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In article ac26828652.r...@user.minijem.plus.com, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: When NetSurf is displaying the following page and others on the same site the pointer starts flickering 2 or 3 times a second between a pointing hand and an hour glass. http://www.therailengineer.com/2012/04/26/bs11000-working-together-achieving-more/ This only happens when the top part of the page is displayed. Should be fixed in build #1277. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
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The following bytes were arranged on 26 Apr 2012 by Brian Jordan : In article 52869aceb1dhw...@talktalk.net, David H Wild dhw...@talktalk.net wrote: [Snip] It does it here on my RPC 6.20 with r13571 as long as the picture is on the screen. Moving the page so that the picture is off the display stops the flicker but moving it back restarts the flickering. Cat- pigeons On my emulated machine (details in sig) and NetSurf r13571 I see no evidence of this flickering, just the pointing hand. Can I just voice what seems to me to be the most screamingly obvious theory? Everyone seeing the flickering is using a real StrongARM RiscPC or similar. Everyone not seeing the flickering is using an Iyonix or better, or StrongARM VRPC (which has an option to go much faster than a real StrongARM). Therefore, the hourglass problem is caused by your processor not being fast enough to process whatever it is that page is doing. (PS: I don't see it on this Iyonix either.) -- __^__ === RISC OS is a work of art. Some people adore it, === / _ _ \ === others can't see the point of it, and it's really === ( ( |_| ) ) === expensive.=== \_ _/ === Martin Bazley ===
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In article a647008752.mar...@blueyonder.co.uk, Martin Bazley martin.baz...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Therefore, the hourglass problem is caused by your processor not being fast enough to process whatever it is that page is doing. Well, yes, but we aim to support really slow systems. You can reproduce it on an Iyonix. If you go to 256 colours with error diffused bitmaps, scale the page to 300% or so and fill a 1680x1050 screen with a NetSurf window showing just that image, then you get the pointer flicker as reported. (Assuming animations are enabled.) The issue isn't processor speed but a NetSurf bug. We shouldn't be redrawing the JPEG over and over but we are because behind it is an animated throbber GIF, meant to show the image is loading before it loads. The animation is still there when the page is fully loaded, and it still requests that area to be redrawn. We need to avoid redraw requests from obscured content. -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
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In article a647008752.mar...@blueyonder.co.uk, Martin Bazley martin.baz...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Everyone seeing the flickering is using a real StrongARM RiscPC or similar. Everyone not seeing the flickering is using an Iyonix or better, or StrongARM VRPC (which has an option to go much faster than a real StrongARM). Well, I tried the link and noticed no flicker, but I use a release version, 2.8. *Real* RPC, RO 4.02, 64M RAM -- Russell Hafter - Mailing Lists rh.li...@phone.coop Need a hotel? http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__bluecustomerId=416873103 (NB This link needs Firefox to work)
Nervous tick
When Netsurf is displaying the following page and others on the same site the pointer starts flickering 2 or 3 times a second between a pointing hand and an hour glass. http://www.therailengineer.com/2012/04/26/bs11000-working-together-achieving-more/ This only happens when the top part of the page is displayed. If you scroll down it stops; if you scroll back up so that most of the image is shown it starts again. If you're working in another window over the top it stops. If you bring NetSurf to the top it resumes. What's going on? Currently using r13534. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
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On 26 Apr 2012, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: When Netsurf is displaying the following page and others on the same site the pointer starts flickering 2 or 3 times a second between a pointing hand and an hour glass. http://www.therailengineer.com/2012/04/26/bs11000-working-together-achieving-more/ [snip] Currently using r13534. No problem here with r13571 Tony
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On 26 Apr 2012 Tony Moore wrote: On 26 Apr 2012, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: When Netsurf is displaying the following page and others on the same site the pointer starts flickering 2 or 3 times a second between a pointing hand and an hour glass. http://www.therailengineer.com/2012/04/26/bs11000-working-together-ach ieving-more/ [snip] Currently using r13534. No problem here with r13571 Still doing it for me now with r13571 -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
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In message 86a88c8652.r...@user.minijem.plus.com Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: On 26 Apr 2012 Tony Moore wrote: On 26 Apr 2012, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: When Netsurf is displaying the following page and others on the same site the pointer starts flickering 2 or 3 times a second between a pointing hand and an hour glass. http://www.therailengineer.com/2012/04/26/bs11000-working-together-ach ieving-more/ [snip] Currently using r13534. No problem here with r13571 Still doing it for me now with r13571 No such problem for me with r13571. Dave
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On 26 Apr 2012 Dave Higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: In message 86a88c8652.r...@user.minijem.plus.com Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: On 26 Apr 2012 Tony Moore wrote: On 26 Apr 2012, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: When Netsurf is displaying the following page and others on the same site the pointer starts flickering 2 or 3 times a second between a pointing hand and an hour glass. http://www.therailengineer.com/2012/04/26/bs11000-working-together-ach ieving-more/ [snip] Currently using r13534. No problem here with r13571 Still doing it for me now with r13571 No such problem for me with r13571. If you look at at that page in Windows Firefox the top bit looks a bit different. I have neither the expertise, nor at the moment the time, to explore that any further, but perhaps an expert among you might find a clue that way? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter \ / zfc Hf \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 and \/ ____ \ England. family / / \ | | |\ | / _ \ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
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On 26 Apr, Dave Higton wrote: No such problem for me with r13571. Ditto here, same version. I wonder if it's a graphics thing - Dave and me are using RO5.18, the two reporting flicker are using RO6.nn. -- Brian Howlett - Isn't it strange that the same people that laugh at gypsy fortune tellers take economists seriously?
