Re: Controlling Javascript

2013-01-17 Thread John Williams
In article <530f63fff3t...@netsurf-browser.org>,
   Michael Drake  wrote:

> about:testament should say if CI builds are built with JS.

- which conveniently works as a URL file to put on the pinboard if required.

John




Re: Controlling Javascript

2013-01-17 Thread Michael Drake
In article <8a185b0f53.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
   Peter Young  wrote:
> On 16 Jan 2013  Steve Fryatt  wrote:

> > Don't the infobox strings differ? I've not got RISC OS in front of me
> > at present, so I can't check.

> No, they don't.

about:testament should say if CI builds are built with JS.

-- 

Michael Drake (tlsa)  http://www.netsurf-browser.org/



Re: Controlling Javascript

2013-01-17 Thread Peter Young
On 16 Jan 2013  Steve Fryatt  wrote:

> On 14 Jan, Harriet Bazley wrote in message
> :

[snip]

>> Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of the
>> versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!)

> Don't the infobox strings differ? I've not got RISC OS in front of me at
> present, so I can't check.

No, they don't.

With best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Re: Controlling Javascript

2013-01-16 Thread Steve Fryatt
On 14 Jan, Harriet Bazley wrote in message
:

> Iconbar menu: Choices->Content Disable JavaScript on/off.
> 
> I'm assuming that the -jsoff versions don't have this extra option icon at
> all, since the -json versions seem to have the Disable option set by
> default.   (Probably wisest as it makes the application less stable.)

I think they do, as ISTR hitting a problem with making its appearance in the
templates conditional (in the way that the Plugins checkbox is).

On the -jsoff builds, the option will have no effect, however (and again
IIRC it's actually forced off on those builds).

> Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of the
> versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!)

Don't the infobox strings differ? I've not got RISC OS in front of me at
present, so I can't check.

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England Wakefield Acorn & RISC OS Show
 Saturday 20 April 2013
http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/   http://www.wakefieldshow.org.uk/



Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion

2013-01-15 Thread Tony Moore
On 15 Jan 2013, Tim Hill  wrote:
> In article , Tony
> Moore  wrote:
> > On 14 Jan 2013, Tim Hill  wrote:
> > > In article <89e6ff0d53.c.n@virgin.net>, ChrisF
> > >  wrote:
> > > > In message <2f9bf20d53@nails.abbeypress.net> Jim Nagel
> > > >wrote:
>
> > [snip]
>
> > > > > A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of
> > > > > programming effort): A "Javascript on/off button" on the
> > > > > toolbar.
> > >
> > > > . like Webster has.
> > >
> > > . or a shortcut keypress which could be added to Buttonbar.
>
> > A menu option would be needed for ButtonBar, or Keystroke, to work.
>
> I don't know about Keystroke but that's not true for Buttonbar. If a
> keypress is understood by an application but not in its menu, it still
> works. Just tested it with PageUp/Down for NetSurf and they work but
> are not in the menu structure.

Sorry, I misunderstood your comment. Having read it more carefully, I
agree with you. (My NetSurf ButtonBar already has the same PageUp/Down.)

Tony






Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion

2013-01-15 Thread Tim Hill
In article , Tony Moore
 wrote:
> On 14 Jan 2013, Tim Hill  wrote:
> > In article <89e6ff0d53.c.n@virgin.net>, ChrisF
> >  wrote:
> > > In message <2f9bf20d53@nails.abbeypress.net> Jim Nagel
> > >wrote:

> [snip]

> > > > A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of programming
> > > > effort): A "Javascript on/off button" on the toolbar.
> >
> > > . like Webster has.
> >
> > . or a shortcut keypress which could be added to Buttonbar.

> A menu option would be needed for ButtonBar, or Keystroke, to work.

I don't know about Keystroke but that's not true for Buttonbar. If a
keypress is understood by an application but not in its menu, it still
works. Just tested it with PageUp/Down for NetSurf and they work but are
not in the menu structure.

-- 
Tim Hill
..
www.timil.com




Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion

2013-01-14 Thread John Rickman Iyonix
Peter Young  wrote

> On 14 Jan 2013  John Rickman Iyonix  wrote:

>> Jim Nagel  wrote

>>> Using build 797 at the moment, on both RiscPC 4.39 and Iyonix 5.18.

>> did you mean #787?

> Why? I'm currently on #809, downloaded this morning by the invaluable
> Fetch_NS.

