Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-16 Thread Chris Newman
In article <20180815202235.gs13...@platypus.pepperfish.net>,
   Rob Kendrick  wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 09:19:02PM +0100, Chris Newman wrote:
> >
> > I got one of these but my mail was posted anyway. (see above). I'm confused
> > (normal state).
> > 
> > "You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
> > been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
> > being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
> > netsurf-dev-ow...@netsurf-browser.org."

> Look carefully at the To: field in the email you sent: you also send it
> to our developer's list, which I assume you are not subscribed to.

Ah! I  just chose reply to mail list in Pluto. I've done that now & only see 

netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org

in the To field.

-- 
Chris



Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-16 Thread Richard Porter
On 16 Aug 2018 Brian  wrote:

> In article <43bd28b6-0a6b-80db-f112-a1e5a014f...@codethink.co.uk>,
>Michael Drake  wrote:
>> On 15/08/18 21:33, Peter Young wrote:

>>> Yes, I got one of those too. Why ask for a reply to a closed group to a
>>> message to the general public?

>> I simply sent the e-mail to two mailing lists, so that
>> it would be seen by people who are only on one of them.

>> Both are public, but you might not be subscribed to both.

> Ah, is that what happened! 8-)

It's best not to post to two or more lists at the same time. Unless the 
recipients have done their filtering carefully all the posts could end up 
in the first list to be found e.g. if they filter on "To:" rather than 
"List-ID:".

Richard

-- 
Richard Porter  http://www.minijem.plus.com/
t: @westernexplorer mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com
I don't want a "user experience" - I just want stuff that works.



Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-16 Thread Brian
In article <43bd28b6-0a6b-80db-f112-a1e5a014f...@codethink.co.uk>,
   Michael Drake  wrote:
> On 15/08/18 21:33, Peter Young wrote:

> > Yes, I got one of those too. Why ask for a reply to a closed group to a 
> > message to the general public?

> I simply sent the e-mail to two mailing lists, so that
> it would be seen by people who are only on one of them.

> Both are public, but you might not be subscribed to both.

Ah, is that what happened! 8-)

Cheers,




Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-16 Thread Michael Drake
On 15/08/18 21:33, Peter Young wrote:

> Yes, I got one of those too. Why ask for a reply to a closed group to a 
> message to the general public?

I simply sent the e-mail to two mailing lists, so that
it would be seen by people who are only on one of them.

Both are public, but you might not be subscribed to both.

Cheers,

-- 
Michael Drake https://www.codethink.co.uk/



Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Peter Young
On 15 Aug 2018  Rob Kendrick  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 09:19:02PM +0100, Chris Newman wrote:
>>
>> I got one of these but my mail was posted anyway. (see above). I'm confused
>> (normal state).
>> 
>> "You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
>> been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
>> being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
>> netsurf-dev-ow...@netsurf-browser.org."

> Look carefully at the To: field in the email you sent: you also send it
> to our developer's list, which I assume you are not subscribed to.

Yes, I got one of those too. Why ask for a reply to a closed group to a 
message to the general public?

Best wishes,

Peter (a.k.a grumpy old git of Cheltenham).

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Au) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 09:19:02PM +0100, Chris Newman wrote:
>
> I got one of these but my mail was posted anyway. (see above). I'm confused
> (normal state).
> 
> "You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
> been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
> being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
> netsurf-dev-ow...@netsurf-browser.org."

Look carefully at the To: field in the email you sent: you also send it
to our developer's list, which I assume you are not subscribed to.

B.



Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Chris Newman
On 15 Aug, cvj...@waitrose.com wrote:
> In article <54ae062857.ke...@talktalk.net>,
>Kevin Wells  wrote:
> > In message <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>
> >   Michael Drake  wrote:

> > >
> > >Hello,
> > >
> > >Could people please test build #4403 or later?  (Or build from
> > >latest master, if you compile from source.)

> > >
> > Seems to work OK with RISC OS on build 4407

> 4410 seems to be OK here on RiscPC Strong ARMv4 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod.

I got one of these but my mail was posted anyway. (see above). I'm confused
(normal state).

"You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
netsurf-dev-ow...@netsurf-browser.org."

-- 
Chris



Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Chris Newman
In article <54ae062857.ke...@talktalk.net>,
   Kevin Wells  wrote:
> In message <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>
>   Michael Drake  wrote:

> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >Could people please test build #4403 or later?  (Or build from
> >latest master, if you compile from source.)

> >
> Seems to work OK with RISC OS on build 4407

4410 seems to be OK here on RiscPC Strong ARMv4 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod.

