Feature req: completely turn off saved web page app iconsprites/replace with generic?

2013-12-30 Thread Simon Smith
When you save a local copy of a web page with NetSurf you get an icon file
which is a tiny thumbnail view of the entire web page. I don't like these
very much - I find them untidy. Given that you can control whether or not
iconised windows use thumbnail images, it's a bit odd that one has no
control at all over the 'saved page icons'. I'd prefer a generic 'saved web
page' app icon, or nothing at all, giving the RISC OS default icon. If a web
page provided an .ico file, I guess many people might prefer to use
that.

Is it possible to turn off the 'IconSprites' line in the mini !Run files
NetSurf provides you, which currently reads

"IconSprites .!Sprites
Filer_Run .index"

Providing better control over this does seem like a legit use for a
configuration option. I'm a bit surprised that !Run file (and/or an
option Boot file) aren't available as editable resources.

At present I'm deleting the unwanted Sprites files and tweaking the !Run
files by hand, which is a chore.

Thanks.

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Re: Feature req: completely turn off saved web page app iconsprites/replace with generic?

2013-12-31 Thread Tim Hill
In article , Simon Smith
 wrote:
> When you save a local copy of a web page with NetSurf you get an icon
> file  which is a tiny thumbnail view of the entire web page. I don't
> like these very much - I find them untidy. Given that you can control
> whether or not iconised windows use thumbnail images, it's a bit odd
> that one has no control at all over the 'saved page icons'.

It isn't odd at all. Different things are done differently by different
things. I am sure the NS devs thought that an iconised page was ideal. I
tend to agree. It harmonises with the current history display by having
the 'same' thumbnails.

> I'd prefer
> a generic 'saved web page' app icon, or nothing at all, giving the RISC
> OS default icon. If a web page provided an .ico file, I guess many
> people might prefer to use that.

Unless you were saving lots of pages from one site and different
miniature versions of the page may be better than them all having the
same icon.

> Is it possible to turn off the 'IconSprites' line in the mini !Run
> files NetSurf provides you, which currently reads

> "IconSprites .!Sprites Filer_Run .index"

Apart from deleting the iconsprites line or by putting a pipe "|" in
front of the command? Though you may find that an application directory
will always load a !Sprites file if it can so deleting that prevents it.

> Providing better control over this does seem like a legit use for a
> configuration option. I'm a bit surprised that !Run file (and/or an
> option Boot file) aren't available as editable resources.

> At present I'm deleting the unwanted Sprites files and tweaking the
> !Run files by hand, which is a chore.

It may be a chore but I'm guessing many will read that and ask "why
bother?".




Re: Feature req: completely turn off saved web page app iconsprites/replace with generic?

2013-12-31 Thread Richard Porter
On 31 Dec 2013 Tim Hill  wrote:

> In article , Simon Smith
>  wrote:
>> When you save a local copy of a web page with NetSurf you get an icon
>> file  which is a tiny thumbnail view of the entire web page. I don't
>> like these very much - I find them untidy. Given that you can control
>> whether or not iconised windows use thumbnail images, it's a bit odd
>> that one has no control at all over the 'saved page icons'.

> It isn't odd at all. Different things are done differently by different
> things. I am sure the NS devs thought that an iconised page was ideal. I
> tend to agree. It harmonises with the current history display by having
> the 'same' thumbnails.

I guess the real question is whether you want to save a web page as an 
application or just as a directory with an index.html file. It can be 
convenient just to double-click on the app although in practice the 
main reason I use "full save" is to save all the image files in one go 
in which case a normal directory would do. The 'large' filer icon is 
really too small to be useful as a thumbnail but I don't have a 
problem with its use as such.

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