My mistake I downloaded #812 but ran #789 inadvertently.


-- 
John Rickman - http://mug.riscos.org/

For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.



Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion

2013-01-14 Thread Tony Moore
On 14 Jan 2013, Tim Hill  wrote:
> In article <89e6ff0d53.c.n@virgin.net>, ChrisF
>  wrote:
> > In message <2f9bf20d53@nails.abbeypress.net> Jim Nagel
> >wrote:

[snip]

> > > A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of programming
> > > effort): A "Javascript on/off button" on the toolbar.
>
> > . like Webster has.
>
> . or a shortcut keypress which could be added to Buttonbar.

A menu option would be needed for ButtonBar, or Keystroke, to work.

Tony






Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion

2013-01-14 Thread Tim Hill
In article <89e6ff0d53.c.n@virgin.net>, ChrisF 
wrote:
> In message <2f9bf20d53@nails.abbeypress.net> Jim Nagel
>wrote:

> > Chris Newman  wrote on 14 Jan:
> >> I get the test versions using !Fetch_NS. I'm now up to 809.
> >> JavaScript option now duly found.

> > A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of programming
> > effort): A "Javascript on/off button" on the toolbar.

> . like Webster has.

. or a shortcut keypress which could be added to Buttonbar.

-- 
Tim Hill
..
www.timil.com




Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion

2013-01-14 Thread Peter Young
On 14 Jan 2013  John Rickman Iyonix  wrote:

> Jim Nagel  wrote

>> Using build 797 at the moment, on both RiscPC 4.39 and Iyonix 5.18.

> did you mean #787?

Why? I'm currently on #809, downloaded this morning by the invaluable 
Fetch_NS.

With best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion

2013-01-14 Thread ChrisF
In message <2f9bf20d53@nails.abbeypress.net>
  Jim Nagel  wrote:

> Chris Newman  wrote on 14 Jan:
>> I get the test versions using !Fetch_NS. I'm now up to 809.
>> JavaScript option now duly found.

> A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of programming
> effort):
> A "Javascript on/off button" on the toolbar.

. like Webster has.

-- 
BW Chris F. [Supporting British RISC OS computing.]
Skype: c.n.l.f Twitter: MrChrisGB Blogsite: mr-chris-gb.blogspot.com




Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion

2013-01-14 Thread John Rickman Iyonix
Jim Nagel  wrote

> Using build 797 at the moment, on both RiscPC 4.39 and Iyonix 5.18.

did you mean #787?


-- 
John Rickman - http://mug.riscos.org/

You are not the same people who left that station Or who will arrive 
at any terminus



Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion

2013-01-14 Thread Jim Nagel
Chris Newman  wrote on 14 Jan:
> I get the test versions using !Fetch_NS. I'm now up to 809.
> JavaScript option now duly found.

A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of programming 
effort):
A "Javascript on/off button" on the toolbar.

Basically a handy shortcut to the iconbar "Choices > Content > Disable 
Javascript" tickbox.  It would be good to have the on/off handier, 
because the user needs it on a "per site" basis rather than "per 
application".  (In days of yore, Fresco had such a button, for that 
reason.)

The presence of such a button would also make it visually obvious to 
the user that a Javascript-enabled version of Netsurf is in use.  At 
present the existence of Javascript is seen only several layers down 
in Choices.

Using build 797 at the moment, on both RiscPC 4.39 and Iyonix 5.18.


-- 
Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk



Re: Controlling Javascript

2013-01-14 Thread Chris Newman
In article <20130114130007.gd15...@pepperfish.net>,
   Rob Kendrick  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:44:37PM +, Chris Newman wrote:
> > Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my
> > version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever that
> > means.

> There are two builds of each version; -json (JavaScript on) and -jsoff
> (JavaScript off).  This does not reflect the default setting, it's imply
> that the -jsoff builds do not include any JavaScript functionality at
> all.

> If you're running a release version (did you say what version you were
> running, and where you got it from) then the whole of the above is moot:
> we've not made a release with JavaScript support, only test versions.

I get the test versions using !Fetch_NS. I'm now up to 809.
JavaScript option now duly found.

