Re: StreetMap

2014-02-04 Thread Rev Dr Alan Leighton
In message 10d362d453.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk
  Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:

 On 3 Feb 2014  Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 On 3 Feb 2014, John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net wrote:

 Am I imagining it, or has StreetMap (without JS) decided to load all
 elements of the map each time?  If so, well done!

 You're right. Using NS 1602, http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newdefaulte2.htm
 now renders both 3x3 and 5x5 layouts, correctly.

 But only with JavaScript off, as John says.

 With best wishes,

Hi Peter.

When I was in Java (Gresik Surabaya) the local weekly was called Java 
Script. How ever every one of you missed the point but this old priest 
worked it out. All you have to do is put a Directory , call it 
StreetMap, on the HD and drag an email into it. Then all one has to do 
is open the Directory click on the emailbingo!

You certainly need a simple explination for an old priest.  ;-)

Great relief to have access to this program... it is wonderful.

Alan not using Java Script on his old Iyonix.



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Re: Bad archive

2014-02-04 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 11:44:03PM +, cj wrote:
 In article 803664d453.wra...@wra1th.plus.com,
Gavin Wraith ga...@wra1th.plus.com wrote:
  NetSurf 3.1 (Dev CI #1681-9) all give bad archive when I try to
  unzip. The relevant files appear to be !Help, !Run and !RunImage.
  Is this just me?
 
 There does seem to have been a problem with the jsoff builds
 recently. The zips arrive as zero length files. The json version

The CI system is no longer generating jsoff builds at all for any
target that supports a build with javascript.

The ability to disable javascript as an option remains.

This was a decision made at the developer workshop (it is on the
whiteboard)
http://vincentsanders.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/netsurf-developer-workshop-redux.html

 seems fine. It is screwing up my auto download and updater, though,
 because the extraction of Netsurf from the zero length zip obviously
 fails.

In fact its not you are downloading zero length archives, it is more
that you are trying to fetch non-existant archives.

 
 -- 
   Chris Johnson
 
 

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Re: StreetMap

2014-02-04 Thread Brian
In article ed8f60d453.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk,
   Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 On 3 Feb 2014, John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net wrote:

  Am I imagining it, or has StreetMap (without JS) decided to load all
  elements of the map each time?  If so, well done!

 You're right. Using NS 1602, http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newdefaulte2.htm
 now renders both 3x3 and 5x5 layouts, correctly.

Gee, whizz. That's amazing. Never, ever expected that to happen.

Brian




Re: Bad archive

2014-02-04 Thread cj
In article 20140204090427.ga30...@kyllikki.org,
   Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
 The CI system is no longer generating jsoff builds at all for any
 target that supports a build with javascript.

Ahhh - right. I should be paying more attention at the back!

Thanks - I will modify my scripts accordingly.

-- 
Chris Johnson



Sockets

2014-02-04 Thread Geoffrey Baxendale
Hi,

Is it just me, or is Netsurf's sockets system awry. After a modest
browsing session Internet access freezes up due,  I think,
 to sockets being used up. Qitting Netsurf restores order. It seems to
 have started about a couple of weeks ago. Not sure of the exact time.

Risc Os 6.2 NS R1681. (JSoff)

TTFN
-- 
Geoff.
Using Acorn StrongARM Kinetic RiscPC.
Oxymoron of the day: Little Monster



Re: Sockets

2014-02-04 Thread Vincent Sanders
On Tue, Feb 04, 2014 at 11:08:33AM +, Geoffrey Baxendale wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Is it just me, or is Netsurf's sockets system awry. After a modest
 browsing session Internet access freezes up due,  I think,
  to sockets being used up. Qitting Netsurf restores order. It seems to
  have started about a couple of weeks ago. Not sure of the exact time.
 
 Risc Os 6.2 NS R1681. (JSoff)

are you reporting a duplicate of

http://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/mantis/view.php?id=2064

if so can you please add your observations to the bug as a note

 
 TTFN
 -- 
 Geoff.
 Using Acorn StrongARM Kinetic RiscPC.
 Oxymoron of the day: Little Monster
 
 

-- 
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http://www.kyllikki.org/



RE: Sockets

2014-02-04 Thread Dave Higton
On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:08:33 GMT, Geoff wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Is it just me, or is Netsurf's sockets system awry. After a modest
 browsing session Internet access freezes up due,  I think,
  to sockets being used up. Qitting Netsurf restores order. It seems to
  have started about a couple of weeks ago. Not sure of the exact time.
 
 Risc Os 6.2 NS R1681. (JSoff)
 
 TTFN

It's not just you.  The symptom I notice (and I am not the first to
say this) is failure to resolve links.  I can save the link, quit
NS and restart it, and the link works fine.  It started more than 2
week ago, but I don't remember when.  I did not originally attribute
the failure to NS, but now I'm sure.