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In article df6b988652.davehig...@dsl.pipex.com, Dave Higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: When Netsurf is displaying the following page and others on the same site the pointer starts flickering 2 or 3 times a second between a pointing hand and an hour glass. http://www.therailengineer.com/2012/04/26/bs11000-working-together-ach ieving-more/ [snip] Currently using r13534. No problem here with r13571 Still doing it for me now with r13571 No such problem for me with r13571. It does it here on my RPC 6.20 with r13571 as long as the picture is on the screen. Moving the page so that the picture is off the display stops the flicker but moving it back restarts the flickering. -- David Wild using RISC OS on broadband www.davidhwild.me.uk
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In article 52869aceb1dhw...@talktalk.net, David H Wild dhw...@talktalk.net wrote: [Snip] It does it here on my RPC 6.20 with r13571 as long as the picture is on the screen. Moving the page so that the picture is off the display stops the flicker but moving it back restarts the flickering. Cat- pigeons On my emulated machine (details in sig) and NetSurf r13571 I see no evidence of this flickering, just the pointing hand. The problem seems to be that the picture is part of a link (on PC Firefox clicking on it causes an enlarged version of the picture to cover the underlying page) but there is a missing /span in the html. After doing a Full save on the page and inserting the /span appropriately the effect is quite different; when the image is selected the picture appears in NetSurf, not on the same page as in Firefox but in a new page. As I didn't see the tic in the first place I can't confirm whether this has made it go away. The corrected full save is in www.btinternet.com/~brian.jordan9/netsurf/page.zip if you want to give it a try. Brian -- _ Brian Jordan Virtual RPC-AdjustSA RISC OS 6.20 _
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In article 52869aceb1dhw...@talktalk.net, David H Wild dhw...@talktalk.net wrote: It does it here on my RPC 6.20 with r13571 as long as the picture is on the screen. Moving the page so that the picture is off the display stops the flicker but moving it back restarts the flickering. I don't get this problem here (RO5). Richard, are you on RO6 too? David/Richard, what's your memory cache size set to? (NetSurf iconbar menu, Choices Cache, Size) -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
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In article 52869f2d30t...@netsurf-browser.org, Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: It does it here on my RPC 6.20 with r13571 as long as the picture is on the screen. Moving the page so that the picture is off the display stops the flicker but moving it back restarts the flickering. I don't get this problem here (RO5). Richard, are you on RO6 too? David/Richard, what's your memory cache size set to? 6.4 meg. -- David Wild using RISC OS on broadband www.davidhwild.me.uk
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In article 5286a279dbdhw...@talktalk.net, David H Wild dhw...@talktalk.net wrote: David/Richard, what's your memory cache size set to? 6.4 meg. Could you retry after increasing it to 20 MB or so? -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
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On 26 Apr 2012 Michael Drake wrote: In article 52869aceb1dhw...@talktalk.net, David H Wild dhw...@talktalk.net wrote: It does it here on my RPC 6.20 with r13571 as long as the picture is on the screen. Moving the page so that the picture is off the display stops the flicker but moving it back restarts the flickering. I don't get this problem here (RO5). Richard, are you on RO6 too? Yes. (RPC with vPod) David/Richard, what's your memory cache size set to? (NetSurf iconbar menu, Choices Cache, Size) 5MB. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
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On 26 Apr 2012 Michael Drake wrote: In article 5286a279dbdhw...@talktalk.net, David H Wild dhw...@talktalk.net wrote: David/Richard, what's your memory cache size set to? 6.4 meg. Could you retry after increasing it to 20 MB or so? No difference. Brian's fixed page is OK though. -- Richard Porterhttp://www.minijem.plus.com/ mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com I don't want a user experience - I just want stuff that works.
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Hi, I'm running VARPC with RISC OS Adjust 4.39 using the StrongARM emulation and NetSurf r13571. No Problems. Pointer behaves exactly as expected. Alan On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:42:23 +1200, Dave Higton davehig...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: In message 86a88c8652.r...@user.minijem.plus.com Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: On 26 Apr 2012 Tony Moore wrote: On 26 Apr 2012, Richard Porter r...@minijem.plus.com wrote: When Netsurf is displaying the following page and others on the same site the pointer starts flickering 2 or 3 times a second between a pointing hand and an hour glass. http://www.therailengineer.com/2012/04/26/bs11000-working-together-ach ieving-more/ [snip] Currently using r13534. No problem here with r13571 Still doing it for me now with r13571 No such problem for me with r13571. Dave
