Re: Riscos Netsurf downloads

2010-10-23 Thread Anthony Hilton
In message <4cc30c2b.30...@elecdrum.com>
  Kenpvr  wrote:

> I am new to riscos and Netsurf so this could just be ignorance on my part.
> I am trying to download makemodes.arc from the acorn site but netsurf
> simply displays the whole file instead of giving me the download box
> which it does do for a .zip file.
> Is this a riscos configuration thing or Netsurf.

Probably a web server configuration thing. The file is sent as a text 
file so the browser displays it.

You can either save the page with the filename you have downloaded, or 
shift-click on the link to get a save box immediately, and then change 
the filetype to the correct one for the type of archive it is.

Anthony

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Re: Unknown SSL protocol

2010-08-10 Thread Anthony Hilton
In message <2afd994451.bo...@boase.demon.co.uk>
  Bernard Boase  wrote:

> On 30 Apr 2010, Bernard Boase  wrote:

>> On 11 Aug 2009, Bernard Boase  wrote:

>>> On 7 Aug 2009, John Williams  wrote:

>>>> Sometime after r8950 - 1st Aug 2009, accessing my French bank results in
>>>> this error at the password box appearing stage:

>>>> Sorry, NetSurf was unable to display this page

>>>> Unknown SSL protocol error in connection to
>>>> voscomptesenligne.labanquepostale.fr:443

>>>> - so something changed after that version.

>>> Similar story here with Co-operative Bank
>>> https://welcome27.co-operativebank.co.uk/CBIBSWeb/start.do, using RISC
>>> OS Netsurf 3.0 (Dev) 04 Aug 2009 r9045.

>>> 

>> The above problem dates from last summer (2009) and meant that I
>> normally stayed with Netsurf 2.1 rather than any of the 3.0
>> development versions.

>> Unfortunately, I now find that the new 2.5 exhibits the same problem,
>> so once again I must retain 2.1 for use with this bank.

>> I won't add another problem log on the tracker as the one that's there
>> says enough (while not mentioning 2.5 of course), but I do wonder if
>> anyone has an understanding of whether the problem is soluble.

> Glad to report that, as of some unknown period before Netsurf
> development update "3.0 (Dev) (03 Aug 2010 10:30) r10678", the above
> problem has disappeared, AND it has disappeared when using the release
> version 2.5! So maybe it's something the Co-op Bank has changed?

That suggests to me that it is not a change in Netsurf which has 
caused the improvement for you.

> I have added a comment to Netsurf Bug tracker ID: 2835477
> "Co-op bank login gives SSL error 2009-08-11", but cannot mark the bug
> closed if John Williams still has the problem with La Poste. (I have
> advised him of this by personal email).

I still get the same message attempting to open the Snatander login 
page. I have added a comment to the bugtracker.

Anthony

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Re: Shortcut to Save Location as ANT URL?

2010-08-08 Thread Anthony Hilton
In message <5142aedb3bd...@triffid.co.uk>
  Dave Symes  wrote:

> In article <4b9fa74251...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>,
> wrote:
> [Snippy]
>> On Adjust 4.42 (A9) and Select 6.10 (Risc PC) I cannot drag the URL.
>> What happens is that the URL is highlighted and there is no Save box.

>> John

> As I said in my previous posting it does work with RO 6.20.

> Try pressing the Shift key and holding it down, then Click and hold over
> the *http* bit of the URL in the bar, a blank icon will appear, still
> holding Shift, drag it to where-ever...

Shift-drag also works here on my A9 RISC OS 4.42 [Kernel 8.68] - aka 
Flash 2.

Anthony

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Re: Netsurf failure on a BBC site

2010-07-10 Thread Anthony Hilton
In message <513489fb8c...@timil.com>
  Tim Hill  wrote:

> In article <861b503451.old_coas...@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony Moore
>  wrote:
>> On 9 Jul 2010, Harriet Bazley  wrote:

>> [snip]

>>> Presumably we're still supposed to be using the page pointed to via
>>> 'Contact the developers' in .Docs.welcome.index_en, i.e.
>>> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=browse&group_id=51719&atid=464312
>>>
>>> Or has this, as comments further down this thread suggest, been
>>> superseded by some other bug tracker - the Sourceforge one doesn't
>>> seem to sport a 'Groups' pulldown menu

>> Try http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=51719&atid=464312
>> which allows a new bug to be added. The address which you quote, above,
>> leads to a schedule of previously reported bugs.