-- 
Chris



Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Kevin Wells
In message <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>
  Michael Drake  wrote:

>
>Hello,
>
>Could people please test build #4403 or later?  (Or build from
>latest master, if you compile from source.)
>
>   https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/
>
>We are close to making a release, and would like to check that
>nothing is broken.
>
>I am particularly interested to hear from anyone who can run
>the following platforms:
>
>- Amiga
>- Atari
>- Haiku
>- RISC OS
>- Windows
>
>We have just changed the way that HTTP authentication works,
>so I would be grateful if people could check that anything
>that requires an HTTP basic auth login still works with the
>latest build.
>
>If you don't know any sites which use HTTP authentication,
>you can use:
>
>   https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar
>
>   (Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password,
>   and you can change the "correct" username and password
>   by changing the URL.)
>
>However, testing with real-world sites is better.
>
>Please try entering the incorrect credentials, the correct
>credentials, and canceling the login, by closing the login
>window.
>
Seems to work OK with RISC OS on build 4407


-- 
Kev Wells
http://kevsoft.co.uk/
But it's " Saviour of 'is country " when the guns begin to shoot;



Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Frederick Bambrough
In message <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>
 Michael Drake  wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> Could people please test build #4403 or later?  (Or build from latest
> master, if you compile from source.)
> 
>https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/
> 
> We are close to making a release, and would like to check that nothing
> is broken.
[snip]

All pass here with test site & ROOL. RISC OS 5.25, NS #4406.



Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Michael Drake



On 15/08/18 12:08, Jim Nagel wrote:
> Michael Drake  wrote on 15 Aug:
>> Please try entering the incorrect credentials, the correct
>> credentials, and canceling the login, by closing the login window.
> 
> Problem arises in testing this:  After a successful login, Netsurf 
> will return to the site without asking again for credentials.
> 
> How do we make it forget so that we can try again to see what happens 
> with bogus credentials?

With https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar you can
adjust the "correct" credentials by altering the
URL.  For example:

  https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/elephant/potato

Cheers,

-- 
Michael Drake https://www.codethink.co.uk/



Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Brian
On 15 Aug, bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote:
> In article ,
>Michael Drake  wrote:


> > On 15/08/18 09:05, Brian wrote:
> > > In article <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>,
> > >Michael Drake  wrote:

> > >>https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar
> > > 
> > >>(Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password,
> > >>and you can change the "correct" username and password
> > >>by changing the URL.)
> > > 
> > > Seems not to work. Serious error - crashes NetSurf.

> Oh, and 'Unable to fetch document'

> > Which platform are you testing on?

> Win 7, VRPC, RISC OS 4.02, NetSurf #4402

Ah, was your message ahead of build updates, perhaps? I updated within
seconds of the message!

Anyway, now running Win 7, VRPC, RISC OS 4.02, NetSurf #4405 - now appears
to be functioning correctly. 

[snip]

Best wishes

Brian




Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Jim Nagel
Michael Drake  wrote on 15 Aug:
> Please try entering the incorrect credentials, the correct
> credentials, and canceling the login, by closing the login window.

Problem arises in testing this:  After a successful login, Netsurf 
will return to the site without asking again for credentials.

How do we make it forget so that we can try again to see what happens 
with bogus credentials?

(Of course no problem if I had more carefully read Michael's 
instruction that said to try with incorrect credentials *first*.)

-- 
Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk





Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Jim Nagel
Michael Drake  wrote on 15 Aug:
> Please try entering the incorrect credentials, the correct
> credentials, and canceling the login, by closing the login
> window.

Using newly installed #4405 here on ArmX6 with Ro5.25.
All the above tests (in that order!) work OK.

Have always thought, though, that it'd be nicer if Netsurf gave some 
message when a login is unsuccessful, rather than just repeat the 
identical dialogue, which the user can feel is an infinite loop.


Some months ago I reported a site that asked for ONLY a password, 
WITHOUT a username.  Netsurf failed but other browsers coped, giving a 
reduced dialogue box.  (That site, for a wedding now past, now gives 
only an "under construction" page, but other examples might exist at 
www.squarespace.com where it was hosted.)

Dunno if Netsurf's revised code would now cope with this unusual 
situation.

-- 
Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk





Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Michael Drake
Hi Brian,

On 15/08/18 11:57, Brian wrote:
> In article ,
>Michael Drake  wrote:

>> Which platform are you testing on?
> 
> Win 7, VRPC, RISC OS 4.02, NetSurf #4402

Just spotted this!  It needs to be #4403 or later.

Please could you try with #4403 or the latest one
(currently #4405).

