long been a dumb encrypted reference to a shop’s inventory system, will be superseded by an open platform in which every object manufactured will be able to be tracked from cradle to grave, through manufacturer to distributor, to potentially every single person who comes into contact with it following its purchase. Further still, every object that comes close to another object, and is within range of a reader, could also be logged on a database and used to find correlations between owners and applications. In a world that has relied upon a linear chain of supply and demand between manufacturer and consumer via high street shop, the Internet of Things has the potential to transform how we will treat objects, care about their origin and use them to find other objects. If every new object is within reach of a reader, everything is searchable and findable, subsequently the shopping experience may never be the same, and the concept of throwing away objects may become a thing of the past as other people find new uses for old things. *The project team are:* •Maria Burke, Salford •Andrew Hudson-Smith, UCL •Angelina Karpovich, Brunel •Simone O’Callaghan, Dundee •Morna Simpson, Dundee •Chris Speed, (PI) Edinburgh College of Art ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of Things....Research OpportunitiesonEPSRC funded Project]
I did not mean to bash the project itself, and it did occur to me that the project might be subversive. Which was why I only selected the text that I did. My main issue was the ridiculous suggestion that people using this new technology would suddenly be able to find new uses for old things... as if we had not been doing that for the past few millennia! As if monkeys don't do it with sticks! Etc. And then annoyance that whatever bruce sterling says is taken as word of god. Did not want to bash the project itself, good luck with it. James. On 25/6/2009, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: The idea with the project Chris has introduced to the list is to enable creative applications of this technology â particularly, social scientists and artistsâ use of social and geo-spatial technologies. The intent is more subversive than anything else and explicitly addresses issues of sustainability, a focus of the research and the institutions the project members represent. Note that Apple are already watching us all as red dots and have been since the release of iPhone 3G. If you do not want to be watched then dump the smart phone, the credit cards, your telecoms subscriptions and never accept cookies from strangers (or anybody else). Alternatively, function as a set of false identities (although many legislatures are making this illegal). The information in information technology always travels both ways. Regards Simon Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk From: Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:49:55 + To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of ThingsResearch Opportunities onEPSRC funded Project] I don't usually worry much about surveillance. My life's more or less an open book but this story scares me a bit. I can just imagine a group of Apple employees, huddled around a bunch of screens with a million red dots moving around on a Google map of the world: http://happywaffle.livejournal.com/5890.html Pall On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:15 PM, james morrisja...@jwm-art.net wrote: shop, store and share products. The analogue bar code that has for so long been a dumb encrypted reference to a shopââ¬â¢s inventory system, will be superseded by an open platform in which every object manufactured will be able to be tracked from cradle to grave, through manufacturer to distributor, to potentially every single person who comes into contact great! more surveillance! with it following its purchase. Further still, every object that comes close to another object, and is within range of a reader, could also be logged on a database and used to find correlations between owners and applications. In a world that has relied upon a linear chain of supply and demand between manufacturer and consumer via high street shop, the Internet of Things has the potential to transform how we will treat objects, care about their origin and use them to find other objects. If every new object is within reach of a reader, everything is searchable and findable, subsequently the shopping experience may never be the great! even more surveillance! same, and the concept of throwing away objects may become a thing of the past as other people find new uses for old things. Wow man, I'm glad all these technical boffins come up with such fantastic ideas... Just a pity the Wombles[1] beat them to it. [1] http://www.tidybag.co.uk/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- * Pall Thayer artist http://www.this.is/pallit * ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of Things....Research OpportunitiesonEPSRC funded Project]
I agree, referencing Bruce Sterling can be annoying. It shouldn’t be allowed (like citing Wikipedia). Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk From: james morris ja...@jwm-art.net Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:12:38 +0100 (BST) To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of ThingsResearch OpportunitiesonEPSRC funded Project] I did not mean to bash the project itself, and it did occur to me that the project might be subversive. Which was why I only selected the text that I did. My main issue was the ridiculous suggestion that people using this new technology would suddenly be able to find new uses for old things... as if we had not been doing that for the past few millennia! As if monkeys don't do it with sticks! Etc. And then annoyance that whatever bruce sterling says is taken as word of god. Did not want to bash the project itself, good luck with it. James. On 25/6/2009, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: The idea with the project Chris has introduced to the list is to enable creative applications of this technology – particularly, social scientists and artists’ use of social and geo-spatial technologies. The intent is more subversive than anything else and explicitly addresses issues of sustainability, a focus of the research and the institutions the project members represent. Note that Apple