> ...but you do want to peruse that full list _before_ submitting a new bug
> which isn't, don't you?

> The page address linked to the bug tracker from the hotlist in V.3.00 is
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=464312&group_id=51719

>From these comments I guess Harriet was using a similar version to 
r10592 (01 Jul 2010) which only has 2 entries under Netsurf in the 
hotlist here.

Or is an old hotlist in use because we have actually added entries or 
our own?

Whenever I install a new versionn of Netsurf I delete the previous 
before placing the latest into the directory where I store it.

Anthony

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Re: file:/// is now wrong

2010-07-02 Thread Anthony Hilton
In message 
  Roger Darlington  wrote:



> In Netsurf, version r8643, the following code, in a MessPro e-mail,
> works fine on my computer (accessing a local file):
>file:///ADFS::IYO4.$.~Mine.WFF.!WildFlowers.Flowers.Y/YellowStagsho
> rn/YellowStagshorn.htm


> But on subsequent versions of Netsurf, including r10589, it does not
> work. It gives 'file not found' a message issued by Netsurf.

> The file it is looking for is:
>/ADFS::IYO4.$.~Mine.WFF.!WildFlowers.Flowers.Y/YellowStagshorn/Yell
> owStagshorn.htm

> Note the leading '/'. This is where it is going wrong. It wont find
> the file because of this leading '/'.

> But if I omit one of the '/'s in the line in the e-mail thus:
>file://ADFS::IYO4.$.~Mine.WFF.!WildFlowers.Flowers.Y/YellowStagshor
> n/YellowStagshorn.htm

> It still doesn't work.

> I'm not surprised about the last bit of code, it is wrong, but the
> first bit should work, it worked before.

When I double-click a local file the URL in netsurf (r10592) still 
starts file:///IDEFS and has the colons and dollar sign replaced by 
%3A and %24 respectively 


The more readable version 
 also works fine.

I think the directory separator dots need to be replaced with slashes, 
eg 

Does this help?

Anthony

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Re: hiccup with emailed link to a password-protected file

2010-05-17 Thread Anthony Hilton
In message 
  Jim Nagel  wrote:

> nobody responded to my earlier posting (quoted below).  problem has
> come up again.  here are some smaller sample files:

>  http://archive.abacusline.co.uk/gerald.zip
>  http://archive.abacusline.co.uk/gerald.jpg
>  Username:archive
>  Password:   amusement

> not sure what's happening here at the password stage.  this file
> downloads now (unlike the 5M one below) but displays in Netsurf as
> goggledygoop text rather than as picture or zipfile icon.  note that
> it happens first-time-round only:  if you try again after having put
> the password in once, it does not ask the password again and behaves.

> is this a Netsurf problem or something to do with the email client
> that i use (MPro 5.13)?   --jim



> Jim Nagel  wrote on 6 May:

>> One of the Archive writers put a 5M zip file for me on his website and
>> emailed me the link, along with the username and password it requires.

>> When I click the link in the email (displayed by MPro), Netsurf (2.5)
>> fires up, opens a blank page and puts up the "site authentication"
>> dialogue asking username and password.  Then it spends ages apparently
>> fetching the file, then says "Processing document" with hourglass for
>> ages and finally crashes.

>> I tried loading Fresco and clicked the same link in the email. It
>> asked username and password, downloaded the file in 16 seconds and
>> popped up a savebox showing a zipfile.

>> As a workaround with Netsurf, I copied the link from the email into a
>> simple HTML page so I could *Shift*-click it.  That worked OK.
>> However, the progress box during the download showed peculiar
>> behaviour: the estimated time kept changing between between two rather
>> high values that proved meaningless.

>> Summary:  it seems Netsurf 2.5 (RiscOS 4.39) gets confused when an
>> emailed link involves authentication.  I filed a bug report with log.

>> Anybody experienced similar?