Cheers,

-- 
Michael Drake https://www.codethink.co.uk/



Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Michael Drake
Hi Brian,

On 15/08/18 11:57, Brian wrote:
> In article ,
>Michael Drake  wrote:

>> Can you send me the log file for the crash.
> 
> I've saved the log file but forgotten where to send it

Please e-mail it to me direct.

Cheers,

-- 
Michael Drake



Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Brian
In article ,
   Michael Drake  wrote:


> On 15/08/18 09:05, Brian wrote:
> > In article <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>,
> >Michael Drake  wrote:

> >>https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar
> > 
> >>(Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password,
> >>and you can change the "correct" username and password
> >>by changing the URL.)
> > 
> > Seems not to work. Serious error - crashes NetSurf.

Oh, and 'Unable to fetch document'

> Which platform are you testing on?

Win 7, VRPC, RISC OS 4.02, NetSurf #4402

> What exactly did you do?

As instructed.

> Can you send me the log file for the crash.

I've saved the log file but forgotten where to send it

Best wishes

Brian




Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Michael Drake



On 15/08/18 09:05, Brian wrote:
> In article <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>,
>Michael Drake  wrote:

>>https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar
> 
>>(Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password,
>>and you can change the "correct" username and password
>>by changing the URL.)
> 
> Seems not to work. Serious error - crashes NetSurf.

Which platform are you testing on?

What exactly did you do?

Can you send me the log file for the crash.

Cheers,

-- 
Michael Drake



Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Brian
In article <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>,
   Michael Drake  wrote:

> Hello,

> Could people please test build #4403 or later?  (Or build from
> latest master, if you compile from source.)

>https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/

> We are close to making a release, and would like to check that
> nothing is broken.

> I am particularly interested to hear from anyone who can run
> the following platforms:

> - Amiga
> - Atari
> - Haiku
> - RISC OS
> - Windows

> We have just changed the way that HTTP authentication works,
> so I would be grateful if people could check that anything
> that requires an HTTP basic auth login still works with the
> latest build.

> If you don't know any sites which use HTTP authentication,
> you can use:

>https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar

>(Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password,
>and you can change the "correct" username and password
>by changing the URL.)

Seems not to work. Serious error - crashes NetSurf.

[snip]

Brian




Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Peter Young
On 15 Aug 2018  Michael Drake  wrote:


> Hello,

> Could people please test build #4403 or later?  (Or build from
> latest master, if you compile from source.)

>https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/

> We are close to making a release, and would like to check that
> nothing is broken.

> I am particularly interested to hear from anyone who can run
> the following platforms:

> - Amiga
> - Atari
> - Haiku
> - RISC OS
> - Windows

I've downloaded the RISC OS version of #4003, and all looks well so far.

> We have just changed the way that HTTP authentication works,
> so I would be grateful if people could check that anything
> that requires an HTTP basic auth login still works with the
> latest build.

> If you don't know any sites which use HTTP authentication,
> you can use:

>https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar

>(Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password,
>and you can change the "correct" username and password
>by changing the URL.)

> However, testing with real-world sites is better.

> Please try entering the incorrect credentials, the correct
> credentials, and canceling the login, by closing the login
> window.

I can log into the foo bar site, and also RComp's ARMX6 password-protected 
page, so that looks good.

Many thanks to the developers,

Best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Au) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Re: Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Martin Avison
On 15 Aug in article
<3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>,
   Michael Drake  wrote:

> Could people please test build #4403 or later?  
[Snip]

> We have just changed the way that HTTP authentication works,
[Snip]

> Please try entering the incorrect credentials, the correct
> credentials, and canceling the login, 

All seems to work here (on RISC OS) as expected on both the test site
and my own site.

> by closing the login window.

One minor point is that there is no 'Close' icon on the login window,
just a Cancel button.

Martin




Please try the latest build

2018-08-15 Thread Michael Drake



Hello,

Could people please test build #4403 or later?  (Or build from
latest master, if you compile from source.)

  https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/

We are close to making a release, and would like to check that
nothing is broken.

I am particularly interested to hear from anyone who can run
the following platforms:

- Amiga
- Atari
- Haiku
- RISC OS
- Windows

We have just changed the way that HTTP authentication works,
so I would be grateful if people could check that anything
that requires an HTTP basic auth login still works with the
latest build.

If you don't know any sites which use HTTP authentication,
you can use:

  https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar

  (Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password,
  and you can change the "correct" username and password
  by changing the URL.)

However, testing with real-world sites is better.

Please try entering the incorrect credentials, the correct
credentials, and canceling the login, by closing the login
window.


Note: the Windows build doesn't yet support HTTP auth, so
  for that platform, I'm just looking for a general
  indication of whether the browser functions.


Cheers,

--
Michael Drake  http://www.netsurf-browser.org/