are already watching us all as red dots and have been since the release of iPhone 3G. If you do not want to be watched then dump the smart phone, the credit cards, your telecoms subscriptions and never accept cookies from strangers (or anybody else). Alternatively, function as a set of false identities (although many legislatures are making this illegal). The information in information technology always travels both ways. Regards Simon Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk From: Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:49:55 + To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of ThingsResearch Opportunities onEPSRC funded Project] I don't usually worry much about surveillance. My life's more or less an open book but this story scares me a bit. I can just imagine a group of Apple employees, huddled around a bunch of screens with a million red dots moving around on a Google map of the world: http://happywaffle.livejournal.com/5890.html Pall On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:15 PM, james morrisja...@jwm-art.net wrote: shop, store and share products. The analogue bar code that has for so long been a dumb encrypted reference to a shop’s inventory system, will be superseded by an open platform in which every object manufactured will be able to be tracked from cradle to grave, through manufacturer to distributor, to potentially every single person who comes into contact great! more surveillance! with it following its purchase. Further still, every object that comes close to another object, and is within range of a reader, could also be logged on a database and used to find correlations between owners and applications. In a world that has relied upon a linear chain of supply and demand between manufacturer and consumer via high street shop, the Internet of Things has the potential to transform how we will treat objects, care about their origin and use them to find other objects. If every new object is within reach of a reader, everything is searchable and findable, subsequently the shopping experience may never be the great! even more surveillance! same, and the concept of throwing away objects may become a thing of the past as other people find new uses for old things. Wow man, I'm glad all these technical boffins come up with such fantastic ideas... Just a pity the Wombles[1] beat them to it. [1] http://www.tidybag.co.uk/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- * Pall Thayer artist http://www.this.is/pallit * ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] aphoric
aphoric http://www.alansondheim.org/ pilo pngs what we are seeing is absolutely not real, and what is absolutely not real is what is seen. all physical labor is mental labor and all mental labor is physical labor. the network of who we are is absolutely not real, and what is absolutely not real is the network of who we are. the network is processed labor and processed labor is the network. we're all clowns, show me a thing, we're all things, show me a clown. all questions are local questions grounded in debris, and debris is the ground of all questions. all universal questions are inconceivable, and all inconceivable questions are universal. everything else is a waste of time and a waste of time is everything else. forget the local, drown in the universal, forget the universal, drown the local. forget the world to better it, better the world to forget it. every sentence collapses, every collapse is sentenced. the crossed aphorism is the aphorism crossed. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of Things....Research OpportunitiesonEPSRC funded Project]
Simon Biggs a probablement écrit : I agree, referencing Bruce Sterling can be annoying. could you explain why? It shouldn’t be allowed (like citing Wikipedia). ... is it ironic ? Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.biggs@ eca .ac.uk www. eca .ac.uk www. eca .ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk *From: *james morris ja...@jwm-art.net *Reply-To: *NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org *Date: *Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:12:38 +0100 (BST) *To: *netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org *Subject: *Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of ThingsResearch OpportunitiesonEPSRC funded Project] I did not mean to bash the project itself, and it did occur to me that the project might be subversive. Which was why I only selected the text that I did. My main issue was the ridiculous suggestion that people using this new technology would suddenly be able to find new uses for old things... as if we had not been doing that for the past few millennia! As if monkeys don't do it with sticks! Etc. And then annoyance that whatever bruce sterling says is taken as word of god. Did not want to bash the project itself, good luck with it. James. On 25/6/2009, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: The idea with the project Chris has introduced to the list is to enable creative applications of this technology – particularly, social scientists and artists’ use of social and geo-spatial technologies. The intent is more subversive than anything else and explicitly addresses issues of sustainability, a focus of the research and the institutions the project members represent. Note that Apple are already watching us all as red dots and have been since the release of iPhone 3G. If you do not want to be watched then dump the smart phone, the credit cards, your telecoms subscriptions and never accept cookies from strangers (or anybody else). Alternatively, function as a set of false identities (although many legislatures are making this illegal). The information in information technology always travels both ways. Regards Simon Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk From: Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:49:55 + To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of ThingsResearch Opportunities onEPSRC funded Project] I don't usually worry much about surveillance. My life's more or less an open book but this story scares me a bit. I can just imagine a group of Apple employees, huddled around a bunch of screens with a million red dots moving around on a Google map of the world: http://happywaffle.livejournal.com/5890.html Pall On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:15 PM, james morrisja...