Re: 'back' behaviour in framesets

2009-04-30 Thread Richard Porter
On 30 Apr 2009 Roger Darlington wrote:

 On 29 Apr 2009, Richard Porter wrote:
 Netsurf's behaviour is a little bit inconsistent or at least
 inconvenient with framesets. For example go to
 http://www.bestmoments.at/catago/BestMoments/FE/Index/index
 
 and click on ZU DEN BILDERN. The main frame changes but the back
 icon is not enabled. However the menu allows you to select Navigate 
 Back one page. Having gone back to the first page the reverse applies
 and you can go forward one page using the menu but not the toolbar
 icon.
 
 You need to click Menu in the main frame, so I can see what's
 happening but it's not particularly helpful. It would be better if the
 forward and back icons let you step through the 'pages' actually seen
 regardless of their structure. I think most browsers do this.

 By experimentation with one of my framed sites (no comments on my
 implementation of these sites please!) the way Netsurf has implemented
 forward/back via menu allows you to click 'menu' over the frame-pane
 that you wish to go backwards/forwards on. So, you could click on any
 frame-pane.

Yes but unless you click on the frame that was last updated you won't 
get the desired result.

 Unfortunately, it doesn't update the menu pane when you
 click using 'right-click' - you have to click menu again to enable
 further navigation of the same frame-pane.

Do you mean clicking on the right arrow? It only works if you go back 
from the frameset to an earlier page, from where you can only return 
to the initial state of the frameset.

 However, Netsurf developers could implement this way of working and
 still use the navigate buttons, which is what they are there for after
 all: Click on the frame-pane you wish to navigate, then click on the
 appropriate Navigate button.

That would be a possibility. Following a link in a frameset can only 
update one frame, so it should be fairly easy to track in the history. 
The browser needs to record the target frame, but it must already hold 
the information for each frame so that shouldn't be too difficult.

The tricky bit is when you leave the frameset for another page and 
then try to go back to it in the same state that you left it in. You'd 
need to go back and find what object was last loaded into each frame 
(and framesets can be nested).

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Re: NetSurf 2.0 + Royal Mail Address Finder

2009-04-30 Thread Mike Hobbs
In message 5053ad248brh.li...@phone.coop
  Russell Hafter - Lists rh.li...@phone.coop wrote:

[snip]
 When entering info into the form here, while the cursor
 moves along the space, no characters appear to be entered.
[snip]

I've seen this intermittently on many builds as far back as I
can remember but after system restart its always been OK.
Does anyone have any idea what is actually going on when this
happens?  It doesn't seem to happen with any other application
so its got to be a NetSurf issue.  Any ideas about how the
problem might be isolated?

I just wonder if its similar to a DrawPlus problem I've had
for years where the menu widths expand to full screen width,
then if I shut down various other applications it will
sometimes recover. It would suggest applications trampling on
memory that doesn't belong to them. Could it be the same with
this NetSurf issue?

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Mike Hobbs