Re: [netmod] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC6991 (7647)

2023-09-18 Thread Chris Smiley

Hi Rob,

We are unable to verify this erratum that the submitter marked as editorial. 
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> On Sep 18, 2023, at 4:23 AM, RFC Errata System  
> wrote:
> 
> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6991,
> "Common YANG Data Types".
> 
> --
> You may review the report below and at:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid7647
> 
> --
> Type: Editorial
> Reported by: David Martínez García 
> 
> Section: 3
> 
> Original Text
> -
> [...]
> 
> typedef object-identifier-128 {
>   type object-identifier {
> 
> [...]
> 
> (and other typedefs that appear in the latest revisions of the module)
> 
> Corrected Text
> --
> [...]
> 
> typedef object-identifier-128 {
>   type yang:object-identifier {
> 
> [...]
> 
> (and other typedefs that appear in the latest revisions of the module)
> 
> Notes
> -
> In Section 3, the textual definition of the "ietf-yang-types" module 
> presents, in my opinion, inconsistencies when defining typedefs that point to 
> other typedefs in the same module: sometimes the value for the "type" key 
> contains the prefix of the module and sometimes not. Please, see the example 
> attached. This can also be applied to other typedefs defined in the latest 
> revisions of the module, such as "date-no-zone" and "time-no-zone". I think 
> this should be addressed to provide clarification and consistency, and thus 
> can be extended to other modules and the YANG standard as well. Thanks for 
> your time.
> 
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> --
> RFC6991 (draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6021-bis-03)
> --
> Title   : Common YANG Data Types
> Publication Date: July 2013
> Author(s)   : J. Schoenwaelder, Ed.
> Category: PROPOSED STANDARD
> Source  : Network Modeling
> Area: Operations and Management
> Stream  : IETF
> Verifying Party : IESG
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[netmod] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC6991 (7647)

2023-09-18 Thread RFC Errata System
The following errata report has been submitted for RFC6991,
"Common YANG Data Types".

--
You may review the report below and at:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid7647

--
Type: Editorial
Reported by: David Martínez García 

Section: 3

Original Text
-
[...]

typedef object-identifier-128 {
   type object-identifier {

[...]

(and other typedefs that appear in the latest revisions of the module)

Corrected Text
--
[...]

typedef object-identifier-128 {
   type yang:object-identifier {

[...]

(and other typedefs that appear in the latest revisions of the module)

Notes
-
In Section 3, the textual definition of the "ietf-yang-types" module presents, 
in my opinion, inconsistencies when defining typedefs that point to other 
typedefs in the same module: sometimes the value for the "type" key contains 
the prefix of the module and sometimes not. Please, see the example attached. 
This can also be applied to other typedefs defined in the latest revisions of 
the module, such as "date-no-zone" and "time-no-zone". I think this should be 
addressed to provide clarification and consistency, and thus can be extended to 
other modules and the YANG standard as well. Thanks for your time.

Instructions:
-
This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please
use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party  
can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. 

--
RFC6991 (draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6021-bis-03)
--
Title   : Common YANG Data Types
Publication Date: July 2013
Author(s)   : J. Schoenwaelder, Ed.
Category: PROPOSED STANDARD
Source  : Network Modeling
Area: Operations and Management
Stream  : IETF
Verifying Party : IESG

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Re: [netmod] Poll on YANG Versioning NBC Approach

2023-09-18 Thread Robert Varga

On 13/09/2023 16.36, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:



Dne 13. 09. 23 v 16:06 Jernej Tuljak napsal(a):


If you are asking whether I'd like to see a new version of YANG for 
the sole purpose of changing those MUST and MUST NOTs - no, I would 
not. However, a change like this mandates a yang-version bump, IMHO.


Right, so we have two ugly options, but bumping YANG version really 
makes no sense, so breaking those few tools that check update rules 
looks like a better choice to me.


We have already seen cases that the update rules prevented fixing 
problems in YANG modules in a straightforward way, and 
backward-compatible fixes negatively affected module readability. This 
is inevitable until the ecosystem of YANG modules stabilizes. That's why 
I think changing update rules from MUST to SHOULD is appropriate - it 
should have been so from the beginning.


+1.

Regards,
Robert


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Re: [netmod] WG adoption call: draft-boucadair-netmod-rfc8407bis-02

2023-09-18 Thread Alex Huang Feng
I support the adoption of this document as WG doc.

Alex


> On 12 Sep 2023, at 00:22, Lou Berger  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for: 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-boucadair-netmod-rfc8407bis/
> 
> Please voice your support or technical objections to adoption on the
> list by the end of the day (any time zone) Sept 25.
> 
> Thank you,
> Lou (as Co-chair)
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