Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.
On 29 Sep 2009 John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 19:14 +0100, Michael Drake wrote: In article cd3479a250.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion, particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report. Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52 We have known cache problems at the moment, which causes NetSurf to eat up a lot of memory. In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never does any harm and can often do some good. :) In this particular case, there is little point in reporting it on the bug tracker. We already know what the problem is, even if the fix is decidedly non-trivial. More tickets on the tracker just adds to our workload when triaging them. If, however, you encounter NetSurf warning about a lack of memory when it's using very little (i.e. its main dynamic area is smaller than 128MB), then we do want such reports please. Loading this page as the first in a NetSurf session produces nine dynamic areas attributed to NetSurf ranging from 268K up to 131040K, so I'm not doing a bug report. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.
In article cd3479a250.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion, particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report. Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52 We have known cache problems at the moment, which causes NetSurf to eat up a lot of memory. In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never does any harm and can often do some good. :) Best regards, Michael -- Michael Drake (tlsa) http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.
On 29 Sep 2009 Michael Drake t...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In article cd3479a250.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion, particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report. Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52 We have known cache problems at the moment, which causes NetSurf to eat up a lot of memory. In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never does any harm and can often do some good. :) OK, will do tomorrow. Thanks. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 19:14 +0100, Michael Drake wrote: In article cd3479a250.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion, particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report. Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52 We have known cache problems at the moment, which causes NetSurf to eat up a lot of memory. In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never does any harm and can often do some good. :) In this particular case, there is little point in reporting it on the bug tracker. We already know what the problem is, even if the fix is decidedly non-trivial. More tickets on the tracker just adds to our workload when triaging them. If, however, you encounter NetSurf warning about a lack of memory when it's using very little (i.e. its main dynamic area is smaller than 128MB), then we do want such reports please. John.
Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.
On 29 Sep 2009 Dr Peter Young wrote: I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion, particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report. Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52 as the first page on a 500MB Iyonix (RISC OS 5.14 and NetSurf r9597) with FreeMem initially reporting 425MB free, reduces the free memory to 286MB, with warnings that NetSurf is running out of memory. There are also a lot of Error converting png messages during the loading, which takes well over 30 seconds. It seems to work OK on my RiscPC but NS has an 84MB DA which it doesn't release when the window is closed. This page does show up one of the most irritating features of NS - it it's formatting a page with a lot of graphics, and especially if you scroll down, the whole page dances up and down for many seconds. It didn't used to do this and it's really not acceptable. Why can't it work out how much space it needs for images if it's told, or do the whole lot in one go if it isn't? -- _ |_|. _ Richard Porter http://www.minijem.plus.com/ |\_||_mailto:r...@minijem.plus.com Confidentiality statement: If this isn't for you, delete it.
Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.
In article 1254248739.23233.15.ca...@duiker, John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never does any harm and can often do some good. :) In this particular case, there is little point in reporting it on the bug tracker. We already know what the problem is, even if the fix is decidedly non-trivial. More tickets on the tracker just adds to our workload when triaging them. If, however, you encounter NetSurf warning about a lack of memory when it's using very little (i.e. its main dynamic area is smaller than 128MB), then we do want such reports please. NetSurf is not complaining, but should it have five separate Dynamic Areas at once? 424K, 420K, 448K and 13 536K and with no window opening? Opening a window www.xe.com actually removes one of the dynamic areas of 4xxK, and once the page is fully loaded a second Dynamic area disappears. No changes to the sizes. Closing the window does not release any memory. This is r8240 though (used because of the memory leaking problems with later versions). -- Russell Hafter - Mailing Lists rh.li...@phone.coop Need a hotel? http://www.hrs.com/?client=en__bluecustomerId=416873103 (NB This link needs Firefox to work)
Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.
On 29 Sep 2009 John-Mark Bell j...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 19:14 +0100, Michael Drake wrote: In article cd3479a250.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk, Dr Peter Young pnyo...@ormail.co.uk wrote: I imagine that this is the fault of what seems to be a thoroughly bloated site rather than of NetSurf, but I'd like an expert opinion, particularly as to whether I should submit a bug report. Loading http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174?area=GL52 We have known cache problems at the moment, which causes NetSurf to eat up a lot of memory. In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never does any harm and can often do some good. :) In this particular case, there is little point in reporting it on the bug tracker. We already know what the problem is, even if the fix is decidedly non-trivial. More tickets on the tracker just adds to our workload when triaging them. If, however, you encounter NetSurf warning about a lack of memory when it's using very little (i.e. its main dynamic area is smaller than 128MB), then we do want such reports please. OK, I'll look into this further, and will put in a bug report only if necessary; thanks. What about the error converting png thing, however? Is this the fault of the site? With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter, \ / zfc Yb \ Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52 Anne\/ ____\ England. and / / \ | | |\ | / _\ http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk family / \__/ \_/ | \| \__/ \__ pnyo...@ormail.co.uk