@jwm-art.net wrote: shop, store and share products. The analogue bar code that has for so long been a dumb encrypted reference to a shop’s inventory system, will be superseded by an open platform in which every object manufactured will be able to be tracked from cradle to grave, through manufacturer to distributor, to potentially every single person who comes into contact great! more surveillance! with it following its purchase. Further still, every object that comes close to another object, and is within range of a reader, could also be logged on a database and used to find correlations between owners and applications. In a world that has relied upon a linear chain of supply and demand between manufacturer and consumer via high street shop, the Internet of Things has the potential to transform how we will treat objects, care about their origin and use them to find other objects. If every new object is within reach of a reader, everything is searchable and findable, subsequently the shopping experience may never be the great! even more surveillance! same, and the concept of throwing away objects may become a thing of the past as other people find new uses for old things. Wow man, I'm glad all these technical boffins come up with such fantastic ideas... Just a pity the Wombles[1] beat them to it. [1] http://www.tidybag.co.uk/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- * Pall Thayer artist http://www.this.is/pallit * ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Edinburgh College of
Re: [NetBehaviour] Autonet - an autonomous internet
Hi, are you aware of the netsukuku project? http://netsukuku.freaknet.org/?pag=home Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:16:22 -0700 From: lo...@resist.ca To: nettim...@kein.org; spec...@mikrolisten.de; netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org; theupgr...@googlegroups.com Subject: [NetBehaviour] Autonet - an autonomous internet Autonet is a project to create a wireless, global internet that can provide more reliability than corporate phone companies by being community based and freely licensed. The cutting off access to The Pirate Bay by BT in the UK [1] is just another sign of the beginning of the end. The fact that the Great Firewall of China exists signals that the internet is already obsolete and that the Great Firewall of the US is just around the corner. While moves against net neutrality began years ago and have been fought, nasty laws such as HR4437 and the Total Information Awareness program have a way of coming into existence later in the future, slightly modified, under different names. The internet as we know it, as a place for free exchange of information, as the center of what has been called a second 17th century with new ideas, creativity and innovation emerging daily, is rapidly coming to an end. We must use these last gasps of freedom to route around the disaster and create a truly free network. How? Advances in wireless technology such as ubiquitous wireless routers, community mesh networks which are easily expandable and self-healing as well as long range wireless efforts such as HPWREN indicate a possible future for a community based internet free of the centralized control of telephone corporations and governments. While this is definitely a fork, more forks are to come and we can only hope that a few networks will emerge which can be broad enough to span most of the globe. Major questions remain to be solved, such as speed issues, routing issues, DNS control, splits and neutrality. The Autonet, or Autonomous Internet project seems to begin to address this rapidly changing situation, where today Germany [2] has installed internet filtering as well and more countries are to come. While today those cut off are defying copyright laws, tomorrow any other political issue may be the cause for being denied access to global networks. While today the FBI is content to steal servers from information providers like Indymedia, perhaps tomorrow they will not be happy until indymedia is completely cut off of the network, or other open sources of information such as blogs, twitter accounts and social networks of dissident groups. The popular revolt in Iran and subsequent disruption of network access by the Iranian government is only a glimpse of what is to come in the US and around the world, where the first line of attack against political resistance is to cut off network access. By establishing a community based, wireless, global network we can allow groups of individuals, not corporations, to maintain freedom of communication; We can create out right to communicate instead of asking for it, and continue to route around obsolete intellectual property laws which restrict our dreams and our creativity. Join this effort by going to http://alt-bit.org and contributing to this research, lets start outlining the problems, finding the technical solutions and work out the issues, collectively, as a Free Software / Open Hardware project, using open licensing. Another urgent reason for Autonet is one that has motivated Free Software hackers for so long: Technological progress without a reliance on corporate support. Given the current financial and economic crises, how long can we expect dinosaurs like phone companies to survive? If one of these crises turns into disaster, the consequence is likely to be the disrution of collapse of the global networks on which we rely. I am not ready to give up what has been gained from these networks, including a worldwide communication between political actors empowered through fast information flows. We must start this long, difficult project today so that we may be ready for unexpected dangers which threaten our capability to communicate as a multitude, globally. To add to the project, go to http://trac.alt-bit.org/wiki/projects/autonet To sign up to participate, go to http://trac.alt-bit.org/register -djlotu5 http://trac.alt-bit.org/wiki/user/djlotu5 -chead http://trac.alt-bit.org/wiki/user/chead [1] http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/251609/bt-blocks-off-pirate-bay.html [2] http://www.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0906/msg00023.html ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour _ Y tú, ¿ya actualizaste tu Perfil?
