Re: Changing address in the address bar
On Mon, December 1, 2008 4:26 pm, Bryn Evans wrote: snip There is a little utility called !Writable that enables overtyping in the URL bar of NetSurf - Sorry I don't know the source offhand. It can be found at http://www.etcsystems.co.uk/zips/writableicon.zip HTH Dave
Re: Changing address in the address bar
On 30 Nov 2008 Harriet Bazley wrote: I find it more useful to place the cursor at the end of whatever portion of the URL I wish to keep and to press Ctrl-Copy to delete right to end of icon instead I find that the 'End' key seems to have the same function as the old BBC 'Copy' key. Richard Porter wrote on 30 Nov: Yes you're quite right - Ctrl-End does the job. Useful shortcut when you know it! in many apps (e.g. Edit, Impression) Ctrl-End deletes the WHOLE line where the cursor is sitting. i use this a lot and often wish that MPro's editor followed suit. but deleting from cursor to the END of the line (as Harriet does in Netsurf addressbar) is useful too. it would also often be useful to have a quick way to delete from the cursor to the START of the line. what does the styleguide say on this? presumably Edit is obedient? -- no need to reply my entire message back to me ;=] Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk Abbey Press 32 Norbins Rd(01458) 83 3603 Glastonbury BA6 9JG pocket 0797 415 3861
Re: Changing address in the address bar
On 2 Dec 2008 Jim Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Nov 2008 Harriet Bazley wrote: I find it more useful to place the cursor at the end of whatever portion of the URL I wish to keep and to press Ctrl-Copy to delete right to end of icon instead [snip] in many apps (e.g. Edit, Impression) Ctrl-End deletes the WHOLE line where the cursor is sitting. i use this a lot and often wish that MPro's editor followed suit. but deleting from cursor to the END of the line (as Harriet does in Netsurf addressbar) is useful too. it would also often be useful to have a quick way to delete from the cursor to the START of the line. what does the styleguide say on this? presumably Edit is obedient? There seems to be confusion here between the behaviour of single line text icons (i.e. the URL bar) and full editor applications (Edit and Impression). The two have never behaved the same way, although with Select 3 bringing selections and cutpaste to iocns there are now some similaries with the behaviour encouraged for editor applications given in the style guide. Wimp icons still don't support more advanced behaviours such as keyboard short cuts to clear to the end of lines, and any application offering such facilities are employing additional code. Cheers ---Dave -- __ David J. Ruck Phone: +44- (0)7974 108301 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __
Re: Changing address in the address bar
In a mad moment - David J. Ruck mumbled : It's been a requirement of the Style Guide since at least 1993, so arguably RISC OS has always behaved this way. I don't think so. Over typing has only been generally possible (as opposed to non standard behaviour in specific apps) since copy paste in icons was introduced in Select 3 in 2003, 10 years after the style guide was written. There is a little utility called !Writable that enables overtyping in the URL bar of NetSurf - Sorry I don't know the source offhand. -- |)[ |)ryn [vansmail to - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing address in the address bar
On 28 Nov, Alan Calder wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28 Nov 2008 Alan Calder wrote: Double-clicking certainly highlights the existing address for me. I agree that typing in a new address doesn't work as might be expected ie deleting the highlighted text and replacing it with the new text. That's not what's expected in RISC OS! One or two apps do it, e.g. Impression, but normally typing in text doesn't replace selected text. Impression, yes, and Easiwriter, Artworks, Datapower and probably others whilst in Oreganos 1 2 overtyping in the address bar works 'as expected'. Wouldn't be suprised if the same was true of FFox but I can't be bothered to fire it up - life's too short. :-) I think it can reasonably said that overtyping in browser address bars is now expected behaviour whatever RO might traditionally have done It's been a requirement of the Style Guide since at least 1993, so arguably RISC OS has always behaved this way. -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/
Re: Changing address in the address bar
On 29 Nov 2008 as I do recall, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As it it is the only way seems to be too highlight and press Delete or to use the time-honoured RO method of placing the caret in the address bar and pressing Ctrl-U to clear it. Ctrl-U is easier unless you want to keep the http://www. I find it more useful to place the cursor at the end of whatever portion of the URL I wish to keep and to press Ctrl-Copy to delete right to end of icon instead -- Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie == Please all, and you will please none.