Dave


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RE: Sockets

2014-02-04 Thread george greenfield
In message f7b5e9bd5a9.1395d...@davehigton.me.uk
  Dave Higton d...@davehigton.me.uk wrote:

 On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:08:33 GMT, Geoff wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Is it just me, or is Netsurf's sockets system awry. After a modest
 browsing session Internet access freezes up due,  I think,
  to sockets being used up. Qitting Netsurf restores order. It seems to
  have started about a couple of weeks ago. Not sure of the exact time.
 
 Risc Os 6.2 NS R1681. (JSoff)
 
 TTFN
 
 It's not just you.  The symptom I notice (and I am not the first to
 say this) is failure to resolve links.  I can save the link, quit
 NS and restart it, and the link works fine.  It started more than 2
 week ago, but I don't remember when.  I did not originally attribute
 the failure to NS, but now I'm sure.
 
 Dave
 
 
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 Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth
 
Same symptom here (#1689, running on RPCEmu0.8.11/4.02 on a Win7-64 
PC). However, I've noticed this link-resolving failure in Netsurf for 
quite a while, so I wouldn't say it's a new problem. Quitting and 
restarting Netsurf seems to restore normal behaviour, as the others 
have found.

George

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Re: Sockets

2014-02-04 Thread cj
In article 7787b6d453.geo...@tiscali..co.uk,
   george greenfield george.greenfi...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
 However, I've noticed this link-resolving failure in Netsurf for 
 quite a while

Yes - it has been happening for a month or so. It was SWMBO who
commented first, since she gets emails from various chain stores etc,
and the links stopped working. I just assumed there was some change
at the remote site, but then when it happened to me, I took more
notice and saw it was a lookup failure. I just went back to 3.0 when
this happened. Therefore I didn't notice for a while that simply
restarting the development version would have fixed things.

-- 
Chris Johnson



MousAxess

2014-02-04 Thread Richard Torrens (lists)
Is anyone else here using MouseAxess with NetSurf?

I hav found Netsurf very inclined to crash. It feels like it's caused bey
switch bounce, usually from the menu button. But removing MouseAxess seems
to stop it.

I have not found any other programs which crash like this...

-- 
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http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats
and more!



Re: MousAxess

2014-02-04 Thread Brian
In article 53d4c22179li...@torrens.org.uk,
   Richard Torrens (lists) li...@torrens.org.uk wrote:
 Is anyone else here using MouseAxess with NetSurf?

 I hav found Netsurf very inclined to crash. It feels like it's caused
 bey switch bounce, usually from the menu button. But removing MouseAxess
 seems to stop it.

 I have not found any other programs which crash like this...

Using MouseAxess here all the time without any problem. Just tried to
cause a problem, nothing happened. What precisely were you doing, Richard?




Re: StreetMap

2014-02-04 Thread Dave Higton
In message 980c69d453.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk
  Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

On 3 Feb 2014, Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote:
 On 3 Feb 2014  Tony Moore old_coas...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
  On 3 Feb 2014, John Williams joh...@ukgateway.net wrote:

   Am I imagining it, or has StreetMap (without JS) decided to load
   all elements of the map each time?  If so, well done!

  You're right. Using NS 1602,
  http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newdefaulte2.htm now renders both 3x3 and
  5x5 layouts, correctly.

 But only with JavaScript off, as John says.

Exactly (the main site http://www.streetmap.co.uk/ requires JavaScript).

John was commenting that StreetMap now renders _all_ the map segments,
whereas recently it had developed a bug which caused several segments to
be missing, from each page.

Well, my experiments show the rendering to be a very hit and miss
affair - more miss than hit - in 1691.  Perhaps the socket exhaustion
has something to do with it.

Dave


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Re: Sockets

2014-02-04 Thread Geoffrey Baxendale
In message 20140204112025.ga31...@kyllikki.org
  Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 04, 2014 at 11:08:33AM +, Geoffrey Baxendale wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Is it just me, or is Netsurf's sockets system awry. After a modest
  browsing session Internet access freezes up due,  I think,
   to sockets being used up. Qitting Netsurf restores order. It seems to
   have started about a couple of weeks ago. Not sure of the exact time.
 
  Risc Os 6.2 NS R1681. (JSoff)

 are you reporting a duplicate of

 http://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/mantis/view.php?id=2064

Yes
 if so can you please add your observations to the bug as a note

Nothing to add. It is exactly as the man says.
 
  TTFN
  --
  Geoff.
  Using Acorn StrongARM Kinetic RiscPC.
  Oxymoron of the day: Little Monster
 
 

Thanks for other peoples replies, it's nice to know it's not my system.
:-)

TTFN
-- 
Geoff.
Using Acorn StrongARM Kinetic RiscPC.
Oxymoron of the day: Government Organisation