Ta,

-- 
Chris



Re: Controlling Javascript

2013-01-14 Thread Chris Newman
In article <444ae90d53.c.n@virgin.net>, ChrisF  wrote:
> In message <530de884c2cvj...@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
>wrote:

> > In article , Harriet Bazley
> > wrote:
> >> On 14 Jan 2013 as I do recall, Chris Newman  wrote:

> >> I'm assuming that the -jsoff versions don't have this extra option icon
> >> at all, since the -json versions seem to have the Disable option set by
> >> default.   (Probably wisest as it makes the application less stable.)

> > Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my
> > version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever
> > that means.

> >> Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of
> >> the versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!)

> > -- Chris

> Think she means javasoft on and javasoft off. If a  version of netsurf is
> pre java soft, there isnt a json or jsoff option in the menu cos its not
> relevant.

Ah! Obvious now.Ta.

-- 
Chris



Re: Controlling Javascript

2013-01-14 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:44:37PM +, Chris Newman wrote:
> Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my
> version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever that
> means.

There are two builds of each version; -json (JavaScript on) and -jsoff
(JavaScript off).  This does not reflect the default setting, it's imply
that the -jsoff builds do not include any JavaScript functionality at
all.

If you're running a release version (did you say what version you were
running, and where you got it from) then the whole of the above is moot:
we've not made a release with JavaScript support, only test versions.

B.



Re: Controlling Javascript

2013-01-14 Thread ChrisF
In message <530de884c2cvj...@waitrose.com>
  Chris Newman  wrote:

> In article ,
>Harriet Bazley  wrote:
>> On 14 Jan 2013 as I do recall,
>>   Chris Newman  wrote:

>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Sojourning temporarily in Australia, I've not kept au fait with all the
>>> latest postings so could somebody please remind me how to enable/disable
>>> JavaScript.
>>>

>> Iconbar menu: Choices->Content
>> Disable JavaScript on/off.

> Thanks, Harriet. Found that now.

>> I'm assuming that the -jsoff versions don't have this extra option icon
>> at all, since the -json versions seem to have the Disable option set by
>> default.   (Probably wisest as it makes the application less stable.)

> Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my
> version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever that
> means.

>> Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of
>> the versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!)

> --
> Chris

Think she means javasoft on and javasoft off.
If a  version of netsurf is pre java soft, there isnt a json or jsoff 
option in the menu cos its not relevant.

-- 
BW Chris F. [Supporting British RISC OS computing.]
Skype: c.n.l.f Twitter: MrChrisGB Blogsite: mr-chris-gb.blogspot.com
"..and so, Milords, I'm cutting the price of my Worsley coal by half." 
Duke Bridgewater.



Re: Controlling Javascript

2013-01-14 Thread Chris Newman
In article ,
   Harriet Bazley  wrote:
> On 14 Jan 2013 as I do recall,
>   Chris Newman  wrote:

> > Hi,
> >
> > Sojourning temporarily in Australia, I've not kept au fait with all the
> > latest postings so could somebody please remind me how to enable/disable
> > JavaScript.
> >

> Iconbar menu: Choices->Content
> Disable JavaScript on/off.

Thanks, Harriet. Found that now.

> I'm assuming that the -jsoff versions don't have this extra option icon
> at all, since the -json versions seem to have the Disable option set by
> default.   (Probably wisest as it makes the application less stable.)

Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my
version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever that
means.

> Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of
> the versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!)

-- 
Chris



Re: Controlling Javascript

2013-01-13 Thread Harriet Bazley
On 14 Jan 2013 as I do recall,
  Chris Newman  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Sojourning temporarily in Australia, I've not kept au fait with all the
> latest postings so could somebody please remind me how to enable/disable
> JavaScript.
>

Iconbar menu: Choices->Content
Disable JavaScript on/off.

I'm assuming that the -jsoff versions don't have this extra option icon
at all, since the -json versions seem to have the Disable option set by
default.   (Probably wisest as it makes the application less stable.)

Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of
the versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!)


-- 
Harriet Bazley ==  Loyaulte me lie ==

Joseph Stalin's grave was a Communist Plot.



Controlling Javascript

2013-01-13 Thread Chris Newman
Hi,

Sojourning temporarily in Australia, I've not kept au fait with all the
latest postings so could somebody please remind me how to enable/disable
JavaScript.

I'm using Virtual Acorn SA 4.02  on Windows XP laptop & am up to test build,
809. I have merged the latest !Boot & !System to make sure I'm up to date.

I've checke the user information in the documentation & it still says
there is no support for JavaScript.

Yours in the usual confusion,

-- 
Chris