[NetBehaviour] Exhibitions Co-ordinator- Vacancy at aspex:
Forwarded Message From: Joanne Bushnell j...@aspex.org.uk Exhibitions Co-ordinator Full-time (35 hours p/w), salary range £16,000 - £19,000 aspex is looking for an enthusiastic, highly capable individual to organise all aspects of its exhibitions and off-site projects. The post holder will work closely with the Director to programme, fundraise and deliver exhibitions and associated events and will be required to contribute fully to ongoing audience development. The appointed candidate will have a high level of attention to detail and solid budgeting skills. To download the job description and application pack for this position please see www.aspex.org.uk or contact Sally Horgan, Administrator, at aspex, The Vulcan Building, Gunwharf Quays, Portsmouth, PO1 3BF. Tel 02392 778072, email sa...@aspex.org.uk. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of Things....Research OpportunitiesonEPSRC funded Project]
Yes, I am being ironic (to a degree). In formal research you cannot cite sources from unrecognised authors. Authors have to be identifiable and their work generally peer reviewed. Sources such as the Encyclopedia Brittanica and Wikipedia are not allowed to be used. It does not mean that these sources are poor – just that the information they provide has not been verfied. This restriction can be annoying but is understandable. I often use Wikipedia for initial background data-mining, but when it comes to using references I go to the original texts (which might be mentioned in Wikipedia) and check them prior to citing them. When reading somebody’s research you want to know their sources are reliable. If you can’t trust their sources you can’t trust the research. It could be anything. Same with journalism. If I am reading a piece of investigative journalism and discover the evidence was unverified I would lose trust in the author (unless they have presented the text as an opinion piece). The reason this thread arrived at this theme was the posting about research opportunities into the creative applications of social technologies at eca. The team undertaking that work is made up of artists, architects, social scientists and informaticians. The methods they will employ will include those familiar to artists and other creative practitioners, but undertaken alongside and contextualised by methods from the social and physical sciences. These methods require that researchers ensure rigorous proof of their evidence and the criteria for their anaylsis. That is no big deal. It just means the work has to be done openly, transparently, everything recorded and all original material retained for peer assessment. This is not foolproof (there are plenty of examples of poor science around) but nobody has proposed a better system yet. It is unusual for artistic work to be undertaken in this context but not novel. Other’s have done it. It often leads to surprising outcomes, especially for the scientists. As for Bruce Sterling, I find his (non-fiction) writing techno-determinist, utopian and evangelical in nature. What I have seen of his work appears to be oriented towards opinion pieces rather than research. However, I have to admit I’ve not read him much so I could be wrong. Regards Simon Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk From: yann le guennec i...@x-arn.org Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:48:24 +0200 To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of ThingsResearch OpportunitiesonEPSRC funded Project] Simon Biggs a probablement écrit : I agree, referencing Bruce Sterling can be annoying. could you explain why? It shouldn’t be allowed (like citing Wikipedia). ... is it ironic ? Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.biggs@ eca .ac.uk www. eca .ac.uk www. eca .ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk *From: *james morris ja...@jwm-art.net *Reply-To: *NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org *Date: *Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:12:38 +0100 (BST) *To: *netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org *Subject: *Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of ThingsResearch OpportunitiesonEPSRC funded Project] I did not mean to bash the project itself, and it did occur to me that the project might be subversive. Which was why I only selected the text that I did. My main issue was the ridiculous suggestion that people using this new technology would suddenly be able to find new uses for old things... as if we had not been doing that for the past few millennia! As if monkeys don't do it with sticks! Etc. And then annoyance that whatever bruce sterling says is taken as word of god. Did not want to bash the project itself, good luck with it. James. On 25/6/2009, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: The idea with the project Chris