Re: Changing address in the address bar
On 30 Nov 2008 Steve Fryatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28 Nov, Alan Calder wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28 Nov 2008 Alan Calder wrote: Double-clicking certainly highlights the existing address for me. I agree that typing in a new address doesn't work as might be expected ie deleting the highlighted text and replacing it with the new text. That's not what's expected in RISC OS! One or two apps do it, e.g. Impression, but normally typing in text doesn't replace selected text. Impression, yes, and Easiwriter, Artworks, Datapower and probably others whilst in Oreganos 1 2 overtyping in the address bar works 'as expected'. Wouldn't be suprised if the same was true of FFox but I can't be bothered to fire it up - life's too short. :-) I think it can reasonably said that overtyping in browser address bars is now expected behaviour whatever RO might traditionally have done It's been a requirement of the Style Guide since at least 1993, so arguably RISC OS has always behaved this way. I don't think so. Over typing has only been generally possible (as opposed to non standard behaviour in specific apps) since copy paste in icons was introduced in Select 3 in 2003, 10 years after the style guide was written. Cheers ---Dave -- __ David J. Ruck Phone: +44- (0)7974 108301 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __
Re: Changing address in the address bar
On 30 Nov 2008 Harriet Bazley wrote: On 29 Nov 2008 as I do recall, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As it it is the only way seems to be too highlight and press Delete or to use the time-honoured RO method of placing the caret in the address bar and pressing Ctrl-U to clear it. Ctrl-U is easier unless you want to keep the http://www. I find it more useful to place the cursor at the end of whatever portion of the URL I wish to keep and to press Ctrl-Copy to delete right to end of icon instead Eh? I haven't got a Copy key. Is that Delete on the RPC keyboard? -- _ |_|. _ Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ |\_||_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: I disclaim everything.
Re: Changing address in the address bar
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Nov 2008 Harriet Bazley wrote: I find it more useful to place the cursor at the end of whatever portion of the URL I wish to keep and to press Ctrl-Copy to delete right to end of icon instead Eh? I haven't got a Copy key. Is that Delete on the RPC keyboard? I find that the 'End' key seems to have the same function as the old BBC 'Copy' key. -- Barry A.
Re: Changing address in the address bar
On 30 Nov 2008 Barry E Allen wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Nov 2008 Harriet Bazley wrote: I find it more useful to place the cursor at the end of whatever portion of the URL I wish to keep and to press Ctrl-Copy to delete right to end of icon instead Eh? I haven't got a Copy key. Is that Delete on the RPC keyboard? I find that the 'End' key seems to have the same function as the old BBC 'Copy' key. Yes you're quite right - Ctrl-End does the job. Useful shortcut when you know it! -- _ |_|. _ Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ |\_||_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: I disclaim everything.
Re: Changing address in the address bar
On 30 Nov, Richard Porter wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 30 Nov 2008 Harriet Bazley wrote: I find it more useful to place the cursor at the end of whatever portion of the URL I wish to keep and to press Ctrl-Copy to delete right to end of icon instead Eh? I haven't got a Copy key. Is that Delete on the RPC keyboard? The End key (it was copy on the A3000 and earlier). -- Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/
Changing address in the address bar
Hello. Is there any easy way to change the address in the address bar ? Double clicking doesn't do anything, and I can't do better than erasing the address to type a new one. Regards, Xavier.
