NetSurf and Unicode fonts.
I don't know whether this is a problem with NetSurf, RISC OS 4 or with VRPC; any advice from you wise people would be appreciated. On this Iyonix I have two Unicode fonts, the usual Cyberbit and an Amharic font called Abyssinica. As expected, these behave perfectly, and I can see a great may exotic characters, as few of which I can actually understand. Following the posting on The Iconbar about getting Unicode fonts working on RISC OS 4.** (1) I tried to get this working on RISC OS 4.02 on VRPC SE on a Windows XP SP3 laptop. The advice on the Iconbar posting needs a bit of tweaking for 4.02, but I seemed to be initially successful. However, when NetSurf ran and looked at the new fonts, it fell over when it came to Cyberbit, saying "The Unicode font manager has failed to initialise", or words to that effect; as it failed to run fully there is no logfile. I then took Cyberbit out of Resources.Fonts, and ran NetSurf again. This time it ran fully, and I was able to view pages in Amharic with the Abyssinica font. Any idea why this NetSurf doesn't like Cyberbit? Is it a memory problem? (Cyberbit weighs in at, IIRC, 21M). It's not a very big deal for me; when I have the Windows machine running I tend to use Windows Firefox, as it's a great deal faster than NetSurf on VRPC; on the Iyonix, NetSurf is a great deal quicker than Windows Firefox, so I tend to go with horses for courses. However, as I'm always curious about how things work, in a very non-technical way, I wonder if there's an easy explanation, and also wonder if I should put in a bug report, if it is indeed a NetSurf problem. (1) http://www.iconbar.com/articles/Getting_Unicode_Working_With_RISC_ OS_4_and_6/index1267.html TIA, With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NetSurf and Unicode fonts.
On 1 Aug 2011, Dr Peter Young wrote: [snip] > Following the posting on The Iconbar about getting Unicode fonts > working on RISC OS 4.** (1) I tried to get this working on RISC OS > 4.02 on VRPC SE on a Windows XP SP3 laptop. The advice on the Iconbar > posting needs a bit of tweaking for 4.02, but I seemed to be initially > successful. However, when NetSurf ran and looked at the new fonts, it > fell over when it came to Cyberbit, saying "The Unicode font manager > has failed to initialise", or words to that effect; as it failed to > run fully there is no logfile. The Iconbar advice works here using RPCemu, RO 4.39, Windows XP SP2, and Cyberbit font (only). If the modules have initialised you should see: *help fontmanager ==> Help on keyword FontManager Module is: Font Manager3.66 (02 Jan 2010) *help romfonts ==> Help on keyword ROMFonts Module is: ROM Fonts 0.75 (19 Jan 2010) > I then took Cyberbit out of Resources.Fonts, and ran NetSurf again. > This time it ran fully, and I was able to view pages in Amharic with > the Abyssinica font. > > Any idea why this NetSurf doesn't like Cyberbit? Is it a memory > problem? (Cyberbit weighs in at, IIRC, 21M). 24,375,092 bits (23.8MB). Perhaps your copy has not converted correctly. RPCemu has only 128MB memory, so that's not likely to be the problem. Tony
Re: NetSurf and Unicode fonts.
On 1 Aug 2011 Tony Moore wrote: > On 1 Aug 2011, Dr Peter Young wrote: > [snip] >> Following the posting on The Iconbar about getting Unicode fonts >> working on RISC OS 4.** (1) I tried to get this working on RISC OS >> 4.02 on VRPC SE on a Windows XP SP3 laptop. The advice on the Iconbar >> posting needs a bit of tweaking for 4.02, but I seemed to be initially >> successful. However, when NetSurf ran and looked at the new fonts, it >> fell over when it came to Cyberbit, saying "The Unicode font manager >> has failed to initialise", or words to that effect; as it failed to >> run fully there is no logfile. > The Iconbar advice works here using RPCemu, RO 4.39, Windows XP SP2, and > Cyberbit font (only). If the modules have initialised you should see: >*help fontmanager >==> Help on keyword FontManager >Module is: Font Manager3.66 (02 Jan 2010) >*help romfonts >==> Help on keyword ROMFonts >Module is: ROM Fonts 0.75 (19 Jan 2010) Thanks for the comments. Yes, that's exactly what I've got for the modules in VRPC. >> I then took Cyberbit out of Resources.Fonts, and ran NetSurf again. >> This time it ran fully, and I was able to view pages in Amharic with >> the Abyssinica font. >> >> Any idea why this NetSurf doesn't like Cyberbit? Is it a memory >> problem? (Cyberbit weighs in at, IIRC, 21M). > 24,375,092 bits (23.8MB). Perhaps your copy has not converted correctly. Now that's interesting. My two copies of Cyberbit amount to 22,373,976 bytes, but the copy on the Iyo works, as far as I can tell, perfectly. Maybe there's more than one version of the font? When I get a round tuit, I'll maybe download and convert the font again, and see what I get. Also, I might try running NetSurf with Cyberbit and without Abyssinica, to see if that makes a difference. > RPCemu has only 128MB memory, so that's not likely to be the problem. Presumably so, but what about the memory allocated to NetSurf? Just wondering ... With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Lu \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: NetSurf and Unicode fonts.
On 1 Aug 2011, Dr Peter Young wrote: > On 1 Aug 2011 Tony Moore wrote: > > On 1 Aug 2011, Dr Peter Young wrote: [snip] > > > Any idea why this NetSurf doesn't like Cyberbit? Is it a memory > > > problem? (Cyberbit weighs in at, IIRC, 21M). > > > 24,375,092 bits (23.8MB). Perhaps your copy has not converted > > correctly. Sorry, I should have written bytes. > Now that's interesting. My two copies of Cyberbit amount to 22,373,976 > bytes, but the copy on the Iyo works, as far as I can tell, perfectly. > Maybe there's more than one version of the font? Could be, I wouldn't know. Here, the link in the Iconbar article leads to a blank page, so I downloaded the Bitstream Cyberbit font at http://aol-4.vo.llnwd.net/pub/communicator/extras/fonts/windows/Cyberbit.ZIP (zip 6,427,108 bytes, unpacked /ttf 13,353,848 bytes) > When I get a round tuit, I'll maybe download and convert the font > again, and see what I get. Also, I might try running NetSurf with > Cyberbit and without Abyssinica, to see if that makes a difference. > > > RPCemu has only 128MB memory, so that's not likely to be the problem. > > Presumably so, but what about the memory allocated to NetSurf? Just > wondering ... Looking now at the BBC Chinese front page, NetSurf r12505 occupies 4.6MB + 13.4MB in the DA. The machine has 91MB free. No problem, I think. Tony