has introduced to the list is to enable creative applications of this technology – particularly, social scientists and artists’ use of social and geo-spatial technologies. The intent is more subversive than anything else and explicitly addresses issues of sustainability, a focus of the research and the institutions the project members represent. Note that Apple are already watching us all as red dots and have been since the release of iPhone 3G. If you do not want to be watched then dump the smart phone, the credit cards, your telecoms subscriptions and never accept cookies from strangers (or anybody else). Alternatively, function as a set of false identities (although many legislatures are making this illegal). The information in information technology always
Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of Things....ResearchOpportunitiesonEPSRC funded Project]
On 25/6/2009, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: recorded and all original material retained for peer assessment. This is not foolproof (there are plenty of examples of poor science around) but nobody has proposed a better system yet. It is unusual for artistic work to be undertaken in this context but not novel. Otherâs have done it. It often leads to surprising outcomes, especially for the scientists. I'm interested to know what the nature of the surprising outcomes are for scientists? (Are the artists less surprised by the outcomes?) http://www.principlesofnature.net/gallery_of_selected_art_works/the_discreteness_of_infinity_art_science_parallels.htm http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2008/sep/02/darwinscanopy ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of Things....ResearchOpportunitiesonEPSRC funded Project]
Artists are generally going into these situations looking for surprising outcomes whilst scientists are often unsure what their value will be to their work. Having done a few of these interdisciplinary collaborative things this has been my experience. That said, many scientists are up for unlikely outcomes of uncertain value. It is just that the way academic research is funded there is this pressure to prove the economic and social value of the probable outcomes well in advance of them coming into being. These pressures function to pervert what research is all about (finding/creating things you didn¹t know you might find/create). How can you know the value of something that doesn¹t exist yet? Why does everything have to have a value? Many artists and scientists prefer not to be concerned with these things. Such considerations are imposed upon them. Regards Simon Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk From: james morris ja...@jwm-art.net Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:26:29 +0100 (BST) To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of ThingsResearchOpportunitiesonEPSRC funded Project] On 25/6/2009, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: recorded and all original material retained for peer assessment. This is not foolproof (there are plenty of examples of poor science around) but nobody has proposed a better system yet. It is unusual for artistic work to be undertaken in this context but not novel. Otherâ?Ts have done it. It often leads to surprising outcomes, especially for the scientists. I'm interested to know what the nature of the surprising outcomes are for scientists? (Are the artists less surprised by the outcomes?) http://www.principlesofnature.net/gallery_of_selected_art_works/the_discrete ness_of_infinity_art_science_parallels.htm http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2008/sep/02/darwins canopy ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
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unlikely outcomes of uncertain value. It is just that the way academic research is funded there is this pressure to prove the economic and social value of the probable outcomes well in advance of them coming into being. This is exactly the problem I have with the art practice as formal research trend. It's great that this has opened new avenues for art funding but at what price? I fear that this is going to produce a lot of boring art that probably sounded interesting on paper but is missing the spontaneity that makes some artwork really leap out and grab you. Too precisely calculated. Art should, at the very least, have strong elements of spur-of-the-moment whim to highlight that violent tumultuousness that is unbridled Creativity (with a capital C). The academic research approach is always going to involve major compromises. The magic happens when just dive in. You'll have plenty of time to ask questions and fine tune concepts later. Hmm... how about a research project that examines the effects of academic institutionalisation on creativity? best r. Pall These pressures function to pervert what research is all about (finding/creating things you didn't know you might find/create). How can you know the value of something that doesn't exist yet? Why does everything have to have a value? Many artists and scientists prefer not to be concerned with these things. Such considerations are imposed upon them. Regards Simon Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk From: james morris ja...