Re: Changing address in the address bar
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Xavier Tardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. Is there any easy way to change the address in the address bar ? Double clicking doesn't do anything, and I can't do better than erasing the address to type a new one. Double-clicking certainly highlights the existing address for me. I agree that typing in a new address doesn't work as might be expected ie deleting the highlighted text and replacing it with the new text. Wish it did! As it it is the only way seems to be too highlight and press Delete or to use the time-honoured RO method of placing the caret in the address bar and pressing Ctrl-U to clear it. Cheers Alan -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
Re: Changing address in the address bar
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Xavier Tardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any easy way to change the address in the address bar ? Double clicking doesn't do anything, and I can't do better than erasing the address to type a new one. It's just a normal text input / writable icon as provided by the OS, so it behaves however they usually behave on your system. If you're running RISC OS, then double clicking does nothing unless you use a ROL OS later than Select 2 or 3 (whenever they added text selection in writable icons), in which case it will select the text. On other versions of RISC OS, ctrl+u empties the writable icon with the caret in it. I'm not sure what the behaviour on Linux/BeOS/AmigaOS is but it should match the rest of the desktop. What do you mean by an easy way to change the address? Michael -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Changing address in the address bar
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Calder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Xavier Tardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Double-clicking certainly highlights the existing address for me. Because you are running a version of RISC OS which supports text selection in writable icons (4.39). I agree that typing in a new address doesn't work as might be expected ie deleting the highlighted text and replacing it with the new text. Wish it did! If that's what you want, you need to configure RISC OS to do it. Run Configure, click Windows, click Windows on the new window, go to the Text selection section. Set the Insert behaviour to Delete selection in the Keyboard input effects bit. I agree this behaviour is much better, I don't know why ROL didn't make it the default. Michael -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Changing address in the address bar
On 28 Nov 2008 Alan Calder wrote: Xavier Tardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. Is there any easy way to change the address in the address bar ? Double-clicking certainly highlights the existing address for me. I agree that typing in a new address doesn't work as might be expected ie deleting the highlighted text and replacing it with the new text. That's not what's expected in RISC OS! One or two apps do it, e.g. Impression, but normally typing in text doesn't replace selected text. As it it is the only way seems to be too highlight and press Delete or to use the time-honoured RO method of placing the caret in the address bar and pressing Ctrl-U to clear it. Ctrl-U is easier unless you want to keep the http://www. -- _ |_|. _ Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ |\_||_mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: I disclaim everything.
Re: Changing address in the address bar
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ctrl-U is easier unless you want to keep the http://www. You can just press F2. It clears the URL bar to www. and places the caret in the URL bar. The http://; is added by default anyway, so you don't need that. Michael -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: Changing address in the address bar
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28 Nov 2008 Alan Calder wrote: Xavier Tardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Snip] Is there any easy way to change the address in the address bar ? Double-clicking certainly highlights the existing address for me. I agree that typing in a new address doesn't work as might be expected ie deleting the highlighted text and replacing it with the new text. That's not what's expected in RISC OS! One or two apps do it, e.g. Impression, but normally typing in text doesn't replace selected text. Impression, yes, and Easiwriter, Artworks, Datapower and probably others whilst in Oreganos 1 2 overtyping in the address bar works 'as expected'. Wouldn't be suprised if the same was true of FFox but I can't be bothered to fire it up - life's too short. :-) I think it can reasonably said that overtyping in browser address bars is now expected behaviour whatever RO might traditionally have done and I believe that Xavier uses non-RO systems also. Cheers Alan [Snip] -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
Re: Changing address in the address bar
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Calder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Snip] Double-clicking certainly highlights the existing address for me. Because you are running a version of RISC OS which supports text selection in writable icons (4.39). I agree that typing in a new address doesn't work as might be expected ie deleting the highlighted text and replacing it with the new text. Wish it did! If that's what you want, you need to configure RISC OS to do it. Run Configure, click Windows, click Windows on the new window, go to the Text selection section. Set the Insert behaviour to Delete selection in the Keyboard input effects bit. Ah thanks for the explanation and the info! Oh, and the earlier F2 tip. Keep forgetting there was life before 4.x! Cheers Alan [Snip] -- Alan Calder, Milton Keynes, UK.