Seems to be a Netsurf 2.5 issue. As I reported on the Netsurf mailing 
list I see the same with 2.5 (refresh renders the jpeg as a picture) 
but not with development version r10487 26 April.

Anthony

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Unknown SSL Protocol

2010-04-26 Thread Anthony Hilton
I have been using version 2.1 for most of the year since it was 
released and have been using it for online banking.

I have downloaded all the RISC OS development versions this month 
(including r10487 26 May 2010) as well as v2.5 and they all report 
"Unknown SSL Protocol error" when I go to my bank's login page.

Further testing of the development versions I have shows that r7539 23 
May 2009 allows login, r9563 09 September 2009 reports the error. 
Every development version I have since r9563 (not many until this 
month) also reports the error.

I have preserved a log from r10487 where the only activity was open my 
Hotlist and then my bank login page (8000 bytes, 1633 bytes when 
zipped). Should I put this on the bug tracker with log attached? 
and/or send the log file to someone?

Anthony

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PDF export

2008-08-09 Thread Anthony Hilton
PDF export from Netsurf is a great feature.

I have just tried the PDF export with Netsurf r4912 (05 August 2008 10:00) -
on RISC OS 4.39 - and compared it with the same page printed to PDF via the
postscript printer driver and Ghostscript (Steve Fryatt's PrintPDF making it
a single process). The website I tested with is one I maintain -
http://www.tinshillfreechurch.org.uk/

Not entirely surprising with an early implementation there is are a couple of
problems with the Netsurf export - the text is wrapped to peculiar line
lengths and a monochrome gif image is inverted (white on black instead of
black on white). The benefit of the Netsurf export is that it accurately
represents the intended look of the page with a dark brown border and all the
text is rendered within the page.

The PrintPDF version crops the right side of the page losing some text,
probably because of absolute widths in the stylesheet for div.container,
div.left and div.content. Printing to a bitmap using !Sprinter shows the same
crop problem suggesting to me that this problem is either due to the RISC OS
printing system or Netsurf's printing routines. Could Netsurf's printing
routines overcome this problem? Should I log it on the bug tracker with an
example file?

The two pdf files are available from
http://www.tinshill.f9.co.uk/ant/pdftest.htm and I could make the bitmap
print available as a gifs if required.

Anthony

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Re: Changing the colour in Google lists when it has been read.

2008-06-05 Thread Anthony Hilton
In news:local.netsurf> on Thu 05 Jun, Richard Porter wrote:
> On 5 Jun 2008 Tim Hill wrote:
> 
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael
> > Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> One of the things that I truly miss after Fresco is that when I had a
> >> list of Google finds, once I had read it, the colour changed to a
> >> darker shade of blue. So I didn't go back and read the same find
> >> again. But now I do. An irritation! The marker doesn't have to be a
> >> change in colour, anything would do. Some people have difficulties
> >> with colour, my brother is red-green colour blind, so I am very aware
> >> of it, though it's not my problem.
> 
> > I don't know how the developers feel about the urgency of this one but I
> > would have thought it a pretty fundamental function of any helpful
> > hypertext browser to indicate (usually with colour) any visited links,
> > including those on legacy pages.
> 
> > This may be under the catch-all "HTML4 - Nearly Done" and "CSS 1 - Nearly
> > Done". vlink is also present in HTML5 so perhaps we must but wait.
> 
> I think the problem is that the developers have chosen to implement 
> HTML4 and CSS before HTML1. Link colours in the  tag are 
> ignored. This is a long standing issue.
> 

Michael's question isn't a link colour in a  tag question.

Surely it is a browser setting to change the colour of a link which has been
followed.

Anthony

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Re: Parsing failed?

2008-03-05 Thread Anthony Hilton
In news:local.netsurf> on Wed 05 Mar, Tim Hill wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Is it a NetSurf problem, or is there something amiss with this page? :
> > http://www.glassdoctors.co.uk/chipsandmot.html I can only get the error
> > "Parsing the document failed" on any of the pages of this site.
> 
> > They all seem to work on Windoze  :o(
> 
> A shame that windoze browsers do work but should they? The page begins
> with .
> 

It loads into Fresco. There are significant quantities of javascript and the
final comment tag is not closed. 

Anthony

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