@jwm-art.net Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:26:29 +0100 (BST) To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Internet of ThingsResearchOpportunitiesonEPSRC funded Project] On 25/6/2009, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: recorded and all original material retained for peer assessment. This is not foolproof (there are plenty of examples of poor science around) but nobody has proposed a better system yet. It is unusual for artistic work to be undertaken in this context but not novel. Otherâ*˙s have done it. It often leads to surprising outcomes, especially for the scientists. I'm interested to know what the nature of the surprising outcomes are for scientists? (Are the artists less surprised by the outcomes?) http://www.principlesofnature.net/gallery_of_selected_art_works/the_discreteness_of_infinity_art_science_parallels.htm http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2008/sep/02/darwinscanopy ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- * Pall Thayer artist http://www.this.is/pallit * ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] hegelung slow meditation with traffic
hegelung slow meditation with traffic http://www.alansondheim.org/meditate1.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/meditate3.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/meditate2.mp3 sometimes playing slowly (meditate 1/2) calms everything, somethings playing faster (meditate 3) overrides all delicacy. the hegelung is my shakuhachi, easier though, the strings are fretted in so many ways. traffic interferes with everything; listen to these on small computer speakers or be subjected to noise pollution emanating from one of the busier intersections in brooklyn. someday i will sleep the long sleep; until then, traffic keeps me going, hegelung keeps me going back. ,the next morning yakub maguan and fingguy flang, on hegelung, performed on a floating bamboo platform--part of the resorts messwerterfassung, messwertverarbeitung, hegelung vortrge, gehalten anlasslich der achema ,ausstellungstagung fr chemisches record is the first dedicated to the hegelung lute, then, we have here the opportunity to hear the hegelung lute played by two musicians who have i was able (more or less) to repair the philippine boat lute, which most likely is a tboli hegelung. i added three frets and a true maria fe and luming are probably the two best players of hegelung in the village of dekolon, the main tboli community around the sebu lake, tboli gong chimes klintang, hanging gongs blowon, drum tnonggong, boat lute hegelung, jaws harp kumbing, singing and danc- ing, k true the hegelung is a long and slender two string lute. alterna- tely simple and virtuosic, the melodies of the hegelung are peppered with ornamental nursing a bruised heart, a woman plays the hegelung and moves this dance, called kadal hegelung, should be differentiated from the kadal instrument de musique apparent un luth de grande taille lanc deux cordes construit et jou par les tribus tboli des philippines. hegelung, jaws harp kumbing, singing and dancing, but there was much more. tags: tboli tiboli tboli philippines tribal music lake sebu hegelung hegelung ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] [twitte]reality_fiction: 26/6/09
[twitte]reality_fiction: 26/6/09 it's official:_Transformers 2:RO[W]TF[?]_ =colossally bad. scrappy/homophobic/sexist/xenophobic with no creamy-center-subtexts like the 1st. RTing @BreakingNews FLASH -- LOS ANGELES -- KING OF POP MICHAEL JACKSON HAS DIED. @reaperstudios Jacko's death only just officially confirmed...will take a few 2 get thru 2 all channels. [watching chans b0rk_out under the MJ-death frenzy-stream+observing painful_hipster_(anti)acknowledgment_tweet_variants of Jacko's death] watchin rkelly's The Box trailer [rabbithole-random-death-moment via pressing-red button somehow apropos re viciously-banal MJ commentary] in the midst o' an augmentology entry re: how _4chan_ operates[+MJ-jibes]+ it seems this type of distanced/immoral_humor auto-response.. ...ie flippancy-masking-a-docume(go)ntarian's-urge 2 be the first 2 report an incident/immediacy of response serves several functions. -...@keyofnight mebbe-i'm intrigued by the function of these types o' soc_commentstream di[co]splays[+actual diffs 4rm straight juveniliacs]. -- Reality Engineer Synthetic Environment Strategist Game[r + ] Theorist. ::http://unhub.com/netwurker :: ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
